Hardass can't get his body camera on for some odd reason.

The total show.

https://www.justiceforvivian.com/videos

Fugger needs a shovel up the side of his head....

When this ends up in court, the cop will start crying and blubbering "I just wanted to make it home alive and see my little son!! It was a close call for me out on the mean streets!!!"

Cops aren’t gentle if they have to remove you from a vehicle.

This happened in the county next to the county I live in. The office has only been on the force since Oct 2023. The news paper report indicated this isn't the first altercation he has been involved in.

That OP pic certainly put a serious twist on that gal.

Why did he "have" to remove her from the vehicle?

HandyMan will be along shortly to justify this, followed that c2 dipschit

That’s just a clickbait picture

He has learned very well.

https://www.21alivenews.com/2024/04...duct-during-traffic-stop-involving-teen/

Go Fùck yourself coçksucker. Worthless do nothing old bìtch.

I don't know anything about this and don't care about it.

Guess he didn't "have" to remove her from the vehicle.

What do you tell a woman with 2 black eyes ?? Noting, you have already tried twice.

I didn't watch the video and I don't know what happened to trigger this guy. But, refusing to have a conversation with an on duty officer can lead to bad things when he has a good reason to stop you. In 32 years I only had to manhandle a young female once. Her mother was standing there watching it and wasn't upset with me. The girl went to juvenile detention with the mother's blessings.

kwg

It's obvious you didn't watch the video.

Your opening joke does bring up a related issue.

https://img.ifunny.co/images/f6fa810d6151186702d7cb983b5ca0550fe173cb3c45215504dc6e2570134bd0_1.webp

You should watch the video. Polite little girl wasn’t refusing anything. Appeared to be looking for her ID. City’s gonna fund her college expenses and bad cop gonna be unemployed. And rightly so.

Sounds like she refused to identify herself. On the video, it appears he spent a good deal of time trying to talk her out. Then he took her out.

The dad didn’t seem to even care.

What a dick.

Her Dad seems to care after seeing the video.

Cop tells dad: “She was assisted out of the vehicle; placed in custody.” Interesting way to phrase it. Her ID must have been out by then, because it landed on the ground when he tossed her down. The only time the cop sounds pleasant is when he’s trying to justify his actions to her dad.

Why unemployed? If that city follows the previous example, he can go to the next town.

Your response coincidentally matches the lawyer's statement about the "thin blue line".

Sadly, you’re probably right. The cost of his actions will just keep getting passed to the local taxpayers. All the while, decent cops get tarred with the stains he leaves behind.

Resisting was kinda ok in this incident.

That scared high school girl wearing a letterman jacket is a potential terrorist in that jackboot's eyes and deserves the face-down grind on the asphalt power move.

If that was my kin I'm suing the schit out of everybody.

We need some kind of a registration system for bad cops. Get fired for excessive force or a civil rights violation and you have to register, like a sex offender. Higher a registered offender and if he violate the rights of more citizens, who ever hired him is held personally liable, in addition to the department and offender.

That punk needs an ass beating, bad!

Doing away with the bs creation of false arrest and treating it as kidnapping would go a long way towards reducing the frequency of these incidents.

Actually, the internet and YouTube are that kind of registry. This cop will be briefly famous, in a bad way. Future searches will probably turn up this video. At least I hope so.

Her Dad cared exactly the right amount. He came down and made sure the girl was no longer being mishandled, or abused. His presence was all that was necessary to protect her interests. Apparently he followed to the Police Station, posted bail, and took her home.

There could be no profit in engaging the officers on the street. The time for that is later, in the court room, and via the 'net, the court of public opinion.

The school football team needs to "assist" the cop to the nearest chain link fence- - - - -and help him inspect a hundred feet of it with his nose. Three or four times.

Yup. The cop’s demeanor changed the instant dad showed up. I think he knew he was gonna be in deep doo-doo. I noticed the backup officer, who knew the family, got out of there quickly.

That cop is a disgrace and so is how they handled him. NOBODY else would have gotten away with that crying act.

Thought provoking.

If the store video time is the same as the YouTube video. From the time her car came into view- to the time she was manhandled onto the wet parking lot is less than two minutes.

I saw a video a while back , a cop pulled an elderly lady over because she had a tail-light and brake-light out on the rear of her older car. He gave her a warning and offered to come to her home when he got off of work and fix her - and he did just that.
One in many-many thinks like that .....

Some cops are dicks, and cowards that enjoy intimidating women.

