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Posted By: steveredd1 Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
What's the best penetrating oil out there now, to be used on 18 year old truck control rms
Posted By: Stickfight Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Kroil
Posted By: earlybrd Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
PB
Posted By: EdM Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Originally Posted by Stickfight
Kroil

Has worked for me for many years.
Posted By: Morewood Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
I read underground Greek olive oil works great.
Posted By: BigDave39355 Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Don’t spoil it, Kroil it..
Posted By: kolofardos Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Originally Posted by Morewood
I read underground Greek olive oil works great.
Nice! grin
Posted By: Timbermaster Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Kroil. I was a skeptic. This stuff works. Not just on nuts and bolts either. Any thing rust seized together is a candidate for kroil.
Posted By: BeanMan Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Hot wrench.
Posted By: Westman Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Kroil or ATF and acetone
Posted By: 12344mag Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
25% ATF, 75% Acetone.
Posted By: Mr_TooDogs Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Kroil if you have time. Mexican speed wrench if you need it off now.
Posted By: Hotrod_Lincoln Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
50/50 cheap Walmart generic ATF and acetone- - - - -25% of the price of KROIL and just as effective.
Posted By: reivertom Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Originally Posted by steveredd1
What's the best penetrating oil out there now, to be used on 18 year old truck control rms

Depends on what it is, but heating cherry red and quenching works when Kroil, etc. won't.
Posted By: dassa Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
KY jelly.

I quit reading after 18 year old.
Posted By: tikkanut Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Originally Posted by steveredd1
What's the best penetrating oil out there now, to be used on 18 year old truck control rms



Kroil & heat gun
Posted By: bugs4 Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Free All
Posted By: NVhntr Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Spoiler - Liquid Wrench


Posted By: cra1948 Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Kroil. It works so well and is so convenient in the 4 oz (or whatever) squeeze can it’s crazy to mess with anything else.
Posted By: kolofardos Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Not sure why everyone is saying Kroil. It's pretty much crap, as are most penetrating oils compared to acetone and ATF. Heat works better anyways if you can get in there with a torch.
Posted By: Dillonbuck Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Originally Posted by tikkanut
Originally Posted by steveredd1
What's the best penetrating oil out there now, to be used on 18 year old truck control rms



Kroil & heat gun


ASTRO Glide is nice.

KY Warming is hard to beat!
Posted By: las Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Originally Posted by Westman
Kroil or ATF and acetone

I've have wondered- does the acetone evaporate out of the mixture over time, or do you mix up a fresh batch frequently?
Posted By: tdoyka Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
i use Kroil overnite and when it has to done right now its liquid wrench.
Posted By: 7mm_Loco Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
PB Blaster... if that doesn't do it, lite the torch...
Posted By: GringoCazador Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
50/50 cheap Walmart generic ATF and acetone- - - - -25% of the price of KROIL and just as effective.

This!

If ya don’t have this just use wd40 it works too.
Posted By: steveredd1 Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Originally Posted by 7mm_Loco
PB Blaster... if that doesn't do it, lite the torch...


That's what I been spraying on it
Posted By: MarkWV Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
PB Blaster got my Bolens tiller to running again.
Posted By: waterrat Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Originally Posted by Westman
Kroil or ATF and acetone
Yep,,,About 5 yrs now,,nothing better!
Posted By: las Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
WD40 is NOT as effective as Kroil!
Posted By: AKCHOPPER Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Originally Posted by bugs4
Free All

This.
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Snake oil
Posted By: Malcolm Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Lloyds Moovit . Way better than wd40. It works. Got it from a truck driver. Should be available there too
Posted By: 7mm_Loco Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Originally Posted by steveredd1
Originally Posted by 7mm_Loco
PB Blaster... if that doesn't do it, lite the torch...


That's what I been spraying on it
heat with torch, spray with PB... remove fastener...
Posted By: AcesNeights Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
PB Blaster and Kroil are great. Ballistol is a good one too. I found a new bottle of 3 in 1 oil in the rectangle can in my father in law’s tool cabinet and I proceeded to oil a bunch of crescent wrenches, pliers and other tools…I love the old stuff too.
Posted By: DigitalDan Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Kroil
Posted By: hookeye Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Go to a company that works w big $ machinery and see what they use.
Posted By: STRSWilson Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Originally Posted by NVhntr
Spoiler - Liquid Wrench


Project Farm is one of the first places I go for "which is best" type questions. He's pretty much tested about everything I will ever need.
Posted By: OldmanoftheSea Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Dribble some used diff oil then top with your favorite light oil.
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Kroil

That's what I've gone to using.

I give it time to work, though. If I have something that needs it, I'll spray it the day before I plan on working on it. Or if I find a stuck part, I'll spray it and just let it sit until the next day.

Patience beats a lot of cussing and frustration every time. smile
Posted By: Feral_American Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Originally Posted by 7mm_Loco
Originally Posted by steveredd1
Originally Posted by 7mm_Loco
PB Blaster... if that doesn't do it, lite the torch...


That's what I been spraying on it
heat with torch, spray with PB... remove fastener...

