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Posted By: drover Sightron scopes - 02/13/21
Was wondering why no love for the Sightron scopes. I have owned a few of the S1 and S2 over the last couple of decades and they have performed way above their price point, good optics, tracking has been spot on and the ones I have owned were not made in China. I have never owned any of their upper level ones but I am guessing that they are also just as good, or possibly better, than their counterparts and generally at a more resonable price.

The optics in the S1 have been better than the Burris Fullfield ll and on a par with the Leupold VX-2 and yet they are never mentioned when it comes to bargain priced scopes. Poor marketing ??


drover
Posted By: RiverRider Re: Sightron scopes - 02/13/21
I have no idea why they're not more popular than they are. I have several of them...SIIs and some S-TACS, and they're good scopes. I REALLY like the Big Sky version of the SII...just scored another one tonight.
Posted By: Offshoreman Re: Sightron scopes - 02/13/21
Sightron doesn't do much marketing so most of its products existence is known through word of mouth.
Posted By: Jason280 Re: Sightron scopes - 02/13/21
The SII Big Skys are some of the best midrange scopes you can buy...
Posted By: Blackheart Re: Sightron scopes - 02/13/21
I've had three of the old Japanese S-1's. The first one had a dark spot on an interior lens so I sent it back. Sightron prompltly replaced it with one that was minus the dark spot. I was never impressed with the optical quality. It was definitely not as good as my Jap Weaver classics in that regard and cost almost the same. No reason it should be as bright as the Weavers since the S-1 only had fully coated optics with multi coating only on the exterior lenses while the Weavers were fully multi coated. Anyway, the S-1 fogged internally after two or three seasons so I sent it back, Sightron again promptly replaced it and since I was never real impressed I sold it. Oh and one more thing. Your eyes must be different from mine because in comparing ithe s-1 side by side with my aforementioned Weaver Classics as well as my Nikon pro staffs, Bushnell Elite 3200 and Leuplod vx-1's and 11's I found it optically inferior to all.
The s1 was inferior to my eye compared to the Burris Droptine. It was on par with the Bushnell Trophy XLT.
Posted By: Theoldpinecricker Re: Sightron scopes - 02/13/21
Recently picked up an STAC 2-10×32 with the hunting reticle. My Weaver and Burris scopes are a bit better optically but the truth is this $299 Sightron is plenty good. Besides, the most important function of an scope optic is maintaining zero and/or returning to zero. Having the most correct hi res no distortion optics is actually pretty far down on the list.
Posted By: Al_Nyhus Re: Sightron scopes - 02/13/21
I've been using Sightron stuff since they began as a company. Their higher end SIII LR 8-32's stuff rivals NF both optically and mechanically. Even in their lower S1 series, the tracking system remains of the same design...actually what I consider to be an improved version of the original Weaver Micro Track system. Alan Orr at Sightron is a competitive shooter himself, so he's well aware of what shooters need.

Their STac series are killer good scopes at very good prices. I'm damn impressed with the 5-20 version I have. The SII 4-12 A.O. model is another good one.

Good shootin'. -Al
Posted By: willycc Re: Sightron scopes - 02/13/21
Have SI,SII and SII Big Sky The SI never impressed me.The SII is a good scope much better than the SI.The Big Sky is a great scope especially for the money they closed them out for have 4 wish I would have bought more
Posted By: liliysdad Re: Sightron scopes - 02/13/21
I've had several..and they always seem just "almost" there. Good to great glass, mediocre reticles, cheesy turrets with no zero stop, etc...
Posted By: Razorhog Re: Sightron scopes - 02/13/21
Drover-

I agree with your opinion of Sightron. I've had several different models over the years with most being the SII's. Shot my largest whitetail with a 3x9 SI though. Better bang for the buck than several others.
Posted By: Sako76 Re: Sightron scopes - 02/13/21
I have a 4-20 S-Tac, best $300 scope I ever had. Glass is super clear. My only regret is that it doesn't have zero stop. I needed 1.5 MOA more on the 1000 yard range with my 6.5 Creedmoor.
Posted By: erich Re: Sightron scopes - 02/13/21
I've been using a S-II 1.5-6x4?mm on my coyote rifle for 16yrs and it has never let me down. It rides on my MC on the rough two-tracks down here and hold up well.