He needs some jail time

exactly the right post. Norm

Then after the courtroom and 'net, some dark alley justice.

that Piece Of Schit cop can not control his emotions and is a liar and and a danger to the public... needs to be arrested/convicted and never allowed to be involved in Law Enforcement or carry a firearm...

Boy howdy, he is tough. He should do MMA.

That cop is on a power trip and it needs to end. He has issues to say the least.

Ya'll caught the part where the father said his Dad was retired hwy. patrol. I'm betting the Dad is not stupid to the system and knew exactly how to handle the situation. I'm also betting that he knew his daughter was guilty of nothing more than the stated faulty headlight and minor speeding.
There's a time and place for everything and Dad knew that right then was not the right time to argue with that cop.

I suspect he'll let the lawyer do the arguing and Indiana taxpayers are going to be toting the note in the end.

Where are all of the "just comply" comments that we see in these discussions. We wouldn't be having this conversation if she had just complied, would we?

I find it interesting that the guy narrates the video in the beginning and relays what 'Mom says but doesn't play the audio while the cop is talking to her just before he arrests her, but then the audio is played when he's pissed to show he's a bad man.


Try again.

I think the cop needs to learn a little more patience with 18 year old girls but then again it appears she refused to get out of the car when told to do so.

That's the only thing left that will reinstall the respect for the citizenry that they supposedly serve, back into these taxpayer funded thugs. This blue POS should get a private, surprise visit from some men in that community. When he heals up, maybe his attitude and respect for the townsfolk will be improved.

His colleagues and town council are ok with his behavior.

https://www.wfft.com/news/town-coun...9953c82-fc37-11ee-8c5a-4795b726229f.html

Seems likely you knew this, but in case others didn't catch it, the reason there is no audio is because he didn't turn his bodycam on.

Cop's a dick! Needs an attitude adjustment and find a new line of work! Pay the girl!

The cops there are ok with his actions and the town.gov is too.

Yeah.

I disagree with the narrative on the family.
My take?
I heard "It's a good family". From the backup.

Then he advised the ass, not on how to deal with a bad family, but that these were
good, smart, people. Not white trash, but folks with brains, money, and standing in the community.

"Good family" doesn't mean innocence at all.

I'm pretty piassed at the backup cop. He obviously knew what was going on,
but instead of trying to right it, he jumped into the cover up.
So untypical from the honest self-policing policies and traditions in law enforcement.

No they aren't.
On advice of consul that was their response.
To come out and call him a POS that they shouldn't have had on the payroll would
be an admission of guilt played in the civil trial.

So, they publicly support their officers. (Also a morale play)
While everyone knows the deal.
That makes an eventual settlement more likely and cheaper.
Something done quietly, with a gag order and everything buried.
That then protects the elected officials, the police chief, and even makes it more like for Officer Bad Ass to move on the Serve and Protect other helpless citizens.
So he can eventually get his 20 year retirement for a Life of Unselfishly Serving the Citizens.

I just glanced through it but I did catch the anti cop narration of the narrator.

Because of the anti cop narration it leads one who wa to to remain unemotional and find the truth to not believe the guys whe story.

Like I said I think the cop needs to learn to have more patience with a 18 year old girl. He should probably be disciplined and take a few classes but beaten, fi e ed, and jailed. Naw.

That cop is a liabilty to that small town and the towns ins. rates are probably going to get jacked once the lawsuit for civil rights violations is settled.
Can anyone say higher property taxes due to the cities liabilty ins. going up? Thanks officer schmuck.

What are you waiting for? Go do the right thing, you even know where to find him.

How many black eyes has your wife had ? Did you train her good ?

But you will state an opinion.

Why? You ever heard of the 5th amendment ? No good can come from conversing with cops. No need to !

Good job staying safe out there !!

I'm thinking you might have a different opinion, were it your wife /daughter/grand daughter in that video.

Dude is on a power trip

So that girl’s reaction during and after being manhandled like that belies any accusation that she was anything less than completely cooperative throughout that encounter. I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone that calm. In fact, she was far more calm and level than the cop whose voice was quivering with suppressed rage and emotion throughout. I suspect steroids at play here.

In any case, completely uncalled for and I have to say the child and her father do great credit to themselves with their behavior throughout. I hope they sue the schit out of the town.

This guy is a menace and needs to be beaten, fired, and jailed. The depravity and entitlement necessary to do that to a girl like that make him completely unsuitable to even be walking the streets with civilized persons, much less being a police officer. In a more civilized age, a mob of concerned citizens would likely have already dispatched him.

Am sure he is real proud of himself,,,, wonder if he has a daughter

Their only complaint was letting the father talk to the daughter and the letting him continue on shows further support for his actions.

