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May all those who paid the ultimate sacrifice for freedom on the wind swept coast of Normandy on this day 69 years ago Rest in Honored Peace.

And may the courage, conviction, and perseverance of their comrades who lived through the "Longest Day" never be forgotten.
first thought I had this morning, was of my Father in Law, on that day. He was there........
Well stated hillbillybear.
My father was in Service Company 508 PIR 82nd Airborne Division. He landed in the edge of the water along a causeway. I have taken several trips to Normandy with him and other members of the 508. It is very interesting to be with the veterans who were there and explain the battles. My father is alive and well living in Casa Grande AZ at 93 years of age.
A day for reflection and to honor those that keep us free.
I lost a cousin there and to this day everyone that speaks of him, speak as though he was in the chair next to you.
Posted By: Pat85 Re: 6 June 1944 Lest We Forget - 06/06/13
My uncle Mike was on one of those landing crafts that day. He found out 40 years later watching tv that they landed way off coarse. He was with the 4th ID.
Posted By: AFTERUM Re: 6 June 1944 Lest We Forget - 06/06/13
May we never forget the brave heroes of the greatest generation living and dead. My wife just returned from Normandy and any talk of D-Day brings tears to her eyes for the 4,500 men (2,500 Americans) who died that first day and all the thousands wounded.

BTW, I haven't heard much about it on the national news.
Gentleman, Thank you for your service and the ability to enjoy the freedoms that I enjoy to this day.
My uncle and name sake Paul was killed a few months earlier on a beach named ... Anzio.
My dad was fighting in a cold place he could not tell anyone where. Later learned it was Attu.
He joined the Great Crusade on 1 Jan '45.


The sad thing today?
not the loss of all those brave boys...
that was the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom

But the sad thing today?
We could not do it again.

here it is 69 years later, and we could not save the world again,
if we had to.
Posted By: AFTERUM Re: 6 June 1944 Lest We Forget - 06/06/13
Originally Posted by ColsPaul


here it is 69 years later, and we could not save the world again,
if we had to.


True words for sure...very sad......
And sadder yet is what our government is doing to that freedom those boys and men shed their blood for
A REAL President in action:

One of the very best reads on D-Day I have ever read.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1960/11/first-wave-at-omaha-beach/303365/
Posted By: JMR40 Re: 6 June 1944 Lest We Forget - 06/06/13
My dad was stationed at a base in Louisiana and on leave in New Orleans 69 years ago today. He was transferred from the medical corps to the infintry a few months later. He was in Texas finishing up training when the Germans attacked at the Battle of the Bulge.

He was sent to Europe ASAP which got him there in Jan. 1945. They took his Garand away, painted a red cross on his helmet and made him a medic 2 days after he got off the boat. He spent the rest of the war drivng an ambulance to the front picking up wounded and bringing them to the rear. Dad died 4 months ago, 1 week short of his 90th birthday.

Some photos in honor of "The Greatest Generation"

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Posted By: AFTERUM Re: 6 June 1944 Lest We Forget - 06/06/13
Originally Posted by CrowRifle


It really is...thanks for posting it.
Originally Posted by JMR40
My dad was stationed at a base in Louisiana and on leave in New Orleans 69 years ago today. He was transferred from the medical corps to the infintry a few months later. He was in Texas finishing up training when the Germans attacked at the Battle of the Bulge.

He was sent to Europe ASAP which got him there in Jan. 1945. They took his Garand away, painted a red cross on his helmet and made him a medic 2 days after he got off the boat. He spent the rest of the war drivng an ambulance to the front picking up wounded and bringing them to the rear. Dad died 4 months ago, 1 week short of his 90th birthday.

Some photos in honor of "The Greatest Generation"

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Great pictures. Thanks for sharing them.
Originally Posted by hillbillybear
A REAL President in action:








From that speech:
�These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc.
These are the men who took the cliffs.
These are the champions who helped free a continent.
And these are the heroes who helped end a war.�
President Ronald Reagan on June 6, 1984
Posted By: ingwe Re: 6 June 1944 Lest We Forget - 06/06/13
Cool pics...heres a couple more...

