Outgunned Agent Held at Gunpoint by Mexican Military
The item below was found at the USBP's Local 2544 Web site

August 3, 2008

A Tucson Sector Border Patrol agent was held at gunpoint by the Mexican military last night south of Ajo. While we're certain that some managers within the DHS and the President of Mexico will find a way to blame the Border Patrol agent, we would like to point out that the agent was in the United States, doing his job. Mexican military personnel crossed over the border and pointed rifles at him. Backup units arrived from the Ajo Border Patrol station, and the Mexican military personnel eventually returned to Mexico. Once again, they come into our country, point rifles at our agents, and are allowed to return to Mexico as if nothing happened. One can only imagine the outrage if American soldiers or Border Patrol agents entered Mexico and pointed rifles at someone. Unfortunately, this sort of behavior by Mexican military personnel has been going on for years. They are never held accountable, and the United States government will undoubtedly brush this off as another case of "Oh well, they didn't know they were in the United States." A few years ago the Mexican military went a step further and put a .50 calibre rifle round through the rear window of a Border Patrol agent's patrol vehicle south of Ajo. Nothing was ever done. Nobody was ever held accountable. Even worse, nothing has changed. Particularly galling is the fact that the Mexican military often pulls these stunts in Humvees donated to them by the American taxpayers (although they were apparently on foot this time). We note that Border Patrol agents have historically driven worn-out, junk vehicles.

We will withhold further comment on this incident until we see how our leaders handle it. We don't have much confidence in most of them. They usually just sell us out, make excuses for the Mexican military, and invite more of the same.

It is fortunate that this incident didn't end in a very ugly gunfight.

MOre to come,......

GTC

Better watch out talking about stuff like that,.McCain and his man Lindsey Graham will get upset.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue2duZZ1yGw

Most Americans don't care. The southern border of our country is just as far away as Iraq as far as they're concerned.

And they won't open their eyes, I suppose, to see what is going on in their own communities.
When 9/11 happened I asked a friend of mine who was from New York if the people in New York would even care about it if it had happened in Kansas City or Dallas. He thought a minute then said, "Probably not". He was probably right.

From Dana Rorbacher,............

What Happened To Justice In America?
08/04/2008

What happened to justice in America? It certainly wasn�t served on July 28 when the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the unjust convictions of Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean. As it stands today, these two brave border protectors must now serve out their full 10-plus-year sentences for shooting and wounding a Mexican drug smuggler they encountered while he was carrying a million-dollar payload of narcotics along the Southern border in Texas. What started off as simple procedural mistakes by the agents has turned into an unimaginable travesty of justice unlike anything I�ve ever seen in my 30 years in Washington, D.C.

It�s difficult to reconcile why U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton would choose to seek out drug smuggler Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila, in Mexico to offer him immunity, unconditional border-crossing cards and free medical care in exchange for his testimony against the border agents. Ramos and Compean did not wake up the morning of Feb.17, 2005, with the intention of committing a crime, unlike the illegal alien drug-smuggling �victim.� They put on their uniforms, strapped their weapons around their waists and pinned on their badges, as they had for five and 10 years respectively, with the intention of patrolling our borders to protect America.

It�s no secret our Southern border is a virtual war zone where our border patrol agents and local law enforcement officers are often outgunned and outmanned by the violent drug cartels. So when Agents Ramos and Compean testified they thought Davila pointed a weapon at them, wouldn�t that seem reasonable to assume given the dangerous conditions they face everyday along the border? Not according to U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton, who decided to give the benefit of the doubt to a drug smuggler transporting a million dollars worth of drugs who said he was unarmed rather than siding with our law enforcement officers.


Sutton�s decision to throw the book at the agents by charging them with a federal civil rights violation under the color of the law and under the 924(c) statute (unlawful discharge of a firearm during a crime of violence, which carries a ten-year mandatory minimum sentence) is not only despicable, but a dangerous precedent to set for every law enforcement officer in America. There has never been another instance where this statue, originally intended as a sentence-enhancement for drug traffickers and criminals, has been used against law enforcement officers acting within their scope of official duties. Every policeman has now been put on notice: Discharge your weapon in a split-second, deadly force situation and you, too, could face 10 years in prison if an overzealous prosecutor decides your decision was the wrong one.

Despite their disapproving posture during the Dec 3, 2007, hearing where (in which my Communications Director, Tara Setmayer, witnessed the appellate judges say first hand, �it does seem the government overreacted� in this prosecution), the judges, after almost eight months of deliberation, issued a 46 page ruling in complete contrast to what happened in court. The judges questioned why the prosecutors �stacked� the charges and got the government�s attorney to admit their drug-smuggling star witness �told some lies.�. What could have possibly happened between the hearing and now?

The appellate court claims that �the jury was the fact-finder�; �the jury heard all of the evidence�the case was conducted fairly and without reversible error.� But was it really? The jury was never told Davila was more than a one-time offender; smuggled drugs while under immunity, was in possession of a border-crossing card our government gave him, four months before testifying against Ramos and Compean and that he potentially violated his immunity agreement by not giving up any information about the cartel he was working for. Sutton�s office was well aware of these facts. It successfully petitioned the trial judge to seal that information from the jury and, to the chagrin of most reasonable people, the appellate court ruled that the protection of the Davila�s 5th Amendment rights outweighed the relevancy of his additional smuggling activities.

Unless President Bush shows Ramos and Compean the same Christian charity he used to commute the sentence of his friend Scooter Libby, two wives are without their husbands, and six children will be without their fathers for the next decade. If the President does not do the right thing by Ramos and Compean, their prosecution will be one of the worst black marks on this administration. I will continue to fight for these brave men because of their willingness to die to protect all of us. For every day they continue to spend behind bars, every American should be demanding answers to what happened to real justice in America?



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Republican Congressman Dana Rohrabacher represents California?s 46th District

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Put state of the art weapons on the border with the military personnel to use them, AND ALLOW THEM TO DO SO! We can kick the Mexicans ass again if we have to.

This is just an absolute heartbreaker,...........

And T.,......we DO have to,...pretty quick like.

Link: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-deputy4-2008aug04,0,655304.story

Sheriff's deputy who was shot dead guarded highly dangerous inmates


Authorities are investigating whether his job at the L.A. County jail, which put him in touch with Mexican Mafia gang members, is connected to his death. They are also considering two other motives.
By Stuart Pfeifer and Tami Abdollah, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
August 4, 2008
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A Los Angeles County sheriff's deputy gunned down Saturday outside his boyhood home in Cypress Park had been assigned to guard the most dangerous inmates in the county, including members of the notorious Mexican Mafia gang, authorities said Sunday.

Los Angeles police and sheriff's officials said the prospect that Deputy Juan Abel Escalante was killed because of his work at the jail remained one of three possible motives. Investigators were also considering the possibility that neighborhood gang violence or a personal grudge were behind the killing.



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"As of right now, all of those possibilities are on the table," said Los Angeles Police Department Deputy Chief Sergio Diaz.

Escalante, 27, was shot to death outside his parents' home about 5:40 a.m. Saturday as he left for work at the downtown Men's Central Jail. He was assigned to the "high power" unit, where dangerous inmates -- many of them violent gang members -- are housed in single-man cells, Diaz and Sheriff Lee Baca said.

Detectives from LAPD's robbery-homicide division were investigating the killing with the assistance of detectives from the sheriff's homicide division and the jail's gang unit. Baca said Escalante's assignment put him in touch with members of the Mexican Mafia, a gang known to direct street crime and violence from behind prison walls.

"Until we can verify anything, it has to be looked at. In a homicide of this kind, with a person who's from a neighborhood that's had some difficulty with gangs, you can't rule anything out, particularly that," Baca said.

Witnesses said they saw a white, four-door car approach Escalante shortly before gunfire erupted. The deputy, his wife and their three children were living with his parents while preparing to purchase a home in Pomona.

At Men's Central Jail on Sunday, deputies wore black bands across their badges and dress uniforms with black ties in remembrance of their fallen colleague.

"They're not taking it well," said Sheriff's Sgt. Ron Bottomley, who supervised Escalante for the last year. "It's a very sober situation. We're a family. He had two families. He was a great family man, and he had a family here. Just like his family is grieving him, so are we."

A small memorial for Escalante was set up near his parents' home at the corner of Thorpe and Aragon avenues.

Bouquets of flowers surrounded about a dozen candles that were arranged in the shape of a cross. White roses and blue carnations were left with a simple note: "In memory of Deputy Escalante."

Cypress Park, a blue-collar neighborhood northeast of downtown, has had a history of gang warfare. Earlier this year, a shooting outside an elementary school near Escalante's home touched off a fierce gun battle between gang members and police in nearby Glassell Park.

Escalante had been considered a local success story because he grew up in a neighborhood plagued by gang violence and was pursuing a career in law enforcement.

"He was this close to moving out of that neighborhood," said Bottomley, moving his thumb and index finger millimeters apart, "and getting into, for him, his dream home. It would be his first home. We're talking weeks away. He was so happy everything was going well. . . . Now are they going to have that dream home? In a matter of seconds, everything was taken away from him."

Many of the 800 employees at Men's Central Jail have been touched by Escalante's death.

"He was the cream of the crop, and that's what really hurts," Bottomley said, his eyes red and tearing up. "You've got three kids that are going to have to grow up without a dad.

"He was close to everybody. He was one of those outstanding guys that there wasn't a person in the jail that [could] say anything bad about him. He was a good, fair man, an outstanding deputy. He was fair with the inmates but firm. If I gave him orders to do something, he was saying, 'Yes, sir' before I could finish it."

Escalante, an Army reservist, was a 2 1/2 -year department veteran. Most deputies for their first assignments work in county jails for several years before they are transferred to patrol duties.

"We always try to be prepared for everything, but one thing we cannot be prepared for is when you lose somebody," Bottomley said. "And through all of it, you have to stay professional and do your job. But you know, we're all human. In some aspects we have to be more than human. . . . You still have to come in the next day and do your job, and a part of you has been torn away."

One sheriff's deputy, who asked not to be identified because he had not been given authorization to speak to the media, said guards at Los Angeles County jails often confront fear that inmates may try to harm them outside jail walls.

"You never talk about your family, where you live, your hobbies," the deputy said. "Most guys don't wear wedding rings. You don't want to give the bad guys ammo to be able to say, 'I know the name of your wife, your children.' "

It wouldn't be difficult for gang members or former inmates to follow deputies home from Men's Central Jail, the deputy said.

"They know where you work. They could just post up on the driveway and wait for you to leave," he said.

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Times staff writers Ari Bloomekatz and Andrew Blankstein contributed to this report.

" members of the Mexican Mafia, a gang known to direct street crime and violence from behind prison walls."

.....at risk of belaboring the obvious,.....THIS is quite simply unacceptable,.........yet another example of the general malaise out in Kal.

GTC

Bad situation for USBP, i am glad the agent wasn't harmed.

I've got a friend of mine, who i was in the Army with, who went to work for El Paso, TX PD and then later went to work for the USBP at El Paso.

Sorry to hear about the LASO Deputy, these Mexican Mafia, folks are the real deal and not to be taken lightly. They'll put the hit on your azz from inside the jail, and communicate it outside and it's a done deal.

The Mexican military is assisting the drug smuglers. It's really that simple.

Don't ya think there are people in high places on this side of the boarder assisting those drug smuglers? I would believe that to be the case with the money involved.

Start treating border incursion as what they are.......ACTS OF WAR! Start shooting a few Mexican Troops and maybe they will get the point. Every Coyote or Boder Runner for Drug Dealers should be Strung up and hung from that new fence, by their necks. Les

could not agree more. I might also suggest a catapult for illegals that sneak back a second time.

So true.....

If we could just get the "foreign policy" guys to come home.....



Casey

what happened to America? we used to have a backbone and we stuck to our guns when anyone messed with us.

This photo's taken not all that far from my lurk,......

Note Mr Chertof's inpenetrable "Barrier",......

Link: http://www.americanpatrol.com/ABP/PHOTO-OF-THE-DAY/2008/ARCHIVE/080804.html

GTC

I'm trying to figure out the juxtaposition of " Unanimously passed ",.....and the material in the link following. It would seem that the " Will of their people, per their elected representantives " belongs in quotes,......and is of little moment

Link: http://www.ctl.ca/issues/ISArticle.asp?id=87804&issue=08012008

So the material above, versus the following, I can't really make heads or tails outta' this,........but CAN tell you that "Hidden Compartments" abound,.......and are being discovered / busted almost daily,.........the vehicle safety issue is of course a different subject.

Link: http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN0437826120080804

GTC

I don't know about that crossfire. Seems to me an ugly gunfight is just what should have happened. Our military can be UGLY when asked.

Link: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5924476.html

Sorry if someone else has genned up a thread re; this long overdue event,.....but it IS within the parameters of this thread, sure certain,........

This rectal orfice was not to fat to execute,......

God Bless Texas, and Semper Coonass!

GTC

Medellin executed for rape, murder of Houston teens
By ALLAN TURNER and ROSANNA RUIZ Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle
Aug. 6, 2008, 12:36AM
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Jose Medellin's case created international controversy when the United Nations' world court determined Texas had violated the killer's rights under the 1963 Vienna Convention on Consular Relations.

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Print Email Del.icio.usDiggTechnoratiYahoo! BuzzHUNTSVILLE � The state of Texas defied an international court and executed Jose Ernesto Medellin late Tuesday after the U.S. Supreme Court denied a stay of execution for the killer in the 1993 Houston gang rape-murders of two teenage girls.

Medellin, 33, was pronounced dead by lethal injection at 9:57 p.m., nine minutes after receiving the fatal cocktail and nearly four hours after his scheduled 6 p.m. execution.

In his final statement, Medellin apologized for his crime: "I'm sorry that my actions brought you pain. I hope this brings the closure to what you seek," he said. "Don't ever hate them for what they do. Never harbor hate."

He then looked toward the witness room in which his friend, Sandra Crisp, was watching, crying softly, and smiled. "I love you," he said.

In the adjoining witness room, relatives of the two victims watched with little apparent emotion.

Medellin, a Mexican national who spent most of his life in the United States, was condemned for the June 1993 murders of Jennifer Ertman, 14, and Elizabeth Pe�a, 16.

The girls were raped and strangled with a belt and shoelace after they stumbled into a drunken gang initiation rite while cutting through the park to get home before their curfew.

Four days after the crime, a tip from a gang member's brother led authorities to the bodies, then to the suspects.

Within three hours of his arrest, Medellin admitted his role in the gruesome murders, appalling authorities with his boastful, callous description of the night's events.

At issue in Medellin's last-minute appeal was his assertion that authorities refused his right to contact the Mexican Consulate after his arrest. By doing so, his attorneys argued, officials violated a 1963 treaty signed by the U.S. and 165 other countries that should have granted him access. His case stirred international controversy when the United Nations' high court found his rights had been violated. The court ordered the execution be stayed.

While some cheered Texas' decision to execute him on Tuesday, others warned that his death could render the treaty void, putting the lives of American citizens arrested overseas in jeopardy.

The fathers of the victims, however, expressed relief.

"It's a long time coming," Adolfo Pe�a said, "Fifteen years is a long time. I wish those two girls could've lived that long."

Randy Ertman stood with his arm around Christina Alamaraz, a close friend. He said recent media attention had been too focused on Medellin and not their daughters.

Sandra Babcock, a law professor at Northwestern University in Chicago and an attorney for Medellin, said the case was not just about one Mexican national on death row.

"It's also about ordinary Americans who count on the protections of the consulate when they travel abroad in strange lands," she said. "It's about the reputation of the U.S. as a nation that adheres to the rule of law."

Hours before the execution, death penalty supporters and opponents gathered at Huntsville's Walls Unit, site of the state execution chamber.

Elaine Jackson of Houston, who identified herself as a friend of the Pe�as, was among those supporting the execution.

"The girls didn't get a second chance, why should he?" Jackson demanded. "Why should he keep on breathing?"

On the other side of the street, Nancy Bailey was among those opposing the execution. Putting Medellin to death, she said, would flout the nation's treaty commitments and endanger Americans arrested abroad.

Medellin, who granted few interviews on death row, told a Mexican news reporter that he'd had 15 years in prison to compose his emotions. On Monday and Tuesday he visited with his parents, whom he had not seen since 2001, and spoke by phone with his younger brother, who is serving 40 years for his part in the crime.

Jose Medellin had insisted he told police he was a Mexican citizen; Gov. Rick Perry's office said he did not. In 2004, the world court, acting on a Mexican lawsuit against the U.S., ordered hearings to determine if the cases of Medellin and dozens of other Mexican nationals in custody had been damaged by the treaty violations.

President Bush urged the hearings be held. Texas, however, appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court, which held that only Congress had authority to demand such hearings.

Weeks after the decision, a bill retroactively calling for the hearings was introduced in Congress. The bill, however, remains in legislative limbo.

"Outside of Texas this is a huge diplomatic misstep," said Columbia Law School professor Sarah Cleveland. "Unfortunately, I doubt the international community is likely to brush this off as simply the actions of Texas. In the international community ... the United States is responsible for Texas' actions."

Judge Cathy Cochran, of the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals, took a different view.

"Some societies may judge our death penalty barbaric," she noted. "Most Texans, however, consider death a just penalty in certain rare circumstances. Many Europeans disagree. So be it."

Medellin was the second person executed for the attack.

Derrick O'Brien was put to death in July 2006. Gang leader Peter Cantu remains on death row. Two others, 17 at the time of the crime, had their death sentences commuted to life in prison.

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U.S. Customs and Border Patrol Agent Murdered
A manhunt is on for a gunman who shot and killed a customs agent in broad daylight in a parking lot this morning.

The unidentified agent, a member of the High Intensity Drug Trafficking Task Force, was taken to Memorial Regional Hospital in Hollywood, Florida in critical condition after the shooting, which occurred about 8:55 a.m., police spokesman Sgt. Bryan Davis said.

His death was announced around noon.

It is not known if the shooting outside the postal service's South Florida Processing and Distribution Center at Pines Boulevard and Dykes Road had anything to do with the agent's job, or if it was a random act of violence.

Davis said police are actively looking for the gunman, who is described as between 45 to 55 years old, with a full head of gray hair. He was wearing a short-sleeve, green plaid shirt and last seen driving eastbound on Pines Boulevard in a 2005 gray-green Chrysler 300 four-door sedan.

About 200 federal, state and local law enforcement agents are participating in a dragnet for the gunman, Davis said.

Officers canvassed businesses in the area, looking for any surveillance video tape that might show the shooting or the suspect.

A statewide alert has also been issued.

About a hundred officers assembled at the U.S. Customs and Border Protection office near the post office, many of them in bullet-resistant vests. A Blackhawk helicopter from the federal Department of Homeland Security made several stops there to pick up officers.

"We're just going to saturate the area," Davis said. "We'll just start turning over every rock."

Davis said officers responding to the shooting found the agent laying next to his black Chrysler 300 sedan.

The agent was shot once, but Davis would not say where.

The victim worked in internal affairs with Customs and Border Protection, said agency spokesman Jose Castellano. He had no further details.

The High Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas program coordinates local, state and federal law enforcement agencies to combat drug-related crime in targeted regions.

South Florida, including Broward, Miami-Dade, Monroe and Palm Beach counties, was designated for the program in 1990 because of the area's high level of drug trafficking.

The lobby of the postal service center, where people can drop off mail, was closed. However, Davis said the sorting area was open.

The center is one of three mail distribution centers in South Florida. The others are in Fort Lauderdale and Miami.

Anyone with information on the shooting is asked to call Broward Crime Stoppers at at 954-493-TIPS, Pembroke Pines police, 954-431-2200, or go online to: www.browardcrimestoppers.org.

The Washington Times has an article on this. see:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/aug/06/soldiers-cross-into-us-hold-guns-to-agent/

I think we need to use either larger forces of heavily armed Border Patrol officers or a simmilarly armed military force to follow the officers as they patrol. If anyone detains or threatens the officers, they should be permitted to surrender before the security force opens up.

Didn't DoD try military on the border within the last few years? I knew of a couple of NG units that were deployed, and i think some active duty units also. I don't know what happened to them, it either ran out of funding or they were needed in SWA.

Link: http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Aug06/0,4670,BorderAgents,00.html

Border agents unevenly spread on boundary
Wednesday, August 06, 2008

By MICHELLE ROBERTS, Associated Press Writer

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SAN ANTONIO � Despite efforts to add Border Patrol agents to areas where immigrant traffic is high and drug violence is flaring, officers assigned to the 2,000-mile boundary with Mexico are bunched up near the California coast. And some critics see politics at play.

An Associated Press analysis of Border Patrol staffing shows that the San Diego sector, with the shortest section of border and fences covering half the boundary, has four times the number of agents per mile that West Texas does and three times as many as most of Arizona.

That is the case even though the Tucson sector in Arizona has been the busiest spot for illegal crossings for years and El Paso sits next to a Mexican city that has seen a surge in drug-cartel violence so severe that Mexicans are pleading for asylum in the U.S.

"I think it makes us less safe," Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said of the way agents are posted along the border.

Border Patrol officials defend the staffing levels, saying San Diego's transportation routes and year-round balmy weather make it an attractive spot for smugglers.

Others suggest, however, that members of Congress who most embrace the agency's push are rewarded with more agents _ a notion a Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman rejected Wednesday.

Borderwide, staffing has increased dramatically in the past five years as political pressure to prevent illegal immigration has mounted. On the southern border, there are roughly 15,000 agents, up from 9,500 in 2004.

And while the most dramatic growth has occurred near the Arizona-California line and around El Paso, San Diego's short section of border has, by far, the most agents per mile at 37. That compares with 11 for most of Arizona and nine for the Rio Grande Valley and West Texas, based on head counts given to the AP in July.

The 60-mile San Diego sector is at the southern end of a county with roughly 3 million people. It has two major northbound highways and easy access to food, water and communication _ all of which make it inviting to smugglers and illegal immigrants.

But the sector is already heavily reinforced: Two-thirds of the border is blocked by fences or vehicle barriers. The most populous part of the boundary has nearly 10 miles of double-layer fences with stadium lights.

The border in Arizona and Texas is more wide open and more rural in many places, which can make it harder to guard. It also includes major interstates and sizable population centers where recent arrivals can easily blend in. The Rio Grande forms the border in Texas, but in many places it is possible to swim, wade or float across it.

Arizona has long been the busiest and deadliest section of the border, recording hundreds of deaths in recent years among immigrants who fell victim to the rocky terrain and the fierce desert heat and cold.

Nearly half the apprehensions of illegal immigrants along the Mexican border are made in the Tucson sector, but those numbers are a poor indicator of effectiveness because research indicates that people trying to sneak across get caught less than half the time, said Wayne Cornelius, a professor at the University of California at San Diego.

Border communities in Texas have seen a frightening rise in drug violence spilling across the border, with assassinations and kidnappings in the United States.

Laura Keehner, a spokeswoman for Homeland Security, which oversees the Border Patrol, said agents and other assets are allocated based on the needs of the individual sectors.

"The idea that we politicize where we put our Border Patrol and assets is flat wrong," she said. "The Border Patrol tells us what combination works best where. They're in the field every day."

Mark Endicott, a spokesman for Border Patrol in San Diego, said the sprawling city's close proximity to the border, favorable climate and many transportation options make the area unique. He declined to discuss whether San Diego's needs outweigh those of other sectors but said, "As far as the activity going on here in San Diego, the agents are needed."

Observers say, however, politics plays a role in how agents are allocated.

"In many cases, they're very political," said T.J. Bonner, president of the agents union. "Congress giveth and taketh away, so you can't just thumb your nose at Congress and say, `We're going to make these decisions based only on our enforcement needs.'"

San Diego is represented by Rep. Duncan Hunter, a Republican who has been among the most outspoken proponents of increased border security and fences. But a spokesman said the congressman has not pushed for more agents for San Diego.

"It's nothing we've done personally in this office," said Hunter spokesman Joe Kasper.

Texas leaders, under pressure from border communities with close ties to Mexico, have pushed Customs and Border Protection to collaborate more with communities affected by the fence planned along the border and to make sure systems for those entering legally run smoothly _ the kind of cajoling that has sometimes put them at odds with the agency.

Cornyn said he has asked the agency how it assigns agents.

"They say they have a formula, but I'm not convinced or persuaded that this is altogether a rational distribution of resources. There's a certain amount of whoever screams and yells gets taken care of first," the senator said.

Cornelius, the university researcher, said politics probably do play a part in staffing. The entire GOP congressional delegation from San Diego "would have screamed bloody murder if the Border Patrol had reduced San Diego sector staffing levels appreciably," he said.

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Looks like you're not to awfully up to speed on the "Medal Of Retreat",......

A Marine Nat. Guard unit overrun by punks with AKS,.....DOPERS,.....

they decorated the whole unit for something or another,......after they RETREATED,......under fire

last year,.....

sad stuff.

NO, repeat no bad call out on the USMC,......this was just some stupid no win political horseshit,.....and it IS verifiable.

GTC

Link: http://www.greeleytribune.com/article/20080806/NEWS/407158336/-1/FEATURES%26parentprofile=-1

Man accused of rape is in country illegally


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A man accused of raping a 12-year-old girl in Greeley last month is in the country illegally, according to Weld County sheriff's records, but because he was a juvenile in previous encounters with the law, he wasn't investigated by immigration officials.



Raul Jesus Mendoza is now 19, but he was prosecuted before for sexual assault on a child and designated as a sexual offender as a juvenile.



Mendoza was arrested July 27 after a 12-year-old west Greeley girl told her parents he raped her in an apartment of a mutual friend. The girl didn't report the rape for two days, then told her parents, who called the Greeley police.



Police said Mendoza had been arrested twice before:



� When he was 15, Mendoza was arrested on a charge of improperly touching a young girl, but the charges were dismissed;



� A year later, Mendoza was convicted of sexual assault on another girl, sentenced to two years in juvenile prison and was released after a year.



Immigration officials' policies state that juveniles are not investigated as illegal immigrants unless they're charged as adults. In Mendoza's previous arrests, his background was not checked because he was a juvenile.



But in the present case, Mendoza is an adult, and he has been charged with sexual assault on a child and unlawful sexual contact. His bond has been set at $200,000.



Carl Rusnok, spokesman for the Immigration and Customs Enforcement office, is stationed in Washington, D.C. and said he doesn't know of the Mendoza case. However, he said if Mendoza is convicted of the charges, he will serve his sentence in Colorado, then he would be deported after he's released from prison.



The charges against Mendoza would bring a sentence of two years to life in prison.



Rick Dill, the Offender Supervision Bureau chief for the Weld County Sheriff's Office, said research into Mendoza's background shows he was brought into the United States illegally as a child with his family, and despite living here several years, he never acquired the proper documents to live in the country legally.



Also, with his previous history, he is a registered sex offender, but couldn't be listed on the county's or city's sex offender Web sites because he was a juvenile.



Mendoza's next court date will be his arraignment on Aug. 11.

The border is a war zone thats for sure.
It seems at times like the new fences are working to some degree. It also seems like people still keep dying like its cool to do so. Apprehensions are down, more agents seem to be getting hired. People I talk to are detered to cross due to the increase in agents and funny to hear, even the presence of the military, that in all actuality have no arresting powers.

You want to understand the true US/Mexican Border? Read the book "The Reaper's Line" by Lee Morgan. You want an eye opener, you'll get that and more.

Here is my take on the whole thing.
Put up all the walls, fences, barriers you want, and they will still come.
Put an agent or military personnel on every foot of the border and they will still find a way to come.
Do both and they will still come over and some will still make it.
You can suppress the issue, but not fully eliminate it. Thats just the way it is.
Until both sides of the border work together to better the situation, you will not fix it. Plus we must also remember that not all illegals are from one place, they just cross in the same place.

You think we should ship them all back? That will make things worse. Whether people believe it or not. We need illegals just as much as we don't. Face it, wages won't change. Therefore, you still need someone to do the jobs lazy Americans won't do. Not saying anything derogatory here, but many people would rather go on wellfare than take an outside job or start at the bottom. We need immigrants, preferably legal, but we all no breaking the law is funner, so I guess the illegals will do. It is wrong and unfair, but we need someone to do the jobs.

The border issue will continue and no matter what. Obama or McCain in office, whoever it is, is gonna give the people already here amnesty. It stinks and is very unfair, but watch and see, it will happen. You think we have open borders now, watch what happens if Obama gets in and needs those votes in 4 years. Open borders will get worse.

The desert is littered with trash, rapes take place in the desert, people die, people get mugged, we spend a ton of money each year to prevent this, and yet it continues. There is no accountability, but the small steps taken have produced small results. Its a dent, but we need a hole and we need better.

For my own well-being, I am now wearing my bullet proof vest to work. Better be safe than sorry. But things down south are getting freaky, even if crossings have decreased. But thats the game.

People that have never been down to the border region and base what you write off Lou Dobbs and the news. I hate to dissapoint, but all their facts are not right. Get a first hand look at war zone. You'll think differently.
I see and hear what people go thru on a daily basis. I wonder, how bad must it be where they are from to risk everything for the chance to be poor here, but better off than where they came from?

Kique

Enrique's right about Lee Morgan II 's book "Reaper's Line, Life and death on the Mexican Border".

Here's a brief review from Pub's Weekly :

From Publishers Weekly
The U.S.-Mexican border is one of the most violent places on earth, writes retired drug enforcement agent Morgan. He makes his case over 500 pages of gunplay, fisticuffs and bloodshed interspersed with profanity-laced denunciations of rival agencies and clueless Washington officials who believe they understand illegal immigration and drug smuggling. Having enjoyed serving inVietnam, Morgan sought similar adventure in the Border Patrol and the Custom Service's drug enforcement service. Working mostly in Arizona, he found corrupt officials and Border Patrolmen cooperating with corrupt Mexican officials, police and soldiers to transport drugs and people into the U.S. Still, he and fellow officers intercepted countless shipments, which the author recounts in excessive but lively rounds of shootouts, car chases and murder. Reforms that created the Department of Homeland Security and shifted antidrug enforcement to the Border Patrol are disastrous, he asserts, because the patrol is hopelessly corrupt. Sneering at the current immigration debate, he insists no barrier or law can keep out Mexicans in search of work and that the money would be better spent on making Mexico prosperous enough to provide jobs for its people. Despite the incessant fireworks and macho prose style, the book provides a thoughtful view of these issues. (Sept.)
Copyright � Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.

Product Description
A true story of violence, drugs, human smuggling and dirty politicians along the Mexican/American border.

When he was 14, Lee Morgan learned to shoot a rifle from a young Marine who later became the "Texas Tower Sniper." Four years later, Lee was conducting CIA assassination missions in Vietnam. Then he spent the next 31 years on the U.S.-Mexico border as a federal agent, where the struggle against smugglers of drugs and starving human beings is as harrowing as anything Lee encountered in Vietnam.

The Reaper's Line is a non-fiction account of unparalleled official corruption, mass murders, gunfights, treason, betrayal, and government wrongdoing.

****************


If you want the straight skinny, and a look at the Border from Seasoned Veteran's perspective,.....READ THIS BOOK.
( I said that)

GTC

older political cartoon still relevant.

Radio show focuses on immigration
By Jonathon Shacat
Herald/Review

Published on Friday, July 25, 2008

HEREFORD � The founder of a new talk radio show recorded in Cochise County that focuses on border and illegal immigration issues says the program is already popular among listeners and he is hopeful it will only get better.

�On the Border with Al Garza,� which first aired July 14, is hosted by Garza, who is perhaps best known for his role as national executive director of the border watch group Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.



Chuck Alton decided to start Cochise Talk due to the lack of local originated radio in Sierra Vista and Cochise County. Garza consented to be the program�s host. The show appeals to conservatives, Christians and patriotic people, Alton said.

Four times per week new programming is produced. It is recorded in segments and then edited. Then a one-hour show is aired continuously in a loop on the Web site www.cochisetalk.com until the next program is produced.

�Our country has been transformed into an oasis for illegal aliens and their uneducated Third World mentality. We have been sold out by the various people we elected to represent our nation�s best interests,� Garza said during Thursday�s episode.



Listeners are encouraged to leave comments by either calling a telephone hotline or sending an e-mail. Garza reads some of the e-mails on the air.

Some of the recorded voicemail messages also are played during the show.

This is just bloody heartwarming,........maybe I should say Blood Boiling......?!

Link: http://www.maconnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3109&Itemid=34

Deputies respond to fight, discover kidnap attempt
Thursday, 07 August 2008
By D. Linsey Wisdom
News Editor


Olivar Angelo RobleroMacon County Sheriff�s deputies arrested a 36-year-old man after he allegedly attempted to kidnap a 9-year-old girl early Monday morning.

Olivar Angelo Roblero of 397 Iotla Valley Park Road was charged with two felonious counts � attempted kidnapping and attempted abduction � and one misdemeanor assault on a child under 12. The arrest came after deputies initially responded to a 9-1-1 call at 2:32 a.m. reporting an altercation between five men involving two-by-fours.

�I need an officer out here ... now, please. I have Mexicans trying to get my nine-year-old little girl in the bed with them and I�ve got my15-year-old brother that is basically going ballistic on them,� said the caller. �I�ve got five of them trying to jump on my brother.�

The caller reported the Hispanic men were using �busted up two-by-fours� to attack her brother.

Deputies Lynn Dulakis and Stephanie Pellicer responded to the call.

�Upon arrival, [the mother] informed deputies that a neighbor of Hispanic heritage had attempted to drag her daughter ... to 397 Iotla Valley Park Road against her will,� wrote Deputy Lynn Dulakis on the arrest report.

Sheriff Robert Holland said the family had come home late that evening after attending a family function. �The girl had a new puppy that needed to go outside and so she took it out inside her fenced-in yard,� he said. While she was alone outside, a man grabbed her from behind and attempted to take her over the fence.

�Her 15-year-old uncle chased the man to his house and the fight broke out,� Holland said.

Officials found Roblero in the bedroom at the Iotla Valley Park Road address with a cut on his left cheek. He offered little information and an interpreter was not present, according to the arrest report.

Two witnesses, the mother and a female roommate, identified Roblero as the man who had attempted to abduct the child. The report indicated that the suspect had consumed drugs and/or alcohol, but Holland said he could not release any further information about that issue.

Roblero was arrested and is being held on a $20,000 secured bond.

�The man is not a U.S. citizen and has admitted he is not a citizen,� Holland said. �ICE (Immigrations and Customs Enforcement) has been already been contacted.�

Holland said it is standard practice that when an illegal citizen is arrested, they are processed through the system and, if found guilty, are required to serve any detention prior to deportment.

The young girl was uninjured in the alleged kidnap attempt, said Holland.

No charges were brought against the uncle and Holland said he did not foresee any additional charges being filed.

Roblero is to appear in court on Wednesday, Aug. 13.

9 killed, 9 injured in SR 79 rollover, highway closed



NEAR FLORENCE -- Nine people were killed and nine more were hurt in a single-vehicle rollover on the highway outside of Florence.

...

According to DPS, a 1998 GMC SUV carrying a total of 18 people rolled over on the right side of the road at about milepost 117, 15 miles south of Florence.

DPS said the SUV was traveling north on SR 79 at a high rate of speed when the driver lost control. The vehicle went off the road and into a wash. The SUV flipped, coming to rest on its roof.

Nine people were confirmed dead on the scene. The medical examiner is en route.

...

It's believed that the occupants of the SUV were undocumented immigrants. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents are on the scene, working with DPS. It's not known at this point if any coyotes were among the dead.

While the SUV was apparently going quite fast, it was not being chased at the time of the wreck.

http://www.azfamily.com/news/homepa...s-080708-fatal-rollover.232cdb2f.html?bn

See? I told you guys in another thread last week that we should invade Mexico. who's with me?

Geez Bristoe, you actually posted something worthwhile.

In other words, I agree with you! ..... About Grahamnesty and Juan McCan't.

Indeed what it should be!

However methinks this is just more of our "conditioning ...... "

IOW, "Welcome to the nanny state and YOU WILL like it!"

Juarez,.....the battleground, ( A mite CLOSER than Bagdad )

Link: http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_10121004

Police commander slain in Ju�rez
By Daniel Borunda / El Paso Times
Article Launched: 08/07/2008 12:00:00 AM MDT



Related: Past stories on Ju�rez violence
EL PASO -- A Chihuahua state police commander was gunned down at his Ju�rez home late Tuesday night as the body count continued to grow. More than 700 people have been killed in Ju�rez this year.

Vidal Barraza Ortiz, 42, was a commander in the State Investigation Agency of the state attorney general's office, police said. Investigators found 28 bullet casings at the scene.

Barraza Ortiz had worked several assignments, including on the task force on women's murders.

In separate cases, the body of an unidentified man in his 40s was found Tuesday night in a plastic barrel. The man had been shot multiple times, his feet and hands were bound, and he had gray tape and a wire around his neck.

Tuesday afternoon, an unidentified man, age 20 to 25, was fatally stabbed in colonia Francisco I. Madero.

Wednesday morning, another unidentified man was found shot to death in colonia Parajes de Oriente.

Daniel Borunda may be reached at [email protected]; 546-6102.

Another one bites the dust,.............

The "Tear in the Right Eye" was a nice touch, I thought....

Link: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5931094.html

Texas executes illegal immigrant from Honduras
By MICHAEL GRACZYK Associated Press
Aug. 7, 2008, 6:52PM


AP
Heliberto Chi was executed for the 2001 murder of his former boss at an Arlington clothing store.

Share
Print Email Del.icio.usDiggTechnoratiYahoo! BuzzHUNTSVILLE � An illegal immigrant from Honduras who claimed his treaty rights were violated when he was arrested for a robbery-murder near Dallas was executed Thursday evening.

"God forgive them, receive my spirit," Heliberto Chi said in English. In Spanish, he told a friend watching through a window that he loved him and appreciated his hard work. He appeared to be whispering a prayer in Spanish with a tear at the corner of his right eye as the lethal drugs began to take effect.

One of Chi's cousins, who was among the witnesses, sobbed uncontrollably. Two sons of his victims watched through another window and Chi glanced at them briefly but didn't appear to acknowledge them.

Chi was pronounced dead nine minutes later at 6:25 p.m. CDT.

Lawyers for Chi had claimed in appeals to the U.S. Supreme Court that he should have been told he could get legal assistance from the Honduran consulate when he was arrested in California and extradited to Texas to face charges for killing his former boss, Armand Paliotta, at a men's clothing store during a robbery 7 1/2 years ago. Chi had once worked for Paliotta as a tailor at the store in Arlington, between Dallas and Fort Worth.

The Supreme Court, ruling about 2 1/2 hours before his scheduled execution time, rejected his appeal without dissent.

The arguments in his case, focusing on rights of foreigners under international treaty, were similar to those used unsuccessfully Tuesday by lawyers for condemned Texas prisoner Jose Medellin. In that case, the Supreme Court, with four of the nine justices dissenting, rejected his appeal and the Mexican-born Medellin was executed for participating in the gruesome gang rape and murders of two teenage Houston girls 15 years ago.

Unlike Medellin, Chi was not among some 50 death row inmates around the country, all Mexican born, who the International Court of Justice said should have new hearings in U.S. courts to determine whether the 1963 Vienna Convention treaty was violated during their arrests. Mexico had sued in the court on behalf of its citizens condemned in the U.S.

President Bush asked states to review those cases and legislation to implement the process was introduced recently in Congress, but the Supreme Court ruled earlier this year neither the president nor the international court could force Texas to wait.