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I have or had 1.5-6x4?mm by a number of companies and the Sightron is top-notch.
Posted By: WAM Re: Sightron scopes - 02/13/21
I bought a SII 8 or 10 years ago and used it on .300 and 7mm Weatherby hard kickers for working up loads. Holds zero perfectly and glass is pretty good. I bought another one recently for a spare. The first one was made in Japan and the newest one in the Philippines. The old one is sitting on a new-to-me 7x57 to wring out the accuracy. I like to eliminate a scope as a possible reason for poor groups. Solid scopes. What you see is what you get.
Posted By: drover Re: Sightron scopes - 02/14/21
I like the S2 better than the S1 but the S1's I have owned have alway performed well, especially considering that they are bargain priced compared to comparable scopes in their price range.

I really don't understand why they don't advertise more and do more marketing.

drover
Posted By: 260Remguy Re: Sightron scopes - 02/14/21
A couple of years ago, Sightron S1H 4-12x40 AOs were selling on-line for around $120 and seemed like a good value to me. I bought six of them with pink accents which I assume were made that way for marketing toward girls and women. I called Sightron CS and they sent me black windage and elevation caps to replace the pink ones. I couldn't get rid of all of the pink accents, but changing the caps out made them look more "old guy" and less "young girl" to me.

I have them installed on a 10/22 and 5 RAR-Ps chambered in 223, 22-250, 243, 260, and 6.5 CM. Except for the 10/22, I haven't shot any of them a lot, but they seem to hold their zero just fine.

I did have a Sightron 3-9x32 rimfire that I didn't care for, as the view reminded me of the Weaver V10s, like looking through a magnified paper towel tube.
Posted By: dogcatcher223 Re: Sightron scopes - 02/14/21
I own three of them, two S-Tacs and an SIII Long Range. Great tracking, clarity and view seem on par with everyone else. My big gripe...those are the worst reticles. They are 15 years behind everyone else. Two of them have the "MOA" reticles and they are good for steel, but too thin for hunting. The other one I have is a duplex, and works like any other duplex. They need a reticle with numbered drops and wind holds. I still think they are the best cheap scope out there for dialing though.
Posted By: drover Re: Sightron scopes - 02/14/21
I am primarily a duplex user so the lack of drops and windholds doesn't bother me. I do have a couple of scopes with the drop dots in them and I have never found them particuarily useful, although I rarely shoot over 300 yds anyway. Even when shooting ground squirrels and PD's at 300 I just hold on the head instead of center body, guess I have just spent too many decades doing it that way to bother with anything else.

drover
Posted By: JimHnSTL Re: Sightron scopes - 02/14/21
Had a S2 6x HBR with fine cross hair on my rimfire and tracking was excellent. Optics were bright and clear and my only criticism would be that the eye box seemed a little critical. Not real bad but just enough to take note. It wasn’t an issue unless I spent extended time behind it. I have no experience with any of the newer recently made models.
Posted By: nuguy Re: Sightron scopes - 02/14/21
I had an SII and a BIG SKY SII. Both had extremely critical eye relief. Your eye had to be EXACTLY the perfect distance and lined up perfectly centered to get a full sight picture. The optics were really good though.
Posted By: Hudge Re: Sightron scopes - 02/14/21
I had a SIghtron S1 on a257 Roberts 15 years ago, and pulled it off before I sold the rifle. It's been sitting in my safe until September when the oldest bought a new Savage 22LR. I gave him the scope and he put in on the .22. After I shot it, I wondered why I didn't put it on another rifle instead of giving it to him.
Posted By: aalf Re: Sightron scopes - 02/14/21

I have a SIII 6-24x50 on a single shot 40-X rimfire, and regularly flog it up down and all around to 350 or better.

Tracking and RTZ has been great.

Takes 51 MOA to reach 350.......


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Posted By: snowboardguy Re: Sightron scopes - 02/14/21
Originally Posted by Theoldpinecricker
Recently picked up an STAC 2-10×32 with the hunting reticle. My Weaver and Burris scopes are a bit better optically but the truth is this $299 Sightron is plenty good. Besides, the most important function of an scope optic is maintaining zero and/or returning to zero. Having the most correct hi res no distortion optics is actually pretty far down on the list.


