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#6145990 - 02/07/12 04:26 PM Re: Bullet question for a 7mm [Re: bigsqueeze]
406_SBC Offline
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Gets better all the time bigliar. Since you've explained that so clearly I'm amazed I haven't rushed out and bought the ticket. Doubly so, since you've promised to re-imburse the ticket cost. What a deal...You truly are one of the greatest jokes ever told.
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#6146083 - 02/07/12 04:48 PM Re: Bullet question for a 7mm [Re: Tom264]
bigsqueeze Offline
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Registered: 01/04/09
Posts: 6072
Loc: So Cal
Originally Posted By: Tom264
Bigliar.....buy a damn $50 digital camera and post your pics...

Or you don't have any......Laffin'

I mean after all, somebody as RICH as you should be able to afford one.

And no, I am not wanting to exchange #'s with you.
......Good! I was worried you wanted to exchange #s...Whew!....Assuming you and 406 can grow some real big ones, you two can pair up and pay me a visit. In fact, you two can pair up and really let me have it uh? Same proposal goes for you too,,,,Tommy.

Just once, I`d love to put all of my years of training to a good test??? off the mats. Easily handling you two at the same time after you both had the damn courage to say to my face what you type on the net, would be a gift....Yeah!...I WISH!

Maybe your definition of rich matches Obama`s. Cuz over $200K, but still under $350K,,,,isn`t rich. But you are so smart....
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#6146122 - 02/07/12 04:56 PM Re: Bullet question for a 7mm [Re: bigsqueeze]
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Originally Posted By: bigsqueeze
Originally Posted By: Coyote_Hunter


The problem I have with VLDs is twofold: a) what happens at close range/high velocity, and b) what happens when things go wrong? …
.................Regarding the "hunting" VLDs, I had the same two-fold questions as you before I considered using them. So why not call Berger directly?

I called Berger. Suggest that you might do so as well.


bigsqueeze –

While I haven’t called Berger, I did trade several posts with one of the Berger people on a web site long since forgotten. The exchange really didn’t convince me to switch.

I agree they can be very effective and would even go as far as to say they may be one of the best for very long range hunting - but there are just too many reports and photos of results that are less than I expect of a hunting bullets at more typical ranges.

Loading a cartridge down to achieve proper bullet performance, as you suggest, seems counter-productive to me when the alternative is something like a North Fork that works from near (as close as 10 feet on a finisher without falling apart) to as far as I practice, which is 600 yards. So far I haven’t used TTSX or MRX on elk but on mule deer and antelope the results have been straight down in all but two cases and they didn’t go far – maybe 25 yards for one antelope and a few steps for another, all pass-thrus including front-to-back-and-out on a mulie at ~300+ yards and as close as 10 yards.

Respectfully, with regard to the OP, I still feel he will be better served with a Partition than a VLD.
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#6146181 - 02/07/12 05:07 PM Re: Bullet question for a 7mm [Re: 406_SBC]
bigsqueeze Offline
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Originally Posted By: 406_SBC
Gets better all the time bigliar. Since you've explained that so clearly I'm amazed I haven't rushed out and bought the ticket. Doubly so, since you've promised to re-imburse the ticket cost. What a deal...You truly are one of the greatest jokes ever told.
....Yep! You have your big chance and oppty to prove to everyone,,,,THAT I AM THE BIGGEST JOKE EVER TOLD. But you`re going to have to come down here in order to prove it.

You haven`t rushed out to buy your plane ticket and won`t, because the last thing you want would be any aftermath from me should you decide to look me square into the eye, in person, and then open up your big mouth saying to me the same things you type on line. That`s why you won`t buy your tickets.

You suggested that I send you a money order for tickets? You`d pocket that money so damn quick and completely coward out and I`m left out that money, with no pleasure of kicking your butt? A sucker I`m not.

I`m sure that you and your other butt buddy Tommy 264 will be PM`n back and forth now...
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#6146198 - 02/07/12 05:10 PM Re: Bullet question for a 7mm [Re: Coyote_Hunter]
bigsqueeze Offline
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Originally Posted By: Coyote_Hunter
Originally Posted By: bigsqueeze
Originally Posted By: Coyote_Hunter


The problem I have with VLDs is twofold: a) what happens at close range/high velocity, and b) what happens when things go wrong? …
.................Regarding the "hunting" VLDs, I had the same two-fold questions as you before I considered using them. So why not call Berger directly?

I called Berger. Suggest that you might do so as well.


bigsqueeze –

While I haven’t called Berger, I did trade several posts with one of the Berger people on a web site long since forgotten. The exchange really didn’t convince me to switch.

I agree they can be very effective and would even go as far as to say they may be one of the best for very long range hunting - but there are just too many reports and photos of results that are less than I expect of a hunting bullets at more typical ranges.

Loading a cartridge down to achieve proper bullet performance, as you suggest, seems counter-productive to me when the alternative is something like a North Fork that works from near (as close as 10 feet on a finisher without falling apart) to as far as I practice, which is 600 yards. So far I haven’t used TTSX or MRX on elk but on mule deer and antelope the results have been straight down in all but two cases and they didn’t go far – maybe 25 yards for one antelope and a few steps for another, all pass-thrus including front-to-back-and-out on a mulie at ~300+ yards and as close as 10 yards.

Respectfully, with regard to the OP, I still feel he will be better served with a Partition than a VLD.



...............Understand and well stated.
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#6146260 - 02/07/12 05:25 PM Re: Bullet question for a 7mm [Re: bigsqueeze]
bigsqueeze Offline
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Loc: So Cal
Tommy and 406......You guys can take this thread over now and keep on trashing me until the pigs you slop with,,,start flying.

I gotta go to work tonight as most of my people work during the day. Have 30 tonight. But as 406 says,,,I gotta go do some "diapering"....LOL!

Bye bye!
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#6146335 - 02/07/12 05:40 PM Re: Bullet question for a 7mm [Re: bigsqueeze]
406_SBC Offline
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Registered: 09/16/10
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Loc: Just south of the 60th paralle...
Originally Posted By: bigsqueeze
....Yep! You have your big chance and oppty to prove to everyone,,,,THAT I AM THE BIGGEST JOKE EVER TOLD. But you`re going to have to come down here in order to prove it.
You and your posts are living proof. I'll gladly recant all I've said, hang some pics of you and your accomplishments and I'm a man of my word, I'll apologize. Otherwise just shut up with your lies and make believe successes. Simple, put up or shut up bigliar.
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#6146904 - 02/07/12 07:59 PM Re: Bullet question for a 7mm [Re: chas1]
GuyM Offline
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Registered: 07/29/07
Posts: 3709
Loc: Washington - dry side
Chas, sorry your thread is a mess.

I went with the 175 Nosler Partition when I wanted a 7mm mag bullet for big bull elk. It worked very well, dropping the elk quickly, with an exit wound. I was impressed.




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#6147503 - 02/08/12 03:45 AM Re: Bullet question for a 7mm [Re: GuyM]
chas1 Offline
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Registered: 10/10/08
Posts: 99
Loc: pa
To everyone who responded with "real" information thank you. To the rest save your pissing battles for somewhere else please.
Chas

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#6147544 - 02/08/12 04:27 AM Re: Bullet question for a 7mm [Re: chas1]
163bc Offline
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Registered: 08/18/03
Posts: 2949
Loc: virginia
For elk its a no brainer. Noslers for me. You guys can have the Bergers. I've been using Partitions & Accubonds for 25 yrs. Killed a pretty good pile of elk with em too. I've seen em perform exactly as advertized over n over again at all ranges and all angles. They shine when things don't go exactly as planned. 163bc

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