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#6519814 - 05/19/12 06:43 PM Re: black powder for 30-30, 32 special or 35 remington [Re: BrentD]
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Originally Posted By: BrentD
It is a Uberti


Thanks.

He appears to be shooting the case colored one is that correct?
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#6519822 - 05/19/12 06:45 PM Re: black powder for 30-30, 32 special or 35 remington [Re: derby_dude]
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That I can't say for sure but it sure looks like it.
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#6519905 - 05/19/12 07:07 PM Re: black powder for 30-30, 32 special or 35 remington [Re: BrentD]
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Uberti makes a decent rifle that's for sure.
Their revolvers aren't bad either and I'd love them to make an entry level 1911
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#6519915 - 05/19/12 07:10 PM Re: black powder for 30-30, 32 special or 35 remington [Re: BrentD]
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Originally Posted By: BrentD
That I can't say for sure but it sure looks like it.


Again thanks.

That is intriguing, a Henry shooting .44-40 black powder. I see Uberti are not cheap any more. Price is right up there with a Shiloh Sharps rifle.
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#6520252 - 05/19/12 09:06 PM Re: black powder for 30-30, 32 special or 35 remington [Re: Swampman700]
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Originally Posted By: Swampman700
I've fixed dozens of rifles just by getting their owners to stop cleaning them. They went from 1.5 MOA to .5 MOA in no time.



ummmm.....riiigghhhttt.....

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#6521191 - 05/20/12 09:28 AM Re: black powder for 30-30, 32 special or 35 remington [Re: tex_n_cal]
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Originally Posted By: tex_n_cal
Originally Posted By: Swampman700
I've fixed dozens of rifles just by getting their owners to stop cleaning them. They went from 1.5 MOA to .5 MOA in no time.



ummmm.....riiigghhhttt.....

crazy


He may have a point.

I had a Marlin 1894 Cowboy with 24" barrel and Ballard rifling, the caliber was .44 mag. I shot only factory smokeless ammo. A friend on mine who had one just like mine except in .45 Colt told me not to really clean the rifle as I would not be able to hit the side of a barn standing in the barn.

I found out he was right. I would remover the bolt and clean it and wipe the down the bolt face but I never really cleaned the barrel. I would just use an oil patch down the barrel followed by dry patches to remove the loose residue but that was it. If I cleaned the barrel by removing all the copper with a brush and bore cleaner until the barrel shined I could not put any rounds on a man size target at 25 yards. As long as the barrel was dirty the rifle shot reasonable well.

I talked with one of our police snipers out at our range one time who had just come back from a sniper school who said the schools sniper rifles were never cleaned until after all the classes were done for the year. Bolts were cleaned and dry patches run down the barrels to remove the loose stuff but that was it. The school claimed to many rifle were ruined from to much cleaning and by cleaning I mean the extreme cleaning that many of us were taught to do.

Sinclair says the same thing, the best way to ruin a top barrel is to scrub the barrel spotless clean on a regular basis.

I no longer scrub my barrels. I use Kroil oil to clean the barrels getting out the loose stuff and leave everything else as is. I only scrub the barrel spotless if the barrel starts to lose accuracy because what the heck have I got to lose. Take this for whatever it's worth.
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#6521630 - 05/20/12 12:05 PM Re: black powder for 30-30, 32 special or 35 remington [Re: derby_dude]
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#6522068 - 05/20/12 02:42 PM Re: black powder for 30-30, 32 special or 35 remington [Re: crossfireoops]
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#6527989 - 05/22/12 11:40 AM Re: black powder for 30-30, 32 special or 35 remington [Re: derby_dude]
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Originally Posted By: derby_dude
Originally Posted By: tex_n_cal
Originally Posted By: Swampman700
I've fixed dozens of rifles just by getting their owners to stop cleaning them. They went from 1.5 MOA to .5 MOA in no time.



ummmm.....riiigghhhttt.....

crazy


He may have a point.

I had a Marlin 1894 Cowboy with 24" barrel and Ballard rifling, the caliber was .44 mag. I shot only factory smokeless ammo. A friend on mine who had one just like mine except in .45 Colt told me not to really clean the rifle as I would not be able to hit the side of a barn standing in the barn.

I found out he was right. I would remover the bolt and clean it and wipe the down the bolt face but I never really cleaned the barrel. I would just use an oil patch down the barrel followed by dry patches to remove the loose residue but that was it. If I cleaned the barrel by removing all the copper with a brush and bore cleaner until the barrel shined I could not put any rounds on a man size target at 25 yards. As long as the barrel was dirty the rifle shot reasonable well.

I talked with one of our police snipers out at our range one time who had just come back from a sniper school who said the schools sniper rifles were never cleaned until after all the classes were done for the year. Bolts were cleaned and dry patches run down the barrels to remove the loose stuff but that was it. The school claimed to many rifle were ruined from to much cleaning and by cleaning I mean the extreme cleaning that many of us were taught to do.

Sinclair says the same thing, the best way to ruin a top barrel is to scrub the barrel spotless clean on a regular basis.

I no longer scrub my barrels. I use Kroil oil to clean the barrels getting out the loose stuff and leave everything else as is. I only scrub the barrel spotless if the barrel starts to lose accuracy because what the heck have I got to lose. Take this for whatever it's worth.


I don't beleive a word of not being able to hit a man sized target at 25 yds. plain BS. I can hit a man sized target with a rifle at 25 yds without any sights even if you cleaned the hell out of it. don't beleive me? scrub your rifle and let me shoot at you at 25 yds with no sights. grin
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#6528224 - 05/22/12 01:03 PM Re: black powder for 30-30, 32 special or 35 remington [Re: Hubert]
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I shot CAS for years. I used a Uberti 1873 in 44-40. It's probably the cleanest round to use with BP, because the thin case expands better to seal it.

You still need to clean though. It's part of owning a gun.


Edited by Mauser_Hunter (05/22/12 01:03 PM)
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