If they had a problem with his actions he would be inline to get set up for being shot in the face, a la Frank Serpico, which isn't in his future due to his being what they want.

Wow! What an [bleep]. Definitely doesn't need a badge.

Maybe not. People that go all in on being part of the group can have some rather odd traits.

Did you watch the video? She was complying by retrieving the ID that he was asking her for. He was giving her multiple orders and staying on her ass while she was getting the documents. Home boy has immaturity issues displayed more so by the manner in which he was ordering the dude trying to exit the station the way he did. He has all of the signs and history as a bad cop even before he moved to this jurisdiction.

So what level of assault and other rights violations would justify canning him? How bad would it have to be to justify prison?

Why would they retrain someone when they are satisfied with his actions?

The cop mentions multiple times that the drivers side headlight was out. From the video It looks to me like it’s the passenger side that’s not working.
Maybe it just looks that was on my monitor.

Keeping the lie consistent is often one of the perils and pitfalls of dishonesty.

The Marshall, town council, et al are ok with that too.

The fact is, as sad as it may be, that the biggest percentage of LEO's have a quest for authority and love to show the public just how much they have. Perhaps they are suffering LDS (little dick syndrome) or were bullied as kids, and just want to pay people back now that they have a badge, but sooner or later most cops react the way the one in the video did.

She's white.

And she was complying.

End qualified immunity for these pigs! It'll be funny to see how many of these powertrip tyrants turn tail when the upcoming civil unrest starts.

The Attorney made a comment, “ I noticed a wedding ring on his left hand, someone should go check on his wife”.

I don’t think he was being sarcastic. This attorney handles a ton of cases like this, I’m guessing he has seen a good majority of cops that act like this on the job do the same thing at home.

From the time the cop approached the car to putting her on the ground was 1.20.

I’m not surprised you do not care if a fellow officer puts his hands on a young lady like that, no surprise at all, thin Blue Line and all.

Now that you are all hot-n-bothered about this morning’s Fire news, take that anger to work with you today and see if you can outdo this officer.

Maybe beat up an old lady with dementia, or body slam an old man into the pavement, or maybe just go out and shoots some family pets.

Whatever you decide, get home safe tonight.

I bet your neighbors grass is out of regulation.


Probably has a car on the street too....

That long?

How dare she.

She should have been tased the second she had the audacity to ask why she was being stopped.

I noticed that too. In the grand scheme of things IDM. That cops a douche pain and simple.

Democrats love to defund the police....and then sob about how there isn't a cop on every corner to protect them from the black guy they saw at the grocery store.


Hypocritical bitches.

How do you folks criticizing the officer think he should have handled it?

How is the community improved by Schimmel's behavior?

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/8102531/brian-richard-patrick-schimmel/

You first

How is the community improved by you being a hypocritical bitch?

Defund!

Stevie going hard this morning.

Missed your HOA meeting last night?

Is it illegal there for a headlight to be out during daylight hours? Seems a stretch. Dad did OK but should not have handed his ID to the cop. Showing it was OK. GD

The officer is a complete "dick head"

Cool, now son and granddaughter get to see up close and personal how gramps spent his days.

No. I am not criticizing him. Those that are can go ahead and Monday morning quarterback this. Also, I have seen many of these videos on here but with people of a different color. In those it is almost unanimous the person is in the wrong. In this case it is the PO who is wrong in their eyes. So, if the girl was not white would feelings be different towards the officer and her.

No, he is a criminal.

Yes, of course.
Every time a black person gets shot these retards throw a party for the police.

WWFD? (What would Frank do?)

Regardless I don’t give a fuqk who you are ppl should be treated w respect that dude was way outta line

Those terms are not mutually exclusive.

I have no idea who that guy is, where he works, or what he did, or why. He is not a fellow officer of mine.

There are 500k sworn police officers in the USA. They are responsible for their actions, just as I am responsible for mine. I'm not going to sit and bìtch and moan about shìt I don't know about


Are you responsible for every worthless doing nothing fùcks in America simply because you are one? Are you responsible for every welfare tard from Minnesota because you live in that shìthole?

If that girl was black we’d all be saying she should have done what the cop told her.

And to that point, the girl should have not acted like a damn Norwegian. She behaved like an entitled little brat and the cop pulled her from the car. Cops get shot by 18 year olds often enough.

And why did the picture for the video not come from the actual footage. Hmmmmm….