Did we do the same maintenance crew gig with the same boss man?

That was his SOP on anything and everything stuck.
Posted By: hillestadj Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
KY
Posted By: WayneShaw Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Diesel fuel does a decent job too.
Posted By: mdatlanta Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
As others have said, a mixture of 50% ATF & 50% Acetone seems to as well as anything and better than most.
Posted By: TNrifleman Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Kroil
Posted By: Nail Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
I'm a fan of Kroil but I also would not refute Project Farm results.

I don't know if there are different formulations of Kroil or not, I've used the stuff in the tin can with plastic spout myself and used it to remove a couple seized spark plugs. It took a while to do the job but it worked.
Posted By: DigitalDan Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Back about 15 years ago I purchased a 100+ year old ML target rifle, of about 7mm caliber as I recall. It shot poorly and I decided to pull the breech plug so it could be slugged to ascertain bore dims. Breech plug said KMA. Put about 3” of Kroil in a jar, set the barrel in and let it soak overnight. Next day it unscrewed with finger pressure.
Posted By: gunswizard Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
At my employer they decided to do a test of available penetrating oils, they bought a can of each and gave them to the guys in the shop for evaluation. Kroil came out as the most effective followed by Nut-Z-Lube and PB Blaster. I've always used Kroil.
Posted By: Hotrod_Lincoln Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
For some reason, Kano Laboratories has stopped selling KROIL direct from their website. Now it says "contact a dealer". I used to buy it in bulk- - - -a gallon at a time cost about $100.00. The aerosol cans are outrageously expensive.
Posted By: TooOldToCare Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Sea Foam Deep Creep
Posted By: mrmeener Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
nobody can beat project farm testing and he showed kroil PB and other top brands useless. good old liquid wrench was one of the best. watch the video. I made a batch of the ATF and acetone worked real good but when you store it then want to use it refresh the acetone
Posted By: shaman Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Originally Posted by mrmeener
nobody can beat project farm testing and he showed kroil PB and other top brands useless. good old liquid wrench was one of the best. watch the video. I made a batch of the ATF and acetone worked real good but when you store it then want to use it refresh the acetone

Yes. I use PB Blaster for all but the hard jobs. However, I keep ATF and acetone handy as separate components and then mix them up as needed for the hard stuff. I also use them to mix small batches of Ed's Red-- ATF, Acetone, Kerosene, and Mineral Spirits in equal parts. Ed's Red has become my go-to for gun cleaning. I leave out the Acetone unless I'm dealing with shotgun fouling.
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Originally Posted by mrmeener
nobody can beat project farm testing and he showed kroil PB and other top brands useless. good old liquid wrench was one of the best. watch the video. I made a batch of the ATF and acetone worked real good but when you store it then want to use it refresh the acetone


Well, there are tests, and there are tests..

Just this summer I had to change out blades on my rotary cutter. They are held in place by steel bolts with nuts on the underside of the cutter, where they are exposed to the rust and corrosion of plant liquids, as well as the constant hammering of sand and rocks. It'd been 3 years since done, and in humidity and and heat to boot.

First attempt at removing a nut resulted in a twisted off bolt at the face of the carrier.

Added Kroil around the remaining nuts and let it sit for a day and tried it the following day. All nuts came loose immediately.

I don't think I'd call Kroil "useless".
Posted By: Rick n Tenn Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Kroil

That's what I've gone to using.

I give it time to work, though. If I have something that needs it, I'll spray it the day before I plan on working on it. Or if I find a stuck part, I'll spray it and just let it sit until the next day.

Patience beats a lot of cussing and frustration every time. smile



I have seen a lot of damages cause they didn't have patience . Spray a whole can of Kroil and then immediately hit it with 1500 ft lbs impact .
Posted By: mrmeener Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by mrmeener
nobody can beat project farm testing and he showed kroil PB and other top brands useless. good old liquid wrench was one of the best. watch the video. I made a batch of the ATF and acetone worked real good but when you store it then want to use it refresh the acetone


Well, there are tests, and there are tests..

Just this summer I had to change out blades on my rotary cutter. They are held in place by steel bolts with nuts on the underside of the cutter, where they are exposed to the rust and corrosion of plant liquids, as well as the constant hammering of sand and rocks. It'd been 3 years since done, and in humidity and and heat to boot.

First attempt at removing a nut resulted in a twisted off bolt at the face of the carrier.

Added Kroil around the remaining nuts and let it sit for a day and tried it the following day. All nuts came loose immediately.

I don't think I'd call Kroil "useless".
I am glad kroil got the job done for you. 3-4 times a year I use a power washer and blast all the garbage out from under the mower
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by mrmeener
nobody can beat project farm testing and he showed kroil PB and other top brands useless. good old liquid wrench was one of the best. watch the video. I made a batch of the ATF and acetone worked real good but when you store it then want to use it refresh the acetone


Well, there are tests, and there are tests..

Just this summer I had to change out blades on my rotary cutter. They are held in place by steel bolts with nuts on the underside of the cutter, where they are exposed to the rust and corrosion of plant liquids, as well as the constant hammering of sand and rocks. It'd been 3 years since done, and in humidity and and heat to boot.

