#6613354 - 06/21/12 12:15 PM
Re: Leupold VX2 vs. Meopta Meopro/Cabelas Euro
[Re: nsaqam]
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I agree. Just so my question above is clear, I'm referring to the brand new VX-2's, not the previous generation VX-II's. The new model is supposedly a significant upgrade over the older VX-II.
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#6613737 - 06/21/12 02:18 PM
Re: Leupold VX2 vs. Meopta Meopro/Cabelas Euro
[Re: Alex38]
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I understand that Cabela's has a new Meopta made scope, and I think it's the Euro, that is made with super hard coatings like the latest VX2. If that is so, then that feature is certainly worth having. Scopes with standard coatings degrade easily even with the best of care. I seriously doubt one could easily see any difference in image quality between the two. With careful testing you might find a small difference, but not a significant one. I suspect the big differences would be in eye relief and especially eye box lenths. You'd have to find a store with a stock setup to allow customers to try scopes mounted on a rifle stock. I know my local Sportsman's Warehouse has such a setup to try out different rifle scopes, so you might consider looking for one in your area. E
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#6615045 - 06/21/12 09:35 PM
Re: Leupold VX2 vs. Meopta Meopro/Cabelas Euro
[Re: Eremicus]
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Thank you very much E. The Cabelas nearest me has a stock to use, which is part of what brought this question up in my head in the first place. I could tell no difference between the VX2 and Euro when looking through them in the store. I also know that indoors is not the best place to evaluate a scope. At this point I'm inclined to spend the extra $50 and stick with the Euro, which was my original plan, but I may still end up getting a VX2 of some sort for another rifle eventually. I have read in numerous places that the Cabelas Euro is identical to the Meopta Meopro, and the paperwork that came with my 3-9x42 Euro seems to confirm this. I love my Euro, so I guess maybe I should stick with what I know...
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#6616403 - 06/22/12 10:53 AM
Re: Leupold VX2 vs. Meopta Meopro/Cabelas Euro
[Re: Alex38]
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I really can't say much about the Meopta scopes. But I do understand that Cabela's puts out some very good stuff in optics. What I've found when trying out scopes on rifle stocks is that it allows me to compare eye relief and eye boxes. In the field, when I have to shoot in a hurry, shoot either up hill or downhill, shoot from different positions, or even just from wearing different layers of clothing, extra fore and aft leeway, i.e. eye box, is worth having. I have alot of faith in Leupolds because they have put up with alot of rough field use and always performed quite well in spite of this in the field. So, I for one, tend to go for them first, simply based on my own experiences with them and that of alot of other very experienced hunters that I've met over the years. If you feel the same sort of confidence in the Cabela's Euro, then why not ? E
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#6616443 - 06/22/12 11:11 AM
Re: Leupold VX2 vs. Meopta Meopro/Cabelas Euro
[Re: Eremicus]
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Eye RELIEF is fore and aft latitude.
Eye BOX is starboard, port, up and down latitude.
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#6616519 - 06/22/12 11:35 AM
Re: Leupold VX2 vs. Meopta Meopro/Cabelas Euro
[Re: nsaqam]
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Eye relief is expressed as one number. It is that point in the middle of the scope's eye box. The eye box is the fore and aft leeway one has while still being able to see the scope's image. I know of no term that describes the side to side leeway one has in viewing the scope's image. But it is determined by the size of the scope's exit pupil. E
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#6620858 - 06/23/12 10:29 PM
Re: Leupold VX2 vs. Meopta Meopro/Cabelas Euro
[Re: Eremicus]
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Meopta meopro/cabelas euro = same scope. And both handily make an ass out of a Leupold. comparing the meopta/cabelas scope to a Leupold is like comparing a f-18 to a bi plane. To clarify for the OP Meopta makes the Cabelas euro. And Leupold cant hang with either
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#6621501 - 06/24/12 08:31 AM
Re: Leupold VX2 vs. Meopta Meopro/Cabelas Euro
[Re: 280Ackleyrized]
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I see that Cabela's claims the Cabela's Euro scope has 3.75 inches of eye relief. If this is so, and such figures are often not, it may well have about the same eye box as the Zeiss Conquest 3-9X40. Which would be acceptable in my book. However, I seriously doubt it's anything like the "much better" claims than the Leupold Vx2. From what I've seen, such claims are made by those who don't understand that it is desirable to focus both the reticle and the image of the Leupold not just the reticle. E
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#6621523 - 06/24/12 08:40 AM
Re: Leupold VX2 vs. Meopta Meopro/Cabelas Euro
[Re: Eremicus]
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I'm impressed so far with my new VX-2's but they do have the fast focus eyepiece which you loathe E!
I like the FF eyepiece myself and pretty much all scopes are going to sport one soon.
The reticle does gold out still on the new VX-2's.
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#6621531 - 06/24/12 08:42 AM
Re: Leupold VX2 vs. Meopta Meopro/Cabelas Euro
[Re: 280Ackleyrized]
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Meopta meopro/cabelas euro = same scope. And both handily make an ass out of a leupold. comparing the meopta/cabelas scope to a leupold is like comparing a f-18 to a bi plane. To clarify for the OP Meopta makes the Cabelas euro. And Leupold cant hang with either Hyperbole runneth amok here methinks!
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