Chi's attorneys argued that unlike the Vienna Convention obligations with Mexico, the 1927 U.S. Bilateral Treaty of Friendship, Commerce and Consular Rights with Honduras was specifically between the U.S. and Honduras and was self-executing, meaning it didn't require legislation to have effect. They said the treaty also conferred individual rights and incorporated international law into enforceable domestic law.

"There can be little doubt that this issue � the proper construction of treaty provisions � is sufficiently meritorious to warrant review," Chi's lawyers said in their Supreme Court request for a reprieve.

The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals, the state's highest criminal court, late Wednesday rejected a similar appeal.

Chi had visited the suburban Dallas store in 2001, then returned after closing and was let in by Paliotta after saying he'd left his wallet behind. Once inside, he pulled out a gun and demanded a money bag.

Paliotta was shot and killed. Another employee was wounded trying to run away and a third hid among clothing racks and called 911 for help. On a recording of the call played at his trial, Chi can be heard calling the hiding employee, in Spanish, to "Come to the front" of the store.

With police on the way, he fled a few minutes later, jumped into a waiting car and sped off.

He was arrested in Reseda, Calif., northwest of Los Angeles, about six weeks later. His 18-year-old pregnant girlfriend had turned him for assaulting her and told authorities he was wanted for murder in Texas. The couple had been on the run, crisscrossing the country.

Terry O'Rourke, a lawyer on Chi's legal team who teaches international law at Houston's University of St. Thomas, said Chi's guilt wasn't the issue.

"Chi is a murderer, Medellin is a murderer," O'Rourke said. "But we don't kill all murderers. We don't execute all murderers. We do it according to the law.

"When your state violates international law to kill somebody, it has very negative consequences."

Chi was set to die last September, but his execution was stopped because the Supreme Court was looking into whether lethal injection procedures were unconstitutionally cruel. When the justices earlier this year upheld the method as proper, his date was reset for Thursday.

The getaway driver at the murder scene, Hugo Sierra, who is the brother of Chi's girlfriend, is serving a life prison term.

Chi would say little about the crime in an interview with The Associated Press shortly before his then-scheduled execution last year.

"My situation is not about being innocent or guilty," he said. "My rights were violated."

"If it's the Lord's will" and he was executed, Chi said he had "great peace in my mind and soul."

Four other Texas prisoners are set to die this month, including two more next week. They're among at least 15 Texas inmates with execution dates in the coming months.

The total cost of the medical care for the still living people in that SUV could run into the millions.... not likely anyone from Mexico will be paying a dime of those costs either....

agree 100%. As long as we are governed by a punch of pussies it ain't gonna happen though.

There's not one damn job in America that an American won't do. But they won't do it for the low wages an illegal foreign trespasser will work for. All this "doing jobs Americans won't do" talk is pure BULLCHIT. The US needs absolutely no illegals in this country. Get them all the hell out NOW!! Yeah, I know, they're all good people contributing to the economy and trying to make a living. You know what? I'm a pretty decent guy contributing to the economy and trying to make a living too. Which laws do I get to break? Can I choose some? Will I be forgiven? Will the President and Congress try to tell law enforcement to just look the other way when I break them?

Our national sovereignty has been abandoned over this crap. We're willing to shed the blood of American soldiers to protect the borders of Iraq & Afganastan but not the borders of our own country and that's a battle that wouldn't take the better part of one morning.

Just drop the "we need illegals" crap. Move to Mexico and see how illegals are treated there. And stay.

I'm not so sure I can agree with that. I flipped burgers when I was younger, I washed dishes in a seafood restaurant, my wife made beds and cleaned hotel rooms, so why would you think that 25 years later Americans not capable of doing this work?

Back in the early eighties I worked for four years in a meat packing plant, the problem "as I see it" is that today Mexicans are now doing that job for the same wages I was making 20 years ago. You are right, the wages will stay the same so long as the steady supply of those who will accept them is not cut off. We don't need illegals, employers who wish to pay low wages need them.

Now we can argue who prospers from that scenario, low prices for all, or higher profits for buisness, but the fact that these jobs have gravitated from jobs that paid decent wages to jobs"Americans wont do" cannot be written off to American laziness when Americans performed ALL of these jobs in the past.

[quote=Enrique] Face it, wages won't change. Therefore, you still need someone to do the jobs lazy Americans won't do. Not saying anything derogatory here, but many people would rather go on wellfare than take an outside job or start at the bottom. We need immigrants, preferably legal, but we all no breaking the law is funner, so I guess the illegals will do. It is wrong and unfair, but we need someone to do the jobs.


I don't agree with you on this one. Take away welfare and I'd bet those jobs will be filled.
This is too much like John McCain's statement about the labor that Mexican, or other migrant, workers were doing in picking melons or whatever they were picking and he said that Americans wouldn't do it for even fifty dollars an hour. I don't know about you but I'll do whatever I have to do in the way of labor to provide for my family. Including stoop labor that I probably can't do. That atitude just seems to indicate a lack of respect for Americans.

Those effers come here because some American is willing to look the other way and unlawfully pay them a slaves wage for their labor.

Won't respond to any comments,........right this minute

will say that it's NICE to see SOME comments, ....

And feel some HEAT,....here at the fire,....

I know that Oil's important,....but THIS ,......e.g.

The Border and it's lack of integrity should be THE election issue.

.........that can only be adressed by "The Will of The People"

Leaving it up to "Administrations"( of either stripe) hasn't exactly panned out,.....has it now ?

GTC

On our latest ( yesterday's) medical bills,.....

Link: http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/daily/local/93184.php

Likely illegal immigrants
Pima medical examiner working to ID 9 killed in rollover
HEIDI ROWLEY
Tucson Citizen
Three of the 10 injured in a single-SUV rollover that killed nine Thursday northwest of Tucson remain at University Medical Center.
Two of the men, whose ages were estimated in the 20s and 30s, are in critical condition, said spokeswoman Darci Slaten. Another, who underwent surgery on his leg, is in stable condition.
The Department of Public Safety reported that 19 people were inside the SUV when it rolled just before 8 a.m. Thursday on state Route 79, about 15 miles southeast of Florence. DPS has confirmed that nine people died in the crash. The 10 injured were taken to hospitals in Tucson and Phoenix.
According to a DPS statement Friday morning, investigators have not had a chance to question the person they think was driving the SUV.
All of those who died in the crash are believed to be illegal immigrants. However, their identities may not be officially released for several days, to first notify relatives of the deaths, the release said.
Guatemalan Consul General Oscar Padilla in Phoenix said at least five of the survivors are from El Salvador and three from Mexico, and at least one of those who died was from Guatemala.
Padilla and his counterparts from El Salvador and Mexico are helping Pima County Medical Examiner Dr. Bruce Parks as he works to identify the victims of Thursday's crash.
Speed and driver inattention appear to have contributed to the collision, the release said, but the cause remains under investigation.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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This is just stupid,.....nothing fancy,.....just stupid,....

like these "Administrations"

Link: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/17127563/detail.html

13 Suspected Illegals Walk Away From Cops
Local, State, And Federal Agents Turn Away

POSTED: 9:44 pm MDT August 7, 2008
UPDATED: 6:13 am MDT August 8, 2008


AURORA, Colo. -- Going 75 mph in a 55 mph zone seemed like a simple speeding ticket. Instead, the stop along Interstate 70 Wednesday morning would highlight an immigration system that is still full of holes.

A red Dodge minivan was pulled over going eastbound near Tower Road at 9:19 a.m.

According to the police report, the Aurora officer found a driver and 13 passengers in the van. Further investigation revealed that all 13 said they were picked up in Mexico two days prior by a man offering to get them work in Kansas.

Valente Cantoral-Herrera, 33, faces 13 counts of human smuggling and assault charges for allegedly injuring one of the Aurora officers who responded. Despite several phone calls to state and federal agencies though, all 13 suspected illegal immigrants, including several women and a 12-year-old boy, were set free.

"It's certainly our position we want to work with Immigration. But, as a local agency, we are not in the business of enforcing immigration law," said Aurora Police Detective Bob Friel.

In the arrest report, one policeman writes, "I then inquired about the CSP task force that was formed for this issue." Officer Javen Harper was told "they only act as a type of liaison between police and ICE."

The state patrol's Immigration Enforcement Unit was formed in July 2007. They did not respond to the scene. A spokesman, Sgt. John Hahn, said, " We can't respond to calls within city limits. This is a problem for all of us in law enforcement. If we responded to every call, it would require resources we don't have."

Citing operational constraints, agents with Immigration and Customs Enforcement also refused to respond.

"ICE responds to the vast majority of calls from local jurisdictions.On rare occasions, we don't have the manpower to spare," said ICE regional spokesman Carl Rusnok in Dallas, Texas.

In April, Aurora's city council approved an expansion to its immigration detention center near I-70 and Peoria, nearly quadrupling it to hold 1500 people. None of the 13 suspected illegals was brought there. In the end, a police sergeant and commander told the officer on the scene to let the suspected illegal immigrants go.

They were last seen walking south, away from I-70.

"At that point, they disappear into society. We've lost track of them," said Friel.

"Sherrif Joe Arpaio",.....disturbing report,.....

Link: http://video.newsmax.com/?assetId=V2780545

Absolute and pure elitist BS!!! Over MY life I did many of the "JOBS AMERICANS WON'T DO"!!!!!

I'm fed up with this hogwash and won't give you one d@mned inch on the issue. You're just another rationalizing wimp with what seems to be an ethnic agend.

What the H##L Part of ILLEGAL don't you understand???

I'm going to chide Enrique as gentle as what seems appropriate.......

quoting him,....

"We need immigrants, preferably legal, but we all no breaking the law is funner, so I guess the illegals will do."

..........I'd like to hear this elaborated on,....just a bit,
there might be a great consultancy, and signifigant revenue in convincing the landowner / rancher, and those of us who perodically discover "Stinkers" in this vast, hostile area,
......how much "Funner" this is.

Tell that as well to the beat up , raped, and robbed (sometimes Kilt!) clients of the filthy Coyote Merchants,......

.............oh, yeah, in closing,....please elaborate at legnth on your "Bullet proof Vest".......thet you wear now,

.....Is that "Funner" too?

GTC

"Jobs that Americans are too lazy to do"

.....a riposte,.....caution, it's fairly passionate, and pulls few punches

Link: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=71715

What jobs Americans won't do?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: August 08, 2008
1:00 am Eastern

� 2008

Now that the U.S. economy has officially lost nearly a half million jobs this year, what is the excuse for winking at illegal immigration?

President Bush once told us famously the illegal aliens came to "do the jobs Americans wouldn't do."

It seems clear now with the latest reports of the Bureau of Labor Statistics there are no such jobs. Unemployment has hit a four-year high of 5.7 percent.

Yet, nothing changes with regard to the policies of Congress, the president or the proposed new policies of the major presidential candidates. They are all still marching to the tune of "comprehensive immigration reform" including some form of massive amnesty for millions � perhaps tens of millions � whose first act in America was breaking the law.

You saw John McCain and Barack Obama pandering to the extremists at La Raza.

George Bush hasn't changed his mind about the need for more foreign workers � at least publicly.

And members of Congress, before running off for summer vacation, were busy writing new laws to increase the number of visas available for those they hope to make their new constituents.

(Column continues below)



So what is it that drives politicians to serve the interests of non-citizens over taxpayers?

What is it that sustains the momentum of accommodation to an outright invasion by foreigners?

When 8.8 million Americans are officially unemployed and the economy is sputtering, how is it that a policy supposedly based on the need for more foreign workers doesn't change?

The answer is not comforting.

America has, for the most part, ceased to be a sovereign, self-governing society under the rule of law and guided by the will of the people.

I don't just blame the politicians. I blame Americans who are simply too ignorant to recognize what is happening around them or too unwilling to stand up and take action.

The master plan behind this insidious plot to open America's gates to untold millions of poor, uneducated non-English-speaking workers, not to mention vicious criminal gangs, drug dealers and the predatory scum of Latin America, is explained in great detail in Jerome Corsi's excellent work, "The Late Great USA."

It was never about jobs.

And that could not be more obvious today after the jobs have gone away and the invitations for the hordes continue to be sent.

It was about transforming our society into a more multicultural one so there would be less resistance to regional and, eventually, global government.

The plan was exposed so well by WND's relentless reporting, the book and a documentary version of "The Late Great USA," the architect of the plan recently threw in the towel, explaining the plot had been foiled.

But don't accept that as the last word on this convergence plan. It's not dead. It has merely been slowed down. The work continues. And the evidence is the continued efforts to ensure illegal immigrants already here stay and that more are lured into coming � even though the jobs we supposedly need them to fill have vanished.

None of this will be fixed by electing a new president in 2008.

No matter whom you vote for, the next president is going to be another illegal immigration accommodationist, an appeaser of law-breaking, a betrayer of the will of the people and the rule of law.

Voting for John McCain or Barack Obama won't make a difference.

There's only one way to save your country.

You've got to rise up and revolt.

Say, "I'm not going to take it any more � and mean it."

Our forefathers laid it all on the line � their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor.

What are you willing to risk to recapture the dream of American liberty, justice and morality?

I call booshat. Why wouldn't we care? We're not American enough back east to care what happens outside our area? I recall Tim McVeigh's blowing over the Murrah building in OK City very well, and remember that following that there was nothing but talk of concern, support and horror in what was done to our fellow Americans. Agreed that some New Yorkers and Bostonians alike have something of an elitist attitude and sense that the rest of the country is second to their existence, but there's some of that everywhere, is there not? I have no dog in this fight, but saw your post and thought I'd toss in my pair of coppers. Your buddy was either out of touch, or speaking for a small minority, I assure you.

That illegals are doing jobs that Americans won't do is one of the biggest lies that has ever been repeated. There is no such thing as "jobs that Americans won't do". That oft repeated lie is just a sorry excuse for certain employers to keep wages depressed. Illegals are not standing in line for minimum wage jobs , they are invading the trades and technical jobs.
The hourly workers at my place of employment have not had a cost of living increase since 1998. There is a large cheap labor pool of illegals here to keep wages depressed.It is hard for the average American to compete against people who go home in the evening to a place where they split the rent 10 different ways.
To anyone who would admonish me for my thoughts on this matter , get back to me after these people have invaded YOUR trade/profession.Don't think it can't happen to you.

Mike

Mike you're on track,....and here's some recent N.C. news to cheer you up, I hope

Link: http://www.thetimesnews.com/news/week_16386___article.html/fear_illegal.html

Raid rumors roil undocumented community
Comments 52 | Recommend 5
August 6, 2008 - 6:27PM
Keren Rivas / Times-News
Recent arrests in the county have heightened worries among undocumented immigrants in Alamance County about possible roundups.

Word of mouth, e-mails, text messages and flyers are being passed around among members of the community to warn those in the country illegally about massive roundups, or "redadas," along county roads and at factories that are supposedly being planned for today, Friday and Saturday.

Edith, a Mexican native who has lived in the United States illegally for the past 10 years, said Wednesday that she has heard that starting today, there will be traffic checkpoints. Besides regular police officers, she said, Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents will be waiting to arrest those who are found driving without a license or with an expired license.

Edith shared her views in her native Spanish and only gave her first name when interviewed.

Edith said she has been told that ICE agents will be going door to door in certain neighborhoods and entering Mexican grocery stores across the county looking for illegal residents to round up. She said rumors persist that on Friday, agents will hit local factories, which she said is causing many people to decide to stay home that day.

Though there are always rumors about possible roundups, she says the stories are worse this time around. Whether they are true or not, Edith said she is afraid of what would happen to her 4-month-old boy if she is arrested.

Damaris, 28, said she heard recently on a Spanish newscast that there will be raids in Charlotte as well this weekend. She said people are also saying that ICE agents are going to arrest people at their houses. Though she wouldn't like to be deported, Damaris, who is from Guatemala, said that is a risk of being in the country illegally.

"This is not my country," she said, adding that she came to America looking for work five years ago. She said she has no opinion about the recent events in the county. "This is their country," she said of federal authorities and other law enforcement. "They are doing what they consider to be right."

Rosalinda Guerrero, who works at Plaza Latina in Graham, said she has been hearing similar rumors from customers this week. A lot of people, she said, have told her that they aren't leaving their homes for fear of being arrested by federal authorities. She said others have told her that they plan to move away to avoid arrest.

Guerrero doesn't believe there is truth to the rumors. "If they are going to do it they are not going to let you know in advance," she said.

She said she even received a text message Tuesday night from a friend who was alerting people about a traffic stop on Interstate 85/40 near the 145 exit. She and her husband happened to be driving by that area when the text came and were able to verify that police were not there.

"People don't know what to believe," Guerrero said, adding that whoever is perpetuating the rumors is only making things worse.

Sergio Guzman, owner of Guzman's Market in Burlington, said business has decreased considerably because people worry about being stopped for driving with an expired license to then be processed for deportation.

Like other merchants in the area, Guzman is aware of the rumors but doubts their veracity. One story he's heard calls for entire factories to shut down their operations Friday since many of their employees are not going to be working that day

Further promotoion of the myth, from Mexican Royalty figure

Link: http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2008/08/aging-us-will-m.html

The last comment on this topic REALLY resonates, when one stops to think about it,....No?


� Yo no quiero talking Chihuahuas | Main | Let's get this budget party started �

Aging U.S. will miss Mexican Immigrants
The Mexican Consul General of Phoenix says that Mexican workers are leaving the U.S. in response to heightened immigration enforcement (stepped up raids and tough laws at the municipal level) but that in coming decades, the U.S. will be sorry it pushed out these young, able-bodied workers.

Speaking to the Thunderbird School of Global Management in Arizona, Carlos Flores Vizcarra said demographic estimates show that within 30 years, nearly 77 million Americans will retire: "So the question is, who will take the place of those folks who are retiring?" he asked. Mexico is also facing a shortage of labor in coming decades, Flores added, and the U.S. will not find it easy to lure these workers back.

While everyone knows that low wages in Mexico are partially responsible for the numbers of Mexicans leaving the country seeking work elsewhere, the population explosion south of the border also has been a factor, he said. During World War II, Mexico had 18 million citizens; today, 20 million foreign-born residents of Mexican descent live in the U.S. --that's more than the entire population of the country in the 1940s. And Mexico's population has quintupled, to about 107 million people.

"It's like a revolution that no country could have digested," Flores said. "What has been our safety valve? The U.S."

But Mexicans seeking a better climate for immigrants aren't just going back to Mexico, Vizcarra said. They're heading north to Canada.

"Canada is pressing on Mexico so that Mexico can provide more labor to Canda," he said. "From this moment, Mexico is looking to the Canadian horizon, maybe with more interest than to the U.S., basicaly because of the sluggish economy here in America, and also becuase Canada is discovering new economic frontiers in Manitoba and Alberta."

Posted by Lisa Richardson on August 8, 2008 in Economy , Immigration , Mexico | Permalink

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There are plenty of foreign workers waiting in line for a chance to come here to work legally. I don't believe we will have a shortage any time soon.
Legal immigrants are usually educated, vaccinated, insured, and can learn to speak English. They also get better paying jobs and pay more in taxes than illegal Mexican Nationals.

Posted by: Texan123 | August 08, 2008 at 01:54 PM

"It's like a revolution that no country could have digested," Flores said. "What has been our safety valve? The U.S."

So this Mexican official admits to what we have always known, the United States has been a safety valve to the Mexican nation. I feel so sorry for these displaced people, how disgusting their government is BUT we cannot throw the baby out with the bath water. If these Mexican national, here illegally, want to live in my country, then show a new allegiance and learn English and assimilate. You'll be my American brother!

Posted by: alexandros | August 08, 2008 at 01:58 PM

Almost half of all legal immigrants come from Mexico! I think America has done it's part to feed the Mexico poor, It's time for Mexico to step up for their own and quit crying about what is Mexico's own responsibility. If Mexicans leave and don't come back there are millions of poorer people who speak English all over the world to replace them.

Posted by: yeahman | August 08, 2008 at 02:31 PM

Typical Mexican false logic with threatening overtones blaming Americans. How can Mexico "be facing a labor shortage" when their population has quintupled to about 107 million people?

Their "safety valve" should be the development of their country and successful employment of their own people. That takes honesty and social committment to their Mexican citizens. Until that happens, they will remain an unequal third world country.

Posted by: cagran | August 08, 2008 at 02:52 PM

At first I thought this post was a joke or a parody. But these days you never know. I hope it was a joke.

Posted by: chris | August 08, 2008 at 05:20 PM

As Workers? What about as a fighting force. The Mexicans also make great warriors and peacemakers. Ask their fellow prison guards, their fellow officers, their fellow troops. I am beginning to think (being in AZ), that the Mexicans make the best Americans. Even when I lived in Baltimore, it was only the Mexicans who stood up to the Bloods, we hid our faces. They are proud people.


Posted by: NiceJewishBoy | August 08, 2008 at 06:23 PM

Mr. Vizcarra:
Mexico has done everything it can to create
al Mexican Nation within our borders through
illegal immigration! Legal immigrants are welcome
to become U.S. citizens and hold their loyalty
to the USA but we all know now that you think
you can game and abuse the 14th amendment,
collaborate with criminal employers and cry a
river of crocodile tears that we need your
uneducated workers so that Mexico( a failed country)
can have a safety valve. The real heroes are the
mestizos marching in Chiapas not the illegals
waving Mexican flags in L.A., Chicago and Phoenix!

Posted by: OneifbyLand | August 08, 2008 at 07:23 PM

And that is exactly why we need to separate those who wish to become Americans, and those who come for a paycheck and benefits.

Concise and applicable updates,.....these folks do nice articulate corespondence,

Hats off to them,

Jeez, Culiacan's sure no picnic these days,.....

Link: http://m3report.wordpress.com/2008/...ves-stiffening-penalties-for-kidnappers/

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� Mexico�s insecurity costing the country upwards of $120 billion a year, equating to 15% of Gross Domestic ProductPresident Calderon asks Mexican Congress to approve initiatives stiffening penalties for kidnappers
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� Mexico�s insecurity costing the country upwards of $120 billion a year, equating to 15% of Gross Domestic ProductPresident Calderon asks Mexican Congress to approve initiatives stiffening penalties for kidnappers
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El Diario de Yucatan (Merida, Yucatan) , El Porvenir (Monterrey, Nuevo Leon) 8/8/08

- In an open letter to �public opinion� the president of the Mexican Assoc. of Professional Real Estate Agents asked that bad law enforcement agents who are �pernicious and noxious� be punished with severity. He backed a recently proposed plan by the Distrito Federal�s Public Security Department to create a nationwide database that would show relevant information on all police officers fired for cause so as to prevent their being re-hired by another police department elsewhere in Mexico.
- In a message to the nation from Veracruz, Pres. Calderon voiced the urgent need to stop the impunity which allows organized crime to operate and asked Congress to approve several initiatives including stiffening penalties for kidnappers and providing for life sentences. He said that the recent kidnapping and murder of Fernando Marti, in which police officers appear to have participated �manifests the urgency of bringing to a halt the impunity with which the criminal organizations operate.� He reiterated his commitment to keep working to restore the country�s tranquility, though he acknowledged that it will take some time because insecurity �is a cancer that has taken root, but together we�ll overcome adversity and we will overcome crime.�
Thousands of persons daily suffer crimes which go unpunished and society demands that the authorities �do the work which we haven�t yet done� �There is no bigger grievance for society than an unpunished crime and it�s even more indignant when the kidnappers are police or are protected by police.�


Milenio (Mexico City) 8/8/08

(The first two paragraphs of an op/column by Roman Revuelas titled �To live in hell� follow):
We Mexicans try to live in a country like all the others, but every once in a while we are obligated to open our eyes to face the disquieting reality of horror. There cannot possibly be a safe haven for anyone when a 14 year old boy is kidnapped by a mob of policemen and then assassinated.
What world do we live in? In a bloody and threatening jungle. Normality does not exist. It is unable to exist. The certainty which can be obtained from everyday activities is quite meager: when you leave home you don�t know if you are going to return; if you start a road trip you don�t know if you�ll reach your destination safely; just running a business means that you are on a blacklist, and the worst is that nobody escapes, neither the women or the children.
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(Note: while the U.S. media yesterday publicized the death of 9 illegal aliens and the injury to some ten others from a vehicle accident near Florence, AZ , nothing was known of the following two nearly parallel events):

- �At least 26 Mexican �migrants�, four of them women, were detained by municipal police in the vicinity of El Centinela Hill when a people trafficker was attempting to cross them to the United States border.�
�The presumed �pollero�, identified as Alejandro Quintero Gonzalez, was driving a van through a desert area by the above mentioned hill almost at the point of pump # 0 of the Rio Colorado-Tijuana aqueduct, in the Calexico, California, border area. The migrants, from Puebla, Michoacan and Jalisco, were thus rescued from the temperatures above 45 degrees,� (From �El Porvenir�, Monterrey, N.L., 9/7/0
- In Chiapas, state police attempted to stop a speeding p/u truck. Instead, it speeded up but was eventually stopped: two Guatemalan smugglers were transporting twelve other Guatemalans, all illegally in Mexico. The two �revealed� that they were taking their fellow countrymen to Jiquipilas, where two other �polleros� would continue the trip to the north of the country. (From �Cuarto Poder�, Tuxtla, Chiapas, 8/8/0
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El Diario de Coahuila (Saltillo, Coah.) 8/8/08

The freight train pulled into the yard at the Chicalote station at San Francisco de los Romo, state of Aguascalientes, and then federal agents found 19 Hondurans, 2 Guatemalans and 2 Salvadorans, all heading to the United States. They were held �at the disposal of the INM� (Mex. Immigr.) to be repatriated to their countries of origin. Leonel, a 20 year old Honduran, said that neither he nor his companions would cease in �their search to enter the United States.�
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Cambio de Michoacan (Morelia, Mich.) , El Diario (Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua) 8/8/08

In ( or by - reports differ - ) a sewage water canal along the Vista Hermosa to Zamora highway, in Michoacan: the four nude bodies of men in their twenties. All tied, with visible signs of torture and with ropes around their necks. All have been preliminarily identified as federal �Preventive Police� agents. Tag boards left with the cadavers read: �This is to have you keep keep sending more airplanes.� Federal troops arrived in the area recently as part of Joint Operation Michoacan.
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El Universal (Mexico City) 8/8/08

- Six men were arrested and a small arsenal was seized by federal agents in Nogales Sonora. The haul : 7 AK47 rifles, a shotgun, 3 revolvers, a 45mm pistol, 32 clips & 1,347 rounds, plus a couple of money counting machines and small amounts of weed.
- A taxi driver�s homicide raised to five the number of victims in Michoacan. To these are added eight victims in Chihuahua, four in Sinaloa, two in Durango and one each in Guanajuato, Mexico & Tabasco. Eight of the total were identified as police officers.
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Noroeste (Culiacan, Sinaloa) 8/8/08

The adult son of the founder and head of this newspaper was found dead in the trunk of his own car in Culiacan. His head was in a plastic bag, his hands and feet were tied and his body had blows and cuts.
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El Heraldo (Tegucigalpa, Honduras) 8/8/08

1,178 kilos of cocaine were seized in a joint operation by Honduran Navy & anti-drug personnel and the U.S. Coast Guard last Wednesday in the area off Honduras� Mosquito Coast.
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Prensa Libre (Guatemala City, Guatemala) 8/8/08

Traveling in four taxis coming from Zanatepec, in the state of Oaxaca: fifteen Guatemalans & two Salvadorans, all illegally in Mexico. Federal police turned them over to the �INM�.
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Hey Enrique,

Not saying anything derogatory here, but that's about the dumbest statement I've ever heard on this forum.

You speak like you're an authority on the subject.

What's your basis for claiming "you still need someone to do the jobs lazy Americans won't do"?

What data do you have to support this allegation?

And what the hell does the following statement mean?

"We need immigrants, preferably legal, but we all no breaking the law is funner, so I guess the illegals will do."

Huh?

By the way, are you legal?

CHIT !,......

.....don't you just hate it when the 12 year old does this?

Emulating the adults he's surrounded by,.....

Link: http://news.ktar.com/?nid=6&sid=928473

Man wanted on warrants charged in QC school gun case
August 8th, 2008 @ 5:40pm
by KTAR Newsroom

The man whose gun ended up in the hands of the 12-year-old Queen Creek boy accused of taking it to school is now himself in trouble with the law.

The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office says deputies arrested Fernando Martinez-Cura for the unlawful possession of a firearm.

MCSO says that gun ended up in the hands of his girlfriend's grandson who took it to school.

School officials saw the boy handling the gun in front of other kids.

Martinez-Cura, an illegal immigrant, was booked on the felony weapons charge and two outstanding warrants.

UHhhhhhh,......OOPS?

Jeez, that Mike Chertof is just HOT,.....SO effective,...with High tech solutions " virtual " fences,....special visas,.....

I just feel SO,.....secure with him at the helm,

musta' been like that on the Titanic, .....what?


GAG,.......Retch,.....

Link: http://www.commonvoice.com/article.asp?colid=8695

Invasion USA: High-Tech Security Visas Sold on Mexican Black Market
Jim Kouri
August 8, 2008


United States immigration and State Department officials fear that their newly developed, high-tech visas are being sold on the Mexican black market.

The US government hoped the newly designed visas would help in curtailing rampant illegal immigration at the Mexican border, but investigators believe many of them are being bought or rented by Mexicans seeking illegal entry into the US.

Well over 11,000 of these Laser Visas, issued to Mexicans for legitimate travel into the United States were reported stolen or "lost" in just two border cities. Government officials claim this is a 15 percent jump from previous figures.

The ATM card-sized documents, which include the legal holder's photograph and scanned fingerprints, were actually developed for use in 1998 hopefully to increase security and standardize documents used by Mexicans to cross the border since so many different types of documentation made the screening process cumbersome and confusing.

"While many may have been legitimately 'lost,' it seems probable that quite a few are either 'stolen' or 'reported stolen' in order to sell them," a U.S. consular official, who declined to be named, told Reuters.

"There appears to be a healthy market for both buying and renting laser visas on the border," she added.

Mexicans call these visa cards "Micas," which allow bearers to cross into the US without other supporting documents. The card also allows them to travel up to 25 miles inside California or Texas and they may remain in the US up to 30 days.

According to figures provided by Reuters, 8,745 of the border crossing cards went astray last year in Ciudad Juarez, south of El Paso, Texas, and 3,095 in Tijuana, opposite San Diego, California. No figures were available for other cities along the 2,000-mile border.

The problem got so bad that the US Embassy in Mexico City revamped its visa policy late last year, but did not inform anyone of the mounting problem. The embassy now replaces "lost" or stolen cards with stickers placed inside passports hope this will curb the illegal market of the laser cards.

The paradox is that in an effort to beef up security at the Mexican border using state-of-the-art technology, the US may have made it even easier to compromise that very security.

Also, the US is getting zero help from the Fox government in Mexico City during the course of investigations. While not speaking "on the record," off the record some US law enforcement people believe elements within the Mexican federal and local governments are assisting in the diversion of legitimate visas.

While US authorities say they possess no concrete evidence that organized Mexican human trafficking rings overseeing the illicit trade are using these cards, many security experts believe there are several organizations trafficking in this document.

But Tijuana police claim most of the stray visas are sold by cash-strapped holders to human traffickers in the gritty industrial city of 2 million people, on a widely used route for Mexican illegal immigrants headed for the Californian border.

Recently, seven illegal aliens from Mexico were arrested for allegedly operating a fraudulent document ring in Chicago's "Little Village" area. The organized crime enterprise generated approximately $2.5 million a year.

Found inside the residence was equipment used for making fake government documents, including: five high-speed computers, printers, ID card printers, scanners, laminating pouches, foil strips with security features, dozens of counterfeit identification cards, and other document-making paraphernalia. The estimated value of the seized items is approximately $10,000; the street value of the software is believed to be about $100,000.

Law enforcement commanders throughout the US believe that there are similar operations being conducted by Mexican organized crime cells. The Castorena crime family, a Mexican organized crime family that has controlled the majority of the fraudulent document manufacturing and sales trade in the US over the past 10 years, is believed to be trafficking in these new high-tech visas. Some even believe they are attempting to duplicate these cards.

Jim Kouri, CPP is currently fifth vice-president of the National Association of Chiefs of Police and he's a staff writer for the New Media Alliance (thenma.org). Kouri also serves as political advisor for Emmy and Golden Globe winning actor Michael Moriarty.

everybody wants to get this whole debacle solved in the best way possible. we all feel sorry for folks in the overpopulated parts of the world. and poor folks coming here for relief is natural on their part.

but, if that idea was applied worldwide, we'd be completely overrun with refugees, and that is what they are. can you imagine everyone pouring into the US for relief? how sustainable would that be? we're already near or at carrying capacity.

i "wish" the folks in other countries would hold their gov'ts accountable for their economy and living conditions. instead, they pack their bags and culture and bring both to the US. never intending to assimilate, they remain a part of their old culture, but at the expense of US taxpayers.

while i support the Iraq and Afghanistan adventures, we ought to have sufficient firepower on the southern borderline to remove any and all threats to our citizenry from illegals.

maybe deporting all without visas is the way to go, what with the economy affecting everyone's finances, like it is.

folks from other parts of the world might be in a bind, but they need to "shakeup" their own country's gov't, imho, instead of coming here and parasitizing what is left of our economy.

I agree with you completely and will add to it.The illegals are working for so little that they steal to keep going.Now before anyone jumps on me for that statement understand that I work for a general contractor.We have a lot of tools and equipment on the jobsites.We watch things closely and catch a good bit of it.We have been dealing with it for years(20+).It is a steady on going battle.I dont want to fight about it just understand that it is a daily problem.It does not seem to matter which sub contractor they work for.The common element is that close to 75% of the stealing is done by Illegals,well75% of the ones that get caught are Illegals.They are very bold,I have watched form a distance and seen them take tools from the back of one pick up and carry it to another with the owner not 30 feet away.Like I said we have to watch very closely.

I gotta respond to this,........

Once,and only once, in 23 1/2 years of operating in the Great N.W., " North of the Medicine Line" did I have anything ripped off of my welding rig deck. That was a brilliantly new hank of 1/2" Poly rope,.......literally hanging off the side of the rig,....Parked on Banff Ave. ( Alta. Canada).....not your normal jobsite.

Moved to Az,....and worked 14 jobs ( employee) and I dunno how many small contracts first year here...........lost a LOT of tooling before I smartened up.........

Sunsabiotches'll steal anything not ACTIVELY protected,......

.....but than , hey, after all "We" stole Aztlan,.......right?

I don't realy like to have to "Fight" over my property, acquired fair and square like,.....with [bleep] minds, either

Pizz on how they do it at home.

GTC

Let me give one example(I have many).The job site is filled with subcontractors.The job is finishing up and we have one of the company guys putting down the tire bumps in the parking lot.We use a large Hilti hammer drill to put holes in the concrete and drive re-bar through the bumps to hold them.The drill stops working so time to see if it got unpluged(happens all the time).He plugs the cord back in and returns to what he was doing except when he gets back the drill is gone.A minute later he is approached be an electrician who was putting neon lights on the building and saw one of the concrete workers take the drill and put it in his car.The fight was on,the illegal did not want to give it back and ranted like a maniac for 15 minutes.This is very common now a days.This is just one example,I have hundreds.

San FranFreako in doo-doo ( ughhhhh, don't they sorta' go for that kinda' thing out there? )

Link: http://www.kcbs.com/Sanctuary-City-a-Federal-Matter/2756049

Sanctuary City a Federal Matter


SAN FRANCISCO (KCBS) - Federal investigators are looking into San Francisco's sanctuary policy which sent illegal juvenile offenders back home, or in some cases to Southern California group homes, backed by city funds.
�Very close to it,� says United States Attorney for Northern California Joseph Russoniello when asked if San Francisco is harboring fugitives.

Russoniello's office is looking into whether laws were broken. He says criminal charges are a possibility.

�I wouldn�t want to say at this point who that might be, but there certainly is a statute which is very clear, Title 8, that identifies the different offenses with the harboring context that could be brought,� claims Russoniello.

The city has revised its policy and is now notifying federal authorities when a juvenile is in the country illegally and taken into custody in San Francisco.

Russoniello notes the sanctuary policy has been on record for decades, but the wording has changed over time making it hard to figure out who is responsible.

Public interest in the policy began after documents surfaced that alledged triple homocide assailant, 21-year-old Edwin Ramos, had been previously shielded from prosecution due to protection from San Francisco's sanctuary city policy.

This'll be fun to watch,and brings to mind the situation in N.C. where text messages were propogating all sortsa' rumors about check stop and " Roiling" the local illlegal community.

I say,............LETS ROIL

......go Sherrif Joe!

Link: http://www.kpho.com/news/17145450/detail.html

Arpaio To Launch New Crime Sweep On Wednesday

POSTED: 4:18 pm MST August 9, 2008
UPDATED: 6:58 am MST August 10, 2008


PHOENIX -- Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio said his next crime suppression sweep on Wednesday will be a lot different from all the others.

But he stopped short on Saturday explaining how the latest crackdown will vary from the others. And he didn't announce which community he will target.

"I don't want to publicize it now and get all the politicians involved with all of their friends who are demonstrators," Arpaio said. "They always make it a political thing."

During past crime sweeps, sheriff's deputies typically canvass a chosen area, pulling over any driver breaking the law, even minor infractions. Those who are in the United States illegally are immediately arrested.

A vocal opponent of the tactic is Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon.

"I believe the public would rather have officers going after felons than somebody pushing a cart across the street and didn't stop at the crosswalk," Gordon said.

Gordon said he a finds it bizarre that the sheriff announces his plans in advance.

"A crime suppression raid where you're targeting individuals by announcing you're coming. I don't understand the logic of that," Gordon said.

Arpaio said he publicizes his raids to encourage voluntary compliance.

"Maybe they will leave town, go back to the country they came from, and get out of town because they know the sheriff is coming," Arpaio said. "And that's great. If they leave, isn't that great? "So I want people to know we're doing this."

Since the crime sweeps began, about half of those arrested have been illegal immigrants, according to the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office.

New numbers from MCSO shows crime in Maricopa County has dropped 10 percent over the past year.

Arpaio said the numbers only pertain to those areas in the county that are unincorporated -- those communities that have no local police department and that are policed by the county.

The sheriff reports that violent crimes, including murder, rape, aggravated assault and armed robbery have declined by 10 percent when compared with the same time frame in 2007.

Arpaio said his deputies have cleared almost 8,000 warrants this year, most of which are felonies.

The sheriff credits his planned crime sweeps as one of the reasons the crime rate has declined. Since the sweeps began, the sheriff has arrested 270 people, half of which are illegal immigrants.

Gordon said he's reluctant to believe Arpaio's numbers.

"I don't think anybody should draw a conclusion on a verbal press release without the actual statistic," Gordon said.

Arpaio shot back. "When you look at the jail I run, 10,000 inmates, 2,000 out of the 10 are illegals, that's 20 percent in my jail," he said. "I have proof."

An illegal would have to be crazy to live and work in this guys jurisdiction.

Phil Gordon is really out of his league matching wits ( trying to anyhoo) with Joe,........and he's gotten to where he scrupulously avoids one on one debate or open forum dialogue with Arpaio.

Gordon's earily similar to that Newsome creep out in san fran sicko.......No?

Kissy huggy feely snugl'ums for the poor cwiminals and the downtrodden,......

It's just nuts,, I tell 'ya.

GTC

Oh, .....speaking of Mayors,......here's a Candidate for L.A. race,.........sorely needed IMHO,

this is FUNNY ( in a sick way,.....?)

Link: http://www.americanpatrol.com/MISCNEWS/2006-UP/MOORE-WALTER/080810-GameShow.html

GTC

My Oh My,......this is a real "Firebrand" kind of approach,....from a recent new site,.....Phew, ....I need a cold one after readin' this.

