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I recently grabbed my seldom used 10/22, removed the m1 carbine style aftermarket stock because it obstructed the iron sights. Put on the clubby factory stock and said yech! Decided to spruce it up by stripping the finish, staining it with a chestnut red minwax color (pretty sweet I gotta say) , and applying about a dozen coats of tru oil.

Turns out my eyes have aged to where I really can't use the iron sights so was looking for a scope. Decided on a variable rather than straight 4x as I think going <4 will be the norm.

Determined a 2-7x32 is THE fit. Along those lines my choices were constrained by budget and snooping wife.

Simmons WT- surprisingly good reviews. I know, Simmons??? really? ......but...

Bushnell- I am usually a supporter of even their inexpensive lines but ....not this one so much....

Weaver Kaspa- cuz I love Weavers adjusmtents, loved my old K models, recommended a few Grand Slams, always felt Weavers under appreciated BUT ....can one really call a Kaspa a Weaver????

Mueller- a bit more pricey and not sure they have done anything to improve their line in years

Hawke Vantage . Price is right and it seems a more modern variant than the others. This one gave me warm fuzzy. Anyone have experience with it?

For mounts was looking at the one piece base DNZ or Weigand type but ended up with the 2-piece Talley's that have the built in base. A little cheaper and seem to me to be attractive...and who is going to argue against buying Talleys.
The carbine stocks have a low rise, not the best fit for getting eye alignment with a scope.

I recommend swapping the stock for an American style modular stock with the standard LOP and high comb module installed. S&P has these stock in black and green for around $50, but they come with the low comb module and the high comb modules run around $25.

The Bushnell A17 3.5-10x36AO isn't a bad scope for rimfire applications and CDNN is selling them for around $50.

A friend of mine recently scoped 4 10/22s with Chinese counterfeit copies of the Leupold 2-7x33 that he bought for around $60 on eBay and he seems to be happy with them.
I have a few of the hawke Vantage scopes and a couple of the earlier Sport HD scopes in 4x with AO, 2-7 with AO and 3-9 with AO. All have been solid and are brighter than I had expected. For a rimfire the AO models are a good buy. A couple of mine have mil-dots and the dots make good holdover references. I have used but not owned a couple of Kaspas and was disappointed with the clarity. The Simmons .22 mag is brighter than expected for the price, but I haven't owned one so can't comment on durability. They also only come in 4x and 3-9x32.
My 4X Hawke Vantage(s) are plenty good enough to suggest trying the 2-7. Save your receipt, LOL, they are covered for your lifetime.


The Redfield Revolution 2-7s are dandy little scopes.
260Remguy- hi and thanks - you too Leon.

Well I want to keep the stock I have since I spent several weeks refinishing iti. Guess I should have posted sooner huh.

I am not familiar with S&P so I went to check them out . If I got to the right place the website looks off kilter on the browser I was using. I will try again though.

Leon yeah - what you wrote is kind of what I had been hearing. I hate any blot on Weaver but stick to the known, good, models. Yes I am a snob for poo pooing Simmons out of hand but back in the day cheap Simmons and Bushnell's were about all we had. In reality neither are so bad one can't use them as I cannot recall ever hearing first hand of one actually breaking. After years of this forum and dozens of purchases, typically spending hundreds on a new scope and being THAT guy talking all my friends and relatives into spending more money it is hard to go there- ya know?
Originally Posted by kenjs1
260Remguy- hi and thanks - you too Leon.

Well I want to keep the stock I have since I spent several weeks refinishing iti. Guess I should have posted sooner huh.

I am not familiar with S&P so I went to check them out . If I got to the right place the website looks off kilter on the browser I was using. I will try again though.

Leon yeah - what you wrote is kind of what I had been hearing. I hate any blot on Weaver but stick to the known, good, models. Yes I am a snob for poo pooing Simmons out of hand but back in the day cheap Simmons and Bushnell's were about all we had. In reality neither are so bad one can't use them as I cannot recall ever hearing first hand of one actually breaking. After years of this forum and dozens of purchases, typically spending hundreds on a new scope and being THAT guy talking all my friends and relatives into spending more money it is hard to go there- ya know?