My dad went through Normandy with the 69th infantry a month and a half after D-day
He was a Combat Engineer and part of the outfit that tried to blow up the bridge at Remagen, liberated Buchenwald, and met up with the Russians at the River Elbe on VE day..

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The Ludendorf Bridge..after it finally gave up the ghost..

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Photos from Captured/killed Germans.
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Great photos
Originally Posted by ingwe
Cool pics...heres a couple more...

My dad went through Normandy with the 69th infantry a month and a half after D-day
He was a Combat Engineer and part of the outfit that tried to blow up the bridge at Remagen, liberated Buchenwald, and met up with the Russians at the River Elbe on VE day..

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The Ludendorf Bridge..after it finally gave up the ghost..

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Photos from Captured/killed Germans.
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TERRIFIC pictures. Thanks for sharing them.
Posted By: AFTERUM Re: 6 June 1944 Lest We Forget - 06/06/13
Ingwe,
Did you ever find out who those German officers are??
Posted By: gmsemel Re: 6 June 1944 Lest We Forget - 06/06/13
Yes it was the Day of Days!
Dad went in on the first wave and had the good fortune to be landed 19 miles from where he was supposed to hit the beach. The section of beach they were supposed to take suffered very heavy casualties. He went in virtually unopposed. Two tanks were dug in on the back side of a rail bed that ran along the beach where they went it. They were shelling the boats coming in, but accurate Navy fire quickly took them out. They were assigned to take an airfield up on the high ground. The way they found the field was they saw British planes landing there. It had been taken by another unit, equally landed way off course like Dad's unit had been. When one hears about how many things didn't go according to plan, it makes you see how resourceful these guys were to just get the damned job done.
Originally Posted by AFTERUM
Originally Posted by ColsPaul


here it is 69 years later, and we could not save the world again,
if we had to.


True words for sure...very sad......


Hold on a sec, boys.

D-day was in 1944. But when Germany invaded Poland in 1939, the start of WWII, the U.S.'s military power was arguably at the lowest point in our nation's history. It took 2 years for Roosevelt to hornswoggle us into the war, and 5 years to build up the military machine that successfully invaded Normandy.

My uncle Steve was there on D-day as well, a private in the 1st Canadian Parachute Regiment. He fought all the way to Germany, went back to England and married his sweetheart, and then returned to Saskatchewan where he raised 5 great kids. He died on June 6, 2001.

I talked with him in 1998 at my other uncle's funeral. "Saving Private Ryan" had just come out. He had previously been reluctant to talk about his war memories, but in his late years he had joined the Parachute Regiment's veteran organization, and was very active in contributing to their historical records. So he answered my questions.

I asked him about the horrific volume of fire the movie depicted as the GI's landed on Omaha beach, and asked him if that was realistic. He grimaced and said he was in firefights in Normandy and Holland that were ten times worse than what Spielberg portrayed in the beach scenes. He said that he had no doubt the reality of Omaha was much worse than portrayed.

I watched Saving Private Ryan again last weekend, and as ever, that long invasion scene wrenched my guts and brought tears to my eyes.

God bless the memory of the boys who took the Normandy beachhead.

My thoughts always go to the Men who assaulted the beaches and jumped into Normandy on this day in history. It truly was a day of Death or Glory in the sharpest sense. Once the ramps went down,once the opening shock of the 'chute hit, there WAS no retreat,no surrender. Facing a very hard fighting and experienced enemy with brutal firepower at their disposal these men STILL went on. It was totally OUT of all control of any General on either side. It was ALL about the Soldiers who went in to Victory or Death. Men to admire and revere. Remember them Always!!
Posted By: AFTERUM Re: 6 June 1944 Lest We Forget - 06/06/13
Doc, I was not talking about military power....I was talking about the "heart" and "will" of the young people today. I include my generation (baby boomers) as well....I just don't know how many would fight to save the country.