Good on Indianna ,......they're fed up too.

Link: http://www.borderfirereport.net/oliver-w.-hagley/there-will-be-blood.html

There Will Be Blood
Oliver Hagley
August 10, 2008 - Please understand that I do not advocate violence or shedding of blood n the United States, nor do I wish for that sort of disaster to strike our republic. Our history is that of a nation which operates in the accordance with the rule of law; we have always settled our domestic differences through the ballot box, rather than with bullets.

For 232 years that approach has worked fairly well. I hope that it works for another 232 years.

However, in recent years, elected officials have decided that once they have secured power, the need to listen to the will of the people is no longer urgent. This arrogant, nonchalant disregard for American citizens is hardly more obvious than when it comes to the issue of illegal aliens.
Because elected officials from both major parties have refused to enforce US borders and immigration laws, perhaps as many as 40 million illiterate, non-English speaking peasants have invaded our land.

This invasion wreaks havoc on homeland security, the economy, education, and American language and culture.

The American people have repeatedly informed our leaders that we want an immediate end to and reversal of illegal immigration. We want the federal government to secure the borders and deport the illegal aliens from our midst, as soon as possible.

Despite the wishes of we the people, both presidential candidates from the major parties favor amnesty for invading criminals.

Amnesty would be a slap in the face to hundreds of millions of Americans citizens, and to the millions of foreigners who wait their turn in line for a chance at the American Dream.

Amnesty says to the world that rule of law means nothing in America.

Amnesty says to the world that there is no longer a sovereign state known as the United States.

Amnesty would be the final step in destroying American language and culture and sending this once great nation down the path to third-world misery.

Amnesty tells American voters to go to hell while welcoming illegal invaders warmly.

With both major parties siding with illegal aliens and against American citizens, amnesty seems increasingly likely to become reality in early 2009.

That will be a genuine tragedy, because millions of patriotic Americans simply will not lie down and die while America is methodically destroyed by politicians looking for cheap labor or cheap votes.

America fought a great and tragic civil war to end slavery. The nation appears to be on the verge of another civil war, this time to free the American people from the bondage of illegal aliens.

When amnesty becomes law, it is almost certain that there will be blood.

Sad, but true.

Oliver W. Hagley is a former nuclear material accountancy expert who lives in Elizabeth, Indiana.
Oliver W. Hagley Archives

CHIT !

Link: http://www.americanpatrol.com/ABP/PHOTO-OF-THE-DAY/2008/ARCHIVE/080810.html

Is it cuz' Maryland's so close to D.C. ?

this is nuts,......

Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid
U.S. Enemy Joins Forces with Globalists, Local Government

American Patrol Report -- Tucson -- August 11
"By Chavez's hand, Venezuela has become a treacherous haven for terrorist groups to plot destruction against the West and her allies." (Human Events 9/27/07)

Casa de Maryland, an open-borders anti-American organization, that is funded in part by the Ford Foundation the same people who brought us MALDEF and the National Council of la Raza, and supported by Montgomery County Maryland, has now received the financial backing of Citgo, an arm of Hugo Chavez, president of Venezuela (see Hugo Chavez, Enemy in America�s Backyard).
Casa de Maryland is a strong advocate of amnesty for illegal aliens and fights attempts to enforce immigration laws.
"The Ford Foundation and a Maryland county now find themselves in collusion with an enemy of the United States," said Glenn Spencer of the American Patrol Report. "This should not be surprising since the Ford Foundation has been doing that for more than thirty years, but for local elected officials to be part of this crowd is very disturbing. " Spencer said the American people "should be afraid, be very afraid."

I'm hoping Gordon gets recalled.

We need BCB on this case,....pronto, ....in Toronto, ...like.

""We have to feel safe in Montreal."


WTF, over?

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i4ffFONRmWjkHndkWW8dMZR7YC9gD92G9DJ80

Fatal shooting by police sparks Montreal riot
By JANIE GOSSELIN � 9 hours ago

MONTREAL (AP) � Montreal's mayor on Monday promised a swift inquiry into the shooting death of a Honduran teenager by police after the incident prompted violent clashes between angry youth and authorities in a heavily Haitian neighborhood.

A police officer was shot in the leg late Sunday, cars were set ablaze, stores were looted and firefighters were pelted with beer bottles in Montreal North, a multiethnic area referred to by local police as the Bronx of Montreal for its poverty and crime.

Several hundred officers in riot gear fanned out in the area, searching for a group of youths suspected of torching eight cars parked outside a fire station. Six people were arrested.

The violence erupted after a peaceful protest against the Saturday shooting by police of three unarmed people, including an 18-year-old man, identified by his sister as Freddy Alberto Villanueva, an immigrant from Honduras who died of his wounds.

Jean-Ernest Pierre, a lawyer and owner of a Montreal radio station popular with the city's ethnic minorities, said his station was beset with angry calls from people concerned about police treatment of minorities.

Some policemen are not well equipped to face what Pierre called the new Quebec, a multiethnic society, he said, adding that many minorities feel targeted because of the color of their skin.

"People don't trust the police," Pierre said.

He also said there's a gang problem in Montreal North, where poverty makes many young people vulnerable to recruitment.

About 25 percent of the residents of Montreal North are immigrants. Almost 15 percent are black and 3.5 percent are Latino, according to census data.

On Sunday, men and women of all ages crawled through the smashed windows of a pawn shop, a convenience store and a butcher shop, grabbing anything they could. They could be seen running down the street clutching TVs, cigarette cartons and slabs of meat.

Montreal police spokesman Ian Lafreniere said one police officer was hospitalized after being shot in the leg.

An ambulance technician was hit in the head by a bottle and a second police officer suffered minor injuries, he said. Both were released from hospital after treatment.

Three people were arrested for breaking and entering, one for drug possession and two others for charges still to be determined, he said.

Mayor Gerald Tremblay said he'll meet with community leaders to ensure another riot doesn't happen. "One thing is for sure � we have to do better than what we've been doing," he said.

Tremblay promised a speedy investigation and said they must be up front about what prompted police to open fire on Villanueva and two others on Saturday.

City police have said the officers were trying to make an arrest in Henri Bourassa Park around 7 p.m. when they were surrounded by about 20 youths.

A few individuals allegedly broke away from the group and rushed the officers.

According to police, one officer then opened fire.

The officers were not wounded.

Quebec provincial police have taken over the investigation into the shootings.

Villanueva's sister, Julissa, said the family wants answers.

"We only know what we see in the news, in the newspapers, that's all," she said, weeping as she spoke about her brother, a student who wanted to become a mechanic. Villanueva's family came to Canada from Honduras in 1998.

Community leaders said many youngsters feel disenfranchised and are frustrated by what they see as heavy-handed police tactics.

"What we are seeing are youngsters, a community that is in revolt because they don't like they way they are being treated," said Pierreson Vaval, who leads a youth group.

"They don't like how authorities interact with them."

The melee Sunday night was the second large-scale riot in Montreal in four months.

In April, a downtown celebration after the Montreal Canadiens defeated the Boston Bruins in a National Hockey League playoff game turned violent when people began torching police cars and looting stores. Police arrested 56 people.

Police Chief Yvan Delorme said he's prepared to do whatever it takes to mend ties with the community.

"We're there to listen, to understand what happened (Sunday) night and to avoid these kinds of situations," Delorme said. "We have to feel safe in Montreal."

I'm not at all sure that interupting / interdicting "The Flow of Guns" into Mexico is do-able,.....

and am having horrible deja-vu about back when HBarry McCaffery gave all of our DEA operations to a corrupt Mexican counterpart,.....and it just wrecked a lot of hard work and got many people hurt.

"give Mexican law enforcement officials greater access to the eTrace computer database in the U.S.,......................."

...........I'm not at ALL sure how to feel about that gem,.....
But my gut says bad idea.


Link: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon.../stories/081208dntexborder.3990c2b5.html

Officials at border security conference call for more U.S.-Mexico cooperation

07:57 AM CDT on Tuesday, August 12, 2008
By DAVID McLEMORE / The Dallas Morning News
[email protected]

EL PASO � Top U.S. law enforcement officials praised Mexico�s anti-drug efforts Monday and urged more binational cooperation as an antidote to the drug-fueled violence along the border.

FBI Director Robert Mueller, addressing the fifth annual border security conference at the University of Texas at El Paso, stressed that crime doesn�t recognize borders. The FBI is concerned with the high level of violence along the border and the drug and human smuggling and gang activity that generates it, he said.

Of particular concern is the violence just across the border in Ciudad Ju�rez, where 700 people have been killed in drug violence this year, Mr. Mueller said. He praised Mexican President Felipe Calder�n for his strong response.

�We have two cartels fighting for control. President Calder�n has taken the fight to them, but serious challenges still exist to border security that must be met with a joint effort,� Mr. Mueller said.

Jos� Riojas, UTEP vice president of strategic initiatives, also said the problem demands a shared response.

�We have to develop a strategy that is best for public safety no matter what side of the border people live on,� he said. �We believe that is best arrived at through a binational effort that provides for both border security while protecting commerce. But Mexico has to part of that conversation.�

Today at the conference, Mr. Riojas will be formally named executive director of the university�s new National Center for Border Security and Immigration.

Manuel Su�rez-Mier, legal attache for the Mexican attorney general, said Mexico has paid a high price for its success against drug cartels.

�We are destroying the crime organizations� structure, and that has spurred more violence � as the drug organizations spread out to kidnapping and extortion to make money,� he said. �What we need is the full commitment of the United States, particularly in helping integrate technology we don�t have access to. �

�We are seeing the benefits of greater cooperation between the United States and Mexico, but the price has been high for us,� Mr. Su�rez-Mier said. �More than 2,500 people have been killed in the drug wars, and people want immediate results.�

Michael Sullivan, director of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, praised Mexico�s efforts.

�We have asked Mexico to assist in stopping the flow of drugs across our borders, and they have done so extraordinarily well � and at great cost to civilians and law enforcement officers targeted for execution and assassinations by the drug cartels,� Mr. Sullivan said. �What Mexico asks us to do is something similar, to halt the flow of guns into Mexico.�

ATF data shows that 90 to 95 percent of the guns used to drug violence in Mexico enter illegally from the United States, adding significantly to the rising tide of violence.

U.S. and Mexican law enforcement agencies recently unveiled a joint effort, called Armas Cruzadas (Crossed Arms) to disrupt cross-border weapons smuggling through the sharing of databases and better monitoring of illicit sales at gun shops and gun shows.

The new measures will also give Mexican law enforcement officials greater access to the eTrace computer database in the U.S., allowing them to use the serial numbers to trace weapons used in Mexican crimes to U.S. gun dealers.

Mr. Mueller noted that the FBI is engaged in 146 separate task force investigations, 12 of them in Texas, aimed at drug smuggling groups and gang activity.

And the agency is engaged with Mexican police in a binational anti-kidnapping task force. Asked how U.S. agents know they can trust Mexican law enforcement officers, Mr. Mueller stressed that drug corruption does not just affect Mexico.

�Mexico struggles to build up its rule of law. President Calder�n has led the way in this attack on public corruption,� he said. �We carefully vet the agencies we share information with. We work only with those we can trust.�

The border conference continues Tuesday with an address by Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Ralph Basham and a panel discussion on balancing the needs of security and trade at the border.

I dunno about a recall on Gavin Newsome,......I think he should be charged with something pretty doggone serious,.....what the hell has been going on out there, anyway?


From Judicial Watch,.....

Link: http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/judicial-watch-uncovers-triple-murder-suspect/story.aspx?guid=%7B01AD6499-29EA-40A5-B7FF-734EC8A3E05A%7D&dist=hppr

Judicial Watch Uncovers Triple-Murder Suspect Edwin Ramos's San Francisco Police Records Revealing "MS-13" Criminal Street Gang Activity
Illegal Alien Ramos Indicted for Slaying Bologna Family Father & 2 Sons

Last update: 4:40 a.m. EDT Aug. 12, 2008
WASHINGTON, DC, Aug 12, 2008 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- Judicial Watch, the public interest organization that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that it has obtained San Francisco Police Department (SFPD) records concerning the arrest of illegal alien murder suspect Edwin Ramos. Ramos is currently charged with the June 22, 2008, triple murder of Tony Bologna and his sons Michael and Matthew in San Francisco's Excelsior District.
The SFPD records, obtained by Judicial Watch pursuant to the provisions of the California Public Records Act, identify Ramos, "based on... numerous documented contacts" as being an active member of the MS-13 street gang. The records, which document that he is not a U.S. citizen, also show Ramos's previous March 30, 2008, arrest related to weapons and gang charges. San Francisco prosecutors declined to charge Ramos. He was released on April 2, 2008.
Because the Bologna family slayings (SFPD Incident Report No.: 080652433) is still considered an open investigation, Ramos's records related to that crime were not produced to Judicial Watch. Likewise, Ramos's juvenile criminal record remains sealed, although reports in the San Francisco Chronicle revealed that Ramos is an illegal alien who was found to have committed two (2) felonies at the age of 17 -- a gang-related assault and an attempted robbery of a pregnant woman.
Despite his violent criminal behavior Ramos, a Salvadoran native, was not turned over by San Francisco juvenile justice officials to federal immigration authorities. San Francisco law prohibits local officials from cooperating with federal officials in deporting illegal aliens.
"San Francisco's 'don't ask, don't tell' sanctuary policies protect illegal alien gang bangers and put American citizens at risk," said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. "Sanctuary policies for illegal aliens must end. It is a matter of life and death."
In addition to its investigation of the Ramos incident, Judicial Watch has an ongoing taxpayer lawsuit against San Francisco related to its status as an illegal alien sanctuary city (Fonseca v. Fong, Case No. A120206). The lawsuit is currently on appeal. Judicial Watch also recently launched a brand new Internet site dedicated to fighting illegal alien sanctuary policies across the United States, www.sanctuarybusters.org.
Copies of the SFPD records obtained by Judicial Watch can be found on Judicial Watch's Internet site, www.judicialwatch.org.
Contact:
Jill Farrell
Judicial Watch
202-646-5188

Just thought I'd jump on the bandwagon.

I live close to the Border in one of the fastest-growing areas of the US. Flat amazing to walk into a convenience store around here in the morning and note the contrast.

On the one hand you have us soft-handed, effete Americans (White, Black AND Brown around this neck of the woods), most of us overweight, hopping out of our SUV's...

And then you have the sunburned, skinny, calloused crews all speaking Spanish piling out of construction vehicles and old pickup trucks....

Just got done with a 12,000 mile summer of road trips, everywhere from Arizona to New York to New Mexico to South Carolina. Seen Mexican laborers EVERYWHERE.

A common sentiment among illegals and the grown children of same around here is "we BUILT this country". Now most folks here are old enough and have been around enough to have the perspective to know that ain't true, but based just upon recent evidence it becomes hard to argue.

Despite the scum minority in their midst, most of these folks is good people, as anyone who has worked around them will attest.

Jobs Americans wont do? Heck my father worked construction his WHOLE LIFE, I got kin up Northeast STILL making a living that way. 'Spect it would be hard to in Texas though, given the cheap illegal labor pool here.

Fact is though, until we start going after the AMERICANS who hire illegals, and going after 'em hard, we're all just peeing in the wind here.

Birdwatcher

With the liberal appeasment mentality that seems to be so popular now. I guess US history since 1849 can be forgotten. Since Mexico seems to think that the US from the Red River and the Gila River south, still belongs to Mexico, along with California. I guess things like the War with Mexico, and the Gasden purchase can just be forgotten about. Heck the can have Cali back LA and San Fransisco any how. But I am sort of attached to most of the southwest like Az and Texas and New Mexico. But the propaganda is that the US stole all of northern Mexico. I am waiting for tha suit Mexico tries to bring in the World court attesting to that. FWIW the Gadsden Purchase in the 1880's bought the land south of the Gila River to the presant border. Legend has it that the survey group ran out of booze after leaving Nogales and cut north to Yuma that is why the southern border of AZ has that jog to it. And I would think every one knows about the war of Texas Independance, and how the Republic of Texas became a State a few years later, or the US war with Mexico in 1848-49, where the US forces captured Mexican soil clear up to Mexico City. The US Marines Corps mentions it the line " From the Halls of Montezuma"
Every time Mexican troops invade US soil it is a violation of international law, in times past it would have been considered an act of war. Hell it still is in most of the world.

This fellow's an interesting read,.....I've never been bored with his work,.....it can be different and DEEP, sometimes.

Link: http://www.vdare.com/collins/080811_culture.htm

It's The Culture, Stupid!!!
By Donald A. Collins

My wife and I just spent a marvelous week cruising on the Adriatic with ports of call all along Croatia. Our motor yacht, Le Monet, a jaunty Croatian-registered ship, picked us up in Venice and took us to many of the main points of interest along that lovely, island-studded coastline, including Pulu, Split, Hvar, Zadir, and Dubrovnik

No, relax, this is not a travelogue piece. Constantly, we passengers, about 50 grads of Oberlin, William and Mary, Case Western and a few interlopers from other universities, heard stories from our Croatian guides and crew members about the 1991-2 Yugoslav Civil War. We were horrified and yet fascinated. These handsome, tall, well-educated Croatians admitted that they look just like Serbs. You can't tell one from another, said one guide in Zadir�who had returned from school in Arkansas just in time to watch the bombs fall in her neighborhood, killing neighbors and friends. Some of the evacuated Serbian population had lived before the war for years in peace next door to her family's home.

I asked one guide in Dubrovnik why that historic walled city�not the new one that surrounds it�was badly shelled during the war. Her response: "Because if the Serbs couldn't have it, they didn't want us to have it."

Then she amplified: "You see the thinking is often like this. If you could make your neighbor blind, you would be willing to have one of your own eyes put out."

To paraphrase an earlier US presidential campaign phrase, "It's the culture, stupid."

Look at the same effect in Ireland. I�ve been to Ireland, both North and South, many times. I certainly can't tell an Ulster Protestant from an Irish Catholic. But even now, as the violence diminished, the place still has its upsets.

A more recent example of the power of culture to divide and destroy: a New York Times article by Michael Kimmelman, With Flemish Nationalism on the Rise, Belgium Teeters on the Edge (August 4th):

"The other morning Damien Thi�ry was in the meeting room of the town hall here, where every month or so, at public council sessions, Flemish nationalists harass him.

�The population of this bedroom community outside Brussels is 84 percent French-speaking. More than a year ago it picked Mr. Thi�ry, a Linkebeek native, as mayor. But Linkebeek is within the Flemish north, and the region's Flemish government has so far declined to ratify his election.

�Mr. Thi�ry is not Flemish."

So what? Well, Kimmelman continues:

"The German newspaper Die Tageszeitung a few days ago called Belgium the �most successful �failed state� of all time.� The Belgian Prime Minister Yves Leterme offered to resign last month, saying that the �federal consensus model has reached its limits,� and that he couldn't bring harmony to the country's Flemish and French-speaking regions, raising the specter that this nation of 10.4 million might split up for good."

If this doesn't speak to the situation developing in California and other Southwestern states, I don't know what does. The mayor of LA clearly speaks only for Hispanics. The possibility of whole U.S. sections being subsumed into a non-functional ethnic ghetto is no longer far-fetched. In the context of further quotes from Kimmelman�s New York Times piece, it�s highly discomfiting:

"�We have two separate cultures in Belgium,� said Mr. Thi�ry, a sturdy man wearing shirt sleeves on a warm summer day, clearly exasperated. �It wasn't this divisive when I grew up. Protesters shout, �French people get off our territory� at our meetings. Flemish authorities refuse to give contracts to our French-speaking schoolteachers; they give Flemish children here 179 euros a year for school trips and other expenses, French children, 68 euros. If we want subsidies, we are obliged to stock our library with 75 percent of the books in Flemish, but it's ridiculous to have a Flemish library in a mostly French-speaking town.�

�Should Flanders ever secede, an independent Flemish nation that hoped to regain European Union membership would need to respect popular elections, including his, he added ruefully. �Ironic, no?� he said.

�Els Witte is a Belgian historian. At her apartment, up the street from the headquarters of the European Union in Brussels, she pondered the bad marriage of French-speaking Wallonia and Dutch-speaking Flanders.

" �A language is a culture,� she said. �In Belgium the two cultures know very little about each other because they speak different languages. There are singers known in one part, not in the other. Television is different, newspapers, books.��

�Francophones have now come to talk about �linguistic cleansing.� Flemish, many of them openly resentful of subsidizing poorer French-speaking compatriots, who for years lorded it over them economically and otherwise (unemployment today is three times higher in rust-belt Wallonia), say the issue is preserving national heritage."

Let�s briefly recall that historic speech former Colorado Governor, Richard Lamm gave to a DC group of immigration reform writers in October, 2003 entitled "How to destroy America". The following is a part of my account of that speech (which I heard in person) as written up by Frosty Wooldridge:

�Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"

" �Here is how they do it�" Lamm said:

" �Turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bi-cultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual.

" �The historical scholar Seymour Lipset put it this way: �The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.� Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans.�

�Lamm went on:

" �Invent �multi-culturalism� and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

" �We could make the United States an �Hispanic Quebec� without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: �The apparent success of our own multi-ethnic and multi-cultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated, however ethnocentrically, what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.'"

�Lamm said, �I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural sub-groups living in America reinforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities.��

Belgium, Quebec, and the late Yugoslavia, are in that position because of history. America wasn�t�until the Immigration Act of 1965).

We must not let it happen here.

Donald A. Collins [email him], is a freelance writer living in Washington DC and a board member of FAIR, the Federation for American Immigration Reform. His views are his own.


The

Who'll protect US against invasion?

This piece is one of the best synopsis I've seen,.......the writer just relaxed and comfortable with good sense.

Looking foward to reading her book , "The Tyrany of Judges, and how to stop it"

she sure nails the border plumb center,......

Link: http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28000

Who Will Protect Us Against Invasion?

President George W. Bush, in China attending the Olympic Games, responded promptly to Russia's invasion of Georgia with the caveat that "territorial integrity must be respected." We're still waiting to hear the Bush administration's response to this month's invasion of Arizona's territorial integrity by the Mexican military.

More than 40 times this year, the Mexican military has crossed the U.S.-Mexico border. The Mexicans even held a U.S. border guard at gunpoint.

How long are we going to put up with Mexican impudence and federal neglect of duty? One of the most emphatic duties set forth in the U.S. Constitution is that the federal government "shall protect each of them (every State) against invasion."


Some pretend there is a "misunderstanding" about exactly where the border is. But border guards say there is a barbed-wire fence at the point where the Mexican military entered the United States.

Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., immediately pointed out that if the Bush administration had built the double fence Congress had ordered, the Mexican vehicles would not have been able to invade U.S. territory. The open-borders crowd claims that a fence is useless because people can easily climb it, but a Mexican army truck can't do that.

Nor can Mexican vans loaded with illegal drugs climb a fence. All the talk we hear about our "war on drugs" is totally hypocritical so long as no fence is built to keep out the drug-laden trucks.

It's not just Mexican military vehicles that are invading our space. Again this month we read about an SUV packed with illegal immigrants that evaded detection by our Border Patrol and then rolled over on a highway southeast of Phoenix, killing nine people and injuring the other 10 on board.

They were crammed into two bucket seats in front and three seats in the back of a speeding Chevrolet Suburban. A border patrol spokesman commented, "The smuggler doesn't care if their cargo lives or dies" because he's already been paid.

But we care about the law, about highway safety, and about the cost. Ten people with critical injuries, who had no right to be here, are now being treated in Arizona hospitals at U.S. taxpayer expense.

These latest Mexican invasions come on the heels of further depressing news about the mistreatment of border guards Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean.

When federal prosecutor Johnny Sutton embarked on his national public relations campaign to defend his prosecution of these border guards for allegedly shooting a professional drug smuggler in the rear end, Sutton's most impassioned argument was that Ramos and Compean obstructed justice by failing to report the incident. But on appeal the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeal overturned that part of Ramos and Compean's conviction, even though the court upheld the jury verdict and the 11- and 12-year prison sentences.

It's time to question not only President Bush but also the presidential candidates, Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama. Will you pardon these two border guards who most Americans and 75 members of Congress believe are the targets of unfair prosecution under a law never intended to be used against border guards, an unfair trial in which the Bush-appointed judge withheld from the jury damaging information about drug smuggler Osvaldo Aldrete Davila, who was the key witness against the defendants, unfairly long sentences (years longer than the same judge gave the professional drug smuggler whom Ramos and Compean intercepted), and unfair prison treatment in which they were beaten by illegal-immigrant prisoners?

In another recent flouting of the law, the Bush administration quietly posted a notice late on Aug. 4 that it is extending from one to two years its plan to allow Mexican trucks to enter the United States and have free access to our highways and roads. Only the week before, the House of Representatives Transportation Committee voted to terminate the program.

There are few issues on which Congress has demonstrated its will so emphatically with a bipartisan vote as the matter of Mexican trucks on our roads. Both houses of Congress have voted overwhelmingly against the invasion by Mexican trucks which do not meet U.S. safety standards, driven by Mexican drivers who do not meet U.S. safety and language standards.

On May 15, 2007, the House of Representatives voted 411-3 against the entry of Mexican trucks, followed by a second voice vote on July 24. The Senate voted likewise, 75-23, Sept. 11, and this law was signed by President Bush on December 26, 2007.

When will the Bush administration stand up for the territorial integrity of the United States against foreign military vehicles, vans with illegal immigrants, truckloads of illegal drugs driven by professional drug dealers, and unsafe trucks and drivers that don't meet U.S. standards?



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Mrs. Schlafly is the author of the new book The Supremacists: The Tyranny of Judges and How to Stop It (Spence Publishing Co).

Not likely to happen with Bush, McCain or Obama. Just face the reality, they know something WE don't. It is for our own good.

Having lived in S.E. Cochise County for well over 10 years now,.....I've gotten a mite shy of investigating big buzzard gatherings. Some of these remains lay out there for years, literally. Lord only knows how many are scattered by Coyote and Bear. That's a cheery thought,.......a population of Black Bear becomes accustomed to feeding on Human remains ?

Remains of third person found
Man also believed to be an illegal immigrant
By Julie Ann Marra
Herald/Review

Published on Wednesday, August 13, 2008

SIERRA VISTA � For the third time in four days, the corpse of a suspected illegal immigrant has been found in Cochise County.

The Cochise County Sheriff�s Office was told of a man�s body being found near South Coronado Memorial Road at about 12:30 a.m. Tuesday.
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The U.S. Border Patrol said it had units in the area when the body was located, which was 4 1/2 miles from Highway 92, approximately 4,000 feet north of the border, said Sheriff�s Office spokeswoman Carol Capas.

The man was wearing blue jeans, white tennis shoes and a blue shirt. Capas said an age could not be determined because of the advanced state of decomposition. The man had no identification on him, and there were no signs of foul play.

Cochise County Search and Rescue responded to the area after daylight to transport the body safely to the Cochise County Medical Examiner�s Officer for an autopsy to determine the date and cause of death.

Oscar de la Torre, the Mexican consul in Douglas, said his office is cooperating with Cochise County authorities to establish the identities of the dead people.

�We don�t know yet who they are, or what their names are, or anything like that, but we are working to find out,� he said Tuesday.

The Mexican Consulate will assist in the identification process and notify any next of kin, if possible.

Two bodies were found over the weekend in different rural areas, and both also were taken to the Cochise County Medical Examiner�s Office.

Foul play is not suspected in either case, according to the Sheriff�s Office.

At around 8 p.m. Saturday, the Sheriff�s Office was advised that U.S. Border Patrol agents had found the remains of a human in the hills east of the Gold Gulch area between Bisbee and Douglas.

The person had been dead for some time, and authorities believed it was a woman.

Two Border Patrol agents had been tracking a group of illegal immigrants when they came upon the body in a remote area north of a road.

At approximately 1:30 p.m. Sunday, the Sheriff�s Office was told of a dead body found by two hikers at mile post 3.9 on High Lonesome Road near Bisbee.

The body was in the beginning stages of decomposition, and deputies determined it was a man.

The remains of at least four illegal immigrants have been found in Cochise County this summer.

HERALD/REVIEW reporter Julie Ann Marra can be reached at 515-4680 or by e-mail at [email protected]. Herald/Review reporter Jonathon Shacat contributed to this report.

L.A. County,.....HEY, what's goin on here?

.............this almost makes sense,

GTC


Link: http://www.myfoxla.com/myfox/pages/...-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Program to Find Illegal Immigrants in Jails Approved

Last Edited: Tuesday, 12 Aug 2008, 8:01 PM PDT
Created: Tuesday, 12 Aug 2008, 8:01 PM PDT

A program intended to root out illegal immigrants in Los Angeles County jails will start specifically targeting gang members, following a vote by the Board of Supervisors.


Los Angeles -- A program intended to root out illegal immigrants in Los Angeles County jails will start specifically targeting gang members, following a vote Tuesday by the Board of Supervisors.

On a motion by Supervisor Michael Antonovich, the board voted to direct Sheriff Lee Baca to modify his department's agreement with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement to ensure that known gang members receive priority for interviews that would determine their immigration status before their release from jail.

"Every known gang member who is on the list for an interview should be interviewed prior to release back into our communities," Antonovich said.

Inmates are already subject to an immigration interview if they are self declared to be foreign born, have been convicted and will serve out their sentence in a county jail as opposed to a state prison, said Anna Pembedjian, justice deputy for Antonovich.

Of those inmates, known gang members will now be at the front of the line for interviews, she said.

The move follows public outcry after the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Jamiel Shaw Jr., allegedly by a reputed gang member, whom authorities believe was in the country illegally.

The shooting occurred the day after the suspect was released from a county jail.

Shaw's parents were among the dozens of members of the public who requested to speak on the subject before the board voted in what quickly became the most heated and drawn-out portion of the meeting.

"We tell our kids that nationality and colors don't make a difference, but when you have the illegal alien gangbanger come in and killing his brother, or doing all kinds of harm to American citizens, it brings back up the color issue," Anita Shaw, Jamiel's mother, told the board. "Something has to be done."

Other members of the public spoke out against the immigration interviews, saying that they resulted in law enforcement officials targeting and deporting illegal immigrants who had committed only minor offenses.

Roughly 4,000 gang members are currently in county jails, according to Baca.

Four points to the opposing team,....ouch,

Link: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=aGXnysnhBFqY&refer=latin_america

Four Mexican Police Chiefs Are Assassinated, Milenio Reports

By Hugh Collins

Aug. 12 (Bloomberg) -- Four police chiefs were assassinated in Mexico yesterday, bringing the number of police killed this year to 270, Milenio reported.

Top police officials were slain in the state of Mexico, north of Mexico City; Chihuahua, near the U.S. border; Quintana Roo in the south of the country; and Michoacan, on the Pacific coast, the Mexico City-based daily reported, without saying where it got the information.

An additional 15 people were killed in the states of Chihuahua, Sinaloa and Mexico, the newspaper said.

Mexico's top police officers are being targeted and killed as drug traffickers retaliate for arrests and record seizures stemming from President Felipe Calderon's crackdown on narcotics gangs.

To contact the reporter on this story: Hugh Collins in Mexico City at [email protected]

Last Updated: August 12, 2008 10:24 EDT

Buckets of blood,....running down gutters,

we worry about problems on the other side of the globe.

sure looks to be getting rough down there,.....hell, it's pretty rough here.

GTC

Link: http://m3report.wordpress.com/2008/...-national-front-against-organized-crime/

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El Universal (Mexico City) 8/12/08



- An officer of the Federal Police attending the Higher Academy of Public Security in San Luis Potos� was murdered while enroute to the city of Quer�taro with two other students. Their vehicle was riddled by gunfire and the two other officers have disappeared. His is the fifth murder of officers attending the academy. Four others were abducted earlier this month and their bodies found along the same San Luis - Quer�taro highway.



These murders are causing fear at the academy and the staff is calling for measures to increase security. Active Officers who attend the academy for advanced training are petitioning the director for authorization to carry weapons, since present regulations do not allow it. The officers who were murdered were not armed. The agents fear that �the enemy is within.�



- The subdirector of police in Tepalcaltepec, Michoacan was murdered by an armed group last night. This makes the third ranking police officer assassinated in the state this month.



- In Aguascalientes, two men were gunned down this morning near a police station. They have not yet been identified.



- In Monterrey, Nuevo Le�n business owners are asking support from the federal government to halt the insecurity in the state. Fear of reprisal and lack of official action is given for citizens� failure to to participate in reporting criminal activities.



- Twenty people were murdered in the state of Chihuahua in the past two days. The murders were in different parts of the state and there appears to be no connection in the rash of criminal events.



- In its editorial, �Exasperated with the impunity,� El Universal observes in part, �Yesterday the National Commission of Human Rights called for the construction of a national front against organized crime, worried because 99% of crimes continue with impunity, the distrust of police authorities is reflected in the reporting of only 10% of crimes, the procedures are inefficient and the penitentiary system is ineffective because of corruption.�



�The worst is that chiefs and agents of the forces responsible for public security are involved in crime and that some of the heads of criminal groups direct operations from jail by way of cell phones or instructions transmitted through their defense lawyers. The mess becomes more tangled every day.�



The editorial goes on to call for reforms in enforcement by following the examples already established in other countries. It concludes, �The political will is indeed lacking at all levels of authority to set aside their acrimonious quarreling and attend to what ought to matter most to us at this time. It�s a huge task for the authorities and the people and all the (political) parties in the 32 states of the Republic. Enough of wanting to benefit from the mistakes of others. We are going to win � or lose � this war, all Mexicans together. Let�s count on winning it, correctly and quickly. �

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El Debate (Sinaloa) 8/12/08



The unexplained temporary withdrawal of federal troops from four key inspection areas of Guam�chil, Sinaloa has arroused suspicion. The federal forces had been assigned to the areas with orders not to abandon them. Then according to an anonymous

source, at 10pm last Saturday evening they received orders to leave and no reason was given. They were ordered back to their posts at 3am Sunday morning. No one seems to know why the five-hour gap in surveillance was given.

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The key words were "if they are self declared to be foreign born".

I'm not real sure why this is such a "Key" word, Issue.

If the SOB is covered with rude tatoos from hairline to toes,....that repeat the # 13,....and he only speaks broken English between hawkings and spittings in one's face,....I'd say that "Benefit of the Doubt" quals. had been well met.

....yeah , yeah, I know ....deport......Lawyers, rights , blah blah ad infinitum.....

I'd jus' soon hang the POS.

GTC

Well, as anticipated, ....and forecast ( By the Maricopa Sherrif)
......He's off on anoither tear.

Chuckle, and a prayer for all of 'em.

Link: http://www.abc15.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=7223ea9a-69d2-48b0-936e-26d2ef00f0b3

100 deputies, volunteers conduct West Valley crime sweep
Reported by: Katrina Wessman
Email: [email protected]
Last Update: 6:44 pm

Click the play button on the video window to the right to see the story

As many as 100 Maricopa County Sheriff deputies and other volunteers were in the West Valley on Wednesday in an effort to catch human smugglers and undocumented immigrants.

Authorities said the deputies and volunteers were patrolling and arresting anyone violating the law, including immigration laws in the area of Dysart and Bell roads in Surprise.

Sheriff Arpaio�s enforcement efforts against human traffickers and their co conspirators has netted 1051 arrests since March 2006, according to a news release.

The human smuggling laws have created controversy, but the Arizona Court of Appeals upheld the legality of arresting both the smugglers and undocumented immigrants for the second time this year.

After Governor Napolitano took away $1.2 million designated to the Sheriff by the Arizona state legislator for the enforcement of the human smuggling laws, private citizens have come forward to offer support.

Over $36,000 has been donated to the Sheriff�s office, some of which was scheduled to be used in Wednesday's operation.

"I am proud to be doing the will of the majority of citizens in this county," Arpaio said. "I assure everyone that my deputies and posse handle these operations respectfully and professionally. And the unsubstantiated allegations repeatedly made by a select few elected officials and open border activists will not deter us from enforcing the law.�

Big Bucks flushed,Murders continue,

.....WOW, check out the bar graph at the bottom !

GTC

Link: http://m3report.wordpress.com/2008/...mexico-60-billion-annually-9-of-the-gdp/

� Murders continue - National Commission of Human Rights calls for national front against organized crimeCorruption by public servants costs Mexico 60 billion annually - 9% of the GDP
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El Diario (Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua) 8/13/08

- Corruption by public servants represents an annual cost of 60 billion dollars to Mexico, an amount four time larger than the income from petroleum exports, and 9% of the GDP, according to World Bank figures. A Mexican congressman, Hugo Martinez, said that acts of corruption at the federal, state and local levels, as well as concessions and services by private parties, increased from 115 to 197 million, according to the National Corruption & Good Gov�t. index. �Corruption engenders loss of credibility for the State, government and public administration, it inhibits citizens� participation in public affairs, induces illegality and inadequate assignment of funds as well as their appropriation by political and economic groups, with high costs to society.�
- Pedro Aragones, director of investigative services of the state of Chihuahua�s AG�s office, was shot to death and his �ministerial police� escort gravely wounded in a car-to-car gunfire assault in the state�s capital city, Chihuahua.
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Excelsior (Mexico City) 8/13/08

(First paragraph of an op column by Armando Roman)

�End of the social compact�
The State has collapsed: Mexico is a jungle. The warnings, the claims, the demands, in the media, on the street, were many. Nevertheless, our �authorities� did not listen to the millions of Mexicans who shouted to them to be careful and not to allow us to arrive where we have. The same is true for those many other Mexicans who lack a civic conscience, who could care less about their fellow man and who, in the context of the institutional orphan status which characterizes us, choose to rob, kidnap, rape, murder and a very long etcetera! The lack of legality and conscience of those who opt for crime has resulted in that the Mexican social compact - which in itself had never been complete - may now have become totally dissolved.
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a.m. (Leon, Guanajuato) 8/13/08

Juan Lopez, Social and Human Development Secretary, spoke before a local congress in Guanajuato and said that in that state there are 769,000 persons in �extreme poverty�, living in 149,000 dwellings. Of that number, 215 thousand live in �nutritional poverty� - not being able to pay for their food - because they earn 500 pesos or less per month. Guanajuato is also among Mexico�s leaders in suicides, lack of access to health and �expulsion� (read: source of migrants) of workers. (Note: Guanajuato, with close to 5 million inhabitants, is slightly smaller than Maryland)
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Cuarto Poder (Tuxtla, Chiapas) , La Cronica de Hoy (Mexico City) 8/13/08

The president (read: Chief Justice) of Mexico�s Supreme Court, Guillermo Ortiz, urged all sectors of government to act against insecurity and said that society�s indignation is justified because its integrity is threatened. He called for more technical and professional expertise in crime case investigations and for �adequate, complete, sensible and useful laws, with precise and severe punishment against crime. He added that the legislature must create laws which determine �unavoidable procedures� so that judges may legitimately impose punishment and sanctions.
Summed up : for the legislature: clear, useful and powerful laws. For the executive: professional investigations, as well as crime prevention and prosecution of criminals. For the judicial: just, impartial and objective sentences.
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Noroeste (Culiacan, Sinaloa) 8/13/08

Sinaloa State AG�s office data show that of an average 2,022 crimes officially reported, only 331 cases result in sentences for the perpetrators. That 16% rises to 96% when cases not officially reported are taken into account. All this due to lack of resources, lack of training and personnel background clearances.
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Norte (Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua) 8/13/08

Of the approximately 760 homicides which have occurred so far this year only nine cases have been referred to criminal courts.
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Diario Xalapa (Xalapa, Veracruz; part of large �o.e.m.� paper group) 8/13/08

During the current year organized crime has assassinated 62 Mexican federal agents including high ranking personnel, an average of 7.7 a month. In the majority of cases the victims were ambushed or forcibly abducted by strongly armed �commandos.�
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El Debate (Culiacan, Sinaloa) 8/13/08

(the following report makes the number in the previous item already obsolete)
Two federal �preventive police� officers were murdered before dawn today (Wed.) in the Mazatlan, Sinaloa, area. Thugs armed with assault rifles fired on them as the two agents arrived at a locale.
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El Diario de Coahuila (Saltillo, Coah.) 8/13/08

- A newspaper archive search from 2002 to date by �El Universal� reveals that active duty or ex-police officers were involved in half of the kidnapping cases reported. The cases involve federal, state and local police agents.
- The Public Security Secretary of the state of Sinaloa, Josefina Garcia, admitted the failure by all three levels of government regarding the Culiacan-Navolato Joint Operation, given that homicides (637 to date), auto theft and commercial establishment robberies �do not cease.�
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El Informador (Guadalajara, Jalisco) 8/13/08

An average of one hundred prison inmates escape Mexican jails yearly, which reveals the inefficiency and corruption of prison officials, as well as the �self-government� by the inmates. 496 prisoners fled from 2003 to 2007, a figure which could reach higher if it is contrasted with press reports of each event. During the same period there were 207 homicides within the jails as well as 157 suicides.
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El Porvenir (Monterrey, Nuevo Leon) 8/13/08

Besides impunity, the lack of economic growth and of generation of employment are the causes of crime due to the �desperation� by people in not being able to find jobs. This, according to Armando Paredes, president of Mexico�s Enterprisal Coordinating Council, who added that those persons represent an easy target for narcotraffickers. Nevertheless, the main problem is impunity, since only one out of one hundred crimes is punished.
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El Universal (Mexico City) 8/13/08

- �SIEDO� , a sub-agency of Mexico�s Dep�t. of Justice (a unit specializing in the investigations about organized crime) has been found to have been infiltrated by the Beltran-Leyva brothers� drug cartel. Two �high level� officials, one a coordinator of technical services, and the other a police personnel coordinator, plus a federal agent have been detained. (This figure was updated by another paper that said that six �SIEDO� personnel are now in preliminary detention.)
- There were thirteen homicides in Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, in the last 24 hours; one of them was a police officer. These deaths bring up to 33 the number of victims in Juarez in the last 72 hours.
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Ensenada (Ensenada, Baja Calif.) 8/13/08

About a dozen men managed to escape when Mex. naval personnel saw them unloading a launch at a dock in El Sauzal (quite close to Ensenada, B.C.) The load: 106 packages of weed weighing 1,522 kilos.
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(The attachment is a bar graph showing the amounts, in billions of dollars, of individual monetary remittances sent by Mexicans abroad back into Mexico.)
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Possibly

TSA is just SO inspirational and exemplary in it's exactitude and precision,.......NOT !

oh well, ....they "Supported" this op.