Dudley Do-Wrong needs a little barracks justice applied to his bully ass. I've seen guys get attacked by a wool blanket, held down by four big guys, while half a dozen others just happen to have bars of soap in boot socks. It must suck to be such a paranoid dick that he has to assault high school girls. Sounds like it's not his first rodeo. One of these days he's going to lay hands on the wrong victim, and suffer some life-altering consequences.

Race isn't my thing.

Amber Guyger did not get a long enough sentence for just 1 example.

So tell me how she acted like a brat. Meh…never mind, you didn’t watch it to find out. Ask me how I know you didn’t watch it.

Do you mean the footage that doesn't exist because the officer didn't turn on his body cam? That's sorta on him, and it's not a good look.

Except she was doing what the cop asked.

The picture is some kind of AI creation.

Why didn't the officer have his body camera on?

Go ask him. Since you really want to know and have nothing better to do.

500k(or fewer) might reduce the frequency of incidents like this one.

Law Enforcement Facts - National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund
https://nleomf.org/memorial/facts-figures/law-enforcement-facts/

"There are more than 800,000 sworn law enforcement officers now serving in the United States, which is the highest figure ever."

Doubtful. My kids have been taught to respect law enforcement, they have also been taught if they think something is not right to obey the orders given and address it later with a lawyer.

Fighting and disobeying a cop just gives them a reason to do schit like this.

complying and use of force has do with totality of circumstances. If this teenager had just robbed a 711, stole a car or beat up her grandmother and took off on a high speed chase endangering others this might be justified

in this care it was a head light issue. This guy should not be an LEO. Minimum lose a job, probably should be charged with a use of force issue/assault

Cool I'm all for fewer or no police. Make it happen.

I asked one of his defenders. Guess I can ask you too.

Seems like integrating body camera and duty belt so that all weapons are locked in place and the radio unable transmit until the camera had been activated for 2-3 minutes would go a long way towards eliminating these incidents of camera not getting turned on.

Except she didn't which then "gave" the cop reasons to lie which is condoned and supported by the system as shown by the existence of Brady/Giglio lists.

I'm LEO friendly but that guy is definitely in the wrong line of work and should be terminated forthwith...Dickhead!!!

Would be better, but it's obvious you aren't supporting that idea.

the cover image image generated for this video was pure click bait to initially enrage the viewer before they look at the real video of what really occurred . In this case the immature cop pugged up but he didn't lift her up and body slam her into the pavement

Of course there are more cops now. There are more people living in the U.S.

I did watch it. The cop told her to step out and she didn’t. Instead she kept digging around in her car. If that had been an 18 year old black male that cop would have ripped him out much sooner and harder, with good reason. Regardless, she got what was coming to her, and it wasn’t that damn bad.

I am agreeing with you. I would like to see less or zero police. I'm all for it.

Now are you on your way to ask this officer why he did what he did and about his body camera?

That's not the tale on LE troop strength usually spun by the TBL crowd.

No, if it had been an 18 year old black male, rhe cop wouldn’t ripped him out at all.

It's obvious why he did it. I was letting his defenders do their thing.

So you don't really want to know? Could you tell us why he did what he did?

LE seem to like all of his actions except for letting the father talk to the daughter while she was cuffed in the back.

The whole video was narrated to incite hatred towards the cop, it makes the whole thing illegitimate in my opinion.

The Democrats use similar tactics but they do it because they obviously work.

He didn't want his actions to be recorded.

They were being clearly recorded by his dash cam. Apparently he is as dumb as you are. Shocker.

The cop's behavior in the videos with no narration work just as well.


https://www.justiceforvivian.com/videos


The body camera didn't get turned on because he didn't want his actions documented.

Lucky for her she pulled in to a parking lot with security cameras.

One less loose string is one less loose string.

Her pulling in to a business with cameras he had no control over likely added to his agitation.

It really isn’t necessary to incite hatred against cops. They’re doing a great job all on their own.

I think you should go confront him

You need to get over to the RWVA speech thread to let everyone know how put off you are about being one of the king's men as a sarcastic statement instead of literally one of the king's men since your ideology lost.

Of course you don't.

Why would someone come on a sportsmen forum and have over 50 per cent of their posts dedicated to hating cops?

sock puppet?

I seriously think you should fight back against the crown. When are you going to start?

Why would I? I wasn't there, don't work there, don't know him, don't know their policies.

I have zero interest in complaining about something I have nothing to do with.

I would estimate more than 75% of my posts are responding to personal attack lies due to my lack of support for cops like the ones connected to this incident, so that sinks your 50% claim.

Go do the math and show us. I would guess your police bìtching posts are a solid 80% of your total posts.

Have you confronted the awful policeman? He should be chastised by the people, in person.