I'm interested in this one! Seems like a great option for a lightweight setup.
Posted By: dogcatcher223 Re: Sightron scopes - 02/15/21
Aalf, I have the same scope. I called around 9 months ago because they said you could get a retrofit zero stop installed, but didn't have it yet. Waited a few months,and called back and was told you couldn't. Not sure what the real story is anymore. Mine is on a 6 SLR and I regularly dial past one rotation so be nice to have ZS
Posted By: Crow hunter Re: Sightron scopes - 02/15/21
I've got a couple of SIII 8-32's and one SIII 6-24 on prairie dog rifles. They compare favorably to my nightforce 8-32 in tracking and glass quality. They don't have zero stops or illuminated reticles so they're not loaded with features, but they're great scopes.
Posted By: adam32 Re: Sightron scopes - 02/15/21
The new S-Tacs have Zero Stop.
Posted By: IDMilton Re: Sightron scopes - 02/15/21
I had the S3 6-24 x 50 on my 3084FTR. Perfect tracking and return to zero and great glass. Needed a zero stop
Posted By: Ndbowhunter Re: Sightron scopes - 02/15/21
Met a couple guys from I think it was twizel when I was up the Huxley forks valley that both ran the sightron 6-24 and both reported nothing but glowing reports after running them a few years.

They were as keen and fit hunters of upper middle age as i’ve Ever ran across. Literally 30-40 weekends a year tramping across the southern alps for Tahr, cham and stags.
Posted By: Clarkm Re: Sightron scopes - 02/15/21
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I have (4) Sightron scopes:

1) SIII 3.5 x10x 44 Mil dot $400 6/5/2014 ebay
2) SIII 3.5x 10x 44 MOA $550 6/10/2014 Ebay
3) SIII 3.5-10x44mm $709.99 01/09/18 Nachez
4) SIII 3.5-10x44mm Illuminated MOA-3 $752.00 04/01/18 Ebay

Browning 1885 7mmRM
Sav 110 280AI
Rem 700 7mmSTW
Dumoulin Mauser 6.5-06


What I like about Sightron scopes..... just about everything but the turrets are too easy to rotate. I like em child proof.
Posted By: aalf Re: Sightron scopes - 02/15/21
Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
Aalf, I have the same scope. I called around 9 months ago because they said you could get a retrofit zero stop installed, but didn't have it yet. Waited a few months,and called back and was told you couldn't. Not sure what the real story is anymore. Mine is on a 6 SLR and I regularly dial past one rotation so be nice to have ZS

If you noticed the scratching on the ammo box, the 40-X has a 40 MOA base on it, which gives me 82 MOA up, and 18 down.

So I'm just past one complete rotation off the bottom of the scope, so it's easy to remedy if I get lost on the dial.

So in reality, a zero stop would be nice, but it's not a necessity for me.
Posted By: cooper57m Re: Sightron scopes - 02/15/21
Originally Posted by JimHnSTL
Had a S2 6x HBR with fine cross hair on my rimfire and tracking was excellent. Optics were bright and clear and my only criticism would be that the eye box seemed a little critical. Not real bad but just enough to take note. It wasn’t an issue unless I spent extended time behind it. I have no experience with any of the newer recently made models.


I have that same scope on my Rem 541-THB rimfire. It's a great scope. I used the SII 36X and Big Sky 36X on my rimfire benchrest rifles and really liked them. There might be better optics out there but I wasn't bird watching. All I needed was to be able to clearly see the target and to have the scope make precise adjustments. The Sightron performed at a high level. I much preferred it to the Weaver and Leupold scopes that I tried on BR rifles.
Posted By: adam32 Re: Sightron scopes - 02/16/21
Originally Posted by aalf
Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
Aalf, I have the same scope. I called around 9 months ago because they said you could get a retrofit zero stop installed, but didn't have it yet. Waited a few months,and called back and was told you couldn't. Not sure what the real story is anymore. Mine is on a 6 SLR and I regularly dial past one rotation so be nice to have ZS

If you noticed the scratching on the ammo box, the 40-X has a 40 MOA base on it, which gives me 82 MOA up, and 18 down.

So I'm just past one complete rotation off the bottom of the scope, so it's easy to remedy if I get lost on the dial.

So in reality, a zero stop would be nice, but it's not a necessity for me.


What did people do before zero stops?

Oh that's right...slowed down and paid attention to what they were doing!!!!!!

If someone is deadset on needing a zero stop to get thru life then they need to go back and learn basic marksmanship.
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