Link: http://www.loudountimes.com/news/2008/aug/13/Arrests/

ICE arrests 42 workers at Dulles International Airport
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By Gregg MacDonald
Source: Loudoun Times-Mirror
WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 13 2008
UPDATED WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 13 2008

On Wednesday, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested 42 men believed to be illegally present in the country at Dulles International Airport as part of a critical infrastructure protection operation.

ICE agents, with support of airport security agencies, arrested the illegal aliens just inside the airport grounds at a checkpoint established to verify the identity and immigration status of workers entering a service gate.

During a similar operation in June 2006, 55 illegal aliens working on airport construction were arrested.

�It is crucial to ICE�s homeland security mission to know who enters sensitive areas like airports, military bases and power plants to ensure the integrity of these key assets,� said Mark X. McGraw, special agent in charge of ICE�s Office of Investigations, Washington field office. �This operation illustrates ICE�s ongoing efforts in partnership with federal and local agencies to secure the critical infrastructure within the National Capital Region.�

ICE agents interviewed more than 200 individuals to verify their identities, immigration status and eligibility for lawful employment in the U.S. Most of the individuals encountered worked on construction projects at the airport.

Those detained are being interviewed, fingerprinted, photographed and entered into Department of Homeland Security databases at a local ICE office. Relatives and friends wishing to check on the custody status and detention location of those detained may call 866-341-3858, ICE�s toll-free, 24-hour hotline.

According to ICE officials, interviews can often generate critical law enforcement information that may lead to future investigations. There is no indication that any of the aliens were involved in any terrorist activity.

ICE agents prioritize enforcement efforts by focusing on the sites related to critical infrastructure and national security. The goal of such operations is to reduce the vulnerabilities at these facilities and other key assets to prevent potential attacks, according to ICE.

Unauthorized workers employed at sensitive facilities like airports, nuclear power plants, chemical plants, military bases, defense facilities and seaports, may compromise the integrity of these key assets, the agency says. In fiscal 2008, ICE agents have made more than 700 administrative arrests and 100 criminal arrests at critical infrastructure facilities.

The Transportation Security Administration and the Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority supported the operation.

And most of our leaders just seem to keep fiddling.

It is amazing to see all the murders, all the drugs and all the corruption.
People want cheap labor, people want cheap products (houses, Produce, other goods). We have people here that are too proud to work for minimum wage. We have companies that want to save money so they hire illegals and make a bigger profit.

While we are here complaining about border issues and making ends meet. The people in DC are getting rich off: Oil, insurance companies, and any other type of businesses that can afford to payoff someone to help their cause.
The problem solving begins in DC.
We need to hold companies that hire illegals more accountable.
We need to secure our border better.
We need more anti drug programs so the demand for illegal drugs can go down. Stiffer penalties for drug crimes.
Prosecute any drug load not just loads over 500 pounds.
We need more sherrifs like Joe Arpio. Better yet Our Fed Gov't needs to be like Joe Arpio.
We need to get more people educated.
We need to end welfare for people that can work and stop paying these people to have more babies.

Our biggest threat is not illegal aliens or mexico. Its our own Government we elect to protect us.
How much money do you think Our President is making off oil, the war in Iraq and helping friends? How much Money do you think John Edwards made as a lawyer against insurance and doctors?
How many other government faces are getting rich off, oil companies, insurance companies, companies that hire illegal aliens?
BTW how many are making money off the corporations that have not paid their taxes for years? What would happen to us for not paying taxes?

We can all blame everyone else, but the fact is, we allowed this to happen. I see people complain about Mexicans having to hold their gov't accountable to help stop illegal immigration. Why aren't we holding our Gov't accountable to stop illegal immigration, the rise in fuel cost and rise in health care cost? Exactly!

I don't know about you guys, but I always used to vote republican straight thru. This year I am voting against every single incumbent I can, whether it is Dummycrat or Republican. We need change and change is getting rid of all the trash we currently have in office.
McCain gets my vote for POTUS not because he is the best, but because he is on the republican ticket and I think after it is all said and done he is better than Osama Obama.
Plus no matter what happens our next president is gonna have to grant amnesty. I hate the thought of it, but there is no other way. I see everything happening at work, I am on the front line. I see the havoc illegals are causing on our hospitals, our desert our job rate.
At least when they are legal, they won't get free health care. I am legal and I sure as hell don't get it. If I was illegal it would be no issue.
Illegals that become legal will demand more pay and will have to pay taxes. They won't get the pay, they'll hate taxes so they will go home.
Other illegals will get turned off like they are now about not being able to get jobs so they will stop coming over and littering our desert.
Add More Agents to the Border and stiffer penalties for coming over and that will help a ton too.

I love this Country. I would die for this Country. However it is said how the liberals, big business and the blind eye in DC have let it get so bad. But you know as bad as it is and as much as I complain. I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. I bleed Red, White and blue and I sure as hell not gonna let our corrupt system take that away.

I am sure others will hate what I have written, maybe I am wrong. But what have us as American done to fix the issue? Where have we drawn the line?
Have we seen the damage too late to prevent Amnesty, to prevent a depression?
I guess only time will tell.

Kique

No. Not only 'no' but HELL NO! Those minimum wage jobs are for American teens, unskilled Americans and those on parole. Do you have any damn idea how hard it is for teenagers to find friggin' jobs? I have two teens that would love a minimum wage job in a burger joint. Two twenty year olds, too. Those kind of jobs are gateway jobs for any young person's career. Unloading trucks, painting, yard work, the whole 9 yards. Do you have teenagers?

Deport every illegal and we could end unemployment in America instantly.

Enrique, it's frustrating, isn't it?

When illegals kill,.....

Jeez, one would have to say that that's frustrating, no?


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When illegals kill

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Posted: August 14, 2008
1:00 am Eastern

� 2008

"Where you from?"

An illegal alien from Mexico, Pedro Espinoza, allegedly asked that of Jamiel Shaw Jr., 17 � before Espinoza shot and killed him.

Shaw, a promising high-school student athlete wooed by Stanford and Rutgers, was gunned down at 8:40 p.m. just three doors from his Los Angeles home, where his father, Jamiel Shaw Sr., awaited his arrival from the mall. Shaw's mother, Anita, learned the news of her son's March 2 shooting death while serving as an Army sergeant in Iraq.

Edwin Ramos, an illegal alien from El Salvador, on June 22 allegedly gunned down and killed Tony Bologna and his sons Michael, 20, and Matthew, 16. The Bologna family, coming back from a barbecue in their SUV, apparently blocked Ramos' car in a San Francisco intersection. According to reports, after the Bologna vehicle backed up and let the Ramos car pass by, Ramos allegedly opened fire on the family.

The common factor in these killings, as with so many others: The alleged killers came to the country illegally. Federal officials estimate that 40,000 of the 170,000 inmates held in Los Angeles County jails each year are illegal immigrants. And in the cases of Espinoza and Ramos, the police had previously arrested each and � for reasons that remain unclear � the authorities either never referred the arrested alien to Immigration and Customs Enforcement for deportation, or ICE failed to institute deportation proceedings.


Before Shaw's murder, Espinoza had been arrested by Culver City police and served time in a Los Angeles County jail for assault with a deadly weapon. Jamiel Shaw was killed the day after Espinoza's release from jail.

Five years ago, 17-year-old Ramos was convicted and sent to a juvenile shelter for severely beating a suspected rival gang member. After serving a few months, Ramos was released to his mother for probation. Four days after that, he attempted to mug a pregnant woman. Ramos was convicted of attempted robbery and sent to a juvenile camp.

After Ramos turned 18, federal authorities learned of his illegal status when he applied � and was rejected � for legal residency. The illegal alien then married a U.S. citizen and applied for permanent residency � the case still pending when the Bolognas were killed.

Three months before the Bologna murders, Ramos was stopped in the notorious Tenderloin district, and his passenger tried to dispose of a handgun that had been used in a double murder the day before. Ramos was arrested on felony weapons charges, as well as membership in a criminal street gang. Three days after his arrest, Ramos was freed when city prosecutors declined to file charges against him. And ICE did not ask about Ramos' immigration status until after he was released.

Retired San Francisco Police Capt. Tim Hettrich says San Francisco Police Chief Heather Fong told him, "You are not to work with these (federal) people," and it was "common knowledge" in the department that "you were not to do anything with ICE or immigration and illegals, whether or not they committed a crime � even to arrest them � because there will be the perception we are harassing illegals."

I recently interviewed Brian DeMore, field office director for ICE detention and removal operations in Los Angeles. DeMore declined to speculate about why the alleged killer of the Bolognas, Ramos, remained on the streets. But he agreed that Shaw's killer, Pedro Espinoza, should have remained in custody and referred to ICE.

Elder: It seems to me what's supposed to happen is as follows: Someone gets arrested. There's an inquiry made by local law enforcement � police or county � about this person's immigration status. The immigration status is not clarified to the satisfaction of the local law enforcement. Therefore, this person should remain in jail until such time as the local law enforcement is satisfied that this person is � or is not � an illegal alien.
DeMore: Absolutely. � At that point, that local police department would call ICE, or we would make contact with them under Secure Communities because we would receive an electronic notification that they've got someone in custody. � We have an incredibly large task ahead of us. We could always use more individuals. But we are leveraging technology to overcome some of those shortfalls. � The interoperability � where our data will seamlessly integrate with the FBI's, and anyone who makes a query with biometric data or through fingerprints is going to be identified � will be revolutionary and groundbreaking. � We are claiming that within three and a half years, we will be able to interview, detain and remove 100 percent of the Level 1 violators (those convicted of major drug or violent offenses), with Levels 2 (minor drug or property offenses) and 3 (other offenses) falling into line shortly thereafter.

Small comfort to the families of Jamiel Shaw and Tony, Michael and Matthew Bologna.



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Pretty sickening. Glad we're being protected.

How on Earth are these Mexican "Law Enforcement" going to recruit anybody,....with this going on?

Link:

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon.../081508dnintpolicekillings.47dfb00b.html


Suspected drug groups gun down Mexican police commanders in training

08:57 PM CDT on Thursday, August 14, 2008
By LAURENCE ILIFF / The Dallas Morning News
[email protected]

MEXICO CITY � Suspected drug trafficking groups are killing Mexico�s future police commanders before they can even emerge from the much-touted academy that is supposed to transform them into world-class officers.

In the past two weeks, five officers-in-training have been gunned down while traveling to and from the Public Security Superior Academy in the central state of San Luis Potos�.

Analysts said the attacks were both a warning to the cadets and to the government, which is waging an unprecedented fight against drug cartels.

�These groups no longer have any fear that by attacking police there will be some type of retribution,� said Mexico City police instructor Arturo Ya�ez, a former federal police adviser. �Their only limit is their imagination.�

The attacks have sparked a partial strike by the nearly 1,000 academy students, who are demanding the right to carry guns and are calling for police roadblocks to intercept drug gunmen.

In an open letter to Public Security Minister Genaro Garc�a Luna, the cadet strike leaders complained that students have been left defenseless in the face of drug hit squads that operate in and around the state capital, also called San Luis Potos�.

�We are commissioned to San Luis Potos� to be trained, when in reality they put us at the disposition of organized crime,� according to the letter, which was also sent by cadets to journalists. �Five of our colleagues have been executed in a cowardly and criminal act, unable to defend themselves since our superiors force us to leave our weapons behind when we travel.�

The letter said the cadets are both first-time students training to be Federal Police and current officers from different law enforcement groups around the country. They are taking part in a one-year program designed to elevate the commander corps of Mexico�s often-criticized police forces.

The striking cadets removed their uniforms while skipping morning classes, both as an act of protest and so as not to be identified when they left the academy, they said.

Still, they complained that they were easily recognizable in the capital city �because of the haircut that is required.�

Mr. Garc�a Luna, the police minister, has said the academy is the core of his program to root out corruption and create a new class of police officer using best practices found in law enforcement throughout the world.

�What we want,� he said in a September 2007 interview with The Dallas Morning News, �is that in a year we would have a thousand police commanders who will go all over the country to start the entire new police model that we need.�

The ministry declined to comment on the student strike, but officials from Mexico City visited the facility Wednesday, promising security for the students, who attended classes normally today while waiting for their demands to be met. They include guns, roadblocks and a special investigator into the five killings.

Four of the officers were killed while returning to their hometown � Morelia, Mexico � to visit their families over the weekend. The fifth officer was intercepted in his car and killed while traveling back to the academy after a visit to his hometown in the central state of Mexico near Mexico City.

From La_La Land,.....Governator and Mr. Potato Head,

"Universal City",.....is that not better known as "Hollywierd?"

Link: http://news.ktar.com/?nid=45&sid=934669

Schwarzenegger says U.S.-Mexico border unites
August 14th, 2008 @ 7:29pm
By MICHAEL R. BLOOD
Associated Press Writer

UNIVERSAL CITY, Calif. (AP) - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Thursday urged fellow governors on both sides of the U.S.-Mexico border to cooperate on issues from water management to building a green economy.

The annual Border Governors Conference spotlights a region that stretches from the Pacific coast to the Gulf of Mexico that is rife with unyielding problems _ pollution, gun-running and drug violence _ and economic potential.

Illegal immigration has strained relations between the two countries, but Schwarzenegger called the 2,000-mile border "a line that unites us."

"There is no divide to the air that we all breathe, or the clean water that we all depend on," said Schwarzenegger, a Republican who chairs the group. "There is no divide between our common desire to make the border region an economic powerhouse."

The border states _ California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas in the U.S., and Sonora, Baja California, Chihuahua, Coahuila, Nuevo Leon and Tamaulipas in Mexico _ plan to sign an agreement Friday to clean up huge discarded tire piles in the region. An agreement is also planned on climate change.

Competing interests at the border make solutions elusive. Officials are eager to promote bustling trade and tourism _ Mexico is California's biggest trading partner _ but drug trafficking and illegal immigration remain thorny issues.

Federal officials say nearly all illegal guns seized in Mexico are from the United States, and many of the weapons have been traced to smuggling points in Southern California, Arizona, Texas and New Mexico. Near the bustling San Ysidro crossing, assailants in Tijuana throw rocks, bottles and bricks at agents in San Diego, hoping to distract them long enough to jump the fence. The Bush administration is racing to meet a congressional mandate that called for 670 miles of fencing to be in place along the U.S.-Mexico border by the end of the year.

U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told the governors that the administration was looking for ways to speed cross-border travel, even as security is tightened in an age of terrorism. Chertoff also said the government wants to increase binational cooperation when floods or wildfires strike.

"We know that when storms or other natural disasters occur, they do not respect political boundaries," Chertoff said.

Wow, talk about out of touch, or denial, take your pick.

Some "dark underbelly" Blog editorial comment,......typifying frustration levels, and reeking of strong desire for overall change in approach.

Link: http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/08/heckuva_job_ice.html

Heckuva Job, ICE Princess & Abu Moskowitz: Alien Brags He's Been Deported 20-30 Times
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By Debbie Schlussel

If you got a zit in the same place 20-30 times, methinks you'd dump your dermatologist or, at the very least, try a new skin treatment.

But far more dangerous than porous skin is our porous borders. And it's simply a joke when a person, caught within our borders, brags that immigration officials know him and that he's been deported 20-30 times.

Believe you me, Jose Manuel Sanchez-Rojaz is not the only on who fits this description. Sadly, we've had the same incompetent witch doctors running Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Customs and Border Protection (CBP) for some time now and the same failed regimen to treat the problem:

A police investigation in Cleves, Ohio led to a startling admission by an alleged illegal immigrant--that he has already been deported more than two dozen times.

Sanchez-Rojaz: Illegal Alien Deported 20-30 Times
Jose Manuel Sanchez-Rojaz, 33, was arrested early Tuesday morning by a Hamilton County Sheriff's deputy. Sanchez-Rojaz was wanted for questioning regarding stolen vehicle. Authorities say the vehicle was stolen around 4 a.m. in the 6300 block of State Route 128.
During the questioning, Sanchez-Rojaz allegedly gave the deputy a false name and birthday. He was charged with falsification and obstructing justice.

The deputy says Sanchez-Rojaz also told him he "had been deported multiple times by immigration." Authorities say he went on to elaborate that meant some "20-30 times."

Sanchez-Rojaz also allegedly told the deputy that immigration officials "know me very well."

Sanchez-Rojaz was taken to the Hamilton County Justice Center. Officials with Immigration and Customs Enforcement were also notified.

Sanchez-Rojaz is scheduled to appear in court on Tuesday.


Blame "The ICE Priness," ICE's incompetent chieftess Julie L. Myers.

Ohio is the domain of Michigan/Ohio ICE Special Agent in Charge Brian Moskowitz a/k/a "Abu Moskowitz". Blame him, too, for Sanchez-Rojaz being here, yet again. And blame him for a sheriff having to do Moskowitz's job in catching this guy.

But, hey, Abu Moskowitz is too busy to handle these kinds of things. Too busy hanging out with FBI award revokee, marriage fraud perpetrator, and "former" Islamic terrorist Imad Hamad, and too busy seeking out new extra-marital girlfriends.

Yup, too busy, while this guy comes in and out of the U.S. 20-30 times.

Heckuva Job!

Posted by Debbie at August 14, 2008 12:37 PM

Comments
Do you have any conception what it costs in man hours, paperwork, etc etc each time you deport this charmer? I've been told it COSTS AS MUCH AS I MAKE IN A YEAR but the figures would be interesting. Any one have the definite amount?

Posted by: poetcomic1 at August 14, 2008 02:00 PM


Let's hope next time he becomes a drowning victim having used the sea route.

Posted by: GOLDENMIKE4393 at August 14, 2008 03:59 PM

poetcomic1

I don't think there would be an accurate figure and if it was figured the figures would most likely be altered or layed out to change the perception, since every region within ICE/DRO is administered to that "FOD's" (Field Operations director) method. Some areas rent an enormous amount of DVD's for these criminals to watch on weekends, whereas others have the cojones to not bother with such nonsense. Also, all have agreements or even contracts with food service providers to cater meals (typically sandwiches, chips, and a drink) which vary by areas. But some buy expensive food, not the bare essentials. Those are just two examples of the mountain of expense the current method requires. Yes the whole concept is ridiculous, but nobody at ICE management has ever addressed it!

Posted by: freefromi

I'm not sure I could handle watching them carry on like this in live time,....or in person,......

Would probably puke all over the pwetty carpet.

GTC

G5M,
Sickening beyond belief indeed!

Plinker,
I was a teenager not too long ago. I am only 26. But the point I am making is when you are without a job you do what you need to to survive even if that means a minimum wage job. But there are too many people that would rather not take that job because they are to proud. That is true no matter how we see it.
There are people that won't even work for 10 or 12 bucks an hour, because it is too hard.
Get rid of every single illegal around here and you WILL still have unemployment because whether you believe it or not, some people are plain lazy and you and I are supporting them with something the Gov't calls welfare.
Face it, you can pay someone 20 bucks an hour and they still won't go out and work those fields. Many will, but many won't.

Quote:
"Deport every illegal and we could end unemployment in America instantly. "
Sorry to say, but won't happen. Kinda funny too.
I guess we see different walks of life. Maybe what you are saying works for the people you come in contact with.
What I am writting is what I have seen/witnessed, heard, read and encountered.
I have seen people wanting to start as "CEO" so to speak rather than start at the bottom and work their way up.
I have sen people start at the bottom and become uppers.
I have reviewed apllications where people won't work for less than x amount when X amount is what the job is really worth.

I agree that burger joints are for teenagers, but when you have no choice, I'm sorry, some money is better than no money. If It was flipping burgers to feed my family or not feed them, flipping burgers wouldn't be so bad as a last resort.
But thats me and how I was raised, Humble not proud.


Crossfireoops is posting a lot of great information about the border issue. Some of the stuff I have seen and read before. All I can say is all that information is what you call a failed immigration policy. Until Someone in office gives a crap and someone can give them enough money will our immigration policy/border security be fixed.

Crossfire,
Great read and thanks for sharing what goes on near the border. Because of my job I can not share all that I have seen, but I will say this. My job has opened my eyes to how bad things are and how much gets covered up.
Great job Senor!!

Kique

(Kique, Please do not take this as a personal attack. I'm attacking the argument, not you personally.)

I'm calling your hand. Show us your cards. PROVE that "there are too many people that would rather not take that job because they are to proud." Prove it, not just quote what some other illegal immigrant supporter says. You said it, now back it up.

Waiting patiently for your evidence,

Plinker

"Great job Senor!!" quote Kique


Absolutely!

Well,.....this oughta get lotsa' ink,....and interminable talking head MSM coverage.

they seem to have quite a few things to protest, maybe they need some "Table of contents / index signs "

wonder if they'll have the "Boobs not Bombs" gargoyles in attendance,.....or the nekkid bicyclists?

Link: http://www.ocregister.com/articles/war-rally-protest-2124292-church-organizations

Wednesday, August 13, 2008
Protesters gear up for Saddleback presidential forum
Authorities expect 800 to 1,500 demonstrators to line up along sidewalks surrounding church.
By ALEJANDRA MOLINA
The Orange County Register
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LAKE FOREST � From opponents of illegal immigration to anti-war activists, demonstrators are gearing up for the presidential candidates' first and only confirmed joint appearance before the party conventions this Saturday at Saddleback Church.

Signs and banners are being made, e-mails are being sent and rally organizers are tidying up last-minute details before the big event.

Authorities expect anywhere between 800 to 1,500 demonstrators to line up along sidewalks surrounding the church, said Lt. Don Barnes, chief of police services for Lake Forest.

Ian Thompson with A.N.S.W.E.R Coalition (Act Now To Stop War & End Racism), said his group is expecting many hundreds to protest the war in Iraq, among other issues.

"We will certainly have a good and vibrant demonstration and we don't plan on having any problems," Thompson said. "Iraq should be for the Iraqi people. We need more jobs and more money for education, healthcare not endless funds for the Pentagon budget which goes to fund war on innocent people abroad."

Its most significant rally this year was on March 15, when about 10,000 hit the streets of Los Angeles to protest the Iraq war. The group also recently participated in the May 1 immigrant rights rally in LA.

At least 15 different protests are expected outside the church, including one organized by a coalition of Minutemen organizations.

More than 100 anti-illegal immigration activists and Minutemen members will rally with specific demands: to free former Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean and to withhold federal funding to sanctuary cities.

"We would like the next president to make the commitment to examine the case, to pardon them because we feel their whole situation is a miscarriage of justice," said Deborah Craig with Campo Minutemen.

Ramos and Compean were convicted in 2006 and sentenced to 11 and 12 years in prison, respectively, for the February 2005 shooting of illegal immigrant and admitted drug smuggler Osvaldo Aldrete Davila on the Texas border near El Paso. Both men claimed they shot at Davila in self-defense.


Sheriff's officials have been in contact with organizations that plan to be at the event, Barnes said. Officials are also considering briefing protest organizers before the event to make sure no laws are broken while the organizations exercise their free-speech rights.

Groups maintain that they will voice their opinions without conflict, including Obama supporters who are also planning on being at Saddleback.

"We're expecting definitely a couple of hundred at least, and from all different areas of South Orange County," said Rancho Santa Margarita resident Karen Garber who will be with her fellow Obama supporters. "We're keeping it positive and respectful."




Contact the writer: [email protected] or 949

No Flames,......no particular comment on this,

other than it ties to very recent discussions on this ongoing thread.

I've worked on pipe laying barges, in the Gulf,.....tough racket.

This report has a ring of truth to it, sure certain.

Link: http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/aug2008/db2008084_341769.htm

Immigration August 4, 2008, 12:01AM EST text size: TT
U.S. Oil, Imported Workers
Oil staffing and service companies are accused of illegally employing non-U.S. workers on rigs in the Gulf of Mexico�and displacing American workers
by Moira Herbst

To Daryl Johnson of Orange, Tex., work as a rigger on pipe-laying barges seemed like a pretty sure bet. The pay was good�$18.50 an hour�and with oil exploration booming, Johnson felt secure with Houston-based Horizon Offshore Contractors, which had hired him in 1999. But Johnson, speaking through his attorney, says he got concerned when managers told him there were no openings for friends whom he referred for jobs, even while Horizon continued to hire Mexican and Malaysian nationals. Then, in 2007, Johnson lost his job. "They gave me no explanation," says Johnson.

However, in Johnson's mind and in those of other oil workers in the Gulf, the connection to the cheaper foreign workers is clear. His allegations are part of a lawsuit moving forward in federal court in Texas, which claims that a group of U.S. energy services companies operating in U.S. waters on the Outer Continental Shelf in the Gulf of Mexico are using workers recruited from Malaysia, Mexico, the Philippines, and other countries to displace U.S. workers, at less than half of the pay. According to the lawsuit, the staffing is illegal because non-U.S. workers are working without proper visas aboard foreign-flagged vessels that are in fact controlled by American companies.

"Paid Pennies on the Dollar"
For years, immigration has been a tense topic, mostly centered around the estimated 12 million low-wage, undocumented workers and the ability of Silicon Valley companies to secure extra visas (BusinessWeek, 3/6/08) to import thousands of skilled technology workers. But now, as a recession looms and the Presidential election heats up (BusinessWeek.com, 7/28/08), attention is turning to another booming industry: oil services. It's not widely known, but both onshore and offshore in the Gulf of Mexico, non-U.S. workers can be found doing shipbuilding, pipe-fitting, welding, rigging, and related jobs. Some of them are here on temporary visas and some may be undocumented.

Johnson's suit, Cunningham, et al v. Offshore Specialty Fabricators, Inc. et al, was filed in U.S. District Court in the Eastern District of Texas, Texarkana Div. in December 2004. On July 21 the judge issued a scheduling order that calls for both sides to begin discovery and depositions on Aug. 10.

The case is about working conditions for both U.S. and non-U.S. workers, says plaintiff's attorney Tony Buzbee of Buzbee Law Firm in Galveston, Tex. The foreign workers "were paid pennies on the dollar, worked grueling hours for days on end, and were essentially captives on the rigs because they were paid when repatriated," says Buzbee. "This suit seeks remedy for the American workers who were paid less due to wage market suppression or who lost their jobs due to being replaced."

The oil services and staffing companies named as defendants in the suit declined to comment.

Incentive to Cut Labor Costs
It might seem like there is plenty of money to go around for the companies that explore for and produce oil. Crude-oil futures prices, after all, have jumped by 64% over the past year, to $125 a barrel. The largest untapped fields are to be found on the ocean floor, which is in part why spending on offshore drilling worldwide rose from $29.4 billion in 2000 to $61.8 billion in 2007 and will reach at least $77 billion by 2010, according to Spears & Associates, a Tulsa energy consulting firm.

However, with high demand has come a growing shortage of specialized drilling rigs. That has driven the drilling costs for some of the newest deepwater rigs in the Gulf of Mexico�the U.S.'s top source of domestic oil and natural gas supplies�to about $600,000 a day, compared with $150,000 a day in 2002. Experts say rising costs for vessels create a big incentive for companies to cut their labor costs.

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"The way to make a lot of money in energy is to keep labor costs down," say Katharine Donato, professor of sociology at Vanderbilt University, who has published research on immigration to the Gulf of Mexico. "Companies have access to international labor pools through a variety of avenues. They just have to figure out a way to pay [the workers]."

Recruiting in Malaysia
In a 2005 deposition, James Ireland, vice-president of the staffing firm Oceanwide Houston, a subsidiary of Netherlands-based Humares named in the suit, explained how his company met the challenge. He said Oceanwide took to "outsourcing to the offshore." He described the process of meeting with a client such as Stolt Offshore and discussing its employment needs, and then contacting another Humares subsidiary to fill the order. "We would send an e-mail or a fax to Cyprus (where OWI, another subsidiary of Humares, is located) saying we have an order for eight riggers," he said. "Sometimes you're more specific, maybe they want Malaysians or maybe they want Mexicans or whatever the nationality may be, please source and advise."

Ireland said a contractor such as OWI would recruit workers from communities such as the Iban tribe in the jungles of Malaysia. The recruited workers were taken to the U.S. embassy in their home countries, where they told the embassy that they would work on foreign-flagged vessels. That would place them outside the requirements of U.S. labor and immigration laws. The staffing firm then flew the workers to Houston or another Gulf-area location, Ireland said, where it informed customs that the workers were going to work for foreign vessels offshore in the Gulf of Mexico. After clearing customs, they would then be picked up by a shipping agent, taken to a shore-based helicopter base, and then to vessels offshore.

Ultimately, the lawsuit alleges, the workers perform projects for U.S. energy firms such as Houston-based J. Ray McDermott Inc., Houston-based Offshore Specialty Fabricators, Cal Dive International (DVR), Carlyss ( La.)-based Global Industries (GLBL), and Stolt Offshore, now Acergy (ACGY). Allegedly, the vessels are misleadingly marked with the flags of the Netherlands and Cyprus, meaning the crew is under the jurisdiction of those countries, even though they are performing work for U.S. companies.

150 Days on Vessels
Ireland's office at Oceanwide Houston declined requests for comment. Spokespeople for Humares and its subsidiaries declined to comment on the issues raised in the suit. A spokeswoman for C-Mar Group, another staffing company named in the suit, also declined to comment.

Once aboard the vessels, the workers are paid 20%-40% of what a U.S. worker such as Johnson would earn, says the plaintiff's attorney. For example, Jenggi Kaloum, an Iban worker for Stolt Offshore referenced in the 2005 Ireland deposition, was paid $40 per 12-hour day, while an American worker would make $200 or more per day for the same work. Kaloum could not be reached for comment. Once offshore, the workers can remain on vessels for 150 days in a row, earning no overtime, says Buzbee. He says the workers are paid only when they return to their home countries with money routed by the staffing firm.

Spokespersons for Offshore Specialty Fabricators, Offshore Express, J. Ray McDermott, Global Industries, and Acergy declined to comment on the lawsuit or on their hiring practices for Gulf of Mexico projects. A representative for Cal Dive did not return calls requesting comment. Buzbee says he believes defense attorneys will argue that the U.S. service companies did not know that the vessels were flying foreign flags. The case is expected to be heard in 2009.

With Brian Grow and Steve LeVine.

Herbst is a reporter for BusinessWeek.com in New York.

I'm also in the oil business and I've found that after 30+ years in the business, I've learned and I can tell you without reserve that "if you pay peanuts you get monkeys".

Many oil companies have to learn the hard way, because they are run by school kids and bean counters but it will be a learning curve for them also. If you want good people out there working for you, be ready to pay that extra money because in the end you save money, by avoiding wrecks and deaths.

J. Ray McDermott sure musta' changed a bunch,......I worked for them 40 years ago,....they were a pretty fair kinda' outfit.

GTC

No Chit,......BUCKETS of blood washing down the gutters in Old Mex. Towns.....

Link: http://www.elpasotimes.com/newupdated/ci_10204888

Gunmen kill eight in massacre at Ju�rez drug treatment center
By Daniel Borunda / El Paso Times
Article Launched: 08/14/2008 06:47:48 PM MDT


EL PASO - Eight men were killed and five others wounded when a group of gunmen fired a barrage of more than 60 rounds during a religious service in a drug treatment center in Ju�rez on Wednesday evening.
The mass killing was believed to be largest during the rash of more than 760 homicides in Ju�rez this year.

The men had gathered for a religious service at around 7:45 p.m. when a "commando" style group entered and began shooting inside the Centro de Rehabilitacion para Adictos CIAD No. 8 (Rehabilitation Center for Addicts) at 324 Avenida de los Aztecas, Chihuahua state investigators said.

Six men died inside the center, two died at or while en route to a hospital. Five men, including three in critical condition, were hospitalized.

Daniel Borunda may be reached at [email protected]; 546-6102.

I just saw that and was going to post the same thing....


Mass murder during a religious service in a rehab center..... special place in Hell

2W,......the Devil, he's walkin' abroad in daylight,

sure certain.

GTC

Yep... I always liked this.... he hates to be mocked:

http://www.seark.net/~jlove/screwtape.htm

From The Screwtape Letters, New York: Touchstone, 1961. C.S. Lewis prefaces this work with two quotations:
The best way to drive out the devil, if he will not yield to texts of Scripture, is to jeer and flout him, for he cannot bear scorn. -- Luther
AND
The devil...the prowde spirit...cannot endure to be mocked. -- Thomas More

From what I'm seeing more and more are willing to make do with the "monkeys" if it means higher profit. If they are all doing it, they all get the higher profit, and those in the construction buisness who opt for better workmanship can't even get contracts.

Just check out any new subdivision in CA and look at the shotty workmanship in the track homes going up, yet they keep on selling because shotty workmanship is about all there is to choose from.

If you don't own your own buisness where you can take advantage of the cheap labor, or you didn't get a college education, you are pretty much screwed, because it has become apparent that our government has absolutely no intentions of cutting off the cheap labor...none.

I think it's almost comical that with this sort of thing running rampant, people here still see unions as a big problem.

Plinker,
No offense taken. A little taken over the illegal immigrant supporter comment, but oh well if thats how I sound, thats bad on my part.
I don't and never will support illegal immigration. Bottom line.

What I write is what I have witnessed not what someone else had said.
Being a manager of a store once, I would have lots of people come in and apply for jobs. They expected more money than the job was worth.
I talked to people about roofing jobs and mining jobs and other labor related jobs. Many were, well I am looking for an inside job and I can't see myself outside breaking my back.
You ask people around here. Illegal immigration has been a big topic. Many said they won't go out and work the fields.

My uncle is a proud idiot as far as I am concerned. He has two degrees and when he looks for a job he wants to start on top instead of working from the bottom up. If he don't start at the top he won't take it. To me you do what you have to to support your family even if its shoveling $hit in a corral.

Another example. I can go to every fast food joint here in the area, and I can bet and I know that 90 percent or better have help wanted signs. I sure don't see the teenagers taking those jobs. I don't see the enemployed taking those jobs.
I hit the Carl's jr drive thru on my way home last night. Seen a sign looking for cooks, cashiers, shift leads and managers. They said pay was 8 and change for the lower positions and the pay obviously went up for leads and management.
Why aren't those jobs being jumped on.

We have a $hitty unemployment rate not because illegals are taking the jobs.
Its because the enemployed either: don't want those jobs, don't want to work, or are too good and want more or better.
I don't know how you were raised, but I was always told to make do with whats out there until a better job comes along. A lot of people don't grasp that concept.

The illegals are doing what we let them do. We allow them to mooch off our medical system, we allow them to do our labor jobs, and we let the criminals run a muck.
Heck I bet if any of use seen or heard of a place that gave us free medical we'd be all over it.
I am sure the big businesses are making a killing off cheap labor, but at the same time, besides profits, what made them go find cheap labor. Maybe no one wanted those jobs? Maybe no one could pass a drug test or physical? Maybe having an illegal that had no union or legal rights would not sue or rat them out if they got hurt on the job?

I don't know. You want proof, read the above, look in the paper and see the gobs of jobs available, ask someone why they are unemployed.
I am sure many are not related to illegals taking there jobs.

It is a never ending cycle if you ask me. We send hundreds of people back every day and hundreds keep coming back.

You want the unemployment rate to go down. Have all states have laws like here in AZ where you have to be legal to work. Help some of these people that are unemployed get educated and find better jobs.
Get rid of welfare and force people to those minimum wage jobs that others are not taking.
Stop sending all our businesses over seas.
Correct the price of fuel so car Factories can start up again and hire Americans.
Thats how you stop unemployment, not sending millions of people back all over the world where they came from.
For those of you that drive Fords, Thank a Mexican. Ford has a Mostrous plant in Hermosillo Sonora. A few years ago they sunk another couple billion into it to make it more productive. You ask about unemployment, thank Ford for taking those jobs to mexico instead of leaving them here for Americans.

I may be young, but working contract with DHS has taught me and educated me on a ton of things.

I surely am not for illegals, I think they need to come over legally. But that is harder than it sounds. But no excusses they need to.
Get rid of cheap labor and people will complain how expensive produce is, how much more expensive houses are.

Bottom line, stop the handouts and get people off their behinds.

Kique

"Bottom line, stop the handouts and get people off their behinds."


But you can't buy votes that way!

"American Border Patrol
Report: Faulty design turned border fence into dam"

.....Like we expected them to get it right?

Knicker Knots sorta' issue,....IMHO

Link: http://www.americanpatrol.com/ABP/NEWS/2008-UP/080815-LUKEVILLE-FLOOD/LukevilleFlood080815.html

GTC

Sue the Country of Mex. ?

