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#6157071 - 02/10/12 08:51 AM Re: Lake City Brass Failure Question [Re: rost495]
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It is 308 , not that it matters.

One thing that I neglected to mention in my earlier posts is the fact that this is remanufactured ammo. Could this be hydrodrogen embrittlement from an ammonia based cleaner in the remanufacturers brass cleaning process ?

Another very experienced person has suggested that if it were a brass flaw then why didn't it let go the first time it was fired ?

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#6157628 - 02/10/12 11:18 AM Re: Lake City Brass Failure Question [Re: 6mm250]
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Dunno how I missed the 308 part...

Anyway, yes IMHO if the cleaners used had ammonia, it could make the brass brittle. BUT IMHO there are other weaker spots than where that turned loose. IE it should rear its head in the neck/shoulder area first if the complete cases were brittle, not down where it did.

As to not letting go on the first firing, the strength of the area in the web basically were it let go, is so strong I could easily see that the first one weakened etc and the 2nd or 3rd or whatever allowed it to let go. Minor crack first... major one second if that makes sense.

Its exactly how I end up with neck splits... and thats from worn out and brittle brass... they don't split the first time, more like the 15th time...

Now that you say 308... PM me if you want to get rid of it. I never do have enough LC 762 brass around
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#6158333 - 02/10/12 02:03 PM Re: Lake City Brass Failure Question [Re: rost495]
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PM at you


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#6447757 - 04/26/12 07:14 PM Re: Lake City Brass Failure Question [Re: rost495]
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i see no sign of pressure so it has to be a brass flaw

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#6459784 - 04/30/12 05:21 PM Re: Lake City Brass Failure Question [Re: rainierrifleco]
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I saw a number of failures like this in issued M118 LR ammo, we had a bad lot or sublot.

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#6497836 - 05/12/12 06:46 PM Re: Lake City Brass Failure Question [Re: rost495]
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Originally Posted By: rost495
Dunno how I missed the 308 part...
Because he didn't mention caliber and scale is hard to tell from the pics and everyone is fixated on 5.56mm nowadays and ...:)

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#6501162 - 05/13/12 09:16 PM Re: Lake City Brass Failure Question [Re: rost495]
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had the exact same thing happen in some LC 5.56 brass several years ago. extractor groove blow out that wiped out the extractor in my rem 700. thought it was a fluke until another blew in my nephews 700, also taking out the extractor. scrapped the whole lot,definitely not a 1 in a million occurence.

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