This happened to a buddy's dad sighting in for the Ohio m/l season. Ready to leave to sight in he sent his grandson back to get the 777 bottle he forgot off the table. Unfortunatly there was also a bottle of smokeless shotshell powder on the table. Not noticing the mistake he loaded up whith what he thought was 110gr 777 then put the gun in a lead-sled (which may have saved his life) and squessed the trigger. Only injerey was brused eye brow and loss of hearing (hopefully temperary) in left ear.
Glad everyone is ok....WOW! Just WOW
????Why on earth would he have a jug of smokeless powder out on a bench at all????? Glad ot hear he's not badly hurt.
Whoa! Glad he wasn't seriously hurt. I wonder if anything went out the back. Whose make is that?
looks like an encore.....
Looks like whats left of a T/C
Glad he wasn't seriously injured. I guess it does pay to read the label sometimes.
What gave me pause was the comment that the powder was left sitting on the table. Would that be the same table where people sit and fill the ashtray with cigarette butts?
Glad he wasn't seriously injured. I guess it does pay to read the label sometimes.
What gave me pause was the comment that the powder was left sitting on the table. Would that be the same table where people sit and fill the ashtray with cigarette butts?
omg ,i really don't think the gun blew up on the freekin dinning room table.
Didn't imply that (or I guess maybe I did). It was an offhand comment about having powder next to burning cigarettes.
involuntary bowel evacuation
Very fortunate that the injuries are not worse. Glad to hear that he will be OK. Quite an explosion there.
Holy schneikies!! That is as much twisted metal as I've ever seen from one kaboom!
An incredible blow-up! It is amazing no one was seriously hurt. Pieces of everything went everywhere.
It sure emphasizes the necessity of extraordinary care on and around the bench. I once shot nearly an entire box of 30-30 ammo through my .32 Win Spl, baffled by wildly flying keyholes and no recoil. You would think any idiot would have stopped at the first shot and figured the problem out, but this idiot just kept shooting until I finally noticed the label on the ammo box.
At least in that case I got away with total embarrassment, but no damage to me, anyone else, or the rifle.
Yes, if I'd of just looked at the picture, and not read the post, I'd of thought it was a hunter safety poster entitled, "Never smoke around gun powder. This is what can happen."
Just glad no one was injured more. Man, that smoke pole really blew...
Wow
He is very lucky to be alive!!
dadgum .
about as dumb as the guy near me that on purpose put the powder from 3 12g shells in a hawkens and shot it. gun looks about the same.
He's very lucky that he still has all his body parts after that!
If the cigarettes don't get ya the ML will.........
glad there were no serious injuries
That one gives the chills just looking at it. Glad your bud escaped virtually unscathed.
And, not make light of a potentially catastrophic event but this is FF:
If the cigarettes don't get ya the ML will.........
Damn, that cat should have stopped on the way home and bought a powerball ticket
glad everyones OK, and dont forget to turn down that other bomb over there simmering on the stove.
Gunner
Think leoupold will repair that scope?
It aint that bad
"my dad has an awesome set of tools I can fix it"
For sale: Gently used T/C
Think leoupold will repair that scope?
If it was a Leupold I imagine they would do something about it.
......but it's not
So the kid handed him the wrong powder, but the adult loaded it?
Who is the weak link here?
holy cow!!!!!
gotta pay attention to things for sure
totally advoidable circumstance
thank the guy above
no one was seriously hurt or killed
Someone care to run the Quickload stats on that load ?
Honestly, short of a howitzer, I doubt there is a rifle made that could withstand that pressure.
WOW is right...
Tony
I am wondering what powder was it. I only shoot smokeless powder in my Muzzloader. (I is a rebarrelled savage is designed for tha).
I am wondering what powder was it. I only shoot smokeless powder in my Muzzloader. (I is a rebarrelled savage is designed for tha).
I don't think it would matter which smokeless power he stuck down the barrel of the TC in the picture.
The upside is that there's one less Lead Sled in this world.
Was there a brown stain in his pants too? I know I would've dropped a deuce RIGHT THERE! Wow
RH
The upside is that there's one less Lead Sled in this world.
And why do you consider that a upside, what is it that you don't like about the Lead Sled? I kind of like the one I use, maybe I'm missing something.
I've seen them break stocks.
I've seen them break stocks.
I did not know that. How in the H would that happen?
Lead sleds breaking stocks are mainly due to the person over loading the sled with lead. My FCX lead sled has over 10,000 shots off it with everything from muzzleloaders to centerfires and I've never had an issue. It weighs 23lbs naked which is plenty to tame recoil from any rifle. No need for 50 or 75lbs of lead.
This sled had no lead on it. There's no need for a sled. It accomplishes nothing.
They remind me of something you'd buy on late night TV for $19.95 and get a Bamboo Steamer if you order fast. What's the point of them?
same as the golf carts you hunt from, makes things easier.