Link: http://www.americanpatrol.com/ABP/NEWS/2008-UP/080815-LUKEVILLE-FLOOD/LukevilleFlood080815.html

Suspect backs into deputy, he'll be okay
August 15th, 2008 @ 7:30am
by Sandra Haros/KTAR

A Maricopa County sheriff's deputy suffered minor injuries when he pulled over a car carrying about 15 suspected illegal immigrants in the north Valley.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio said the stop was made Thursday afternoon near Interstate 17 and Table Mesa Road.

``They (the suspects) were fleeing into the desert. The driver backed into one of our deputies. We're looking into charging the driver with assault. As they fled, I think he hit another occupant of the car."

Arpaio said two women and two children were among the car's occupants.

He said the incident demonstrates the dangers deputies face.

``Whenever our deputies enforce the law, there's always a chance for some type of violence," the sheriff said. ``There's always a chance for some tpe of violence. We've been very lucky with 1,100 arrests on criminal violations of human smuggling. We try to do the best we can."

He added, ``There's a lot of violence connected with illegal immigration. But, I don't lose any sleep at night. The reason is I have full confidence in my deputies. They know how to take care of business."

Those who tried to flee after Thursday's traffic stop were caught.

Another Stinker,....dammit,

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/ss/border/93852.php

No, I'm not "Signing up" for the Tucson Citizen,..so can't post hard text

GTC

Dunno' a thing 'bout C. Baldwin,.....

to busy chasin' down the news,....

Link: http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2008/cbarchive_20080815.html

America's Greatest Threat
by Chuck Baldwin
August 15, 2008






Every time violence erupts somewhere in the world, our national leaders and news media make it sound like that particular outbreak is America's greatest threat. The conflict between Russia and Georgia is no exception. Almost as soon as news of the conflict broke, the presumptive Republican Presidential nominee, John McCain, was suggesting that the United States (or the United Nations) should send troops to the scene. I guess two wars are not enough for McCain; he now wants to start a third. (And with all his talk about bombing Iran, make that four.) And talk all over Washington, D.C., was mostly about what kind of military response the United States should take.

Have people lost their minds? Or do people really believe that the United States is the world's--or should we say the United Nations'--policeman? Apparently, that is what our national leaders from both major parties believe.

Let's face it: most of America's foreign policy over the last several decades has been more about fulfilling the U.N.'s global desires than protecting the people and property of the United States. And, yes, that includes America's invasion of Iraq.

Do readers not remember that soon after launching the invasion of Iraq, President Bush appeared before the United Nations and plainly told that sinister organization that the reason he had ordered the invasion of Iraq was to "defend . . . the credibility of the United Nations"? Frankly, I did not know the United Nations had any credibility worth defending. Nevertheless, G.W. Bush was willing to sacrifice over 4,000 American lives for the express purpose of defending the U.N.'s "credibility." Now, John McCain appears willing to send troops to Georgia.

I will not use this column to analyze the specific events leading up to Russia's attack against Georgia, except to say that one can count on the fact that there is much more to the story than what NBC, CBS, ABC, and CNN are telling us.

In addition, one of the major fallacies being perpetrated by most in Washington, D.C., is the notion that America is somehow strengthened and protected by aggressive meddling in the affairs of foreign countries. Such a philosophy was considered anathema to America's Founding Fathers. They rightly understood that such reasoning created more problems than it solved and that it made America more vulnerable, not more secure.

Regardless of what the underlying and overriding reasons for Russia's attack might have been, I will say here and now that the Russian-Georgian conflict is not America's greatest threat. I will also be so bold as to say that Iran or North Korea is not America's greatest threat, either. In fact, I will categorically state that no foreign nation (although, of all foreign nations, Red China should undoubtedly be our biggest concern--and none of our national leaders seem the least bit concerned about it) is America's greatest threat. America's greatest threat comes from within. And I am not alone in that opinion.

Daniel Webster warned, "There is no nation on earth powerful enough to accomplish our overthrow. Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence. I must confess that I do apprehend some danger. I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants and fail properly to scrutinize their conduct; that in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men, and become the instruments of their own undoing."

While the national media focuses on Russia, Georgia, Iraq, Afghanistan, or Iran, our own leaders are quietly molding the clay of our own demise right here at home. Both political parties, and the standard-bearers they select, are facilitating the surrender of our national sovereignty and independence. They are working in darkness to build an international community where the laws and principles of individual nation-states (including America's) are made subservient to the laws and principles of international entities. This is America's greatest threat.

For example, John McCain supports the International Criminal Court. Can you believe this? Can you imagine U.S. citizens being hauled off before an international court to be tried for crimes? Imagine an international court whose rulings and opinions overrule U.S. rulings and opinions. Imagine a court setting where the constitutional protections of the Bill of Rights are null and void. Imagine a court setting where international law trumps U.S. or state laws. If that is not a surrender of U.S. sovereignty, nothing is! And John McCain is all for it.

Furthermore, both John McCain and Barack Obama support NAFTA, the WTO, GATT, and the FTAA. Both major party candidates support the NAFTA superhighway, the creation of a North American Community (which is the precursor to a North American Union), the SPP, and the United Nations.

Ladies and Gentlemen, America is on the verge of losing its independence and its national sovereignty. And both major political parties (along with a compliant national media) are equally culpable. And mark this down: when America loses its independence and national sovereignty, we also lose our freedoms and liberties. Please remember that before a Constitution and Bill of Rights could be drafted, there was first drafted a Declaration of Independence. It is the Declaration of Independence that lays the cornerstone and builds the wall of protection around the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Lose the Declaration and we lose the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

No, the greatest threat to America does not come from Russia, Iraq, Iran, or any other foreign country. America's greatest threat comes from a complacent populace who would sit back and do nothing while our own civil magistrates surrender our nation's sovereignty and independence to international interests.

Think about it: 232 years after Thomas Jefferson drafted the Declaration of Independence, and after our Founding Fathers pledged their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor to defend that document, our nation's leaders from both major parties are in the process of ceding America back to the kind of global empire from which we fought to break free. This is America's greatest threat!

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Heartwarming,...the "Family Values" that these opoor downtrodden
bring along with the quest for jobs that we won't do.

I'll call a spade a spade,.....ya'll make no mistake,...this has become a "Sport",....amongst deviant gang-bang, "Iglesia Satanico" types,.....killin's to good for 'em,......we need something worse,....

Link: http://www.ocala.com/article/20080815/NEWS/875745111/-1/news%26title=Man_charged_with_molesting_6_year_old_girl

Man charged with molesting 6-year-old girl

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Published: Friday, August 15, 2008 at 12:31 p.m.
Last Modified: Friday, August 15, 2008 at 12:34 p.m.
OCALA - A 25-year-old man was charged Thursday with sexual battery on a child after he reportedly molested a 6-year-old girl, according to a Sheriff�s Office report.



MARION COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE Ricardo AmayaThe girl told investigators that Ricardo Amaya put her on a bed, pull her pants down and molested her. The girl said that when she tried to scream Amaya covered her mouth.

The girl told officials that she reported the incident to her mother, who in turn called deputies.

Amaya, who is an undocumented immigrant, was brought to the Sheriff�s Office for an interview. He declined to say anything.

He was then taken to the Marion County Jail.

- Austin L. Miller

Go,......Joe.

Link: http://www.azcentral.com/community/surprise/articles/2008/08/15/20080815sweepsfolo-CP.html

Arpaio's West Valley sweeps netted 102 arrests
by Brent Whiting - Aug. 15, 2008 05:58 AM
The Arizona Republic
At least 102 people have been arrested during a two-day crackdown by sheriff's deputies on human smuggling in the West Valley, authorities said late Thursday.

The arrests, including suspected smugglers, illegal immigrants and people wanted on criminal warrants, were reported at mid-afternoon Thursday by Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

He said more arrests were expected as the sweep, described by Arpaio as a �crime suppression� effort, was to continue into the evening hours.
�We have sent out about 100 deputies and posse members,� Arpaio said.

By the numbers, Captain Paul Chagolla said in a statement that 81 of those arrested were identified as being in the United States illegally. Of those, 32 were booked on state charges, and 8 warrant arrests were made.

The operation was being conducted from a back parking lot at the sheriff's District III substation, 13063 W. Bell Road, in Surprise and reportedly focused on several West Valley areas, including a stretch of Grand Avenue between El Mirage and Surprise.

A number of Latino activists showed up Wednesday at the substation to protest the operation, but Arpaio was not present.

Instead, he met with reporters Wednesday evening at a briefing spot about two miles away in Sun City West at R.H. Johnson and Stardust boulevards.

Arpaio said Thursday that the public has donated nearly $36,000 to support such operations since Gov. Janet Napolitano in May took away the funding and redirected $1.6 million to a state-led fugitive task force. "The success of our illegal immigration enforcement efforts under state underscores the serious problem we face here in Maricopa County," Arpaio said in a statement released late Thursday.

Hope the Sheriff gets reelected. He is one of very few elected officials who appreciates that illegal immigration is a problem.

Second day in La-La Land,....Governator and Potato Head vie for top honors in sheer stupidity,....and crass masturbatory behaviors.

This is what's getting PUBLISHED,......

can you even begin to imagine what goes on behind the scenes?

Universal City, "HollyWierd"

BRrrrr

GTC

Link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080816/ts_nm/governors_border_dc

U.S., Mexican states may charge to cross border Fri Aug 15, 9:08 PM ET



LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - U.S. and Mexican states are considering charging a fee for border crossings to raise money for infrastructure improvements that would reduce congestion at border posts, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said on Friday.

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The news came after governors from the 10 border states met with U.S. Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff at the Border Governors Conference in Los Angeles.

"Everyone agrees that we need to expand the pipe ... which means that we can get more people across quicker, more efficiently," Schwarzenegger told reporters at a news conference. "And there is a lack of money right now ... maybe people pay a certain amount to come cross. Let's assume $5. Don't hold me to that but that would then pay the bonds so we can develop infrastructure."

Other options, Schwarzenegger said, include charging to use certain lanes of traffic at the border.

"All of this has to be thought through," he said, referring to such a plan as a "public-private partnership."

Such plans will be critical to making all kinds of infrastructure improvements throughout California in the years to come, Schwarzenegger said, adding that the state would need $500 billion of investment in infrastructure in the next 20 years.

In a joint statement the governors called for a substantial reduction in wait times to cross the border by 2013, and backed a drive by U.S. and Mexican federal agencies for funding to hire more border inspectors.

They also backed measures to curb crime in the borderlands, including human and gun trafficking.

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" They also backed measures to curb crime in the borderlands, including human and gun trafficking."

................this is what I mean by masturbatory wiedness,

ANY effort at "GUN Control" here on the line is going to hurt Mom and Pop, Joe average Guy,........and their kids.

NOONE else.

That meeting out in California's a wasted opportunity for a good old fashioned tar and feather party.

GRrrrrrrrrrrrr

GTC

Real Heartwarming,...and a congrats to the USBP folks on this one

.....check out the photos,.....they're not packed in very tightly there.

Sitting in a Semi sized Tractor or Truck,....one'll see folks stacked in like cordwood,....anyone lives here'll tell you that.

that's why the accidents are all so bloddy and horrendus,....overloaded, crammed,..........sigh


Link: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20080815-1422-bn15smuggle.html

Another disguised vehicle nabbed by Border Patrol


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By Greg Gross
UNION-TRIBUNE BREAKING NEWS TEAM

2:22 p.m. August 15, 2008

SAN DIEGO � Three days ago, it was a drug-smuggling attempt in the backcountry using a sedan disguised as a utility company car. This time, it was a pickup in San Ysidro, made to look like a construction-company truck in an attempt to smuggle immigrants into the United States from Mexico.


U.S. Customs and Border Protection
This photo provided by U.S. Customs and Border Protection shows people packed into the back of the truck.
Sedan disguised as SDG&E vehicle can't fool Border Patrol


Different vehicle, different cargo, different guise, same result � busted by Border Patrol agents.

The pickup had been made up to look like a truck from the Kiewit Corporation, a construction firm currently working on a large project near the border, a Border Patrol spokesman said.

The masquerade extended to the pickup's driver, who was wearing a yellow hard hat and a reflective orange safety vest, the spokesman said.

Border Patrol agents grew suspicious, however, when they saw the truck park briefly in a secluded spot along the border fence. When a radio check revealed that the pickup belonged not to Kiewit, but to a private resident of San Diego, they decided to stop the vehicle.

Seeing the agents, the truck driver sped off down Dairy Mart Road, but agents stopped the pickup near Interstate 5 with the help of a spike strip, the spokesman said. The driver was arrested.



Advertisement A check of the vehicle found one illegal immigrant in the cab and 10 more in the truck bed, crammed into a false toolbox, the spokesman said.
This comes three days after a woman was caught by Border Patrol agents near Campo trying to smuggle 223 pounds of marijuana across the border in a Ford Taurus made to look like a car from San Diego Gas & Electric.

Quote- Therefore, you still need someone to do the jobs lazy Americans won't do. Not saying anything derogatory here, but many people would rather go on wellfare than take an outside job or start at the bottom.-End Quote

Remove the welfare, solve the problem.

That's right and parents also need to cutoff the welfare to their children.

On another note. "Did the pilgrims arriving to Plymouth need visas?
LOL

There were no domestic laws in effect regarding that issue at the time.

Today, there are laws.

There were laws in place, but they were disregarded. The natives told them that this was their land but those laws were not upheld by the newcomers. Why would you expect new immigrants to respect your new laws.
Ask any American Indian -what he thinks about immigration?

Another poor downtrodden one , on a quest for all that's better here,.....taken off the streets,.......

How Sad,........yeah,,........right

Link: http://www.orland-press-register.com/news/alcala_2382___article.html/stop_county.html

Traffic stop ends in arrest
Thursday, Aug 14 2008, 11:20 pm
By Rob Parsons/Staff Writer
A routine traffic stop ended Tuesday with an illegal immigrant behind bars in Glenn County facing multiple drug and weapons charges.

Brazzi stopped Pedro Alcala, 28, on County Road P, south of Orland for vehicle code violations. Alcala told Brazzi he did not have a driver�s license and was instructed to exit his vehicle.

According to sheriff�s logs, Alcala pulled a loaded stainless steel Colt .25 pistol from his pants waistband and tossed it on the seat before getting out of his car. Alcala was then handcuffed and searched for other weapons.

Sheriff�s Lt. Rich Warren said Alcala did not point the weapon at the deputy.

During the vehicle search, Brazzi recovered another handgun, a .22 caliber revolver, and 15.1 grams of methamphetamine. Warren�s field tests confirmed the substance as meth.

Alcala is being held without bail in Glenn County jail on multiple counts including possession and transportation of a controlled substance for sale and possession of loaded and concealed weapons while driving, and driving without a license.

Alcala appeared in court Wednesday, but it was not clear if he entered a plea. An after business hours phone call to the court clerk�s office was not immediately returned.

Following his time in Glenn County, Warren said Alcala would likely be deported to Mexico.

And who gave permission when the Sioux moved west to new lands, or wave after wave of newcomers came down from the north.
We now have a nation and laws in place to protect it,
What we need is someone in charge who cares enough about the future of our country and less about getting being liked by the Mexicans.

King of Kidnappings,.......

I don't like the sound of that, and cleave to AUTOMATIC death penalty in retribution therefore.

Link: http://m3report.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/mexico-the-king-of-kidnappings/

Mexico - the �king� of kidnappings!
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FORMER BORDER PATROL OFFICERS
Visit our website: http://www.nafbpo.org
Foreign News Report

The National Association of Former Border Patrol Officers (NAFBPO) extracts and condenses the material that follows from Mexican and Central and South American on-line media sources on a daily basis. You are free to disseminate this information, but we request that you credit NAFBPO as being the provider.

Diario de Yucatan (Merida, Yucatan) 8/15/08 (This item also appeared in a large number of other papers all across Mexico today)

- headline: �Mexico, the king of kidnappings�
In a study titled �Kidnapping is an explosive business� the Holland-based Pax Christi organization pointed out that between three and four kidnappings take place daily in Mexico and that Mexico occupies the first place for kidnappings among all countries in the world. The study was presented in Bogota, Colombia; it also advocates a policy on non-payment of ransoms nor concessions to the kidnappers.
The document points out that the strengthening of criminality associated with narcotraffic has influenced kidnappings, whose victims are mainly business leaders and the upper middle class. Data from Mexico�s Dep�t. of Justice reveals the 3 to 4 daily figure, which surpasses Ecuador�s 35 to 45 yearly and Venezuela�s, where there were 297 kidnappings in 2007.
- A 37 year old Panamanian was found dead in a Mexico City hotel. One of the 78 capsules he had in his stomach had �exploded�, according to the Distrito Federal�s AG�s office. The man had been carrying 920 grams (almost one kilo) of cocaine in his body. He also had airline tickets showing he was headed for Holland.
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El Diario (Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua) 8/15/08

Short takes from the section on local state news:
- Victim in Chihuahua had killed two in Juarez
- Four assassinated near Parral
- New narcosign hung up in state�s capital
- One more �executed� in Chihuahua; five others forcibly carried off
- One killed and one house fired at in Nuevo Casas Grandes
And from the local city section: (posted 8/15/08 at 01:45 hrs.)
- An additional seven persons were murdered yesterday between afternoon and nighttime in different sections of Juarez, while three others were hospitalized and apparently two more were forcibly abducted.
- A new auto theft record was set in Juarez: 1,668 vehicles were stolen in July, 126 of them by violent means. The first seven months of the year now tally 9,086.
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Norte (Ciudad Juarez, Chih.) 8/15/08

The Chihuahua State Dep�t. of Justice reported that 143 persons were victims of homicide in Ciudad Juarez in the month of July. The year�s tally has now already reached 800.
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El Imparcial (Hermosillo, Sonora) 8/15/08

(Relevant portions of an op/column by Valdemar Jimenez titled �Pears from the Elm tree� (read: asking for the impossible) follow):
We have years now insisting that principally among the great many ills which afflict Mexico, there is corruption and impunity, rooted for years in the country. Up to now no one among those who must combat (those ills) has had the will and aim to try to eradicate them despite promises and commitments to do so.
In the difficult times we are living in because of the scourge of social insecurity generated by organized crime, mainly due to its kidnapping enterprise, the voices of society point out that it is precisely that overwhelming corruption and impunity which are the main causes of criminality that has proliferated so much in our country and has overtaken officialdom which has been infiltrated by the �narco� and organized crime.
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La Cronica de Hoy (Mexico City) 8/15/08

- When a �federal preventive police� group arrived in the city of Aguascalientes they found that six city police officers had suddenly disappeared and are nowhere to be found. The six are being investigated for �illicit conduct� and the city police chief is taking the opportunity to fire them.
- Mexico�s �PFP� (federal preventive police) is planning a nationwide work stoppage today (Fri.) to protest newly mandated work schedule conditions.
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La Jornada , Excelsior (both Mexico City) 8/15/08

Events reported in different areas of the state of Aguascalientes:
- Today at dawn an armed group took a police �commander� out of her house by force.
- The same as above happened to a judge.
- The chief of police at Tepezala has disappeared and his family has not heard from him since yesterday. His son was also taken out of his own home by force.
- There was a shootout last night at Rincon de Romos; three persons died, a soldier and two �hit men�
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Milenio (Mexico City) 8/15/08

Police are looking for a human body to match the head found on the street in Ecatepec (some 15 mi. NE of Mexico City). The head, with its eyes bound with tape, was left alongside a message on a tag-board.
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El Heraldo (Tegucigalpa, Honduras) 8/15/08

According to a consular assistance report, Mexican police officials kidnap Honduran, Guatemalan and Salvadoran migrants and then ask their relatives in the United States for ransom. State and city police, mainly in Veracruz, carry out those detentions of Central Americans en route to the U.S.; an extortion by telephone then follows for amounts ranging from 5 thousand to 50 thousand Mexican pesos. The detainees are held in houses and are not fed.
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La Prensa Grafica (San Salvador, El Salvador) 8/15/08

Kareh Pirozan, a 28 yr. old Iranian, is being �processed judicially� in El Salvador after he attempted to leave the country on a flight to Canada. He presented an Irish passport.
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Prensa Libre (Guatemala City, Guatemala) 8/15/08

- �Eleven persons died yesterday after having been victims of several bullet impacts in different violent acts in the departments of Guatemala, Jutiapa, Jalapa, Zacapa and Izabal.�
- (Following article transl. in full)
�Guatemalans in Rhode Island will celebrate the first festival in that state.�
The Guatemalans in Rhode Island will be able to enjoy a get together beginning at noon on September 7, when the First Guatemalan Festival of Rhode Island will be celebrated.
Edyn (sic) Fernandez, a member of the organizing committee, said to the daily �El Latino Expreso� �We want it to be a meeting of family get togetherness to which we will try to bring the largest number of Guatemalan families who live in the area.�
The idea of organizing the festival comes about so that the Guatemalan community in the U.S.A. can share and know what its necessities are, its legal status, its employment and living conditions and to see how they can work together to seek a solution to their problems, said Carlos Fernandez, president of the Guatemalan Committee of Rhode Island.
The invitation does not exclude latinos of other nationalities and entrance will be free for all. To get more information, those interested may communicate with Carlos Paiz at (401)451-4856.�
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- end of report

Canuck,

"Did the pilgrims arriving to Plymouth need visas?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Did the terrorists planning to blow up Toronto?

More "Family Values",.....

Good Lord,.....this is pretty sick

No,.....WAY sick




Link: http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_10215151

Palo Alto police arrest man in 2002 rape of 94-year-old woman
By Sean Webby
Mercury News
Article Last Updated: 08/15/2008 01:14:11 PM PDT


More than six years after they arrested the wrong man for beating and raping a 94-year-old woman, Palo Alto police believe they have now arrested the right one.
Roberto Cruz Recendes, 40, of Mexico is expected to be arraigned this afternoon in a Palo Alto courthouse, the Mercury News has learned.

Recendes, who was extradited from his native country back to Palo Alto, will be charged with sexual penetration against a victim's will by force and causing great bodily harm to an elderly person. Palo Alto police took custody of him in Los Angeles.

The woman will never know her alleged attacker was caught. She has since died.

It was possibly the culmination of one of the most controversial Peninsula criminal cases in recent history.

On May 10, 2002, the elderly woman was beaten and sexually assaulted in the darkness of her assisted-living apartment just off El Camino Real in Palo Alto.

Police, on the strength of what they felt were incriminating admissions and the poor alibi of drunken blackout, arrested Jorge Hernandez - a recent Gunn High School graduate with a baby face and no criminal record.

But on August 9, 2002, on the verge of a preliminary hearing, prosecutors dropped all charges against the 18-year-old saying DNA evidence showed that he didn't do it.

Recendes was convicted of domestic violence in Santa Clara County and sent to state prison in 2004, court documents said. He remains on parole for that crime, according to the


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state Department of Corrections, and has an active arrest warrant.

Good bunch, American Patrol,

.....good questions asked here, too, regarding the Boeing "Virtual Fence" fiasco.

Potato-Head's been real quiet on that abortion



Link: We Get E-Mail
August 16, 2008

E-mail to American Border Patrol.......

Glenn

I sent this to Duncan Hunter today:

The invasion continues

On August 13 an American Border Patrol volunteer was operating a camera on the border in Arizona. The volunteer was in Texas. He spotted suspicious activity on Border Road. This video shows what happened.

8/13/08 http://www.americanpatrol.com/WMV/080815-ABP.wmv
7/29/08 http://americanpatrol.com/WMV/080729-VV-Chase.wmv

Mr. Hunter,

I don't live in California, I'm actually in Texas operating ABP's camera's over the internet. As you can see from the video's above this is a growing problem. I have been using this system since April and what you are seeing is an every night occurrence. The video on 8/13/08 shows only 1 of the four groups that I spotted that evening, within a 45min time span.

Since I have been on this system I have watched drug loads and people coming into this country on a nightly basis. Glenn has put this system together for under $100,000, whereas the Boeing system cost $80 mil and didn't work.

What I would like to know is, is anyone going to be held accountable for the waste of tax payers dollars on a system that has been scraped?

Bob Parker

Duncan Hunter�s Home Page

http://www.house.gov/hunter/

This is just flat wierd,.......

Pork Burritos,.....

Link: http://www.landlinemag.com/Special_Reports/2008/Aug08/081508_LA_LongBeach.htm


SPECIAL REPORT: L.A., Long Beach OK grants for Mexican carriers Friday, Aug. 15, 2008 � The Ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach boast of bringing in 40 percent of the nation�s imported goods, and plans to cut emissions at each port have been highlighted in mainstream news programs and the cable TV show �America�s Port.�

A Land Line investigation into the ports� multibillion-dollar clean truck program, however, shows that the $2.2 billion program could pay for the replacement of trucks owned by Mexican trucking companies while it excludes U.S. trucks that run any miles outside of California.

The Ports of Long Beach and Los Angeles each have adopted clean trucks programs that phase out all pre-2007 emissions level trucks by December 2012, and phase in requirements that all trucks be operated by licensed concessionaires approved by the port. The Port of Los Angeles adopted further restrictions that eventually require all drivers to be company employees.

On page five of the Clean Trucks Program application � which features logos of each port � the form asks applicants to check one of three types of operating authority numbers.

MC for motor carrier
FF for freight forwarder
MX for Mexican companies with federal authority to operate beyond commercial zones


The MX stands for �carriers that are based in Mexico,� said Art Wong, a spokesman for the Port of Long Beach.

Theresa Adams-Lopez, a spokeswoman for the Port of Los Angeles, also confirmed the Mexican truck classification in a statement but said it was �merely an inquiry during the application process.�

�An MX-registered truck probably won�t be automatically excluded from getting grant funding,� Adams-Lopez said. �However, it will need to meet all the standard criteria. Be assured that no truck will be funded under either port�s funds unless it can be shown to meet all program requirements, as a legitimate frequent tripper and contributor to the ports� air quality programs.�

The potential for hundreds of millions of dollars to be given to companies domiciled in Mexico concerns the Missouri-based Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association, said Rick Craig, OOIDA�s director of regulatory affairs.

�It appears that certain Mexican trucking companies could meet the requirements of this program,� Craig said.

The truck replacement funding form requires applicants to be plated in California with no International Registration Plan license, and applicants must promise not to run any miles outside of the Golden State for at least seven years.

The ports plan to use container fees to finance a portion of the $2.2 billion truck replacement program, which can fund up to 80 percent of the cost of replacing the oldest trucks among the estimated 16,000 drayage trucks that operate daily in the ports.

The program, however, isn�t fully funded by container fees. The state of California is kicking in a large share of money needed for truck replacement.

Proposition 1B � which includes a total of $20 billion for transportation infrastructure and $1 billion specifically for air quality programs � also will fund $98 million worth of truck replacement funds at the Ports of Long Beach and Los Angeles during the 2007-2008 fiscal year.

Applicants can try to obtain grants for a portion of the cost of a new truck, or to a �subsidized lease or grant using a combination of port and Proposition 1B funds,� according to a joint announcement issued by the ports on Aug. 1.

Many Mexican carriers run trucks in California with license plates from Mexico and California, or with an International Registration Plan license plate, each examples that would prevent their application from being considered for the truck replacement program. Foreign owned and operated carriers also must deal with a variety of customs and immigration regulations.

Theoretically, a Mexican carrier could purchase a truck in the U.S., run only California miles and employ an American driver to meet immigration standards, Craig said.

Craig pointed out the drayage economy in Los Angeles and Long Beach has been profitable for port trucking companies but not for owner-operators, who can�t afford to buy their own new trucks or to maintain existing ones.

�If not for the perverted economic model that has developed in the ports, there would be no need to subsidize port replacement trucks in the first place,� Craig said. �Our people are complying without public funding.�

Joe Rajkovacz, OOIDA�s regulatory affairs specialist, has addressed the Port of Los Angeles Harbor Commission and spoken to several port officials about the Association�s concerns.

Rajkovacz said the American Trucking Association�s recent lawsuit seeking an injunction against the port�s clean truck program doesn�t argue against carriers receiving billions in truck replacement funds.

�The most onerous aspect of the clean truck program has always been the money giveaway,� Rajkovacz said. �Within the ATA lawsuit against the ports they profess to want less polluting trucks serving the ports, but welcome the financial windfall to meet clean truck program goals. That�s not the market capitalism they supposedly champion. That travesty is only compounded by giving money away to foreign-domiciled motor carriers when long haul truckers must comply on their own dime.�

� By Charlie Morasch, staff writer
[email protected]

A little "Vignette"

......the creep's lucky Dad didn't just waste him.

Link: http://www.guardonline.com/?q=node/47187

Fight erupts after father meets teenage daughter�s illegal pal
Published: Thursday, August 14, 2008
Thinking he was meeting a 15-year-old girl Friday morning, a 26-year-old Batesville man was surprised to find the girl�s father waiting for him.

Santiago Garcia, of Davis Lane Trailer Park, reportedly went to a location on Highway 233 outside Sulphur Rock around 7:30 a.m. for a rendezvous with the girl and ended up in a fight with her father, according to Independence County Deputy Dustin Robbins.

Robbins said he was first dispatched to the area regarding two men fighting at an accident scene.

�After speaking with the subjects for a few minutes, I found that the Hispanic male was at that location to meet with the white male�s 15-year-old daughter, but dad had learned of the situation and met him instead,� Robbins said.

According to Robbins, Garcia, dressed in lounge pants and a tank top shirt, first gave him a name of Diego Luna, the name of a famous Mexican actor, and said he was 23 years old. He also reportedly said he had a driver�s license, but not with him.

Garcia�s driver�s license was reportedly found while he was looking for insurance papers on his car. Robbins said that is when he learned that Garcia had given him an alias. When asked about the phony name, Garcia reportedly said that was the name the girl knew him by.

After placing Garcia under arrest, Robbins said an inventory of Garcia�s car turned up a roll of duct tape, and he had a condom in his wallet.

�I asked Garcia what he intended to do when he met the girl and he advised that they were just going to talk,� Robbins said.

At the county jail, Garcia was cited for criminal impersonation. He reportedly revealed that he was in the U.S. illegally, and an immigration hold was placed on him for federal agents.

The father of the girl was not charged in the incident.

In other reports filed with the Independence County Sheriff�s Office:

� A 17-year-old White County youth is facing escape and fleeing charges in Batesville after he fled from a White County deputy at the juvenile detention center around 8:30 Saturday night.

Police chased the handcuffed youth around the area of the juvenile center and Hidden Valley Trailer Park several times before he was recaptured and booked into the juvenile facility.

No one was injured in the incident.

� Kimberly D. Thomas, 34, of Concord, was arrested on charges of possession of marijuana and a smoking pipe following a traffic stop around 2:45 p.m. Friday.

Police were led to the items in a backpack, after detecting the odor of burned marijuana during the traffic stop.

Thomas has an Aug. 20 date to appear in district court.

� Martenus A. Mosley, 36, 390 Hawkins St., was arrested for possession of a controlled substance after he was stopped for speeding around 8 p.m. Friday.

Mosley reportedly was in possession of a prescription bottle, with no name on the label, that contained several Xanax pills, according to police.

He was given an Aug. 20 court date.

� A domestic disturbance at 18th and Porter streets, where a man was reportedly trying to drive away, dragging a woman by her leg, led to the driver�s arrest Sunday evening.

Edgar Hernandez Cruz, 32, of 7740 Batesville Blvd., was arrested for domestic battering, no proof of liability insurance and fictitious tags following the 8:15 p.m. incident.

� Three people were arrested early Sunday morning after they reportedly fled from police after they were caught spinning their truck tires on a Batesville street.

Arrested were 21-year-old Stephen Powell of Huntington, Texas, 19-year-old Logan Eaves of Rochelle, Texas, and Rodney Gilmer, 18, of Searcy.

Following a traffic stop, Powell and Eaves reportedly ran from police on foot and were captured at the rear of Heritage Propane company on North St. Louis Street.

Powell reportedly resisted arrest before he was taken into custody.

Bad choice for graffiti location,on a U.S. FLAG?

Go Joe, regardless,.....

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM8bQITQ30Q

Way more Maritime activity this year,

....or so it would seem



Link: http://www.sacbee.com/114/story/1161936.html

Boat carrying 16 Mexican nationals intercepted
The Associated Press
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IMPERIAL BEACH, Calif. -- Authorities say 16 Mexican nationals are in custody and face deportation after their small boat was intercepted at sea off Imperial Beach.

Border Patrol agent Mark Endicott says the 20-foot panga boat was discovered with its lights off just before 1 a.m. Friday, about 500 yards off the coast just north of the U.S.-Mexico border.

Endicott says the skiff tried to elude authorities, but it was "obviously overmatched" by vessels from the Customs and Border Protection.

Endicott says the 11 men and five women aboard the boat were taken into custody and face deportation. The boat was confiscated.

Information from: San Diego Union-Tribune http://www.signonsandiego.com

Jeez,.......Big Pot

Link: http://www.sbsun.com/sanbernardino/ci_10219890

Safer to grow here than at home maybe?


Link: http://www.sbsun.com/sanbernardino/ci_10219890


Deputies raid major pot farm nestled in SB Mountains
Stacia Glenn, Staff Writer
Article Launched: 08/15/2008 09:39:17 PM PDT



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It was a grueling climb down hundreds of feet of shale and rocks before the team reached its destination: ridges and ridges of marijuana spilling over 40 acres.

Chances are it's one of the biggest pot farms ever uncovered in the San Bernardino Mountains, authorities said.

For weeks, the San Bernardino County sheriff's Marijuana Eradication Team surveyed the marijuana operation nestled deep in a canyon off Highway 18 near the Arctic Circle.

They moved in Thursday morning but were still carrying marijuana plants out of the canyon late Friday.

"They're talking about 30,000 plants right now, but they're still counting," said sheriff's spokeswoman Tiffany Swantek. "It's quite significant."

A narcotics captain said the biggest bust he could recall in the mountains was 47,000 marijuana plants.

The team spent a half-hour hiking into the canyon about 9 a.m. Thursday until reaching the pot farmers' camp.

"They saw several subjects run from them, and they were able to catch five," said sheriff's Sgt. Dave Phelps.

The team arrested five men identified as being from Mexico: Huver Saustegui Salazar, 22; Raul Gomez Salazar, 20; Raul Cervantes Salazar, 19; Sergio Martinez Alvares, 24; and Alonso Sarmiento Gonzalez, 33.

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at West Valley Detention Center in Rancho Cucamonga.
U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency officials were assessing the farm on Friday to determine whether federal drug charges could be filed.

None of the men were armed when taken into custody, and no weapons have been found at the camp, authorities said.

At least four other pot farmers were able to escape, authorities said.

On Friday, the camouflage- suited MET officers diligently cut marijuana plants in the canyon and loaded them into waiting helicopters.

Curious drivers slowed down to watch as two helicopters hovered beside Highway 18, dumping large bundles of marijuana into black trailers.

Members of the team jumped up and down on the plants, trying to flatten them as much as possible. Within hours, two large trucks were full and waiting cart the plants away.

"This is going to be huge," Swantek said.

Crap,....what's this all about,....?



LINK: http://www.americanpatrol.com/

Free Pass?
Unimpeded by Border Patrol?

American Border Patrol -- August 17
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American Border Patrol's Operation Virtual Vigilance remotely operated camera system has aided in the apprehension of hundreds of illegal aliens. Last night was unusual, however. At about 8 pm (PDT) a group of about 25 people were spotted crossing the border. The Border Patrol was notified. The ABP volunteer (a retired Coast Guard Captain) was told the BP cameras couldn't spot the people so he described their position and tracked them for over twenty minutes, but the BP acted somewhat disinterested and the volunteer could see no evidence of a response. "This is very strange," the volunteer told Glenn Spencer of ABP. The group was last seen approaching Arizona Route 92, a favorite pickup point. (Video on Monday

Dunno' Ball,.....or New Yawk,


like the sound of this regardless,

Dunno' Spitzer,........either,..... was he Brain Damaged?

GTC

Link: http://www.lohud.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080816/NEWS01/808160356

Ball vows to reignite immigrants' driver's license issue
By Leah Rae
The Journal News � August 16, 2008

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WHITE PLAINS - It was many months ago that a media firestorm tanked then-Gov. Eliot Spitzer's plan to offer driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.

But Assemblyman Greg Ball yesterday promised to stir up the issue again by demanding a recall of certain driver's licenses issued to visa holders last year. Ball, a Republican from Patterson seeking re-election, renewed criticism over 23,000 licenses issued to U.S. visa holders without a "Temporary Visitor" stamp.


"We're going to hold a hearing next month to bring attention to this and hopefully create another firestorm on what is a real national security nightmare," he said during a press conference at the Department of Motor Vehicles office in White Plains. Raising the specter of a terrorist attack, he said, "If this loophole allows the people of New York to be harmed, the blood will be on the hands of this legislature and this governor."

The visitor stamp, introduced in January 2003, is in red letters and includes the expiration date of an applicant's visa. The license is good for eight years, regardless of the visa expiration date. The visa information can be updated for a $10 fee.

Gov. Spitzer's administration suspended that practice between Sept. 27 and Nov. 2 of last year while it moved toward offering licenses without regard to immigration status. After the state dropped its plan and reverted to the old rules, state Sen. Vincent Leibell, county clerks and others sounded alarms over the 23,000 documents lacking the visitor designation.

Commissioner David Swarts, in a letter to state Sen. John Flanagan in April, said he had no legal authority to revoke the licenses, because they were obtained lawfully with verified proof of identity. He did say the license holders in question would be flagged and required to update their immigration status if they come in for a new transaction.

"I believe that the threat of identity-related crimes or other fraudulent activity resulting from the use of such documents is minimal," Swarts wrote.

Ed Kowalski, who spoke alongside Ball yesterday as a representative of the group 9/11 Families for a Secure America, protested that none of the license applicants underwent criminal background checks, adding that it wasn't clear what identification they'd submitted. According to the DMV, criminal background checks are never conducted for license applicants and the identification requirements have not changed.

Kowalski said the fact remained that there may be license holders whose driver ID has outlasted their right to be in the United States.

Immigrant advocacy groups argue that the visitor stamp is useless and misleading. "It makes the driver's license look like some kind of a quasi-immigration-type document, which it's not," said Amy Sugimori of the New York City community organization La Fuente. "And the expiration date might be meaningless."

Advocates also argue that it's better for national security if more immigrants are licensed, identified and listed in the license database.

Ball vowed to press the issue. "Unfortunately, because the camera crews aren't in front of the state Capitol anymore, we don't see the political courage that we saw when the cameras were on," he said.

Reach Leah Rae at [email protected] or 914-694-3526.

Tension, and discontent, in Elsinore.

Strange vibes offa' this article,

....oh, .....California, where art thou.........?

Link: http://www.northcountytimes.com/art...re/z707467cfb3f2ba85882574a5007235bd.txt



LAKE ELSINORE: Immigrants' rights protesters march on City Hall
Protesters claim U.S. Border Patrol is breaking up families
By AARON CLAVERIE - Staff Writer | Saturday, August 16, 2008 5:57 PM PDT ∞

74 comment(s) Increase Font Decrease Font email this story print this story A vocal yet peaceful group of 50 to 60 Latino residents protested Friday a crackdown by the U.S. Border Patrol on day laborers in the Lake Elsinore area. The protesters marched early Friday morning from Elsinore Elementary School to Lake Elsinore City Hall and then to the Lake Elsinore Sheriff's Station. (Photo by Steve Thornton - Staff Photographer) Carmen Topete of Wildomar holds up a sign near Elsinore Elementary School during Friday's protest of the U. S. Border Patrol's policy concerning day laborers. (Photo by Steve Thornton - Staff Photographer) Friday's protest of the U. S. Border Patrol's policy ended peacefully at the Lake Elsinore Station of the Riverside County Sheriff's Department. LAKE ELSINORE ---- Protesters marched down Main Street earlier this week to decry an alleged crackdown on undocumented day laborers that, they said, is breaking up families and stoking fear within the city's Latino community.