First attempt at removing a nut resulted in a twisted off bolt at the face of the carrier.

Added Kroil around the remaining nuts and let it sit for a day and tried it the following day. All nuts came loose immediately.

I don't think I'd call Kroil "useless".

Well life on the farm is kinda laid back.....
Posted By: hookeye Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Tried PB, and a couple others, way back when working on Jeeps (suspension/lift kits).
No air tools.

Coworker said try this and handed me a can of Aero Kroil.

I laughed. Figured it was same as the others.
Nope.

It worked.

Stinky stuff though.

Been to two major corporations w big equipment, and they use Kroil.

Hmmmmm.
Posted By: tdoyka Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
to get the rear sights off of my 1898 Springfield Armory (30-40 Krag, 1903) i had to use Kroil every day, twice a day, for 4 days. i did 2 to 3 drops of Kroil (not aerosol) on the screws every night. on the fourth day i took the screws out by hand, not a screwdriver. i was amazed at Kroil. no buggered up slotted head, just 2 or 3 drops Kroil every night, till it comes out.

the rear sights screws were probably set at the time the rifle came out from the factory(1903 - 2013). i saved the screws and the rear sight (put on a Redfield 102K aperture sight) , because i can't find the screws that go into a Krag. the screw thread count is NOT standard or metric, instead it is French design which is no longer used. to protect the threads in the rifle, i lit up a candle and dripped hot candle wax into the threads after i degreased them.

i use Kroil on stuck bolts and screws overnight or if i try them the next day and its still tight, i'll use Kroil overnight again and again until its loose. i've used PB Blaster, WD40, acetone with ATF, brake cleaner and some other stuff, but Kroil is my go to and if i have to unscrew or unbolt it right now, Liquid Wrench aerosol is next in line.
Posted By: cra1948 Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Originally Posted by mrmeener
.. he showed kroil PB and other top brands useless...

Absolute bullschitt.
Posted By: Szumi Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
I tend to use PB blaster. Never heard about atf and acetone before. One thing I try to do is spray what I'm taking apart a day or two before I'm putting a wrench to it. Hard to do if it just broke and you got to get it running but often I know I'll be working on it a head of time.
Posted By: okie Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Originally Posted by mrmeener
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by mrmeener
nobody can beat project farm testing and he showed kroil PB and other top brands useless. good old liquid wrench was one of the best. watch the video. I made a batch of the ATF and acetone worked real good but when you store it then want to use it refresh the acetone


Well, there are tests, and there are tests..

Just this summer I had to change out blades on my rotary cutter. They are held in place by steel bolts with nuts on the underside of the cutter, where they are exposed to the rust and corrosion of plant liquids, as well as the constant hammering of sand and rocks. It'd been 3 years since done, and in humidity and and heat to boot.

First attempt at removing a nut resulted in a twisted off bolt at the face of the carrier.

Added Kroil around the remaining nuts and let it sit for a day and tried it the following day. All nuts came loose immediately.

I don't think I'd call Kroil "useless".
I am glad kroil got the job done for you. 3-4 times a year I use a power washer and blast all the garbage out from under the mower


mr meenie works on his mower 3 maybe 4 times a year ... a true mechanical genius
Posted By: hanco Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
I use Kroil
Posted By: earlybrd Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
Tri flow is another good one
Posted By: jackmountain Re: Penetrating oil - 10/07/23
PB blaster and a 48” pipe wrench with a 8’ piece of iron pipe slid over the handle as a breaker bar.
Posted By: BeardedGunsmith Re: Penetrating oil - 10/08/23
Found the CAS data on Kroil. Here's the ingredient list and percentage of each.
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Posted By: Reloder28 Re: Penetrating oil - 10/08/23
Originally Posted by las
WD40 is NOT as effective as Kroil!


It was not designed to be a penetrating oil. It was designed to a Water Displacement. It took 39 failed formula’s to get it right. Thus, WD40.

Kroil was designed to be a penetrant.
Posted By: ring3 Re: Penetrating oil - 10/08/23
The plant I work at has always used Kroil. Silikroil to be more specific. Recently the cans are no longer labeled as Silikroil but rather Kroil with added silicone. In any event, 25+ years it’s been a mainstay.

When putting things back together Fluid Film has gained respect. Stuff is great at preventing rust and seized parts. Use it everyday.

Chemical plant. Produces Chlorine and Caustic. Extremely corrosive to many materials.
Posted By: SDLEFTY Re: Penetrating oil - 10/08/23
On the ranch I use pb for penetration and fluidfilm for protection. Seems I get along fine w that combination. Really like fluidfilm. Seems to keep the rust out. Most fertilizer trailers are coated in the stuff after spring.
Posted By: JGRaider Re: Penetrating oil - 10/08/23
Kroil for the easy win.
Posted By: Upperplainsman Re: Penetrating oil - 10/08/23
The gal at Walmart looked at me kind of weird when I asked about where to find it.
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