YouTube is absolutely full of cop hating people. see lots of these videos where people won't roll the window down. tell the copy has no right to do blah blah blah.
they're not getting out of the car they're not producing ID. and 90% of the time these people would be on their way in just a few minutes if they just gave a little courtesy and cooperation.

so many people are their own worst enemies.
these youngsters watch these YouTube videos and see others doing this. so many of these videos are Cherry picked and edited. these kids are clueless.
if you have a problem with something body and authority doing their job raise the question in court later not alongside the road in your car. not the time or place...

Well here I am again responding to another personal attack lie, so thanks for popping up with another example.

Cool, then you will be turning in your resignation today, excellent, another thug with a badge off the streets.

Thanks

I disagree. People need to speak truth to power. If more cops were getting beat down and smoked, we would have less problems in this country.

Fight back. Don't comply. Put these pigs in their place.

He asked for ID and she was getting it.

Why not get rid of dud cops like the ones related to the incident?

I'm not a cop you fùcking idiot.

Get rid of them for eternity.....what are you prepared to do?

Some random thoughts-

Her ass got protected and served!

If he worked for the IRS he could go after those organized crime syndicates, you know, like garage salers. And what about those girl scouts that sell cookies? You know they're skimming off the top. Get right on that. Justice is coming bitches!

He should add that video to his resume. Half the police forces in America would snatch an azzhole like him right up.

What would you be prepared to do to defend one of the cops in these incidents?

Lying is very common with cops., but some go even further.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...so-how-bout-charles-askins-jr#Post248229

Way more than half

I didn't see a problem. Get out of the fu cking car.

No. Kill'em all.

All police should be abolish and or executed. Free people should resist all police during any encounter.

Are you with me?

If one of you tough guys on here gave your high school aged daughter a lawful command to get out of your car, she didn’t, and you reacted as the officer here did, how do you think this officer would treat you if a neighbor had called the cops?

I mean she is your daughter and you have the right and the legal authority to tell her what to do. It’s your car and you have the right to tell anyone to get in and get out. And finally, you even have the right to physically discipline a child and force them to comply.

So, you think it would have worked out for you had you dine that?

The cop lied about her cracking the window open. You can clearly see that the window was all the way down when the door opened. Also, from time of first contact to when she was laying on the pavement was a minute and half. That's a quick escalation from asking for your ID to being put in an arm bar.

Sure!


Well....unless the neighbors are having a loud backyard party.....then it's 911 time baby!

Very inconvenient to the agenda. Please try to stay on topic.

I wonder what Dudley DooRight would have done if her door had been locked. Mag dump?

A free people should not be abused by government agents. They should handle their disagreements and issues in court or through discourse.

Try stepping out of your vehicle during a traffic stop to have a man to man conversation with the paranoid dipschidt with the badge and the blue lights sometime. Thery will freak out and draw down on you- - - -and that's if you're lucky. Usually you'll gat a couple of rounds to the head before you get the door open all the way.

Somewhere there is a middle ground, it occupies a space deemed 'use your commonF ucking sense', the Good Lord gave us ALL a brain, many just choose not to use it.

It ain't rocket science

The typical prosecutor and judge supports the officers on the criminal side, so no correction there.

If the municipality doesn't just pay for the officers' civil suits off the start, the officers are just about guaranteed to be granted qualified immunity for their actions.

So, what is seen in the videos will keep right on occurring.

He couldn't even keep his story straight on which headlight was out which likely stems from trying to make that an issue between the hours of sunrise and sunset.

I cant watch these. I seriously want to see a concealed carrier pop out of the blue and loosen his brain matter. It would just make me feel better.

And the shìt thing is that not all bad cops are bad cops all of the time. I'm sure he's done plenty of good and has good intentions at times but so do pit bulls until they turn on their owner. This shìt is just becoming too common amd the worst part is that they aren't shunned from existence. Qualified immunity really should be ended. Or maybe make them bonded and insured.

Thought provoking.

Someone should pass a law....

He hasn't been a cop long and has exhibited similar behavior with at least 1 other agency who sent him to more training.

At least agency #1 wasn't amused by the shoddy behavior as the current agency seems to be.

QI ending is one part that would be an improvement. Treating this kind of thing as racketeering would be useful.

Why wait for someone else to do it?

https://www.theatlantic.com/nationa...o-hit-their-wives-or-girlfriends/380329/

QI still needs to exist. There are indeed completely frivolous lawsuits, and QI protects against that.