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The protesters carried signs that read, "All men created equal," "We are humans not animals" and "No mas redadas" (No more raids).

"People are so afraid right now," said Alex Lopez, one of the protesters. "Parents are not taking their children to school because they are afraid they're going to be taken away."

Lopez said the alleged crackdown on day laborers, men in blue jeans and T-shirts or work shirts who gather on the city's street corners in the morning, was spurred by city officials who "don't want to see any Hispanics."

Mayor Daryl Hickman, contacted at home after the protest, said the issue has nothing to do with race.

"I think the U.S. Border Patrol is doing their job," he said.

Hickman said the city has traditionally allowed day laborers to gather on Spring Street, which runs parallel to Main Street.

Other cities in the region ---- and cities throughout the U.S. ---- have similar spots where day laborers are allowed to gather. When there are problems or complaints, as there were recently in Temecula and Vista, cities have passed measures or ordinances to curtail or regulate the activity.

In recent months, Hickman said, the day laborers in Lake Elsinore have been standing on the Main Street corners, the gateways that lead to the area's historical downtown.

Hickman said he worked with some of the city's downtown merchants and tried to get the men to move back to Spring Street, but nothing changed.

So Hickman said he contacted Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Temecula, and asked for some support.

"People were not coming downtown. We had to do something. Now we're seeing the results," he said.

The protest ---- organized by a group of area families, Lopez said ---- started in front of Elsinore Elementary School. From there, the group of about 60 people marched to City Hall, where they chanted, "We are immigrants, not terrorists" and "You need to stop it." The group then made its way to the city's police station at Graham Avenue and Poe Street.

Lopez said 250 undocumented immigrants have been deported in recent months from the Lake Elsinore area. A U.S. Border Patrol spokesman said there is no way to confirm the number Lopez provided because the agency does not break down arrests or deportations by area.

Nora Arviso, a Lake Elsinore resident, was a member of the group that gathered in front of City Hall. She said the city needs to support its people. "We pay all the taxes," she said.

City Manager Bob Brady briefly addressed the crowd, saying the city had nothing to do with U.S. Border Patrol activity.

"That's a lie," said David Lopez, one of the protesters. "I'm saying it's a lie because everyone knows it's a lie."

Lopez, who has lived in Lake Elsinore for four years, said it's plain to see that the city is working with the Border Patrol.

Contacted after the protest, Brady stressed the point he tried to get across earlier in the day.

"The Border Patrol is doing it as part of their job. They didn't notify the city of any additional activity. They didn't notify the Police Department of any additional activity," he said. "But if federal laws are being broken, the city is supportive of those laws being enforced."

As Hickman noted, Brady said the city has permitted day laborers to gather on Spring Street. He said the city has even placed trash cans near popular gathering spots on Spring to help keep the area cleaner.

"The city has not done anything to prohibit that from occurring. That hasn't changed, that has been that way for a number of years," he said. "The city is not trying to take work away from anyone."

U.S. Border Patrol Agent Alex Renteria, an agency spokesman in San Diego, said his office has been receiving calls from people claiming that the Border Patrol is staging raids in Lake Elsinore.

However, Renteria said there haven't been any raids.

"What we're doing is normal operations through our Murrieta station. Agents are working their routine patrols along the Interstate 15 corridor and the Highway 74 corridor," he said.

Addressing some of the other claims made by the protesters, Renteria said a complaint from a city official wouldn't trigger a response from the U.S. Border Patrol.

"We're a federal agency. If we do step up efforts, it's because Washington, D.C., tasked us to do that," he said.

As for the claims that there have been more agents in Lake Elsinore lately, Renteria said, "Nothing in that area has been beefed up. We've just gone through a huge hiring phase. There are a lot more staff, more agents at each station. That's what we're seeing. And we have more coming. We (the agency) (The agency) should be 18,000 strong by the end of this year."

About a half-hour before the protest started, a group of day laborers who had gathered at Main Street and Sumner Avenue talked about the situation in Lake Elsinore.

A man who identified himself as Melvin Perez, who said he was an undocumented worker from Guatemala, said the Border Patrol is a constant presence now.

"They come in the morning, they come at night," he said.

Perez was standing on the corner with six other men, guys dressed for eight hours of work that can net them about $80.

As they waited for work, a gray unmarked law enforcement vehicle pulled up to a stop sign at the other side of the intersection. One of the men asked, "La migra (Border Patrol)?" Another man answered, saying that it was only a "narco" (a narcotics officer).

When asked, all of the men said they were undocumented immigrants. One man, wearing a John Deere mesh baseball cap, said he was from Mexico. Another man, who said his name was Edgar Benjamin, said he was from Guatemala.

Some people who pick them up for landscaping work pay $7 or $8 an hour.

"For me, $10 (an hour) is good," Perez said.

While Perez waited for someone to stop, a white truck pulled up and two members of the group climbed inside.

Contact staff writer Aaron Claverie at (951) 676-4315, Ext. 2624, or [email protected].

Spendy,....this fencing,

Link: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5946837.html

Construction begins on San Diego border fence
By ELLIOT SPAGAT Associated Press
Aug. 15, 2008, 9:30PM
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Print Email Del.icio.usDiggTechnoratiYahoo! BuzzSAN DIEGO � Scrapers and bulldozers began filling a deep canyon Friday to make way for a border fence in the southwestern corner of the United States after 12 years of planning, environmental reviews and legal challenges.

The 3�-mile stretch extends from a state park on an oceanfront cliff through a canyon known as Smuggler's Gulch. The gorge was overrun by illegal immigrants until U.S. authorities launched a crackdown in the 1990s that pushed traffic to the remote mountains and deserts of California and Arizona.

At a cost of about $16 million a mile, the fence will be far more expensive than fences the U.S. government is building elsewhere along the nation's 1,952-mile border with Mexico. U.S. Customs and Border Protection said the average cost along the entire border is $2 million to $3 million a mile.

The stretch near San Diego will cost about $57 million under a contract awarded to Kiewit Corp. of Omaha, Neb., said James Swanson, a Border Patrol special operations supervisor.

The lion's share will pay for filling Smuggler's Gulch with nearly 1.9 million tons of dirt and for building a concrete culvert to handle rainfall flowing downhill from Tijuana, Mexico, Swanson said.

The border is currently marked by a decaying fence made of surplus Navy landing mats. Border Patrol agents swarm the area in jeeps and pickups as they wait for migrants in Tijuana to dash about 2 miles through trees to the closest patch of stores and homes.

It is a far cry from the early 1990s, when large groups blitzed across the border and easily overwhelmed the Border Patrol.

U.S. authorities insist new fencing is needed, despite an increase in patrols and objections from environmental groups who say the dirt shift threatens the Tijuana River estuary, home to more than 370 migratory and native birds.

"We're not seeing the thousands, the hundreds who streamed through in the past," said Mike Fisher, chief of the Border Patrol's San Diego sector. "However, it's still a vulnerability that's being exploited today."

Arrests along the stretch have doubled in the past year as the Border Patrol has added agents, said spokesman Alex Renteria. Arrests totaled 16,738 in the area from October through July, or about 60 a day, up from 7,944 the same period last year.

The project calls for a dirt access road and 15-foot steel mesh fence just north of the existing fence. Crews will also build a third fence about 10 feet high farther north and install lights.

"It's crazy," said Victor Clark Alfaro, director of the Binational Center for Human Rights in Tijuana. "I don't see the justification to spend $60 million on an area that's no longer an important crossing."

Clark predicted the new fence will reduce crossings to "almost zero" but inflict serious environmental damage.

The construction will help inch the Bush administration toward its pledge of 370 miles of pedestrian fencing and 300 miles of vehicle barriers on the U.S.-Mexico border by the end of this year. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told a House committee last month that the government was "on track" to hit that mark, though it had built only 182 miles of pedestrian fence and 153 miles of vehicle barriers as of July 11.

Congress approved the fencing in a 14-mile stretch from the Pacific Ocean in 1996, but the government faced stiff opposition over the westernmost piece. In 2004, the California Coastal Commission refused to grant permits, saying damage to sensitive habitats outweighed security benefits.

In 2005, Chertoff overrode the commission's objections � as well as a federal lawsuit by the Sierra Club � by exercising new powers to waive legal and regulatory challenges to build the fence. He has since used that power to clear the way for hundreds of miles of fencing in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.

According to local legend, Smuggler's Gulch got its name from alcohol that was smuggled into the U.S. during Prohibition. In Mexico, it is known as "Canon del Matadero" � or "Slaughterhouse Canyon" � supposedly because there was once a goat slaughterhouse nearby.

I'm going to have to get some blood pressure medication if I keep reading this stuff.


Millions going to Mexican trucking companies to come here and put American truckers out of buisness, that's just rich.

That's a good source,......I don't think they are over playing the problem,.........the HEALTH of our American trucking industry should be right at the forefront of priority,.....wouldn't you say?

So,....off kilter azz-backwards nonsense like this floats to the top.

and gets SCRUTINIZED.

God Bless 1A

GTC

Hopefully that outfit has the ear of a few Congressmen willing to raise a little hell.

This should cheer us up,.....

Capitalism at it's finest.

Ya' gotta' love this Country, ....No?

Link: http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_10220180

Recruiters fill the void after immigration raids
By CHRISTOPHER SHERMAN Associated Press Writer
Article Launched: 08/15/2008 11:03:26 PM MDT


McALLEN, Texas�The largest single-site workplace raid in U.S. history may have cost a kosher slaughterhouse in Iowa nearly half its employees, but it's been a boon to labor recruiters around the country.
After federal immigration agents raided Agriprocessors, Inc., and arrested nearly 400 undocumented workers, Gavino Bravo's phone started ringing.

Suddenly a steady�though mostly illegal�stream of workers willing to toil long hours in difficult conditions for low wages had dried up. And the northeast Iowa meatpacking plant needed hundreds of new employees. Fast.

From a cluttered office suite a block off Main Street in this city near the Mexican border, Bravo, his father Jose and their Bravo Labor Agency set out to fill the void. So far, they've recruited about 200 workers for Agriprocessors, sending them north on buses in batches of 10 to 15.

Bravo and other recruiters applaud the recent crackdowns by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents at jobsites in Iowa, Texas and elsewhere.

"That's great for us�they're going to have to come to us for workers," said Bravo, who is paid a flat fee�he would say how much�for each worker he recruits.

Under normal circumstances, meat processors and other large employers that rely on immigrant labor have little need for outside recruiters. Agriprocessors had established labor supply lines from Mexico, Guatemala and some Eastern European countries.

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employees come to Agriprocessors mainly through word-of-mouth," its company Web site says. "As a result, many of Agriprocessors' new employees found their jobs through family members already working for the company."
But with nearly half its workers jailed and awaiting deportation, those lines were suddenly severed.

"They're just trying to reconstruct the migrant labor supply that was blown to pieces by the raid," said Lourdes Gouveia, director of the Office of Latino/Latin American Studies of the Great Plains at the University of Nebraska-Omaha.

Gouveia, a sociology professor who has studied food processing plants and their ties to immigration, said that while some of the largest companies, such as Tyson Foods, recruit internally, more and more companies depend on outside agencies to refill the labor pool after a raid.

"It happens more with raids because they're desperate," Gouveia said.

The depth of that desperation was apparent in Amarillo earlier this summer, when a recruiter for the Iowa plant cruised homeless shelters and the bus station in search of potential hires.

Cathy Manes, director of employment services at Faith City Ministries in Amarillo, said the recruiter asked if he could discuss job opportunities at Agriprocessors following the shelter's regular chapel service.

Manes said she had questions about the company and safety and welfare of its workers and decided not to recommend the jobs to her clients.

"I didn't want to uproot someone and them be treated poorly," Manes said.

Jacobson Staffing, a temporary worker agency, took over recruitment for the Iowa plant in early June. Ryan Regenold, who oversees the Agriprocessors account for Jacobson, said the Amarillo recruiters were already working for Agriprocessors when Jacobson came on. He said in most cases the Amarillo recruits didn't pan out.

"They were people that came up here looking for a handout," said Ryan Regenold, who oversees the Agriprocessors account. The company offered them bus tickets back to Amarillo and most accepted, he said.

Things went badly for workers another staffing agency sent to Agriprocessors in May.

Ten days after sending about 150 workers to the plant, Labor Ready pulled them out citing concerns over safety conditions, said Stacey Burke, spokeswoman for Labor Ready's parent company, True Blue. She declined to detail the safety issues.

Regenold, however, said Agriprocessors decided to send the Labor Ready workers home after safety incidents.

The spring raid came amid investigations into labor, food safety and environmental violations at the plant. The company has been accused in recent years of mistreating animals and employees.

Labor officials have said they were investigating possible wage violations at the plant and the state has accused Agriprocessors of violating child labor laws.

Since June 2, Jacobson Staffing has supplied about 900 temporary workers to Agriprocessors, with about 480 still on the payroll as of Aug. 1, said Regenold.

Jacobson started with ads in local newspapers, exhausted the labor pool within driving distance and expanded the search, adding another recruiting firm and using four of its own recruiters.

Jacobson runs all of its potential hires through the government's E-Verify system to make sure applicants are in the U.S. legally and are able to work.

The search was easier for Bravo.

His agency ran ads in Spanish-language newspapers and on Mexican radio stations in the Rio Grande Valley and had little trouble finding workers though only about one quarter were skilled in meat processing. Bravo's simple ads only said that the jobs were out of state and the applicants must have permission to work in the U.S. Bravo does not use E-Verify, but requires applicants to show original documents indicating they can work legally in the U.S.

Bravo has been sending laborers to sugar cane fields in Louisiana, dairy farms in Maine and grain silos in South Dakota for years, Bravo said.

The $10 per hour starting wage offered by Agriprocessors is enough to get workers to relocate to Iowa, he said.

"There are not that many opportunities for work here and the opportunities there are, are low paying," Bravo said. A new pile of applications in Bravo's office from friends and relatives of the first batch of workers he sent to Iowa indicate that a new labor pipeline is already forming.

An attempt at comprehensive immigration reform failed late last year amid an immigration crackdown at work sites nationwide. In fiscal year 2007, Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents made 4,000 administrative arrests of workers who were in the country illegally and 863 criminal arrests for more serious offenses. The arrests were ten times the number made five years earlier.

Through the first eight months of this fiscal year, ICE has matched the criminal arrests from last year and made 2,900 administrative arrests.

Bravo said business has improved along with enforcement.

"I don't think they'll be able to go back to undocumented workers because they're being scrutinized so much," Bravo said.

"I knew sooner or later it was going to catch up with them," he said.

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Increased blood pressure warning..... extra security need at US hospital treating dropped off Mexicans :



U.S. Hospitals Take Mexican Drug Casualties

Sunday, August 17, 2008 5:56 PM

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Mexico's war on drugs is costing American taxpayers big bucks, as the U.S. government is bringing Mexican casualties from the conflict to hospitals north of the border and paying for medical treatment.

According to The Los Angeles Times, El Paso�s Thomason Hospital has treated 28 victims of the Mexican drug war this year, at a cost of about $1 million. The costs are not confined to medical treatment. With the border area becoming a battle zone where drug gangs, seeking to finish the job by pursuing their victims even into hospitals, Thomason has had on occasion been turned into an armed camp.

The Times reported that on three occasions this year, the hospital was placed under maximum security, with local law enforcement providing additional protection for patients, visitors, and employees at the hospital.

Being the only hospital within a 280-mile radius that offers offer state-of-the-art trauma care, Thomason, the Times reported, has become an unwilling treatment center of choice for law enforcement officials and others in the vicinity wounded in Mexico's bloody drug turf battles.

More than 2,000 people have been killed this year, and more than double that number in the 20 months since President Felipe Calderon began deploying 40,000 troops across the country to crack down on narcotics trafficking, the Times recalled.

"We have not accepted these patients. They are brought here. We are mandated by law, federal law, to provide care, a medical assessment and treatment," James Vilenti, Thomason hospital's president and CEO, told KFOX-TV.

Although Valenti said the Mexican government is reimbursing the hospital for most of the patients they send to the U.S., he called on the government for change.

"We need the help of all of our elected official on all levels of the United States to help turn the tide of violence in Mexico and the violence in Juarez. This is a trend that is disturbing. It is a trend that we need to bring attention to so we can get help from federal and local agencies," he said.

El Paso County Sheriff Santiago "Jimmy" Apodaca told the Times he does not like having to pay deputies overtime to guard the hospital when a patient requiring security is brought in. But he has to ensure the safety of El Paso, which was named the second-safest city in the U.S. last year in an independent ranking of cities with more than half a million people. He added that he sees little reason to worry that drug war violence would cross the Rio Grande. But he is taking no chances.

"Bordering on Juarez, the most violent city in Mexico and one of the most violent cities anywhere besides Iraq, you're always vigilant," Apodaca said. "But those people [hit men] down there know who they're after, and they know how to get them."

Valenti, Ron Acton, the hospital�s Board of Managers chairman, and County Commissioner Veronica Escobar have traveled to Washington, D.C., to meet with Rep. Silvestre Reyes, D-Texas, and leaders from Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Customs and Border Protection and the Department of Homeland Security to discuss the issue of people injured in Mexico crossing the border to receive treatment at the hospital, according to the El Paso Times.

"We've received 24 patients related to the violence and the drug cartel, and this is a disturbing trend," Valenti told the Times. "We received a commitment from Congressman Reyes to explore all options of funding to Thomason to offset these costs."

Taking the Wheels,

"We don' need no steenkin' liscence"



Link: http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008/08/16/news/sandiego/zd78aac47e2886daf882574a60074df68.txt

REGION: Impound policy draws controversy
Opinions vary on whether police must take cars from unlicensed drivers
By EDWARD SIFUENTES - Staff Writer | Saturday, August 16, 2008 5:12 PM PDT ∞

71 comment(s) Increase Font Decrease Font email this story print this story Escondido's controversial policy of impounding vehicles seized from unlicensed drivers for 30 days has its roots in the anti-illegal immigrant fervor of the mid-1990s, and it continues today, Latino activists say.

The city has impounded thousands of vehicles from people driving without a license in recent years, according to police records. City officials say they are simply implementing a state law, which they say mandates that the vehicles be impounded for one month.

"We enforce the law as it is written," said Michael McGuinness, Escondido's assistant city attorney.

The law, California Vehicle Code section 14602.6, says that if a police officer determines a person is driving without a license, or the license was revoked or suspended, the person's vehicle "shall be impounded for 30 days."

However, there is disagreement on the interpretation of the law.

The state Legislative counsel said in a 2007 opinion that simply driving without a license was not reason enough to impound a vehicle.

Escondido has strictly enforced the law in recent years through police checkpoints and on routine patrols. Because of those efforts, the city was named in a lawsuit filed by Los Angeles-based civil rights attorneys who allege that the policy is unconstitutional.

Bill Flores, a spokesman for El Grupo, an umbrella group for local civil rights groups, said the policy is also discriminatory.

"They are doing this in the larger context of anti-immigrant and anti-Latino politics," Flores said.

There is no demographic analysis available to document whether most of the people whose cars are impounded are Latino.

The impound law was signed into law in 1994 by then-Gov. Pete Wilson in 1994; it took effect in January 1995.

Nativo Lopez, a prominent Los Angeles-based Latino activist, said that at the time, Wilson was stirring anti-illegal immigrant sentiment among state voters.

Wilson championed the controversial Proposition 187, a 1994 voter-approved initiative that eliminated most state-funded benefits for illegal immigrants, including public education for illegal immigrants' children.

Much of Prop. 187 was later ruled unconstitutional by the courts. But many other laws targeting illegal immigrants enacted by Wilson remain on the books, including a 1994 law barring undocumented immigrants from getting California driver's licenses.

"It's a shame that with all the Latinos elected to office, we haven't been able to turn a corner and turn our back on that legacy," Lopez said Friday.

Lopez's group, the Mexican American Political Association, was one of the main supporters of a 2005 bill that would have overturned the 30-day mandatory impound law.

The measure, Senate Bill 591, was introduced by Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles. A spokeswoman for Cedillo said the senator did not push the bill through because it was considered too politically controversial.

Lopez said he believed that a federal court ruling that year would have made the measure unnecessary, anyway. But he was wrong; many cities continue to enforce it, he said.

In 2005, the 9th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals ruled that towing a vehicle merely because a driver is unlicensed is an unreasonable seizure absent a showing that the vehicle posed a threat to public safety.

Despite the ruling, Escondido is only one of many cities around the state strictly enforcing the law.

The lawsuit filed on behalf of about 20 plaintiffs, including two people whose cars were impounded by Escondido police, names Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, Riverside and Los Angeles counties and the cities of Riverside, Maywood and Los Angeles as defendants.

McGuinness said the ruling was based on an Oregon law and not the California law.

The lawsuit has strong opposition, even from some unlikely sources. Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and Los Angeles City Attorney Rocky Delgadillo, both of whom are among the most prominent Latino elected officials in the state, support the impound policy.

Assemblyman Martin Garrick, R-Carlsbad, whose district includes Escondido, said Friday that he also supports the law.

But he added that he does not believe the law mandates that police officers impound the vehicles. Garrick said the law gives the officer discretion on whether to seize the vehicle.

"I think the law is just and correct," he said. "Driving is a privilege, not a right."

And for ya'll in the Peach State ( and close by)

......covert ops recruitment

Link: http://www.thedustininmansociety.com/blog/?p=1753

August 16, 2008
Attend the Southeastern open borders summit on amnesty-again in Atlanta and educate your fellow Americans on what you see and hear! WE NEED HELP!
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Attend the Southeastern open borders summit on amnesty-again in Atlanta and educate your fellow Americans on what you see and hear! WE NEED HELP!

What you can do in Atlanta next month to help stop amnesty�

NEVER FORGET: THE TERM �COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM� IS CODE FOR AMNESTY AND OPEN BORDERS! THE PLAN FROM THE COALITION OF THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND THE FAR LEFT IS TO LEGALIZE THE MORE THAN 20 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS AND OPEN OUR BORDERS TO THE FREE FLOW OF PEOPLE - AND ERASE ANY SEMBLANCE OF A SOVEREIGN NATION WITH A COMMON LANGUAGE.

To the constant questions that come here from Americans who had enough ( � D.A. -What can I do�? ): Here is something that you can do if you live anywhere near Atlanta:

RSVP to the open borders lobby and attend the upcoming September 11, 2008 seminar on the plan to force another amnesty through Congress next year! We need people to attend this meeting to not only take notes and report what they hear and see, but to hear for themselves the clear agenda of the business lobby in its effort to convince America that there are jobs Americans will not do and that massive immigration and another amnesty is good for our nation. It is not, it would be the end of our beloved country.

What: Daylong strategy session on amnesty.
8:00 AM to 3:00 PM
When: Thursday, Sept. 11, 2008
Where: Marriott Hotel - Atlanta Airport (HERE)
Who is hosting: �Immigration Works USA see their site HERE

AMNESTY DID NOT WORK IN 1986 AND IT WILL NOT WORK IN 2009!

Below is part of the text of the invitation sent out by Tamar Jacoby and the other sell-outs to open borders:

�It�s time to take our efforts to the next level. For nearly two years now, employers of immigrant workers and those who represent them have been coming together in coalitions across the Southeast to work for better immigration law. They�ve won some critical battles, convincing lawmakers in several states to pass pragmatic enforcement measures that business owners can live with. But the fight is far from over.

What�s needed now: a plan for the next round. Ad hoc coalitions need to consolidate. Groups focused till now on state legislative battles need to look ahead to the fight in Washington. Coalitions made up of �grasstops� leaders need to start recruiting at the grassroots � reaching out to ordinary business owners and enlisting them to contact their members of Congress. And together we need to launch a campaign to refocus Congress on fixing the immigration system.

Come to Atlanta to plan. Come to Atlanta to build. Come to Atlanta to plot strategy with likeminded others from across the Southeast.�

Read the entire invitation HERE

We need polite well-dressed people with a professional attitude to quietly attend - you cannot go unless you RSVP to these people and arrange for attendance. If you can, consider taking take an audio recording device. When you send your RSVP, you will get back an e-mail asking your name and organization or business and number in your party - send an honest reply and take a friend. I have replied and am planning on attending - but they may not let me in. We need twenty - thirty people to attend this meeting for a variety of reasons.

I cannot tell you how important this is, please try to take a day from your lives and go to this event!

The open borders crowd reads our alerts and will be warning the hosts of our attendance, but they will have no way of knowing who is on their side and who isn�t if it is played smartly and quietly at the event. PLEASE BE POLITE AND UN-OBTRUSIVE!

I am in hopes that those of you who will plan to attend will e-mail me back and let me know you are going. Afterwards, we will be comparing notes and will make the agenda of the meeting very public, but�I NEED YOUR HELP!

I urge you to watch this video from my friend Roy Beck before you decide on not- going!

MORE on the huge and well-funded, never-ending effort at amnesty HERE

It's been this way for years with illegals driving. Some thought many of these states were wrong, when they let illegals take the written test in Spanish. My state did it, and their concept was that they were going to drive no matter what, at least make certain that they could pass the test.

They were also issued ID (the license) for the first time you could track them, and tell who was who. I understand from the patrol folks in my community, that they're seeing less driving w/o a license and insurance violations, then in years past.

We don't have a veh. seizure law for, driving w/o a license or driving while suspended or *revoked,(*if the revocation is for DUI, you can seize veh, other reasons, no). The only other seizure of veh's are for DUI or drug (felony) offenses.

" I understand from the patrol folks in my community, that they're seeing less driving w/o a license and insurance violations, then in years past."


YES.............and a lot more VOTING, as well,.......


WTH, ....they're just poor downtroddens, anyhoo. Why should citizenship stand in the way of driving or voting,.....?

GTC

From Chuck Norris,

....this is a good piece of writing

Link: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=72657

Butting heads at the border

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� 2008

Last week a 10-year U.S. Border Patrol veteran shot and wounded a man in the left buttocks who assaulted agents at a violent stretch of the U.S.-Mexico border. Despite that the man was among a group who were trying to illegally enter the United States and were throwing rocks and concrete chunks at agents, officials at the Mexican consulate in San Diego are criticizing the agent and demanding the U.S. conduct a full investigation.

The incident occurred after one agent witnessed and called for backup because three to four illegals were trying to scale the border fence. So four to six more agents responded by using a gate in the fence to get to its south side � still within the U.S. The agents fired pepper balls and tear gas to disperse a group of about seven to 15 people, and most fled. Two of the suspects, however, stayed and threw rocks and concrete chunks toward the Border Patrol agents. Fearing for his safety, one agent fired two rounds from his rifle from about 50 feet away, striking 22-year-old Edgar Israel Ortega Chavez, who then was standing on Mexican soil.

Consul General Remedios G�mez Arnau responded, "Any kind of shooting toward Mexican territory is rejected by the Mexican government. They should have waited for response of the Mexican authorities."

Are you kidding me? Do I smell another Compean and Ramos case in the making? Do illegals think border crossing is nothing more than a game of cat and mouse? Do Mexican officials think we're only playing "rocks, scissors and paper" at the borders? When will we finally draw a line in the sand and stop this insanity at our nation's boundaries? When will we back our agents and their Bill of Rights? When will we give them the complete resources, permissions and support they need to fully carry out their duties?

When Supervisory Border Patrol Agent Daryl Reed reports that there have been 330 assaults on agents already this year, compared with 254 reported incidents in 2007, it's time for our government to ante up and better protect and secure our borders and agents!

Border security is of course so critical because it is about far more than just illegal immigrants. It affects the transport of drugs, gangs (like MS-13), terrorism and even affects issues of sovereignty. That is why I address our border troubles as one of eight major problems threatening America most in my upcoming (Sept. 7 release) book, "Black Belt Patriotism" (Regnery publishing), which is now available for pre-order at Amazon. In the book I give my critique of what is destroying our country, and offer my solutions for rebuilding America and restoring the American dream. In particular, I lean heavily upon our founders' work and wisdom, looking to them for their possible solutions to our present problems.

Here's a first-seen glimpse from the chapter, "Secure and protect our borders," in which I also give (but not here) my solutions to deal with the 12 million or so illegal immigrants already residing in America:

A few years ago I had the opportunity to fly along America's borders with my good friend John Hensley, who was the assistant commissioner of U.S. Customs. We flew on a Black Hawk helicopter and checked out locations along the California border, where there was heavy traffic of drug dealers and illegal aliens coming into the United States from Mexico.
As we were flying over the desert, we landed in the middle of nowhere. We stepped out of the helicopter and John asked me, "What do you see?" I replied, "Absolutely nothing but desert." As soon as I said that, up popped U.S. border agents, who were hiding in holes covered by beige tarps that blended in with the terrain. They were waiting for illegal traffic trying to sneak into our country. I thought, what dedication this takes to hide out here in this intense heat for hours at a time � just waiting.

There's no doubt that Americans possess the resources and passion to close off our borders and ports from illegal immigration and contraband. If we can overthrow another country, we ought to be able to protect our own. Yet to this day, our national borders and ports of entry are like lattice work with plenty of holes through which illegals now come in.

I don't lay the blame on our dedicated border agents. But I do blame an overly bureaucratic government that still has not given agents the proper resources and permissions they need to get their job done. I also blame government for undermining national security by being more concerned with global commerce than national sovereignty. They would rather please the international masses than enforce our own laws.

Let's ask ourselves, why is Congress not securing our borders? Could it be they have greater global goals that will ultimately dissolve this Union? Whether intentionally or not, government has failed for decades to secure the borders. It is up to us to make sure it gets done, by taking several points of action that I'll be outlining in this chapter. The time is now. And if we don't do our part, America as we know it will dissolve like a sugar cube in coffee. From the coastland to the heartland, we will lose our distinctions and no longer even recognize our country. As President Ronald Reagan said, "A nation without borders is not a nation."

So what do you do, let the unlicensed driver drive the car away, or leave it there so that you can be sued with the automobile is vandalized or stolen.

The whole premise pisses me off, anyone driving without a license knows they are driving illegally.

I wish we could can the 9th circuit, they have done more harm to California than is imaginable.

I guess we should feel thankful that "The Bulk of the fighting" will be done in Mexico..................?!

Other than that one inane gem,........a decent synopsis,


and Mex. does love it's outlaw heroes.

Link: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/world/5947100.html

Drug cartels from Mexico invading Middle America
Ohio cities prove fertile ground for distribution hubs
By JEREMY SCHWARTZ Cox News Service
Aug. 16, 2008, 5:40PM
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The situation in Ohio reflects a larger national trend: U.S. officials say Mexican cartels operate in at least 195 U.S. cities and dominate the drug trade in every region of the country except for isolated pockets like the Northeast and South Florida.
MEXICO CITY � Powerful and well-organized Mexican drug trafficking groups have seized control of drug distribution throughout Ohio, flooded local markets with increasingly cheap heroin and are using Dayton as a distribution hub for southwestern Ohio and parts of Indiana, local and federal U.S. drug enforcement officials say.

According to an April report by the U.S. Department of Justice's National Drug Intelligence Center, groups connected with the Federation cartel, one of Mexico's two dominant cartels, control distribution in and around Dayton.

The Juarez Cartel, once Mexico's most powerful cartel but significantly weakened in recent years, operates in Hamilton County, according to the report.

"They are very well trained, very well schooled," said John Postlethwaite, coordinator of the Ohio HIDTA, a joint federal, state and local task force, of the Mexican trafficking groups. "It's become a lot harder than it used to be."


Spike in heroin
Drug enforcement officials blame the Mexican traffickers for an alarming spike in the availability of heroin, saying prices have fallen precipitously recently, from about $5,000 per ounce a few years ago to about $1,000 per ounce.

Officials say heroin use has increased, a trend they expect to continue.

A May report by the U.S. Justice Department on drug activity in Ohio predicts heroin abuse will increase among white, suburban users.

"The number of heroin abusers will very likely grow as more abusers of prescription opioids switch to heroin in the face of increasing Mexican heroin availability throughout the region," the report reads.

It goes on to say that in Dayton, Mexican traffickers have replaced African-American gangs as the primary wholesale distributors of cocaine, marijuana and heroin.

Ohio officials say Mexican groups increasingly are bypassing traditional distribution hubs like Chicago and Detroit and moving drugs directly from the border to Ohio cities.

Todd Spradling, the resident agent in charge of the Dayton DEA office, said that smaller cities like Dayton and Columbus have become more attractive to trafficking organizations. "A lot of the organizations have shifted from larger cities to smaller cities to avoid detection," he said.


Mexican cartels dominate
In the last decade, Mexican cartels have surpassed Colombian traffickers as the ascendant force in the hemisphere: as they have moved into the United States they have also taken control of Central American trafficking routes and now dominate the market in South American countries like Peru, according to law enforcement officials.

"Their idea is to control the whole economic process of production and distribution," said Georgina Sanchez, an independent security consultant in Mexico and executive director of a public safety think tank.

In Dayton, officials say Mexican traffickers are connected to the Federation, a loose group of trafficking organizations based in the state of Sinaloa. The Federation has fought a brutal, three-year war with its primary rival � the Gulf Cartel � for control of smuggling routes to the United States.

Its leader is Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, Mexico's most notorious drug capo, who attained an almost mythical stature after escaping from a federal prison in 2001. In recent months, the Federation, which officials say controls Pacific smuggling routes from Central America, has been torn apart by an internal feud that officials say is responsible for a spike in violence in Sinaloa.

Since Mexican President Felipe Calderon directed the Mexican military to confront the cartels in 2006, nearly 7,000 people, including hundreds of Mexican police and officials, have been killed in the drug violence.


Very organized
Ricardo Ravelo, the author of several books on Mexican cartels and an investigative reporter for Proceso magazine in Mexico, said the Federation is well organized on the American side of the border. "I'm talking about distribution as well as the collection of profits, money laundering and smuggling money back to Mexico," he said.

Analysts fear the cartels will bring peripheral cash-generating crime like kidnapping, extortion and protection rackets, problems that are all too common in Mexico.

"The U.S. will begin to see a little of the same conflict that is happening in Mexico," Sanchez said. "If (the cartels) already have methods, and ways of diversifying into other crimes, it's normal that they won't stop at the border."

While some cartel violence has spilled across the border, mostly along the border and in large cities like Dallas and Atlanta, experts say it's unlikely the U.S. will see the large-scale drug wars that have paralyzed various Mexican cities and forced Calderon to send about 25,000 federal troops to confront the cartels.

Carlos Humberto Toledo, a military affairs expert in Mexico City, predicted the cartels will continue to fight their major battles within Mexico.

Some of the comments on this link are almost unbelievable,

....more BPM ( Blood Pressure Meds)territory, for sure.

worth suffering through regardless,.....a good look at ,

....the "Bleeding Heart"

Watched the choppers,in orbit over this monkeyshines,.....

I'm just North of the Coranado

Link: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/08/18/20080818migrants-caught0818-ON.html

Border agents catch 62 illegal immigrants
46 commentsAug. 18, 2008 02:11 PM
Associated Press
TUCSON - U.S. Border Patrol agents working near Naco have caught a large group of illegal immigrants.

Agents were patrolling west of the port of entry at Naco on Saturday when they discovered a series of footprints. That led them to believe that a group comprised of a large number of people had crossed into the country from Mexico.

Spokesman Rob Daniels said Monday that the agents tracked the footprints and came across 62 illegal immigrants in the Coronado National Memorial.
He says some people believed to be guides broke off and fled back into Mexico.

Most of the group stayed in place and were taken into custody, with 55 of them processed for repatriation to Mexico.

Crap,.....we talk about "Cold War"

.....so WTF is this?

Link: http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_10232557

Cartels, Mexican army blamed for interference
By Diana Washington Valdez / El Paso Times
Article Launched: 08/18/2008 12:00:00 AM MDT


El Paso police Officer Melody Castro communicated with police dispatch Friday while patrolling Central El Paso. Police officials say drug cartels and the Mexican military are interrupting their communications. (Mark Lambie / El Paso Times)
Related: Violence claims 800
Related: Gunmen kill at least 14 at benefit race
More: For past stories on Juarez crisis
EL PASO -- The Mexican army and drug cartel operatives are among the likely sources of recent interference with El Paso police communications and the Digital El Paso wireless network, city officials said.

"The increased interference that resulted in dead zones or dead spots coincided with the arrival of the Mexican army in Ju�rez," said Gary Gordier, the city's information technology director. "They were affecting police and other emergency communications."

Dead zones occur when radio messages cannot be sent or received due to radio frequency interference.

The police, Sheriff's Office, Fire Department and Emergency Medical Services operate on frequencies in the 800 megahertz spectrum, but apparently, other radio operators in Ju�rez also were using the same spectrum.

"The drug cartel is probably the other source causing interference on the 800 spectrum, which is used in the United States for public safety communications," Gordier said.

And, just as the radio frequency


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interference became an issue, usage of the Digital El Paso wireless network began to drop.
Southwest city Rep. Beto O'Rourke said members of the Chihuahuita Neighborhood Association told him they were having trouble with the network.

Users complained the system was too slow and others couldn't get on at all.

"The Information Technology Department believed the (Digital El Paso) network was having problems from the stepped-up federal and narco trafficking communications across the border. Their networks were competing with ours," O'Rourke said.

Digital El Paso is a collaborative of the city, county and other public entities and the private sector that provides a free wireless access network in Central El Paso.

"It's mission-critical to be able to communicate with the fire and (ambulance) units, especially when there's an incident," said Fire Communications Lt. Victor Arreola, who's aware of the dead spots. "(The Information Technology Department) has been doing surveys to find the sources of the interference."

Arreola said the center has a backup system it can use in case of serious interference.

Beginning in April, about 2,000 Mexican soldiers and 500 federal officers were deployed to Chihuahua state, most of them to Ju�rez, to crack down on the violence suspected to be linked to warring drug cartels.

As a result, the volume of communications at the border by radio, cell phones and Internet increased dramatically in a short time.

Alleged drug cartel operatives also launched numerous YouTube and other Internet videos, to boast of their activities in Chihuahua state, convey threats, report murders and accuse officials of protecting rival drug dealers.

One such Internet video has received more than 320,000 hits and posted more than 1,000 comments. Such sites, with images and music, hog up a lot of bandwidth, and can be administered and updated from both sides of the border.

After investigating, the city's Information Technology Department discovered the number of "rogue" digital sites (also called "hot spots") in Central El Paso had increased from 75 to 600 in less than two months.

Rogue sites are operators -- individuals, businesses or other entities -- that broadcast using a WiFi antenna.

Some of the problems with the Digital El Paso network were traced to certain cell- phone providers, who after consultations with their representatives, agreed to adjust their antennas.

The Federal Communications Commission got involved in the cross-border issues and contacted its Mexican counterparts, who also agreed to make changes.

However, neither the FCC nor Mexican authorities could do anything about clandestine operators.

In Ju�rez, police dispatchers were forced to change radio frequencies after alleged drug cartel operatives kept breaking into their communications with threats and taunts.

Gordier said El Paso's secure police communications cannot be compromised because they are encrypted; however, anyone with a scanner can listen to most public dispatch communications.

Emergency officials in New Mexico also have reported problems. According to the Web site www.emsresponder.com, "New Mexico EMS departments are facing communications issues that few others could imagine: radio interference from Mexican taxicabs."

Several years ago, radio antennas traced to Ju�rez were blamed for remote-controlled garage doors in El Paso opening by themselves.

City officials said the sudden surge in radio and wireless usage has raised the level of El Paso's "noise floor" or the total electronic signals from all sources that contribute to radio frequency interference.