I think your uncle was a true hero and I appreciate knowing about his service.
same here.. I see the USA so divided into "all for me," groups.
The family ?, gone. Morals shot.
I don't think we could ever pull together like that again.
Listen to the Reagan speech. He talks of folks back home hearing the news and gathering to pray. Ringing the Liberty bell.
Dropping on their knees on a porch in Iowa....
Maybe I am way off, I hope so. For our childrens future.
Posted By: Seafire Re: 6 June 1944 Lest We Forget - 06/06/13
Originally Posted by hillbillybear
May all those who paid the ultimate sacrifice for freedom on the wind swept coast of Normandy on this day 69 years ago Rest in Honored Peace.

And may the courage, conviction, and perseverance of their comrades who lived through the "Longest Day" never be forgotten.


Well said...

it is a day I always set aside and spend in a solemn reverence to those that fought that day, and the days that followed... let us not forget also, that in the 2 weeks following D Day, half of the guys that came ashore on those beaches that morning, did not survive either.

Anyone who has ever walked the graveyards in Normandy where the American Cemeteries are, will never forget the memories they give you. I was 12 years old on my first visit there.
Posted By: ingwe Re: 6 June 1944 Lest We Forget - 06/06/13
Originally Posted by AFTERUM
Ingwe,
Did you ever find out who those German officers are??


Yes actually. Ive lost the name of the head honcho there but guys from the 'fire here hopped right on it, did some absolutely dynamite research and came up with the guy! laugh

It wasnt Himmler by the way wink
My deepest thanks to my parents and the others of the greatest generation.
Flag's been out all day. Many brave men.
Pooba, what conbat engineer outfit was your dad with? My uncle was with the 51st combat engineers. They were the ones that built the bridge below the Ludendorf.

He was at Remagen and shows up in one of the old 20th cetury WWII series films. He is crouched behind one of the stone wings of the bridge looking across the river when he suddenly turns and looks back at the camera.
I asked him about it and he said he wondered why all of a sudden the volume of fire from across the river picked up so much. He said this idiot with a camer was standing out in the open takeing pictures.

Sgt. W H Abbott my uncle.
Posted By: Stetson Re: 6 June 1944 Lest We Forget - 06/07/13
Hat tip to all of those who served then and since. I was gobsmacked when D-Day wasn't even mentioned on the evening news. Firing up the big screen/surround sound tonight with "Saving Private Ryan".

Posted By: ingwe Re: 6 June 1944 Lest We Forget - 06/07/13
Originally Posted by Boggy Creek Ranger
Pooba, what conbat engineer outfit was your dad with? My uncle was with the 51st combat engineers. They were the ones that built the bridge below the Ludendorf.

He was at Remagen and shows up in one of the old 20th cetury WWII series films. He is crouched behind one of the stone wings of the bridge looking across the river when he suddenly turns and looks back at the camera.
I asked him about it and he said he wondered why all of a sudden the volume of fire from across the river picked up so much. He said this idiot with a camer was standing out in the open takeing pictures.

Sgt. W H Abbott my uncle.


Im not sure which outfit, just that he was 69th infantry. He also ( I believe..) helped build the bridge below Ludendorf...lemme see If I have a pic of it somewhere.....Ive seen that footage of your uncle, the schitt was indeed hitting the fan then! eek
Posted By: eh76 Re: 6 June 1944 Lest We Forget - 06/07/13
Originally Posted by hillbillybear
May all those who paid the ultimate sacrifice for freedom on the wind swept coast of Normandy on this day 69 years ago Rest in Honored Peace.

And may the courage, conviction, and perseverance of their comrades who lived through the "Longest Day" never be forgotten.