www.sapoutfitters.com

I didn't think that I'd like the Bushnell A17 when I got one, but it has decent optics, the magnification range works well with rimfire rifles, and the 36mm objective is small enough such that it doesn't overwhelm the rifle. I've bought several more to go on 17HM2s, 17HMRs, 22LRs, and 22MAGs.
Cool 260 -thanks for the link. Definitely not where I was going before so looking forward to checking them out. kind of thinking the BX trigger might be in my future. Seems like the extended mag release on it makes the cost worth it. Almost wish my factory trigger sucked so I could justify it but alas...it is nice and crisp.
I like BX triggers, but always swap the extended magazine release that comes on them for an under-lever style from Bastion or Timber Creek. I also replace the steel bolt stop buffer pin with a synthetic unit.
I put a Nikon Rimfire prostaff II on mine and I've been very impressed with it. The BX trigger is also a great upgrade.
Mounted a Nikon Prostaff 2-7 on mine last night

Will try it out this weekend
I took a look at the Prostaff especially after helping a friend buy a combo for an old rifle of his. His prior scope was I think older than he was and the new Prostaff blew his mind. I posted it on it here some time back. Great choice but It was just a little more than my wife....I mean ahem I wanted to spend for my 22.

So on the synthetic bolt stop buffer.....what does that do for ya? Make things a little easier on the mechanism or ???


Hey while we are on this subject- what ammo do y'all favor? CCI seems to be a safe consensus and the standard velocity got praise for accuracy. I had a few fte on them last outing. I kind of thought sticking with 40g a better idea for squirrels and what not but are the Stingers a better way to go?
The synthetic bolt stop buffer eliminates the "clack" sound when the action cycles. It has been sold as a way to prevent the steel bolt stop buffer from causing the alloy receiver to crack, but I've never seen evidence of that actually happening. Sort of the 10/22 version of fuzzy dice.
About what I thought.

I think this rifle will turn out to be a be a slow ,no hurry, project of small updates for fun. Sort of a new found joy after putting the effort in to the stock.

I would really love a consensus on ammo. Guess once I have a scope on it I can start checking that myself.
I have 10/22's with optics ranging from red dots up to a Weaver V-16. Some have aftermarket barrels and some not. Just depends on what you are going to do with the rifle.

The only way to determine the best ammo is to try different types. I like Aguila standard velocity for a cheap plinking round that still provides decent accuracy. More pricey standard velocity ammo will usually give better accuracy but Eley and Lapua ammo is pretty expensive. CCI standard velocity shoots pretty well in most rifles and is only slightly more expensive than Aguila.
I have a 10/22 project that's ongoing. So far, I have a Shilen sporter barrel, hogue stock and BX trigger group, talley lightweight rings and a Nikon prostaff scope. It has a great weight/balance and is incredibly accurate. I shoot the Winchester 37 grain superspeed HP. Actually shot and killed both a bobcat and a coyote with it recently.

My next upgrade will be a Tactical Innovations stainless receiver.
If you're shooting for accuracy, try Eley, Lapua, RWS, and Wolf. I've never known a .22 that didn't have a brand, style, and bullet weight preference. For plinking and casual shooting there are lots of bulk pack options.
bowmanh- I thought about a red dot and started looking at them and reflex. How do you like them compared to the more standard types etc...
Mine as a 4x38 Weaver, personally I'd skip the Kaspa and just get a "K".
There are still some of the Hawke Endurance LER 2-7s to be had, on Amazon and EABCO, last time I checked. Better scope than the Vantage, and about $100 now on clearance. Parallax is set for 100 yards, but if you keep your eye lined up right, no problem. I have two, and ain't letting them go. Illuminated reticle too.
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
The synthetic bolt stop buffer eliminates the "clack" sound when the action cycles. It has been sold as a way to prevent the steel bolt stop buffer from causing the alloy receiver to crack, but I've never seen evidence of that actually happening. Sort of the 10/22 version of fuzzy dice.

It is more than sound. Tha jarring will eat cheap scopes quickly.
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
The synthetic bolt stop buffer eliminates the "clack" sound when the action cycles. It has been sold as a way to prevent the steel bolt stop buffer from causing the alloy receiver to crack, but I've never seen evidence of that actually happening. Sort of the 10/22 version of fuzzy dice.

It is more than sound. Tha jarring will eat cheap scopes quickly.


I've read/heard that 10/22s were hard on scopes and could shake a poorly constructed scope loose, but I hadn't heard that swapping from the factory installed steel bolt stop buffer to an after-market synthetic unit would reduce or eliminate that issue.