What needs to happen though, is that the bar for losing QI needs to be drastically lowered. As in - if you need to get remedial training on de-escalation because of how you handled an interaction with the public, well you obviously should have lost QI for that incident.

Because the other gang members would outnumber him and kill him in support of their colleague.

This one featured Asbury Park, NJ officers providing protection for their colleague while he executed Tamara Seidle. They were ready to hose her down in case she pulled a weapon while their colleague reloaded or just anyone who attempted to assist her.

Rotten mf doesn’t need out of law enforcement. He needs to be out of the gene pool. Covers all bases. Righteous anger is appropriate.

QI is not protection against frivolous lawsuits, QI is protection for the cops when rights have been violated.

Go be righteous then. You know where to find him. What are you waiting for?

All this talk and no action...

One other comment on the low percentage LE being sadistic in their job. Several of us when we were younger had personal contact with a garbage man with a badge (my apologies to garbage men). Many others as well who I didn’t know personally. Small town wouldn’t listen. One off day he was riding his little Honda around being cool and a militiaman ran him off the road, physically assaulted him, then beat him bloody with his cycle helment. Garbage man found a new career. Militiaman got punished though I don’t remember the way. But he knew what was coming and didn’t care. Justice not according to law.

From Cornell Law:

“Qualified immunity balances two important interests—the need to hold public officials accountable when they exercise power irresponsibly and the need to shield officials from harassment, distraction, and liability when they perform their duties reasonably.”

The big issue is that too many judges find that plaintiffs can't prove that government officials had "violated a “clearly established” statutory or constitutional right."

Which leads me to believe that the apparent lack of training regarding the first, fourth and fifth amendments is INTENTIONAL. If it can be proven that you were well educated on those rights, and yet went on to violate them, then it would be easy for plaintiffs to prove that those rights were clearly established and or constitutional.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/qualified_immunity

I try to see the side from a cops perspective. I respect police and have never had a negative interaction with the cops in my entire life, because Im always respectful. That said, that cop should be fired at best and if that was my daughter, Id be in jail

Pretty much how I see it.

You won't even condemn him for his actions, but you want someone else to go do something about it. You're a scumbag for defending and not giving a sheit about his behavior. I have never ONCE seen you say a cop was wrong, if you have the show me.

Not if I was on the jury.

that cop is an absolute piece of crap.

Go look up some QI granted cases to see what rights aren't "clearly established".

Stealing cash is one of those rights no officer could have realized they were violating.

Jessop v. City of Fresno, No. 17-16756 (9th Cir. 2019) :: Justia
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca9/17-16756/17-16756-2019-09-04.html

"incident, there was no clearly established law holding that officers violate the Fourth or Fourteenth Amendment when they steal property seized pursuant to a warrant. For that reason, the City Officers were entitled to qualified immunity."

That city will , most likely, pay for her advanced degree(s),, and well they should

IDK-- maybe there is a chapter in their manual on how to terrorize teenage girls

100%. Plus, he knew he was on camera. He knew how this would play out before he arrived at the scene.

I guess the one piece that's not there that I'd really like to see/hear is the verbal exchange prior to her being removed. The reason I say that is the 1st thing you hear from this gal when she's removed from the car is:

"What the F".

She might have been trying to be worriedly compliant, shook up, and not efficient in retrieving the information the officer requested. Or, she might've been a little brat.

The interaction w/the other motorist doesn't make it look like the officer is even-tempered and goes straight to "power-trip" at the drop of a hat.

Looks like South Whitley is a small town of 1700-1800 people. Family name aside (good or bad), if she's a good kid, everybody in town that size knows it. Business owners will invoke the, "We reserve the right to refuse service" deal and the only goods/services that will be available to him in town will be a public payphone.

He was wrong. Should be killed in the town square to make an example of.

Kill them all.

(I have been critical and condemned police multiple times, I'm sorry youbare too ate up with retard to have observed it, go fùck yourself you old bìtch)

Not my fight, but it would tickle my dopamine receptors to see someone else do it.

The lack of audio was the choice of the cop who chose to not turn his body camera on.

If businesses try to deny him service the tbl community will do their "hate all cops" and "they support criminals" rants(at a minimum) until they give in or go under.

The lack of audio and video at the start of the incident speaks volumes regarding his intent to be an arrogant azzhat.

So just Iike everyone else, all talk. Too bad.

Just to clarify, but your question implies you approve of how he handled it. Do you?

He actually shut off his body cam, and lied about shutting it off.

Intent and cover up.

If having self control is what you mean, than sure. Many people are able to talk out of anger while not ruining their life by acting on impulse. It sure doesn't mean that I wouldn't like to see someone else do it though.