"It a sign of our times and of our border location," Gordier said.

He said most of the Digital El Paso issues were solved, "and there's been progress on the radio frequency interference."

Diana Washington Valdez may be reached at dvaldez@elpasotimes

Sounds like an interesting event,......




Link: "Border Truth USA" to Screen Thursday
ABP To Make Presentation at Security Convention

American Patrol Report -- August 18
Attend this conference! Call (303) 520-3347

Numerous federal, state, and local legislators, veterans, citizens, and nationally-recognized experts will gather at a three-day conference on National Security to be held beginning Thursday in Denver.
Sponsored by the Fire Coalition and others, the conference will include a presentation by American Border Patrol. It will include the premiere of "Border Truth USA," a High Definition video tour of the border using aerial video footage shot in late July.
ABP's Operation Virtual Vigilance will be also be demonstrated as two border camera systems are controlled over the Internet. The presentation will be made by Glenn Spencer, aided by Mike Christie and Melissa Jaramillo of ABP.
For information, call 303-520-3347.

Phew,....this is pretty awful,....

I mean, what do you say to this ?

43 dead in three days as Mexico violence escalates Mon Aug 18, 7:44 PM ET



CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico (AFP) - At least 43 people died in violent attacks in the last three days in the northern Mexico state of Chihuahua, the scene of ongoing drug gang turf wars, police said Monday.

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Thirteen males, aged between 18 and 41, died in separate attacks on Monday, mostly in the flashpoint city of Ciudad Juarez on the US border, local police said.

Assassins killed nine people overnight Sunday in the city, following the slaying of 21 people the previous night, including 14 in a massacre at a family gathering in the western Chihuahua town of Creel.

Violence has escalated throughout the country since President Felipe Calderon, who took office at the end of 2006, launched a military crackdown on drug trafficking.

A baby was one of the 14 murdered in Saturday's shooting in Creel, believed to be part of a drug gang feud.

"Armed men, travelling in at least three vans and carrying heavy-duty weapons, fired on some 20 people who were leaving the town's dance hall," local police said.

Creel, in the Sierra Tarahumara mountains near Mexico's Copper Canyon, is on the main drug route from Mexico to the United States, but had previously registered only one violent death this year.

The assassins used AK-47 rifles, often used by drug gang hitmen, but authorities gave no motive for the crime.

Seven others were killed overnight Saturday, including five in Ciudad Juarez, one in the state capital Chihuahua and another in the town of Guadalupe.

Ciudad Juarez -- across the Rio Grande from El Paso, Texas -- has the highest murder toll of the country this year, with some 800 killed, according to an AFP count.

The Juarez drug cartel is fighting a turf war for control of Chihuahua state and its key drug routes to the United States with the Sinaloa cartel, from the neighboring state further south.

More than 3,000 families have fled Ciudad Juarez for the United States this year, a border expert said last week, following a deadly attack on a mass in a drug rehabilitation center in which gunmen killed nine people.

Drug-related violence throughout Mexico has killed 2,682 people since the start of the year -- nine more than in all of 2007 -- with nearly half in Chihuahua state, daily El Universal reported Saturday.

Federal authorities have deployed more than 36,000 soldiers across the country since early 2007, including 2,500 in Ciudad Juarez, as part of efforts to combat drug trafficking and related violence.

The US government has approved a 1.6-billion-dollar, three-year package of anti-drug assistance to Mexico, Central America and the Caribbean known as the Merida Initiative, a large part of which is expected to strengthen Calderon's efforts.

Believe me there's probably a LOT more out there "discovery pending"

......seems that keeping track of count is becoming difficult


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Sixteen bodies or twelve bodies? Who do you believe?


The article, linked below, from the Arizona Daily Star concerning the finding of two bodies in Cochise County says that those two brought the total for the county to 14 for the year.


The article from the Sierra Vista Herald, linked below, outlining those two plus two more says the total including all four is 12.


So is it sixteen or twelve? This goes to evaluating the credibility of the information released by the Cochise County Sheriff�s Department and just how aware they are of the activities in the county.


Arizona Daily Star Sierra Vista Herald

Giving Mexico and many other Central American countries money to fight drugs is a waste, cause it'll be wasted on other things. I've heard of rebuilt UH-1 Hueys with sprayers to spray herbicide on marijuana, come out of the US Army Aviation Maintenance Facility, in Corpus Christi, TX. that were to be given to the Mex. Govt. This was told to me by US Army personnel assigned to the facility.

The aircraft went to the Mex. Govt. the aircraft came up missing, they were sold by there own currupt govt. officials. This was one of the issues that the DEA agent that was kidnapped and murdered was reporting back to WA. DC.

" Apparently seeking the brighter side of the wave of violence that has rocked the state of Sinaloa, El Debate notes that the funeral business has had a rise in profits of some 35% due to the increase in murders."

...................................??!!

"Canc�n, Quintana Roo has fallen into the hands of the Russian Mafia and Cuban-Americans [sometimes described as the Miami Mafia]. The Cubans deal mainly in human smuggling and the Russians in arms and prostitution."

......Yup, ain't that just ducky

GTC

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Link: http://m3report.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/mexican-citizens-feeling-the-insecurities-of-crime/


Mexico - the �king� of kidnappings!Mexican citizens feeling the insecurities of crime
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Saturday, 8/16/08


El Universal (Mexico City) 8/16/08
Several articles focused on resolving the national feeling of insecurity and the government�s proposed measures to combat organized crime, especially the widespread kidnapping for ransom.
- C�sar Camacho Quiroz (PRI party), president of the Justice Commission, said that the problem of insecurityy in Mexico will not be resolved by stiffer penalties but by eradicating impunity, as only 2 of 10 crimes are reported.
- Editorial excerpt: The cry of �Ya basta! (Enough!) against insecurity is gaining support throughout the country. The organization, Mexico United against Crime, has received strong support to is call for authorities at all levels to coordinate efforts to confront crime.
- A shootout between police and robbers in a gambling hall in Chetumal, Quintana Roo left one dead , four arrested and a hostage wounded. One of those arrested was an ex-policeman
- The vice-president of a national employers group announced that the popular resort town of Canc�n, Quintana Roo has fallen into the hands of the Russian Mafia and Cuban-Americans [sometimes described as the Miami Mafia]. The Cubans deal mainly in human smuggling and the Russians in arms and prostitution.
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Prensa Libre ( Guatemala City, Guat.) 8/16/08
- A radio station in Chiquimula, Guatemala, is airing this ad: � We offer trips to the north, in quality buses, and it is only necessary to walk one hour at the border with Mexico. We take you only if you have relatives in the U.S., but we guarantee your arrival. � The people traffickers then �shamelessly� furnish their phone number; �due to the fact that in the eastern portion of the country there is great interest in emigration, people go for whatever is available.� The radio station manager said that the ads are by a well known party who also uses other radio stations. �Other small ads are placed in different printed media, many times disguised as excursions or vacations.� Donald Gonzalez, an Immigration spokesman, said �This is nothing new, but the only thing these souces haven�t yet said is �I�m a coyote� �
- A wave of violence caused ten homicides in the capital city & outlying areas, including that of two Mexicans. Most events involved gunfire.
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El Comercio, Correo, and RP (all in Lima, Peru 8/16/0
These sources carried a curious report about a couple of sacks being found dumped out on the street in an industrial area of Callao, the seaport of Lima. The contents : one hundred fourteen 60 mm. mortar shells, of Russian manufacture, some of them in perfect condition. No one can figure out how or why they ended up there. The finder called police; the police called the army; the army took them away. Rechecking the story later, the portion about Russian manufacture had been deleted, but was in at least one source originally. Some reports called them �war grenades� and added a comment by a military person in Peru stating that the shells have a destructive radius of 40 meters.
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Sunday, 8/17/08
El Debate (Sinaloa) 8/17/08
- As part of Joint Operation Culiac�n-Navolato, the Mexican military, searching an uninhabited house in Culiac�n, discovered and seized an arsenal consisting of 8 rifles, 18 pistols, 21 ammo clips for pistols, 9 ammo clips for AK-47s, R-15s and M-16s as well as drum cartridge loaders and 1,283 cartridges of different calibers. Five of the pistols were �encrusted� with precious stones and gold. Also seized were 150 parcels of dollar bills of different denominations. The money has not yet been counted, but estimated in the thousands of dollars.
- Mexican Army assigned to traffic checkpoints in Culiac�n, stopped and disarmed a group of municipal police for failure to have written authorization with them for being armed.
- Apparently seeking the brighter side of the wave of violence that has rocked the state of Sinaloa, El Debate notes that the funeral business has had a rise in profits of some 35% due to the increase in murders.
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Norte (Cd. Ju�rez, Chihuahua) 8/17/08
At least 10 people, including a 4-year-old, are reported killed in a shootout in Creel, Chihuahua, a tourist town near the Copper Canyon area. According to police accounts, a group of some 20 people were leaving a dance hall when an armed group in at least three vehicles opened fire on them with assault rifles and pistols.
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Frontera (Tijuana, Baja California) 8/17/08
The governor of the state of Veracruz, Fidel Herrera, considers this the time for Mexico to create a national police to attack organized crime. �Our proposal is to unify commands and strategies. Perhaps the moment has arrived to have only one national police like those in France, Italy, and many democratic countries of the world,� he asserted.
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Monday, 8/18/08


El Universal (Mexico City) 8/18/08
- A total of 26 homicides related to organized crime occurred over the weekend, 20 in Chihuahua, 3 in Baja California and one each in Sinaloa, Durango and Colima. This count includes the count in Creel reported yesterday, the official total in that incident is 13 dead including a 1-year-old.
- The Army has suffered 60 killed in action in the anti-drug war so far during the present administration of President Felipe Calder�n.
- In its editorial, El Universal suggests that it would be advisable for the government to take advantage of public indignation over recent crimes in order to put into effect more ambitious measures against narcotraffic. In his opinion column, Jacobo Zabludovsky laments that Mexico stays the same through every administration, always confronting problems superficially, without any depth of analysis. Demetrio Sodi, in his column, wonders if this is just another presidential term wasted in combatting public insecurity.
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El Diario de Coahuila (Saltillo, Coahuila) 8/18/08
So far this year, 62 kidnappings for ransom have been reported in the state of Mexico. This has resulted in the arrests of 68 kidnappers during the past four months, putting two criminal bands out of business. The Attorney General�s office (PGR) reports that there are an average of 64 kidnappings per month in the country.
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La Jornada (Mexico City) 8/18/08
Five subjects who tried to pass themselves off as federal officers in order to kidnap a businessman in Tlapanal�, Puebla were captured by the citizens of the town, beat up and were nearly lynched before authorities negotiated their release to official custody. Three of the five suffered major injuries during their custody following the �citizens arrest.� The photo relates.


- end of report -

a liitle humor to interupt such a serious topic........


This should be in The Onion....

A secret source in the military has confirmed that they are now taking advantage of our undocumented worker resource. The program is called operation "PINATA". While the enemy is under frontal attack a covert operation takes place from the rear. Using tactics gained from experience at construction sites throughout the US the undocumented patrol will rob the enemy blind.

The enemy will be left defenceless without supplies. The only limitation so far is the access to the enemy cannot be anymore than a shallow river that can be easily walked across.

Film at 11................................

Thank you , B......we should grin and goof off on this detail.

This is a good post,....

I like Jeanie's style, she's got cojones enough to state the obvious,........

Cojones,....that's the wrong metaphor,....?

certainly no offence to Jeannie expressed / implied.

Link:

http://nwanews.com/bcdr/News/64893/

Anti-illegal-immigration rally held
By Tom Treweek Staff Writer // [email protected]

Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2008

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ROGERS - Jeannie Bulsworth, the founder and chairwoman of the antiillegal-immigration group Secure Arkansas, described Monday night the problems illegals are making in America.

Not everyone shared Bulsworth's vision. Two people at the small gathering at the Rogers Public Library left after 15 minutes without a look back, leaving 13 people in the audience.

Bulsworth did not mince words.

"I think we are being targeted by the Mexican government," she said after noting the programs for illegal immigrants that have been passed by the American government.

She targeted the elected officials she blames for inaction.

"Vote 'em out," Bulsworth said. "We the people put 'em in there. We the people can get 'em out of there."

"I don't want to leave the decisions over to the Mexican consulate," she said. "We don't want to leave the decisions up to the drug smugglers. We don't want it up to the terrorists (and gangs ).

"I'm taking it to you all - you all are the ones who can make a difference," she said. "You're good people, and you've been abused enough in here."

She gave the audience members the tools of organization, of writing letters and making calls, of putting pressure on those in government. She encouraged them to force action in Benton County and northwest Arkansas.

"If it doesn't happen locally, it doesn't happen," Bulsworth said.

Bulsworth highlighted the costs she saw, the price of accommodating the illegals she wants to expel from Arkansas.

"We can't build enough schools. We can't build enough prisons," Bulsworth said. "We've got expenditures we're not even considering."

She didn't ask for much: a few signatures, a Benton County Secure America director, a secretary-treasurer. Bulsworth asked audience members to talk to their friends and their neighbors to let them know about the effort.

"All we need is a little bit done here, � just a little bit," she said. "It's just push the door open and watch what comes through."

I don't know why anyone is bothering to discuss this issue. The Federal Gomerment which was originally charged with nothing other than "protecting" our borders could today "shive a git". That was their primary purpose way back in the 1700's, WTF happened? NOBODY in the Gomerment really cares to secure our borders, I just don't understand their reason. Much like $ 4.00 a gallon gas when we have all the oil we need HERE and yet we cannot drill and produce.
The Gomerment must know something far beyond our ability to comprehend.

" I don't know why anyone is bothering to discuss this issue."

Well, I intend to keep bombarding you with this "ISSUE"
.......and daily evolutions thereof.
If you don;'t like it, give me my money and run me off.

.....been run offa' bigger outfits than this,....bwa-ha.

Wouldn't occur to anybody that this is all just random chaotic disonensce,........no "Grand Scheme / Master Plan ",......

of course, maybe Fox has a pictire of ole' W. gettin' it on when he was younger / wilder,....and ran into Mex.

" I don't know why anyone is bothering to discuss this issue."

Guess you'll have to keep wondering,.......I KNOW why I'm putting alla' this up, and believe me,....it's no bother.

see ya' on the wall.

GTC

I work in the construction industry. First INS raid I saw was in '83. I have lost close to 20 grand in tools on the job.

I really can't wrap my mind around what our govt isn't doing.

Met an illegal Guatamalan on a job.... he stated that he is an american and has just as much right to be here as I do. There was no challenging his mindset. The propaganda runs deep that it is their "right" and our govt and employers promote it.

We need to hold our folks in congress accountable. We need to throw the bums out and replace them with those that have more than their careers and self interest at the top of ther agenda.

While I appreciate the sentiment, I do not read these long copy and paste posts. It's just too much to chew on.

Carry on.

Well, you can click on the "Links" and most time see pictures too.

Hell, livin' in SoCal, you've got a handle on what's goin' on anyhoo.

.........Correct?

GTC

Every Damn day,...on that stretch of the I-10



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DPS officer injured trying to stop fleeing truck near Benson
The Associated Press

Tucson, Arizona | Published: 08.19.2008





An officer was injured Tuesday morning while deploying a spike strip in an effort to stop a truck that was fleeing from police on Interstate 10 near Benson.



At 9:09 a.m., an Arizona Department of Public Safety Officer attempted to stop a Chevrolet pickup truck on westbound I-10 at milepost 295 for speeding and a tint violation, according to Officer Robert Bailey, an agency spokesman.



When the driver refused to stop, a nine-minute pursuit ensued during which the truck�s tires were spiked, he said.



The spike strip slowed the vehicle down, but when officers realized that there were approximately six or seven suspected illegal immigrants in the back and another two or three in the front, the pursuit was terminated, Bailey said.



The truck went off the roadway and the DPS contacted the Border Patrol to let the agency know that the occupants may have bailed in the desert, Bailey said.

Watch this TV news outta' El Paso,........

both the "Expert" opinion,....and the need to NUMBER every cartridge case that hits the ground ( safer than chasin' shooters, I must admit,.......Hay Meng I no chase joo,.....I just count jur boolits )

Link: http://www.americanpatrol.com/MISCNEWS/2006-UP/E-MAIL/080820-JuarezMayhem.html

Crossfire: I didn't mean you shouldn't discuss it, I meant, we are just wasting our efforts if the Gooberment won't listen and perform. I lived a long time in Tucson so I am familiar with the problem that only gets worse with NO intervention by the Politicians supposedly in charge. Again, no offense to you meant.

Very true. I don't believe I've ever reviewed an application that didn't have the "United States Citizen" box checked, even though they show all education in Mexico and are about 20 years old and can't speak English.

It ain't just dope,....be REAL careful of anything outta' Sinaloa or Jalisco ( furniture, like)

Just fulla' those transluscent Amber Scorpions,...that hit like a Mack truck,....WAY worse than anything here domestic.

Link: http://www.kpho.com/news/17244659/detail.html

CBP Officers Find Pot In Furniture
Pot Has Estimated Street Value Of $2.7 Million

POSTED: 11:08 am MST August 20, 2008
UPDATED: 12:05 pm MST August 20, 2008


NACO, Ariz. -- U.S. Customs and Border Protection officers foiled a creative smuggling attempt at the Naco Port of Entry on Tuesday when they discovered 1,595 packages of marijuana hidden inside wooden entertainment centers coming from Mexico, authorities said.

"This type of deep, sophisticated concealment is a sign of how much effort drug trafficking organizations must go through in an attempt to smuggle illicit drugs past our officers," said Port Director Al Acuna. "Our officers have proven they are up to the challenge."

Officers screening commercial imports from Mexico entering through the Naco Port of Entry chose a shipment of wooden entertainment centers for intensive inspection based on suspicions raised during an examination of paperwork, questions asked of the driver and a quick inspection of the items.

Officers searching one of the entertainment centers discovered packages of marijuana hidden within the structure of the piece, and as they continued their inspection of the other items, discovered they were all concealing packages of marijuana.

Over a period of several hours, officers disassembled the furniture and removed 1,595 packages of marijuana, weighing almost 1,650 pounds. The estimated street value of the seized drugs is more than $2.7 million.

The driver of the vehicle was arrested and turned over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement for further investigation.

The USBP can hold up truck traffic at the border for days. I was in El Paso i had dropped off a trailer full of windshields from a Ford glass plant in Nashville, going to a Ford Plant, south of the Border. I was told it was going to be a drop and hook load, the trailer i was to pick up had been held at the border for inspection, about two days later i am finally Eastbound.

Si!

Wall Street Journal goes after "Anchor" concept

Why are we not surprised at "Fraud".....?

Well, good on the State Dept. for calling Whoa

Shame to see good will and compassion abused,.....Minnesota really DOES need more Somalians..............?


Link: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121919647430755373.html?mod=googlenews_wsj


Refugee Program Halted
As DNA Tests Show Fraud
Thousands in Africa
Lied about Families
To Gain U.S. Entry
By MIRIAM JORDAN
August 20, 2008; Page A3

The State Department has suspended a humanitarian program to reunite thousands of African refugees with relatives in the U.S. after unprecedented DNA testing by the government revealed widespread fraud.


Associated Press
The U.S. has halted refugee arrivals from East Africa, where hundreds of thousands of people have been stranded since civil war erupted in the 1990s.
The freeze affects refugees in Kenya, Ethiopia, Uganda, Guinea and Ghana, many of whom have been waiting years to emigrate. The State Department says it began DNA testing with a pilot program launched in February to verify blood ties among African refugees. Tests found some applicants lied about belonging to the same family to gain a better chance at legal entry.

The U.S. has responded by halting refugee arrivals from East Africa, where hundreds of thousands of people have been stranded in precarious conditions since civil war erupted in the early 1990s. The temporary suspension has generated panic in African communities in the U.S., where thousands wait to be joined by relatives.

Typically, a refugee already living in the U.S., a so-called anchor, is entitled to apply for permission to bring a spouse, minor children, parents and siblings. The process requires interviews, medical examinations and security screening.

But suspicion has grown in recent years that unrelated Africans were posing as family members to gain entry. "This program is designed for people to reunify with family members" already in the U.S., says Barbara Strack, director of the refugee division at U.S. Citizenship & Immigration Services. "We wanted to have empirical data" to confirm suspected fraud, she says.

In February, the State Department launched pilot testing in Kenya to verify family relationships, mainly among Somalis. When applicants arrived for a previously scheduled appointment, a U.S. official asked them to volunteer for a DNA test.

An expert then swabbed the cheek of those who claimed biological relationships, such as a mother and her purported children.


The cell samples were sent to labs in the U.S. for analysis.

As word spread, some applicants began missing appointments, and others refused to cooperate.

Laboratory analysis of the samples indicated a large portion of applicants weren't blood relations, as they claimed. "The results were dismaying," says Ms. Strack. "This told us we had a problem with the program."

The results prompted expansion of the testing to other countries. "We had high rates of fraud everywhere, except the Ivory Coast," says a State Department official.

In late April, the government decided to temporarily halt the family reunification resettlement program for East Africans. A government official confirms that "many thousands of people" are affected by the suspension, particularly Somalis and Ethiopians.

Refugee resettlement agencies report that arrivals have slowed to a trickle.

In Minneapolis and St. Paul, Minn., home to the country's largest East African population, Catholic Charities hasn't handled a single family reunification case since March 19. The agency has resettled 35 East African families this year, compared with more than 450 last year and about 1,300 in 2006. "Everyone is calling or walking in here and asking what is going on," says Angela Fox, a resettlement worker at Catholic Charities.

Some refugees received a notice from U.S. authorities advising them that their case is on hold because relatives didn't show up for a scheduled interview or they refused to supply a DNA sample.

Those who agreed to take the test are also in limbo.

Abdirahman Dhunkal, who hails from Somalia, petitioned in early 2005 for his father, mother and six siblings who are in Kenya to join him in Minnesota.

Their case was approved in late 2006, but Mr. Dhunkal says that his family was asked to take a DNA test earlier this year. Since the cell samples were collected, "nothing has happened. We are still waiting," says Mr. Dhunkal, 31, who hasn't seen his family in 14 years.

The government testing has raised questions about using DNA as an immigration tool.

"No one condones people gaining entry by false means; the integrity of the program must be ensured," says Bob Carey, chair of Refugee Council USA, a coalition of U.S. agencies that work on refugee issues, and vice president of resettlement for the International Rescue Committee. However, he adds, "DNA is not the only means to assess family relationships."

Refugee advocates say the definition of family among Africans extends beyond blood relatives, especially when families fleeing persecution are scattered. "Some families are raising children who aren't their own but whom they call son or daughter," says Ms. Fox of Catholic Charities.

Refugee slots are precious. The world's uprooted people are estimated to number 37 million; only about 1% are resettled. As the largest recipient, the U.S. absorbs about half of all refugees who are resettled.

Such demand "creates an incentive to get past the system," says Ralston H. Deffenbaugh Jr., president of Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Services. "Desperation makes people more susceptible to abuse or bribery."

To be approved as a refugee, an applicant must establish that he or she has suffered persecution or has a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race, creed or origin.

Between Oct. 1, 2007, and Aug. 13 of this year, the U.S. admitted 45,644 refugees. For the fiscal year ending Sept. 30, 2008, the Bush administration set a ceiling for African refugees at 16,000. But by Aug. 13, only 6,780 Africans had been admitted.

Family unity has long been a pillar of U.S. refugee admissions, with relatives accorded priority. U.S. officials say the government must balance a need to ensure the integrity of the program with the desire to let in vulnerable refugees.

The government hasn't decided whether to expand testing to compare the DNA of relatives in the U.S. with those abroad to verify kinship.

Write to Miriam Jordan at [email protected]

ALL IMMIGRATION SHOULD BE SUSPENDED until we can find a way to do it right, if you are a felon illegal immigrant, I would be okay with dropping them off the nearest tall building, the rest, send them home. Les

I can't help but agree with Roger Plank's evaluation at the bottom of this article..........

Seems that with other "Sanctuary Cities" examining the folly of their past actions and policies,.....Tucson is just wildly trying to charge willy nilly into the gap.........and pursue their own dream of La-La land.

We will undoudtedly see more mayhem there, and ya'll bear in mind ,....this is where Enriques Co-Worker was senslessly gunned down last week.

" Relax the rules ",.......?

STUPID Decision...........

GTC





Police chief eyes new policy on entrant reports
By Eric Swedlund

arizona daily star

Tucson, Arizona | Published: 08.16.2008



Tucson Police Chief Kermit Miller is proposing a revision to the department's policies that outlines specifically the circumstances that call for officers to report illegal immigrants to federal authorities.

The new policy effectively would remove the discretion the department has been giving officers to make "case-by-case" decisions about when to call immigration officials.



"Once the policy goes into effect and the officers are trained, it will be clear to them what cases they notify Immigration and Customs Enforcement and what ones they don't," said Sgt. Fabian Pacheco, a department spokesman.



"If there is any doubt, there are patrol supervisors who will be called out to the scene to work through the situation."



The new policy, which is a revision to the department's General Orders and does not require City Council approval, states that crime victims and witnesses who are undocumented immigrants won't be reported to federal officials and neither will those stopped for civil traffic violations.



"Here's the driving force behind this � we want to be careful that we don't create an underclass of victims who won't report crimes out of fear because they happen to be in the U.S. illegally," Pacheco said.



"We're not in the business of enforcing federal immigration laws," Pacheco said.

"We're in the business of investigating crimes, and we want victims to feel that when they're victimized, they can report those incidents to the local police and they will be aggressively investigated," he said.



Officers would be required to report all undocumented immigrants, including juveniles, arrested on suspicion of criminal activity, even for misdemeanor cite-and-release type violations.

"What prompted this was an effort within the Tucson Police Department to be in line with what other municipal law enforcement agencies across the state and across the United States are doing," Pacheco said.



"This is a progressive policy that most police departments accept. We understand that none of these law enforcement agencies, including us, really have the resources to get involved in enforcing federal immigration law."



Pacheco said the change would go into effect "soon."



Scrutiny on Tucson police's immigration policies intensified in November after a high school student and his family were deported. That sprang from Tucson police's notifying the Border Patrol while investigating marijuana found in the student's backpack at school.



Jennifer Allen, executive director of the Border Action Network, said the policy has some strong points but also has provisions the immigrant-rights group considers unacceptable.



Allen said that under Tucson police's discretionary policy, traffic stops were the majority of incidents that Border Action Network cited as abuses in a report issued to the department.



"The fact that they explicitly prohibit inquiries under those circumstances is a huge step forward in ensuring accountability and making sure people can trust law enforcement," Allen said.

The requirements to report juveniles who are arrested or those cited on field-release violations are two parts of the policy Allen said she wants changed.



Roger Plank, Tucson chapter director for the Minutemen Civil Defense Corps, criticized the Police Department for not requiring officers to report all undocumented immigrants.



"They don't have a choice to pick and choose which laws they're going to enforce," he said. "To come up with this policy of witnesses and victims and everything else is moot when you look at the overall scheme of things. It negates that argument of only separating out the criminals because they're already criminals by entering the country illegally.



"I don't understand how that helps us become more secure as a country and more secure as a community.



"These sanctuary policies that are put forth have wound up to be dismal failures and have cost communities more than they stood to gain."



● Contact reporter Eric Swedlund at 573-4115 or at [email protected].

" Crack House on our Southern Border".....good lone,....wish I'd come up with it.

Link: http://www.vdare.com/walker/080820_kidnapping.htm


Kidnapping�A Job Americans Won�t Do (But Mexicans Will)
By Brenda Walker

It's one ugly picture when the elected government of even a shabby democracy cannot put down a bunch of criminals using its army, with 40,000 troops now deployed.

Behind closed doors, elites from Mexico City to Washington must be increasingly nervous about the failure of Presidente Felipe Calderon's military offensive of more than a year's length against the drug cartels. The $1.4 billion Merida Initiative of crime-fighting goodies for Mexico was one indication of Congress' fear of a failed state next door�think Colombia with a dash of Somalia added. Americans must pay attention to the country-sized crack-house on our southern border.

Calderon had made public safety a major issue in his presidential campaign. There is widespread fear of crime among average Mexicans.

But the bodies are piling up and the crimes are becoming more brazen. The death toll in Juarez alone is over 800 this year. High-ranking police have been assassinated by the cartels. Others have fled to the US, pleading for asylum.

If there is any sign of success in Mexico's battle against the chaos of gangocracy, I don't see it. In fact, a high-ranking official in the attorney general's office resigned earlier this summer over poor performance in the efforts against the cartels.

The Mexican elite has clung to weak criminal punishment in a stubborn attempt to act more like permissive Europe and less like the despised Americans, who are seen as being too tough on crime. But there are indications that ordinary Mexicans, who face more dangerous streets, would be perfectly happy with tougher sentencing, as well as better policing. (A stunning 97 percent of crimes go unsolved.)

Any realistic crackdown on crime would include an array of punishments that might actually deter criminals�long stretches in the slammer, with the option of life in prison for the worst offenses. But Mexico is noticeably slow on the uptake about the relationship between crime and punishment.

Kidnappings are up 9.1 percent in the first five months of this year. The June kidnapping and subsequent murder of Fernando Marti, the 14-year-old son of wealthy businessman, appears to have focused Mexican public attention more than the border carnage.

It was an awful crime by any measure. The boy had been snatched when the armored vehicle in which he was riding was apparently stopped at a police checkpoint. The two bodyguards were ordered out and taken away. The driver was tortured to death, with all of his teeth pulled out, and the other guard was choked, left for dead, but survived and has provided important information. The Marti family quietly paid $2 million dollars in ransom. But when two months of waiting failed, they turned to the press and openly advertised a larger amount for Fernando's safe release.

It was not to be. The boy's body was found stuffed in a trunk August 1. He had been dead for at least a month. The traumatic crime was worsened in the public mind by the fact that some of those arrested so far are police officers. The growing distrust of police has caused kidnap victim families to turn to authorities last.

"An entire industry, much of it unregulated, has grown up around kidnapping, with consultants to negotiate the ransom, insurance policies to cover any ransom losses and an array of safety measures, available to those who can pay, from bodyguards with military backgrounds to bulletproofing on cars and clothing.

Given the involvement of some wayward officers in the kidnapping trade, it is easy to see why victims' relatives look outside police forces in trying to bring such nightmares to an end." [A Boy�s Killing Prods a City to Stand Up to Kidnappers, By Marc Lacey And Antonio Betancourt, New York Times, August 14, 2008]

A significant indicator of desperation was Calderon's suggestion that punishment be stiffened after this crime. [Mexico: President Seeks Tougher Kidnapping Penalties, Reuters, August 7, 2008].

Mexico's problem is not just the worsening crime; it is the public losing trust that the government is acting to protect its basic safety. This is the mechanism by which civil society fails.

The wealthy have more choices, of course:

"A business leader who survived a kidnapping and asked not to be named told TIME: 'What are we to do? Get the Israelis as bodyguards? Somebody else was mentioning using American Special Forces, as they are being demobilized and are more serious. Do we have to have our own paramilitary forces? We have to be organized, as the government obviously is not. I am sending my family to the U.S.' His sentiments are common in gatherings of the wealthy, where options under discussion range from emigration to buying a smaller house and less ostentatious car�and, of course, investing more heavily in private security." [No Help for Mexico's Kidnapping Surge, Time Magazine, August 08, 2008]

Nice that this �business leader� has faith in the United States to keep his family safe.

Of course, our police are mostly top notch�not like those crooks with badges in Mexico.

But a law-respecting society is built upon the shared responsibility of citizens, not merely a dependence on police to make law and order work. And you have to wonder at what point the Mexican Way of Crime will become fully ensconced at the same level here�simply because so many Mexicans now live in the U.S. When tens of millions of Mexicans "move" en masse to America, the whole cultural package arrives. And that includes crime. The idea that "good" Mexicans can be protected from "bad" ones has its limits.

It�s already happening. Rich Mexicans (and anyone else) living in the United States are sparkly lures to people snatchers, both expert and beginners. As noted earlier in VDARE.com, Mexican-style kidnapping has arrived. In San Diego, a Mexican businessman was grabbed and held for money by a several men. In Florida last year, 13-year-old Clay Moore was kidnapped from a school bus stop by one Mexican, but managed to escape using his ingenuity.

Here's a chilling headline:

�Mexican drug gang turns to kidnapping in U.S. �Reuters, August 12, 2008

�TIJUANA, Mexico (Reuters) - American businesswoman Veronica was stepping out of her car in California when two men forced her into the passenger seat at gunpoint, pushed her teenage daughter into the back and drove them into Mexico.

�Taking advantage of lax Mexican security at the San Diego border, and with U.S. authorities focused mainly on those entering the United States, the kidnappers took the two women to Tijuana in January and held them for a month before their family paid a $100,000 ransom. [...]

�Several Americans have also been kidnapped in Texas this year and held for ransom in Mexico, the FBI said.�

That's right�the new cool thing for Mexi-gangsters is "transnational kidnapping" because nobody checks cars going into Mexico.

We already know that Mexican organized crime is here in America and has replaced Colombia as the major drug trafficker in the hemisphere, to the point where at least 195 American cities have Mexican cartels operating in them. There's every reason to assume that the narco-criminals are expanding their portfolios to other money-making pursuits in which they have expertise�namely, kidnapping.

"[Independent consultant Georgina] Sanchez said kidnapping in the United States could be particularly attractive to the cartels because they may be able to demand more money than they do in Mexico.

"�The US will begin to see a little of the same conflict that is happening in Mexico,� Sanchez said. �If [the cartels] already have methods, and ways of diversifying into other crimes, it's normal that they won't stop at the border.�" [Mexican drug cartels now doing business on US soil, Boston Globe, August 3, 2008]

The big question: Why isn't Washington doing something about the threat posed by Mexican anarchy?

Or perhaps a better question is: Why don't policies correspond to the real danger?

Among elite law enforcement and government policy makers, there is plenty of the "partnering" transnational philosophy of policing.

But common sense tells us to lock our own front door before cleaning out the crack house across town.

Our sovereign borders should be our first line of defense against a world of diverse criminals.

Job #1 for Washington should be: crime prevention�by keeping out the bad guys.

Brenda Walker (email her) lives in Northern California and publishes two websites, LimitsToGrowth.org and ImmigrationsHumanCost.org. Her favorite part of the Olympics has been the Great Wall of China.

This is not about Election year politics......

Bad enough he looks like a SQUIRREL,....

without acting / talking like one....

" McCain also addressed the need to put tighter controls on the flow of illegal weapons into Mexico. By some estimates, 95 percent of the weapons used in the drug wars in Mexico came from the United States."

.........Given that the Cuban Mafia, and the Russian Mobs are running Cancun,....

........Given that the same miscreants are in fairly powerful ascendance here at home ( within our Borders).....

....and extrapolating that they can freely move TONS of contraband with relative impunity,....

Doesn't "Tightening up" sound a little like another regulatory cross to bear, for the everyday stand up guy,.......

Predisposed to have no impact whatsoever on the actual problem ?

............like we have all sortsa' overwhelming proof about "95%" of the iron being outta' the US ?

Oh,.....that's right, ....the Mexican GOVERNMENT told us this was so.



Link: http://www.scsun-news.com/news/ci_10259573




McCain praises U.S.-Mexico cooperation on combating drug trade
By Jose L. Medina/Sun-News reporter
Article Launched: 08/21/2008 01:00:00 AM MDT


Click photo to enlargeSecret Service agents and local law enforcement officers... (Sun-News photo by Shari Vialpando)�1�
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ABOARD THE "STRAIGHT TALK EXPRESS" � Arizona senator and Republican presidential candidate John McCain on Wednesday praised efforts by Mexican officials to combat the drug trade and argued for tightening existing laws to prevent the flow of weapons into Mexico.

"This is really the first

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time when we have significant U.S.-Mexican cooperation," sad McCain, speaking to reporters aboard his campaign bus, the "Straight Talk Express," following a town hall meeting in Las Cruces earlier in the day.
Since the beginning of the year, more than 800 people have been murdered in Ju�rez as drug cartels battle for territory and drug smuggling routes. Other border cities have also been afflicted by the violence, which has mostly stayed on the Mexican side of the border.

"This is a serious challenge to the authority of the government of Mexico," McCain said. "What happens when drug cartels take over? Drugs flow into the United States of America. It is clearly in America's interests to cooperate."

McCain said the Merida Initiative, a plan to provide the Mexican government with millions in U.S. funds to combat drug-related crime, is a good first step in the cooperative effort.

"I'm proud of (Mexican) President (Felipe) Calderon for trying," McCain said, touting himself as experienced in dealing with border security issues and criticizing his opponent, Sen. Barack Obama.

"Senator Obama has never been to Mexico. I've been dealing with these issues for many, many years. I understand them," he said.

McCain also addressed the need to put tighter controls on the flow of illegal weapons into Mexico. By some estimates, 95 percent of the weapons used in the drug wars in Mexico came from the United States.

"We have to do a better job in the form of instant background checks and making sure there's not a pattern of someone buying a bunch of these weapons. ... It is a problem, but I think we should improve, tighten, the existing laws rather than pass new ones."


Jose Medina can be reached at jmedina@lcsun-news.

Gotta' earn a livin', here in the land of opportunity,..?

Link:

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3412604/

Nash couple accused of trafficking cocaine


Posted: Aug. 21 1:03 p.m.
Updated: Aug. 21 1:10 p.m.

Nashville, N.C. � A Nash County couple faces numerous charges in connection with a yearlong drug trafficking investigation, which authorities say is a significant drug bust for the area.

Deputies arrested, Gavino Mendoza, 35, and his wife, Martina Hernandez Uribe, 31, both of 7549 Sarah Way in Rocky Mount.

The couple ran a large drug trafficking operation from their home and were sending drugs and money out of state and out of the country, investigators said Thursday morning.

Mendoza, who was arrested Tuesday following an undercover drug buy, faces six counts of trafficking cocaine and two counts of maintaining a place for the purpose of keeping and storing a controlled substance.

Uribe was arrested Thursday morning and charged with one count each of manufacturing marijuana, possessing drug paraphernalia, possession with intent to sell cocaine, maintaining a place for the purpose of keeping and storing a controlled substance and trafficking cocaine.

Among the items seized from the couple's home was 5.5 pounds of cocaine worth about $250,000, as well as $110,000 in cash and marijuana.

The investigation is not over, and the sheriff's office says there could be more charges and additional arrests.

Investigators also said Thursday that they are working with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement to determine if the couple is in the country illegally.

Mendoza was in the Nash County jail Thursday morning under a $2 million bond. His wife was in jail under a $1 million bond.

Reporter: Mike Charbonneau

From Lou Dobbs...................

So along comes this pompous Clown, talking about morality.

Lou Dobbs Tonight -- CNN -- August 21

Dobbs: The Catholic Church in this country is one of the strongest and the most outspoken advocates -- that is the Council of Bishops is the strongest advocate for open borders and amnesty for illegal aliens. Tonight a Catholic bishop in Rhode Island is not only calling for an end to immigration enforcement. He's calling for federal agents to have the right not to enforce the law. Now we're getting deep. Bill Tucker has our report.
Bill Tucker: In raids like this at a meat packing plant in Pottsville, Iowa, at a factory with defense contracts in Massachusetts, a manufacturer in North Carolina, across the country since the beginning of the year, more than 5,000 illegal aliens have been arrested in work site immigration enforcement raids. More than 1,000 of those face criminal charges. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops has spoken out against those raids and one of its members, Bishop Thomas Tobin, of Providence has condemned the raids and says they should be stopped. In a letter to Immigration and Customs Enforcement he calls them quote "unjust, unnecessary and counterproductive." The bishop goes on to urge federal agents to consider the morality of their actions.
Bishop Tobin: I'm not suggesting that everybody who works for ICE is immoral in some way. I'm not suggesting that it is impossible to take a moral approach to this participation. I don't necessarily have the answer to that question. But I think it's a fair question to ask.
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FLASH !..................