Amen brother!
Posted By: djs Re: 6 June 1944 Lest We Forget - 06/07/13
In the 1960's, I worked a summer job with 3 WW2 paratroopers. They had jumped into Normandy, Operation Market Garden and Remagen (bridge over the Rhine), plus fought at Bastogne. Never discussed their experiences, but you could sense a quiet strength.
Posted By: ingwe Re: 6 June 1944 Lest We Forget - 06/07/13
BCR Here is a pic of dad working on building a bridge...I have no idea if it was on the Rhine or stateside...

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And for AFTERUM who asked earlier about this dude...

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A couple Campfire members were able to run him down, and he is a Col. Herbert Fischer....
Posted By: ingwe Re: 6 June 1944 Lest We Forget - 06/07/13
One last pic, lest we forget...Claysville Pa. burying war dead. The two riflemen on the right are my dad, and my uncle...

The Price of Freedom......

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America lost more men in the 1st hour on that day than in both Gulf Wars + Afghanistan combined & yet we call them "wars".

This country no longer knows what war is.

May they all RIP.

MM
Originally Posted by ingwe
One last pic, lest we forget...Claysville Pa. burying war dead. The two riflemen on the right are my dad, and my uncle...

The Price of Freedom......

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Wow! Looks like they are using Krag-Jorgensens!!! No doubt from either the local NG armory or American Legion post!!! Thanks for posting!!!

Bob
Posted By: Lorne Re: 6 June 1944 Lest We Forget - 06/07/13
Originally Posted by DocRocket
Originally Posted by AFTERUM
Originally Posted by ColsPaul


here it is 69 years later, and we could not save the world again,
if we had to.


True words for sure...very sad......


Hold on a sec, boys.

D-day was in 1944. But when Germany invaded Poland in 1939, the start of WWII, the U.S.'s military power was arguably at the lowest point in our nation's history. It took 2 years for Roosevelt to hornswoggle us into the war, and 5 years to build up the military machine that successfully invaded Normandy.

My uncle Steve was there on D-day as well, a private in the 1st Canadian Parachute Regiment. He fought all the way to Germany, went back to England and married his sweetheart, and then returned to Saskatchewan where he raised 5 great kids. He died on June 6, 2001.

I talked with him in 1998 at my other uncle's funeral. "Saving Private Ryan" had just come out. He had previously been reluctant to talk about his war memories, but in his late years he had joined the Parachute Regiment's veteran organization, and was very active in contributing to their historical records. So he answered my questions.

I asked him about the horrific volume of fire the movie depicted as the GI's landed on Omaha beach, and asked him if that was realistic. He grimaced and said he was in firefights in Normandy and Holland that were ten times worse than what Spielberg portrayed in the beach scenes. He said that he had no doubt the reality of Omaha was much worse than portrayed.

I watched Saving Private Ryan again last weekend, and as ever, that long invasion scene wrenched my guts and brought tears to my eyes.

God bless the memory of the boys who took the Normandy beachhead.



Doc

Hats off to your uncle.

Mind if I ask where in this flat land he was from

Regards
Lorne
Pooba I don't want to rag this to death but if you remember your dad talking about training at Plattsburg NY that is where the 51st Combat Engineers were organized and trained. They came into Normandy two weeks after D day.
I don't remember which outfit Unc Bill's company was attached to on the crossing of the Rine just remember what his parent outfit was.
May some of their ghost rise up and help us save our country. Because we must save our country first and then we can help save the world. And the sooner the better.
Posted By: ingwe Re: 6 June 1944 Lest We Forget - 06/07/13
Originally Posted by Boggy Creek Ranger
Pooba I don't want to rag this to death but if you remember your dad talking about training at Plattsburg NY that is where the 51st Combat Engineers were organized and trained. They came into Normandy two weeks after D day.
I don't remember which outfit Unc Bill's company was attached to on the crossing of the Rine just remember what his parent outfit was.



Dont ever remember that...he did a stint in Ft. Polk La....so its pretty sure they werent in the same outfit...too bad!
Rolled Saving Private Ryan again last night.

I've watched it every year in june since it came out.

Thankyou for your service. RIP to the greatest generation in US history.

Virgil B.
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