This is a small town country community of less than 2000 people where most folks know everyone. I live within 15 miles from there and have been there numerous times. She hardly qualified as a threat to anyone. I think she was flustered and couldn't retrieve her registration and ID very fast, but no where did I see where she failed to comply. Regardless, as someone else pointed out, only 1 min 20 sec passed before she was yanked out of the car.
The cop was new to the area was on a power trip trying to show his authority. I have no idea where you saw she was being a brat. Unfortunately we have a few small towns around here where the cops try to act like a big finish in a small pond. I hope the girl and her family receive justice.

That's a very judicious way of saying, a lot of people on here talk a lot of shìt with zero intestinal fortitude to follow through with their "big talk"....

You'd be correct if the people.you mention are saying things in the form of "I would, I should, I could, etc..." but I don't see that here. These are wishful thoughts and nothing more.

Not sure about their laws, but it’s not dark out. A headlight out at that time of day shouldn’t matter.

Also, the cop replies “good job, you’re going to jail.” Talk about unprofessional.

That right there is your stereotypical cop on a power trip. What a loser.

The questions which have not been asked:

How did Dad get there so soon?

Did Daughter call Dad as soon as blue lights popped on?

Did Dad say, "Don't worry Honey. I will be right there."?

Was her phone on the entire time with Dad listening?

Did this cop have a reputation around town around town for abuse?

Did Daughter recognize Cop and relay that information to Dad?

Was Cop fired up because Daughter failed to immediately pull over to the side of the road, opting instead to drive a block or two to the store with cameras?

Hell, my wife would be hard pressed to get her license out of the "black hole" that is her purse in 90 seconds if I asked her for it. My youngest daughter at 40 years of age could not pick her license out of a stack of similar cards on the table if confronted by a Cop.

Some people, many young girls, freeze up with fear when confronted. Especially sweet young girls that have never misbehaved in their life. They deserve to not be treated like a hood rat who has spent her entire life evading and working around the law.

The cop was entirely out of line. There was no need to escalate the situation as he did.

Let's not forget, that by the time he approached that car, he had run the plate. He knew who owned it. He knew who was driving it. And he knew the criminal history of anyone associated with the car. He most likely had a copy of the girl's DL showing on the screen of the computer in the passenger seat, as well as insurance status of the vehicle. At least that is SOP for cops around here.

He has had his chance at retraining. It obviously did not take. I am sure the town has a garbage service of some kind. The Jerk can spend the rest of his life riding a garbage truck, escalating confrontations with garbage cans.

Even in backwards Idaho, you can get a faulty equipment ticket for a headlight in broad daylight. Usually it is a fix-it ticket. Show the judge a receipt for parts or repair, and he tosses the ticket.

At least that is the way it was the last time I saw my buddy get one.

Common practice. Unfortunately this young lady ran into an uncommon criminal cop.

"The questions which have not been asked:

How did Dad get there so soon?

Did Daughter call Dad as soon as blue lights popped on?"

Like I said, it's a small town where most people know each other. It's possible one of the town folk or gas station employees saw what was happening and called the dad.

In this town, speeding with a head light out might of been the worst crime all week. The cop wanted to take full advantage of the opportunity.

That black shìthead should have just complied!

yeh that was very unprofessional

Oh yeah, that’s exactly the kind of judicial nonsense I am talking about. In this case, it is clearly established that theft is criminal. Therefore the officers did not act reasonably. Hence no QI. But IANAL. Also 9th circus, so there is that. Would the same determination have been found in another circuit?

sCOTUS effectively gave it a thumbs up.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicksi...ourt-urged-to-hear-case/?sh=4859b4222877

So what agency is Schimmel starting at Monday?

https://www.21alivenews.com/2024/04...-no-longer-employed-due-safety-concerns/

Nothing “ uncommon” about his behavior, THAT’S the problem

mutha fuqkers like him should be made wear an ankle bracelet so the public can keep track of them...

As shown on the video and when the local le investigated themselves and found no wrong doing.

And part of how this [bleep] happened in the first place.

https://www.wane.com/top-stories/south-whitley-police-officer-let-go-due-to-public-safety/

You just made my day!

Someday your ticket will probably get punched. Not by a gang banger with a .45, but by an 18 year old girl with a camera phone and a YouTube account.

I don’t know JH, but your point is well taken. Cop got Zumbo’d. Internet blew up and landed a crapstorm right in the City’s lap. Cop got famous, in a bad way. That’s not going away. Kid will fund her college account. Taxpayers and good cops all lose. Damn shame, really.