Just goes to show that as long as you keep your eyes and ears open, you'll keep learning new things.
Take a peek at this sale on riflescopes all under $500.00. There's a few great options here.
Thanks guys I did settle on the 2-7x32 Vantage keeping it under $100. My original thought was the Weaver K but wanted to try something new and had not checked out a Hawke before.

I recently started migrating away from fixed powers after years and years of strictly 6x on hunting rifles. The newer scopes are just brighter than they used to be, have good features, AND I found myself liking 2-4x much of the time. Field of view etc...

I am interested in any other 1022 tidbits so I hope this thread doesn't die- you guys have been great. Would love some feedback on red dots and halosites etc....

Oh, before I forget where is the best place to get the buffer?
I have an old Redfield accutrac on mine. I sighted it in at 25 yards, moved target to 50 yards, counted the clicks to get on at 50, did the same every 25 yards out to two hundred yards. If I can get the distance correct, I can hit if I make a steady shot out to two hundred.
Well my ss 10/22 with plastic Ruger stock has an old Balfour 4x on it. My ss build gun with a boyd's thumbhole and Green mmtn bull has a Leupold 2x7 Rimfire model and damn it's nice,love that scope on the 22. MB
Originally Posted by kenjs1
Thanks guys I did settle on the 2-7x32 Vantage keeping it under $100. My original thought was the Weaver K but wanted to try something new and had not checked out a Hawke before.

I recently started migrating away from fixed powers after years and years of strictly 6x on hunting rifles. The newer scopes are just brighter than they used to be, have good features, AND I found myself liking 2-4x much of the time. Field of view etc...

I am interested in any other 1022 tidbits so I hope this thread doesn't die- you guys have been great. Would love some feedback on red dots and halosites etc....

Oh, before I forget where is the best place to get the buffer?


I think that I've bought all of my synthetic buffers on eBay.
Originally Posted by kenjs

Oh, before I forget where is the best place to get the buffer?


I think I have an extra. Send me your addy in a pm and I’ll send it to you if I can find it.
I had a 3-9x40 Simmons on mine but it got bent. Anyway, I've got an old 1979 model Steel Tube Weaver k-6 I'm putting on it.

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Clearly you need a Nightforce! grin
10-50x56 sightron siii
Confession time - I got my scope and proceeded to do what I discovered millions of others have done - stripped out the front scope mount screw hole by over tightening the steel screws provided with the Talleys.
I disassembled, cleaned and degreased and and merely applied some metal epoxy in there to hold the screw in place- I know I know- but the three others screws are holding fast already.

Hammer - got your 56mm suggestion too late - darn it - wink

I smeared a little silicon in the rings, remounted the Hawke. Next day I proceeded to crank the stiff power ring to and fro a few times and it seemed to free it up a bit.

260guy - I bought a buffer from Midway. Judging by descriptions of others I looked at this one is a bit more substantial and seems a quality part. Don't know why or how some people had issues installing. Was less than trivial.

I thought the 32 mm scope would look a tad more ...svelte.. but got to say over all after the refinish ...the rig looks pretty sweet right now.

Now, if only my non-Nightforce can miraculously track minute of squirrel under the punishment of even 22lr. Some of you know what I mean! :-)
Have you considered a red dot instead of a scope? I put an inexpensive TruGlo red/green dot on my 10/22 and I really like it.

https://www.cabelas.com/product/sho...80/truglo-reddot-mm/2000068.uts?slotId=5
Brownells has a fix for stripped 10/22 scope base holes.
Its a slightly larger than 6-48 screw. Still 48 threads per inch, just larger OD..........and the head will fit in a scope base designed for 6-48.
The tap and a dozen screws is about 40 bucks.

https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-...versize-6-48-screw-shop-kit-prod795.aspx
FWIW we have three 10/22's at my house.

Target model (build) wears Leupold Freedom EFR 3-9X (has AO).
Hunter wears a Leupold VX1 2-7X (needs parallax adjusted). Can run up to 4X at 25 yards and close to 6x at 50 yards, but not 7X and stay focused.
The plinkster wears a Bushnell TRS25 reddot.

All have 6-48 screws (but if I do booger one I have the fix ready). LOL
Kit was bought to fix a different rig a while back.
Not a 22lr but i put a Styrka S5 3-9x40 sf with plex reticle on my 17hmr. Very very pleased with the scope. And at $129 its even sweeter
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