Closest to a guesstimate I can generate on QL is using the .50-110 as a base, a 350 grain bullet, and 110 grains of BlueDot or HS6.
Figure between 400k and 500k PSI.
If something like Clays.... up it by a factor of 2...
Damn.....
Try this load next time:
an inch or two of FFFF B/powder
followed by 2" of Bullseye
topped off by 3 " of More ffff BP
It will send the parts over the moon!
Did this happen on a Public Range ?
GTC
he 777 bottle he forgot off the table. Unfortunatly there was also a bottle of smokeless shotshell powder on the table. Not noticing the mistake he loaded up whith what he thought was 110gr 777
There's a couple of parts to this fiasco that I do not understand.
Bottles? What bottles? The container that 777 comes in looks nothing like any shotgun powder container that I know about - there is that whole "777" thing on the label that lets you know what you have. Had he put propellants into unlabelled containers?
Appearance. How does one load 110 grains of anything without looking at it? 777 does not look like any shotgun powder that I have ever seen. So.....how did he do this? (and what a lucky guy).
Pete
HOW Pete ???????
Captchee: That doesn't do it for me. A person would have to be blind not to notice that the container is NOT 777. It looks nothing like a 777 container, or a Pyrodex container or a BP (pick your brand) container.
A person would have to have pretty much zero knowledge about what they were doing to take a can of Win 231 and mistake it for 777. Nothing about them is the same. Even if each were in an unmarked container, they don't resemble each other at all.
Could you really pick up that can of 231 and think that it was 777 or BP? Could you pour 110 grains of it into a powder measure and not see that it doesn't look like 777. No, I think not.
This accident was not a single mistake; it was a whole chain of mistakes.
Wonder if someone was trying to "see" if smokeless could happen??
Pete
i think your missing what was in the photos i posted .
See all to often folks for what ever reason , put their powder in a different container .
Maybe they buy the powder in bulk or feel the original container no longer seals properly .
This is not only dangerous but its also illegal.
But that doesn�t stop it from happening .
In fact the above photos are from a range where things like blowing down the barrel or standing with your hand over a muzzle is greatly frowned upon as being un safe .
Yet they had no issue with this fella who put True BP in a smokless can . He even went so far as to make a lid with a spout on it . He was pouring right from that can , to his powder measure
While I would totally agree with you that the original containers , as well as the powders themselves ,look completely different . If the person in question had changed containers
And was foolish enough not to distinctly and clearly mark the one with T7 in it .
Well there you go .
Im not saying that�s what happened in this case . I don�t know . But it sounds to me like this may have well been what happened .
Like you , I just cant see any other way one could confuse the two powders
Perhaps some type of liquid refreshment was also involved? Just saying!
Glad he was not hurt real bad. What a disaster.
Captchee: You are correct. I did not glean what you have since said from that photo.
That container labelled "231" really held BP? That is crazy behavior.
Thanks for explaining
Pete
your buddies dad should not be allowed around guns. he is a moron. how you mistake shotgun powder for 777 is beyond me. if he is that unfamiliar with powder types and he is reloading shotgun shells, he is lucky he still has a face.
Pete
i think your missing what was in the photos i posted .
See all to often folks for what ever reason , put their powder in a different container .
Maybe they buy the powder in bulk or feel the original container no longer seals properly .
This is not only dangerous but its also illegal.
But that doesn�t stop it from happening .
In fact the above photos are from a range where things like blowing down the barrel or standing with your hand over a muzzle is greatly frowned upon as being un safe .
Yet they had no issue with this fella who put True BP in a smokless can . He even went so far as to make a lid with a spout on it . He was pouring right from that can , to his powder measure
While I would totally agree with you that the original containers , as well as the powders themselves ,look completely different . If the person in question had changed containers
And was foolish enough not to distinctly and clearly mark the one with T7 in it .
Well there you go .
Im not saying that�s what happened in this case . I don�t know . But it sounds to me like this may have well been what happened .
Like you , I just cant see any other way one could confuse the two powders
Aside from being dumb by putting powder in a container that it did not come in, how exactly is it "illegal"??? Please explain
The federal law as I understand it ,Blanket , requires storage to be in an approved and labeled container . Cans like Goex uses have been approved . Same with the plastic bottles for T7 pyro and such .
Even lose powder in bulk , ie 25lb bags , are placed in an approved plastic bag , properly labeled container .
How sticky the feds want to get about that , depends on the officer who checks you .
In my case , it�s a approved and certified bunker and all the requirments that go with such storage
Normally there is not any big issue for say a shooter IF the container is clearly labeled.
. Does this normally create an issue other then a safety one . I would say no . but that depends on how much of an ASS someone wants to be .
State laws can differ so you have to check the state you live in as well as local laws as to the amounts you can own and how they can be stored . let me warn you though . its a never ending cross check aften times regulated by alot of diffrent agancies .
That container labelled "231" really held BP?
yep it sure did . if you look in the box , you will see the top of a 2nd smokless can , also with BP in it