Functional Brain discovered at Fed ICE H.Q.

this ( expensive) stunt ranks right up there with everyone bring in their 40 Glock in raw Dumbchit practicality.

I do hope that the folks enjoy their trip home,

Really,

GTC

Link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080822/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/immigration_self_deportation_8


Immigration agency scraps self-deportation program By AMY TAXIN, Associated Press Writer
Fri Aug 22, 6:23 AM ET



SANTA ANA, Calif. - A pilot program allowing illegal immigrants to surrender to authorities and have more control over their deportation has been dubbed a failure.

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U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement says it is ending its "Scheduled Departure" program when the three-week trial concludes Friday. Only eight people participated in the program, officials said.

"Quite frankly, I think this proves the only method that works is enforcement," Jim Hayes, acting director of ICE's detention and removal operations, told The Associated Press on Thursday.

ICE said it hatched the plan to give illegal immigrants more control over their departure and to quell criticism by immigrant advocates that its enforcement efforts were disruptive to families.

"They want amnesty, they want open borders, and they want a more vulnerable America," Hayes said.

While immigrant rights activists ridiculed the program, they're now worried its failure will embolden enforcement.

"My hope is it isn't going to empower them or fuel their enforcement even further," immigration lawyer Lisa Ramirez said.

Immigrant advocates said the program flopped because it offered few incentives for illegal immigrants to step forward since they would be barred from returning to the country for as long as a decade. They also said it failed to consider immigrants' ties to family here.

"We do not believe they were really interested in having people turn themselves in," said Jorge-Mario Cabrera, director of community education for the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles.

ICE offered the program to 457,000 illegal immigrants nationwide who have ignored judicial orders to leave the country but have no criminal record. They were promised up to 90 days to plan their exit and coordinate travel with relatives.

Applicants could sign up at ICE offices in Charlotte, N.C., Chicago, Phoenix, San Diego and Santa Ana. ICE estimates 30,000 eligible immigrants lived in the five cities where the program was offered.

The eight volunteers included an Estonian man in Phoenix, a Guatemalan man and Indian couple in Chicago, a Salvadoran man in Charlotte, a Mexican woman in San Diego and a Guatemalan man and Lebanese man in Santa Ana, according to ICE.

ICE spent $41,000 to advertise the program. Hayes said the government may have saved money because the cost of detaining the six immigrants who turned themselves in during the program's first week would have been $37,000.

Sure are seeing a lot of "Summary" sorta' writings,.......

Given all of the Summary Executions taking place in those dusty smoky hills of old Juarez,.......

150 in 3 weeks,......that's in Juarez town.

We'll not see numbers for the Nation as a whole,....much now goes unreported,.......safer that way for those on scene.

Link: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/nationworld/stories/082208dnintjuarez.40b97cd.html


As Ju�rez violence escalates, debate rages on whether Mexico's drug war is working

11:08 PM CDT on Thursday, August 21, 2008
By ALFREDO CORCHADO / The Dallas Morning News
[email protected]

CIUDAD JU�REZ, Mexico � An explosion of violence has made this border city the central front in Mexico's war on powerful drug cartels. But officials disagree on whether the carnage is a sign of progress or a mark of failure.

Nearly five months after the government of President Felipe Calder�n sent more than 2,500 federal troops and police to the state of Chihuahua on Texas' southwestern border, the pace and scope of drug violence have reached unprecedented levels.

With two mass killings in recent days, more than 1,200 people have been killed statewide in drug-related violence this year, according to tallies kept by Mexican media.

Ju�rez is leading the country in killings, surpassing even Mexico City. More than 850 have been killed in this city of 1.5 million people right across the border from El Paso, including about 150 in the past three weeks.

The state toll makes up more than 40 percent of the nationwide total of 2,700 people killed in drug-related violence this year.

Chihuahua Gov. Jos� Reyes Baeza this week called the violence "unacceptable" and challenged federal authorities to do more, saying that "a new response is needed to the bloody expressions of organized crime."

But a U.S. law enforcement official said the level of violence was a sign of success. "We're winning. The cartels are in disarray," the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Others aren't so optimistic.

"What we're witnessing today is, without question, without precedent," said Alfredo Quijano, editor of Norte de Ciudad Ju�rez newspaper. "This is the fiercest, crudest war we've ever witnessed between drug traffickers in our city's history."

The carnage raises questions about the government's ability to restore order � particularly in cities such as Ciudad Ju�rez, an important trade and immigration conduit to Texas.

"These killings clearly indicate that the Mexican state has absolutely failed in its mission to protect the public," said Howard Campbell, a border anthropologist and drug trafficking expert at the University of Texas at El Paso. "It appears that no amount of soldiers or special police agents is enough to stop the killings in Ju�rez, either because they are incompetent, badly corrupted or intimidated by the cartels."


Other targets

Officials are concerned that the violence is spreading beyond cartel and law enforcement targets. Both UTEP and New Mexico State University have warned students to stay away from Ju�rez, a traditional destination for partygoers.

U.S. and Mexican officials had predicted that 2008 would be a bloody year, partly in response to the government crackdown. But officials now say they are surprised by the ferocity and resilience shown by the warring Sinaloa and Ju�rez cartels, battling for control of smuggling routes into the U.S. And they expressed renewed concern of corruption within the government.

Last week, the federal attorney general's office put six members of its organized crime unit under house arrest on suspicion of working for drug kingpins, including Arturo Beltr�n Leyva, a reputed leader of a faction involved in the Chihuahua violence.

Law enforcement officials attribute much of the violence to the Zetas, the paramilitary group once allied with the Gulf cartel but now operating more as freelance mercenaries. Officials say the Zetas are now working for Vicente Carrillo Fuentes of the Ju�rez cartel and his ally Mr. Beltr�n Leyva, an alleged former top member of the Sinaloa cartel.

"You're talking about a lethal combination � brains and power," said a U.S. intelligence official, speaking on condition of anonymity. He said he was referring to Mr. Beltr�n Leyva and his ability to co-opt Mexican authorities, and the muscle of the Zetas, a group that was founded by army deserters and had formerly served as the armed enforcers of the Gulf cartel along the Texas-Mexico border in Tamaulipas state. The Zetas have been implicated in Dallas killings as well.

Officials say the Zetas are increasingly involved in other criminal enterprises, including kidnapping and human smuggling, as well as legitimate businesses.


Nuevo Laredo

Even relatively quiet areas are sources of distress to some people along the border.

Nuevo Laredo has seen a sharp drop in violence after hundreds of soldiers and federal agents were dispatched there. But business leaders say the Zetas maintain an active presence and are pressuring their way into legitimate businesses.

"This is worse than when they were fighting it out because at least they were out in the open," said Jacob Suneson, former vice chairman of the Nuevo Laredo Chamber of Commerce. "Now they're in the fiber of the city, kidnapping people at will, and nothing's said or published anymore, nothing is reported, nothing is being done. If our federal government says it's winning the war and that it's in control, I would ask them the following: How are you measuring success? Because from our vantage point, we've lost Nuevo Laredo."

Interior Minister Juan Camilo Mouri�o said Wednesday that the government remains committed to restoring order.

"The president does not elude his responsibility and, on the contrary, will continue facing the most deeply felt complaint of society, which is insecurity, until the last day of his administration," Mr. Mouri�o said. "This is a transcendent moment for the country."

Earlier this year, the Zetas and the Gulf cartel amicably broke their working relationship after dividing up areas of control in Tamaulipas, U.S. and Mexican law enforcement officials say. Under their agreement, the Gulf cartel controls smuggling at key border crossings, including Matamoros, Reynosa and Tampico. The Zetas control Nuevo Laredo, the busiest transit route into the U.S. via the Interstate 35 corridor to Dallas and beyond.

One Laredo law enforcement official said it was inevitable that the Zetas would return to challenge their former employers for wider control.

"Nuevo Laredo, the entire state of Tamaulipas, is a powder keg," said the official, citing informants. "Once the Zetas complete their mission with Beltr�n Leyva, they will return and cause mayhem here. It's just a matter of time."

Staff writer Laurence Iliff in Mexico City contributed to this report.

Grim tally
Recent killings in Ciudad Ju�rez and Chihuahua state include:

Monday: Gunmen ripped off security bars and stormed a house in Ju�rez, killing a Mexican motocross champion, Rene Tercero Reyes Aguirre, and two other racers, the El Paso Times reported.

Saturday: Gunmen killed 14 people at a family gathering in the western town of Creel.

Aug. 13: Gunmen opened fire during a religious service at a drug rehabilitation center in Ju�rez, killing eight men.

Aug. 11: There were 15 killings in Ju�rez, including two quadruple homicides. In Chihuahua City, assassins killed Pedro Aragonez, the forensic science director of the state attorney general's office.

And part of the responsibility for all this violence is on the US drug user.

No buyers = no drug dealers = no drug smugglers.

Time to legalize and regulate drugs? This isn't working.

Time to legalize locally organize lynchings and hangings of purveyors of poison to kids works for me,......

I've been investigated for just that,only mistake was letting the sorry SOB down alive, his "Rights" a;; violated, Cocainew rotted Septum squirting big gouts of blood all over

...and would do it again in a bloody heartbeat.

Ya'll hang, or shoot any of these trash,.......Have some sorta' big industrial size " Lawn and Garden" size bag handy,....it's a real mess.

You raise an intriguing point ,...as regards the "Adult" sector,
and drug use,.......

....that don't free up MS 13 to run around like they own OUR turf,

....it's down to that now,.....

Turf.

GTC



http://www.svherald.com/articles/2008/08/22/news/doc48ae629146640121071717.txt

Arizona is �ground zero� for Border Patrol
By ARTHUR H. ROTSTEIN
Associated Press

Published on Friday, August 22, 2008

PHOENIX � Arizona is �Ground Zero� for the Border Patrol in its quest to gain effective control of illegal immigration into the United States, and agents are making headway, the chief of the agency�s busiest sector says.

The progress is reflected in a 16 percent drop in apprehensions in the patrol�s Tucson sector through Aug. 19 for the current fiscal year, compared to the same period a year ago, and by what officials believe is an even bigger decrease in entries, Chief Patrol Agent Robert Gilbert told The Associated Press this week. The fiscal year ends Sept. 30.
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Tucson Border Patrol Chief Patrol Agent Robert Gilbert speaks with the Associated Press, Wednesday, Aug. 20, 2008 in Phoenix. Gilbert says Arizona is "Ground Zero" for the Border Patrol in its quest to gain effective control of illegal immigration into the United States, and agents are making headway. (AP Photo/Matt York)




(Use arrows above to view more photos) �We have a ways to go, but we�re a lot closer today than we have been, and we�re seeing the results,� Gilbert said. �We�re at a 10-year low right now with apprehensions.�

Federal officials frequently cite lower apprehension figures as a measure of success since Border Patrol officials believe they indicate fewer people are trying to cross illegally.

As of Aug. 19, agents in the Tucson sector had made 291,000 apprehensions versus nearly 349,000 through the same date last year.

Gilbert noted the numbers are lower than figures hit in the 2002 fiscal year, when apprehensions plummeted following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. And they�re far below the highest arrest total of the decade � 557,000 during the 2000 fiscal year.

But the sector, with its 262 miles of border, is still the busiest on the Mexican frontier, registering 46 percent of all Border Patrol arrests and 50 percent of its total marijuana seizures, Gilbert said.

As a result, the sector has received the most border fencing and vehicle barriers and been the test site for high-tech pilot programs, from virtual fencing to unmanned surveillance drones.

�This is for the Border Patrol our Ground Zero,� Gilbert said.

Gilbert credits several factors for sector successes, including increases in manpower, the fences and other physical barriers, efforts to prosecute some illegal immigrants and a program to fly some illegal immigrants caught in Arizona to the Mexican interior. The aerial repatriation program is intended to separate illegal immigrants from their smugglers.

�We�ve tried a lot of different things here, but one of the mistakes that I believe we�ve made is trying to eat the whole apple at once,� Gilbert said. �So now we�re taking sections of the border back.�

His team has divided the sector into six areas and agents focus first on those that are considered a priority. Gilbert�s mantra is: �Gain control, maintain control, expand operations � gain, maintain, expand.�

Gilbert said other factors are also deterring illegal immigrants from coming to and staying in Arizona, including the passage of state immigration laws, greater enforcement by local authorities and the efforts of a Border Patrol sister agency, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which concentrates on enforcement away from the border.

Not good news,

............GREAT news ! ( albeit a mite overdue)

Really good news,....and this sorta' comentary,.....slogged away at, fed, watered, and nourished by folks that WRITE to their reps is contributory



Link: http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/border/254004


Tucson Region
5 virtual fence towers on Buenos Aires get initial OK
By Brady McCombs
Arizona Daily Star
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 08.22.2008
advertisementThe U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has given Homeland Security officials the initial green light to construct five virtual fence towers on the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge southwest of Tucson.
In a draft compatibility determination released today, Buenos Aires managers decided that the potential long-term benefits of the towers � reducing illegal-immigrant traffic and associated Border Patrol activity on the refuge � outweighed the expected harm, including loss of habitat at tower sites, and wildlife and habitat disturbance during construction, maintenance and operation, the report says.
"Based on the information provided by DHS (Department of Homeland Security), the refuge expects that successful operation of the towers will result in a decrease in the environmental impacts caused by illegal immigration as well as an overall reduction in DHS operations on the refuge," the report said. "These reductions will enhance the experience members of the public have when visiting the refuge."
Homeland Security wants to place five permanent towers on the Buenos Aires refuge: four surveillance towers and one communications tower. The surveillance towers would stand 80 feet and the communications tower 120 feet. All five towers would be placed on concrete foundations and be enclosed by chain-link fence.
The surveillance towers are capable of viewing a 360-degree area for 24 hours a day with a radius of about 6 miles, the report said.
The towers would be among 57 planned in a project dubbed Tucson West that would create a virtual fence targeting 81 miles of Arizona's border between Sasabe and a point south of Sierra Vista.
The reality that Homeland Security plans to put virtual fence towers around the refuge also influenced the refuge's decision, the report said.
"If no towers are constructed on the refuge, there could potentially be a greater influx of illegal immigrants through the area," the report said. "Illegal immigrants quickly learn where they are most likely to be detected and where they can hide. If towers are detecting illegal immigrants everywhere but the refuge, then illegal immigrants will be more likely to travel through the refuge."
The public will have until Sept. 2 to comment on the draft, and officials will take the feedback into account in making a final decision, said Fish and Wildlife spokesman Jose Viramontes.
Fish and Wildlife is hoping to release its final determination no later than the week of Sept. 8, Viramontes said. If the final determination remains compatible, a special-use permit for the towers will be given to Homeland Security.
It was unclear Thursday if a Fish and Wildlife decision to allow the towers would prompt Homeland Security to instruct Boeing Co., the lead contractor, to resume work on the virtual fence.
In the past week, Homeland Security officials put all virtual-fence work on an indefinite hold. The agency said it was awaiting permission from the Interior Department to use its lands.
Interior Department officials said Homeland Security submitted requests to place towers on two Arizona public borderlands July 10 � just five days before it planned to begin construction.
In addition to the Tucson West project, Homeland Security has plans for a second project, called Ajo-1, that calls for 11 towers in Southwestern Arizona, including seven in Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument. It has been put on hold until the department can resume construction of the Tucson West towers.
The Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge is in one of the busiest corridors for illegal-immigrant and drug-smuggling traffic on the Southwest border. An estimated 100,000 to 300,000 illegal immigrants cross there annually, the report says.
Nearly a decade of this activity has left scars on the refuge and recently landed it on an undesirable Top 10 list � the most imperiled national wildlife refuges in the country, according to a report by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility.

Another one bites the dust,......

....wonderin' how the "Mass street protest went,


Link: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-08-23-police-chief-slain_N.htm

Mexican police chief slain a day after taking job
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Yahoo! Buzz Digg Newsvine Reddit FacebookWhat's this?CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico (AP) � A northern Mexican town's police chief was killed Friday just 24 hours after replacing a predecessor whose slaying had prompted the rest of the force to quit out of fear of drug gangs.
Jesus Blanco Cano's bullet-ridden body was found at a ranch near the town of Villa Ahumada in Chihuahua state, about 80 miles south of El Paso, said Alejandro Pariente, a spokesman for the regional deputy attorney general's office.

He had been beaten, blindfolded and his hands were tied behind his back. Twelve bullet casings were found at the scene.

Cano, 40, had been on the job for just a day. The previous police chief, two other officers and three residents were killed in May when 70 gunmen barged into Villa Ahumada, a town virtually taken over by drug gangs.

The rest of its 20-member police force quit in fear, forcing the Mexican military to take over. The town had slowly been recruiting new police and was without a police chief until Blanco took the job. The troops eventually left.

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Mayor Fidel Chavez met Friday with state police, but nobody at this office could be reached for comment. Chavez had fled after the May attack, taking refuge in the state capital of Chihuahua City, but he returned after soldiers recovered the town.

Mexico's powerful drug cartels have stepped up attacks against police in response to a military and police crackdown, beheading some officers and killing others outside their homes. Several towns and cities, particularly in the north, have struggled to hold together their police forces.

The mayor of Ciudad Juarez, a town just north of Villa Ahumada, announced a plan this week to recruit soldiers to replenish its depleting police force. Many police in Ciudad Juarez, across from El Paso, have been killed after their names appeared on hit lists left in public. Others whose names appeared on the lists have quit.

Since taking office in 2006, President Felipe Calderon has sent more than 25,000 troops and federal police to retake drug hotspots across the country.

But homicides, kidnappings and shootouts have only increased. In Chihuahua state � home base of the powerful Juarez drug cartel � more than 800 people have been killed this year, a surge from less than 400 during the first half of 2007.

Outraged Mexicans are planning mass street protests against crime for Saturday.

Good,....tough no-nonsense operations,......

Phoenix NEEDS this

Link: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/08/23/20080823departure0823.html

Feds plan more raids on fugitive migrants
Voluntary-deportation program's poor results prompt crackdown
by Daniel Gonz�lez - Aug. 23, 2008 12:00 AM
The Arizona Republic
Federal authorities say they will step up raids on illegal immigrants' homes after only eight immigrants, including one in Phoenix, stepped forward to take an offer of planned deportation.

The lack of participation in Operation Scheduled Departure, a pilot program, showed that the only way to solve the problem of immigrants staying in the U.S. after being ordered to leave is through enforcement, Jim Hayes of Immigration and Customs Enforcement said in a conference call Friday with reporters.

The 3-week-old program in five cities is being canceled. The only immigrant who stepped forward for voluntary deportation in Phoenix was from Estonia.
"This program proves that the most effective way is the way we have been doing it, through fugitive operations," said Hayes, who is acting director of ICE's detention-and-removal operations.


Thousands apprehended

Over the past two years, fugitive-operation teams in Phoenix and other U.S. cities have nabbed tens of thousands of undocumented immigrants, most at their homes but also at job sites. The teams work daily to identify, locate and arrest immigrants who have previously been ordered to leave the U.S. but remained.

The majority are immigrants who applied for legal residency but were denied. Others were ordered deported after committing crimes. The teams have arrested 29,000 fugitive immigrants this fiscal year and are on pace to surpass the 30,000 arrested last year, Hayes said.

Nine more teams will be operating soon, bringing to 104 the total number assigned to hunt down deportation absconders full time, Hayes said.

In Phoenix, the ICE fugitive-operation team arrested 452 people through the first nine months of this fiscal year, compared with 472 all of last year, ICE spokesman Vincent Picard said. Of the 452 arrested in the current fiscal year, 255 were fugitives. The other 197 were undocumented immigrants that ICE officers came across while looking for fugitives, Picard said.

Immigrant advocates have criticized the operations, saying they break up families and terrorize immigrant communities. In response, the government launched the experimental scheduled-departure program on Aug. 5. It gave non-criminal fugitives the chance to turn themselves in and arrange for their departure within 90 days. In exchange, participants would not have to worry about agents unexpectedly showing up at the crack of dawn and removing them without a chance to settle their affairs.


Critics: Designed to fail

Advocates for immigrants said Operation Scheduled Departure was merely a ruse intended to give the government justification for continuing its sweeps.

"They knew this project was going to be a failure. They needed an excuse to justify what they have been doing," said Elias Bermudez, founder of the Phoenix-based advocacy group Immigrants Without Borders.

Bermudez predicted that the government will now intensify fugitive operations and that more non-fugitive illegal immigrants will get caught in the dragnets.

"We are telling people not to answer their doors (if ICE officers arrive looking for fugitives)," Bermudez said.

Magdalena Schwartz, a Mesa pastor and member of the Alliance of Valley Religious Leaders, said she believes more immigrants would have participated in the voluntary program if the government had given them more time to settle their affairs.

"Many of these immigrants have lived in this country for years," Schwartz said. "It takes more than (90 days) to sell their house, close their bank accounts, take care of their finances and take their children out of school."

In the four other participating cities - San Diego and Santa Ana, Calif.; Chicago; and Charlotte, N.C. - two Guatemalans, a couple from India, a Salvadoran, a Lebanese and a Mexican came forward.

So it would be fair to say that portions of Mexico are in a full blown state of war and folks are more tuned into the Olympics, Putin's antics half way around the world and the election 2008 .... not sure of the right word here...."stuff".

Is that about it? Oh yeah and it's spilling over onto or soil more and more openly.... extra security needed at US hospital where some of the wounded are dropped off.... I forgot that part ...

Hell, people don't care about what's happening next door! Why would you expect them to care about Mexico?

Every time I go to WalMart there are more and more Mexican there.... you don't suppose they are staging for a coup.... the government would have warned us... right????

One thing I'm noticing is a LARGE percentage of the Sonora and other Mex. vehicles I'm seeing on my local by-ways are very upscale, top line SUVs and PUs. Sure one still sees older rigs,........I just never remember seeing this much shiny new iron before.

........you're right, folks are generally way more comncerned about what's happening on the other side of the Planet,.....and things are pretty rough, just off to the S.

Definately more "Spill-Over", as well.

Ya'll have a real good Sunday.

GTC

Searched out, and rescued,.....

That is almost unbelievably tough country, looks like it ate some.

GTC

Link: http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/...408-rescue-illegal-immigran.b316554.html

Over a dozen immigrants rescued from desert, confirmed fatalities

More Gila Bend and Phoenix Local News

05:33 PM Mountain Standard Time on Sunday, August 24, 2008

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Confirmed fatalities among the group
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RAW: Chopper rescue
RAW: 2nd transport of dehadrated immigrant

PHOENIX (AP) -- At least 12 suspected illegal immigrants have been rescued in a desert area near Gila Bend.

The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office says the immigrants were found Sunday morning.

A sheriff's office spokesman says the search began Saturday night near the Barry M. Goldwater Gunnery Range, which runs along the Mexican border.

The search is ongoing for another five to seven people who may be lost.

Authorities said they believe the rescue mission was prompted by a 911 distress call.

The rescued have been taken to a Phoenix area hospital for treatment.

Maybe we should have many more gunnery ranges along the border.

All the good things,.......

"Blood, Gore, Beheadings, Assaults, and other criminal activities"

........................? !

Capital Punishment ,....NO,.....Blinding,.....SI




Link: http://m3report.wordpress.com/2008/...se-of-police-corruption-and-kidnappings/

Mexico outraged because of police corruption and kidnappings
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FORMER BORDER PATROL OFFICERS
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The National Association of Former Border Patrol Officers (NAFBPO) extracts and condenses the material that follows from Mexican and Central and South American on-line media sources on a daily basis. You are free to disseminate this information, but we request that you credit NAFBPO as being the provider.

VAST REIGN OF TERROR

( Note: an initial review of Mexican media sites today revealed the ever present, widespread and even growing accounts of blood, gore, beheadings, assaults and other criminal activities. In tune with that, the attachment to this report is an editorial section cartoon titled �Vast Reign of Terror� in today�s �El Universal�, a major Mexico City newspaper. It shows a map of Mexico on which there is a huge, overpowering and dominating fortress flying three flags: �narco�, �organized crime� and the skull & bones. From the depths, arising next to a puny Mexican flag, a cry arises: �Enough already!!�
In lieu of the usual recounting of assorted criminal activity and corruption, the following is a full translation of an article today in �El Diario de Coahuila� (Saltillo, Coahuila), titled �Mexico outraged because of police corruption and kidnappings.� We believe this article will give the reader an accurate picture of today�s climate of insecurity in Mexico )
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* - After the kidnappers in police uniforms set up a false checkpoint on a street in Mexico City to catch 14 year old Fernando Marti his father paid a ransom of hundreds of thousands of dollars and awaited his son�s safe return.
(MEXICO(AP)) - It was in vain. The boy and his driver were found dead, each one in the trunk of a car. Days later, law enforcement officials said that a �judicial� policeman had a relevant participation in the kidnapping plot.
Suspicion about police participation in the kidnapping-murders has outraged the nation, where indifference by numerous residents tends to grow about the noon time shootings and the beheadings between drug cartel members. Massive protests are being planned in various cities and some legislators are changing their minds about the rejection of the death penalty.
�They should blind them, that way they would not commit crimes any more. Prison is not the answer; they go to prison and form their own groups there inside, and they come out more powerful� said 26 year old college student Ignacio Noriega, and added that he no longer feels safe anywhere.
Thursday, police reported that 150 residents of a community on the western outskirts of Mexico City viciously beat two alleged thieves and threatened to lynch them. They finally turned them over to the police.
With no other option but to make efficient decisions, persons in authority at all levels signed an accord on Thursday to improve the struggle against crime in Mexico, with commitments and time limits which include the cleaning up and permanent training of police officers, new laws and more resources.
The Executive, Legislative and Judicial leaders accepted the National Security, Justice and Legality Accord, which sets time periods ranging from 30 days to three years to bring about 74 programs, and whose performance will be overseen by a citizens� watch group.
At the signing of the accord in the nation�s capital, President Calderon said that �the traditional form of fighting insecurity has been insufficient� and he committed himself to sending legislative proposals about public security and kidnapping to the Congress. The legislature agreed to analyze them and approve them before 2008�s end.
Alejandro Marti, the father of Fernando Marti, present at the meeting, warned that Mexicans will be watching that the government keeps its promises.
He said �If they can�t, they ought to resign, but they shouldn�t stay in government positions, or receive a salary for doing nothing.�
Mexico has one of the world�s highest rates of kidnapping, according to the social group IKV Pax Christi, and the problem is getting worse. Kidnappings have increased 9.1% this year, averaging 65 per month in the entire country, says the (Mex.) Dep�t. of Justice, which holds responsible for this a growing web of cartels, police and ex-police officers and informants who single out potential lucrative victims.
And the official figures widely underestimate the problem. The majority of the kidnappings are not reported, for fear of the police.
After interviewing Mexicans about crimes that were not reported, the Citizens� Study Institute on Insecurity determined that the real number of kidnappings is more than 500 per month. Eighty-six percent of those interviewed said that they have little or no confidence in local police. The poll results were released Wednesday.
Rich Mexicans have battled kidnappings for a long time, with costly security measures and private negotiators. But now even middle class families are in danger, and the kidnappers tend more and more to kill their captives, even if a ransom is paid. Barely a few days before Marti�s decomposed body was found on August 1st, six members of a family were found dead in a house in the western state of Jalisco, presumably victims of kidnappers aided by a police agent. Four of the victims, including two children, were shot in the head. One adolescent had his throat cut. His mother was asphyxiated with a plastic bag.
One of the family�s sons had been kidnapped and then set free once the ransom was paid, but the gang
- presumably with the collaboration of a corrupt police agent from the state�s anti-kidnapping unit - decided that the family had much more money and threatened to keep kidnapping unless they were paid more. Investigators said the men killed the family after the police agent was identified.
The anger at the inability to trust Mexican police exploded last week, when residents of the central city of Tlapanala were able to surround and disarm a gang of seven kidnappers who had been posing as policemen.. They held them for 24 hours, beating them �with everything they could get hold of� until leaving them totally bloodied, said the mayor, Jose Villalba.
��People are very furious� the truth is they wanted to beat me up also�, said Villalba. The mayor finally convinced the crowd to turn over the suspects - who carried false police credentials - to the state police.
Mexico officially opposes the death penalty, which it abandoned a long time ago, and considers that a life sentence is a cruel punishment. Just in 2005 Mexico agreed to extradite to the United States suspects who faced a life sentence in the United States. But this week, the small Green Party proposed to reinstitute the death penalty for police who participate in kidnappings and for kidnappers who kill their victims.
President Calderon has proposed life sentences for those crimes, now punishable with the maximum sentence of 50 years imprisonment. The (Mex.) Dep�t. of Justice attributes the increase of the violence to the diversification of organized crime in Mexico. It indicated in a report that �The criminals now engage in drug traffic, kidnapping and money laundering, among other activities, without a central control or management, nor any predominant organization among the crime areas or spheres.� It added, �Because of that, criminal activity became competitive, using violence with much more frequency among themselves and against society, to gain markets, territories or positions.�
Previously, anti-crime sentiment in Mexico has been shown to be a powerful force. More than a quarter million of Mexico City residents took part in a protest against assassinations and kidnappings in 2004, severely damaging the presidential aspirations of the then capital city mayor, Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador.
A similar protest has been called for on August 30. The Secretary of Government, Juan Camilo Mourino, deems worrisome that the growing outrage may lead to more acts of justice being carried out by private citizens.
He said �It�s obvious that society is outraged, it�s obvious that society is annoyed, and they have reason to be� �If we can�t agree to commitments and to channel those demands into clear and concrete steps, then the people could begin to take other types of actions which would not resolve the problem nor help anyone.�
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The sad fact is that MANY training missions have been aborted,.....due to "Traffic" on designated ranges,....leaving Davis Monthan and Luke AFB with having to bring aircraft back in bombed up, and carrying other live ordinance,......

It's been a real problem, ....at one point over 60% of training flights were being aborted........that sorta' thing gets but passing comment in media format.

GTC

Sounds to me like that need to go ahead and bomb anyhow, maybe they would get the friggin hints. Stupid fuggers!

Have you noticed this issue is virtually being ignored in the presidential race, other than generic ten second sound bites?

Major weight tossed in Phoenix,.......that place is becoming downright unfriendly to creepos,

be forewarned,...it's a "Fluid Situation",......and they'll be setting up in a neighborhood near you,........next.


GTC

Link: http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/...2208-methamphetamine-seized.11e0906.html

134 pounds of meth seized in Phoenix; 3 suspects arrested

More Phoenix Local News

04:19 PM Mountain Standard Time on Friday, August 22, 2008

U.S. Department of Justice

The following is a press release from the U.S. Department of Justice -- Drug Enforcement Administration:



U.S. Dept. of Justice



Phoenix -- On August 22, 2008, the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), in conjunction with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Contraband Smuggling Unit arrested 3 individuals and seized 134 pounds of "Ice" Methamphetamine and 4 kilograms of cocaine making it one of the state's largest methamphetamine seizures.

The investigation targeted a major Mexican drug trafficking organization that smuggled cocaine, methamphetamine and marijuana through Arizona for further distribution throughout the United States. On August 22, DEA and ICE agents executed a takedown on key members of the organization when they were observed moving the drugs from a one stash house to another in Phoenix.

The estimated retail (street) value of the methamphetamine is more than $4.8 million dollars

DEA Special Agent in Charge Elizabeth W. Kempshall said, "Today's operation is a major strike against the Mexican drug cartels that have made Phoenix Metropolitan area a primary hub of drug distribution. We have removed more than 4.8 million dollars of filthy money from these traffickers and have taken hundreds of pounds of dangerous drugs off our streets. These criminal organizations that prey upon the weak and addicted should know that the law enforcement partnerships in Phoenix are solid, strong and will be fighting you everyday to keep our communities and our citizens safe."

Crystal methamphetamine, known as "ice," is a highly addictive form of methamphetamine, a stimulant. On the illicit market it is sold in small, inexpensive dosage units that are smoked or injected. Smoking delivers large quantities of methamphetamine to the lungs, producing effects comparable to intravenous injection; these effects are almost immediate after smoking and very intense. "Ice" abuse also results in hallucinations and paranoia.

SAC Kempshall credited the cooperation of ICE and the Phoenix Police Department

Family Values,....re-visited,

A real good candidate for citizenship,....this one.......

Link: http://www.azfamily.com/news/homepa...hild-molest-illegal-immigr.108c5a4e.html

MCSO: Illegal immigrant admits to molesting 12-y.o.

More Mesa and Phoenix Local News

03:02 PM Mountain Standard Time on Monday, August 25, 2008

MCSO / azfamily.com

The following news release was sent by MCSO:

MESA - The Maricopa County Sheriff�s Office Special Victims Unit arrested and booked into jail 24-year-old Jesus Martinez (DOB 06/15/84) on 1 count of child molestation, a class two felony and on four counts of sexual abuse, class three felonies.



Jesus Martinez, 24, is accused of molesting a 12-year-old girl.

Sheriff�s deputies began investigating the sexual abuse and molestation after the young victim�s mother found the 24-year-old illegal alien and the child kissing after the twelve-year-old left home, without permission to meet with him, at a late hour.

The victim told her mother that Martinez took her next to a tractor and began kissing her on the mouth and neck. The suspect kissed the victim�s breast area, where he left a �hickey�. Martinez then asked the child to leave him �hickeys� for his ex-wife to see.

The victim said she tried to leave several times by telling the suspect she was too young for him.

During the investigation Martinez made admission to the molestation and sexual abuse of the twelve-year-old girl.

�This is the fourth case in the last four months that the Sheriff�s Office has arrested an illegal alien, for rape of a young child and sexual abuse,� says Sheriff Arpaio. I have been accused by politicians and activists of not going after violent crime and last I checked a child being raped and sexually victimized is a violent crime.�

Should have just shot the bastard Sheriff Joe, would have been a hell of a lot cheaper! Shot 'Em, hang A Sign on them as to their Crime, and then Hang 'Em High ono the outskirts of the county. Les

Word I'm getting is that this is some sorta' obscene "Sport" in the view of the enactor / perpetrators.

Ya'll go study your handbook about human rights, now.

.........If you consider 'em "Human" to start oout with.

Bad attitude on the B.

GTC

Sport, sounds like we need to give them a 50 yard head start and start launching Bowling balls at them with mortars, hell line up about 50 Mortars and let 'em run. Les

C'mon,....Mississippi,....youcan do better'n this

Link: http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080825/NEWS01/80825015

Peniel Christian Church on South 14th Avenue in Laurel set up its own staging area today for undocumented workers who are afraid to go home or need a place to stay, or are trying to get information, said the Rev. Roberto Valez, pastor of the church.


He said the church had picked up children from schools in Jones County.

While a reporter and photographer were there, members of the church were preparing meals in the kitchen.

One undocumented worker said his wife, who worked at Howard Industries, called him this morning and said she did not think she would be able to go home and to take care of their �baby.� The couple has a 5-year-old. He said his wife is a painter at the plant.

Just so everyone's all square on this,.......we've had RAIN this year,....

...and flooding in places they did'nt know there's places,....

Lukeville woulda' been this deep without "Fence"

.........."all George Bushes Faul"t rhetoric, no more.

I wish we could keep that sorry azz main street that deep in H20 24-7-365,.......

the town where all the Sonorans collect their U.S. Welfare checks.

No,.....PEALLY ?

Yup,

GTC

Link: http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/hourlyupdate/254381

Hourly Update
Border fence design blasted as causing flooding
By Arthur H. Rotstein
The Associated Press
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 08.25.2008
advertisementTUCSON � Environmentalists say flooding caused by a new border security fence in southwestern Arizona shows the structure is being built too quickly and without regard for the environment.
Critics say the design of the border fence caused debris and water backup during a July 12 storm that led to flooding at the port of entry at Lukeville and Sonoyta, Mexico, and at the Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument.
"One of the reasons for it was the debris that accumulated on the fence itself," said Lee Baiza, superintendent of the monument, a 517-square-mile lush desert tract overseen by the National Park Service.
Environmental groups have criticized the manner in which the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and contractors for federal agencies have designed and built a range of fencing and vehicle barriers at various points along the Arizona-Mexico border.
In particular, they've denounced Homeland Defense Secretary Michael Chertoff's waiver of environmental laws to hasten construction as the Bush administration pushes to complete 670 miles of fences and other barriers by year's end along the nearly 2,000-mile Mexican border.
The barriers are intended to deter illegal immigrants and drug smugglers.
Critics have said the design of the pedestrian fencing being put in on the Arizona border is flawed. Much of that fencing consists of 10-foot wide and 15-foot tall steel-mesh panels, some featuring a series of wide horizontal grates at the bottom designed to let water and sediment flow through.
"While the Bush administration may claim it's taking environmental impacts of the border wall into consideration, building wire mesh fences across washes prone to debris-laden floods is fundamentally flawed," Robin Silver, a spokesman for the Center for Biological Diversity, said in a statement.
Defenders of Wildlife spokesman Matt Clark said what happened at Organ Pipe validates the warnings voiced to Homeland Security before construction started.
"It doesn't take an expert hydrologist to anticipate the potential for these walls to become like dams," Clark said, "especially in flash flood type of storms, where a lot of water and debris are generated very quickly and can pile up against the fences very rapidly."
He noted that rapidly moving runoff in washes dislodged or eroded large chunks of concrete foundations, and debris stacking up against the fence created barriers that redirected water, creating gullies and causing even more erosion.
Federal officials maintain that while Chertoff has invoked his waiver authority three times in Arizona, he has ordered Customs and Border Protection and Border Patrol officials to adhere to environmental requirements.
"We are still required to follow every environmental rule, regulation and policy," said Robert Gilbert, chief of the Border Patrol's Tucson sector. "He does not waive us doing what we would have to do without the waiver. So it doesn't change anything in the environment."
The Organ Pipe monument's staff produced a report earlier this month on the pedestrian fence's effect on the 330,000-acre monument's drainage systems and infrastructure.
It concluded that the fence failed to meet hydrologic performance standards of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers or standards set by the U.S. Border Patrol's final environmental assessment for the project.
That assessment determined that the 5.2-mile pedestrian fence would have no significant impact on the monument's environmental features.
But the recent monument report said its own staff had raised concerns last year over the fence-building plans, based on knowledge of local flash flooding.
The July 12 storm dumped as much as 2 inches of rain in about 90 minutes in the area, and water running through washes on the monument backed up as debris piled along the base of the fence.
It created pools up to seven feet deep and flows several hundred feet wide that eroded some areas along patrol roads. The waters even scoured some fence and vehicle barrier foundations.
"The monument had suggested that they take into consideration everything that can happen with a weather event," particularly an accumulation of debris, Baiza said. "We had a concern that this was going to happen."
Baiza said the fence designers are being asked to come back and study the drainages again to come up with alternatives.

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That loss was just a part of doing business. The Mex. criminal organizations are cooking meth. in industrial amounts. What was seized doesn't amount to piss in the ocean, as to what's getting through. I am glad they got it off the street though, but it's no major setback to the "tweekers".

Hunter, you are just always such a bright cheerful ray of sunshine .

Would killing "Tweekers" on sight be a "Setback".

I know ya'll "Officers" can't do that,.....job security and all,....

Some folks don't have those constraints.......or particularly want them.

While seeking solutions.

Just askin' like.

GTC