Karens like Strop and Steevie hate to get out Karened by the cops.

Schimmel will get hired at another agency. His behavior isn't a negative to a large percentage of le.

Not his first rodeo.

https://www.tiktok.com/@junkiewhisperer23/video/7233216767277927723?lang=en

“To protect and serve “



Maybe they ought to change that…..

Are you le?

And that's part of what's so disturbing about this story. This incident was reviewed by both the city attorney and city council. There was no plan to drop the charges or take any action against this officer until the video blew up and they started receiving death threats. The cop wasn't fired to promote public safety, but for the safety of the elected officials.

That's just a marketing slogan they use when lobbying for more money, more laws they want exempted from, and so on.

No different than the supporters/enablers here. They don't have a problem THAT the incident happened...maybe even enjoyed that it did. What they sure dislike is video footage of it occurring and that footage getting passed around pisses them off because it shows just what it is they support and lie about.

And the town le liked Schimmer in action too.

"In response to a social media post of an edited video of a local law enforcement encounter, the South Whitley Town Council has reviewed the surrounding circumstances, including unabridged video footage from four cameras.
“The council recognizes that officer Brian Schimmel’s interaction with the accused on January 24, 2024, was flawed but not worthy of dismissal. Concerns with the encounter include allowing the accused to have an unmonitored conversation with her father at the scene, which, like other elements of the incident, was not included in the footage released online. The force involved appears consistent with police academy training.
“Since the incident occurred more than two months ago, the marshal has already addressed areas of concern with the officer. The Town Council concurs with both the marshal’s corrective efforts and his decision to retain the officer."

Hey I'm just hoping someone steps up and gives that dirty cop what he's got coming. Is that not ok? I thought we all wanted him assaulted and/or dead?....right?

I have no idea why an 18yr old girl with a youtube account would punch my ticket. I don't interact with 18yr old females.

I just watched the first 0:58. You can tell the cop is a straight up bitch like Antelope Diaper. 🤣
Back to the show

More likely ta be a 18 yo male.

Do you want to know so you can obsess about Jim too?

You could be interacting with her boyfriend or father when she has the camera rolling.

As for the cop in the video, this video lead to his firing for "safety concerns", well, elected officials concerned for their own safety after receiving death threats. Regardless, this video punched his ticket.

I don't interact with 18yr old males either.

I'm agreeing with everyone. Cop should be assaulted and/or killed. Right?

I have no idea how I come into your strange hypothetical scenario. But ok.

Shouldn't this cop get what he really has coming to him though?

No.

I am just not a bitch.

I suspect he’ll struggle to get a LE job. Not because people do the right thing, but more because he’s a financial risk. Each city, including this one, now has to answer for hiring a guy that’s a known liability.

Maybe the guy will learn, repent and mend his ways. Though Antelope Snipester wouldn’t agree, I think miracles happen. I hope he gets one before JH gets him rubbed out. 😳

Color me confused, but where are the comments about his body cam not being on coming from? What camera is providing the view at the 3:20 mark?

He turned it on after the takedown. You can hear his telling the other officer it wasn't working at the beginning and finally started in the middle of the episode.. Yeah right.

Yep. Getting huffy over an 18 year old girl speeding by 7 mph and having a burned out headlight means you’re in the wrong profession. There are plenty of good cops out there. It’s a shame this one has spoiled the bunch. Cops should be trained or vetted to interact with the public much better than this.

What about the arresting officer demanding that old man pumping gas (then trying to leave the property )to leave his scene? That’s after he called him a woman. Holy schidt, what an idiot. Go dig ditches , Officer Schimmel. At least there if you act like a bitch, you’ll be treated like one. Just damn

I don't obsess about anything.

I do assume it is much more likely any supporter of the actions by Schimmer are in le or, less likely, an elected or appointed official who isnt likely to become a victim of Schimmer's. Anyone that isn't part of those cliques that supports that behavior is a very dim bulb.

It shouldn’t be a foreign feeling that you’re confused Mr Batard.

You are clearly obsessed with cops.

I sincerely hope you get them abolished. Posting on an obscure hunting forum will probably help.

As gratifying as it may be when a cop gets summarily fired after some egregious misconduct, it is usually window dressing to assuage public outrage. Unless he is an employee at will, if he works under any form of civil service or union contract, he will likely get his job back when the wheels of the appeal process finally finish turning. By then it will be old news. It is a byzantine, convoluted process, but rest assured, police union reps know how to work it. Approve or not, that is their job. They even have a legal obligation to diligently defend obvious dirtballs. It is called the duty of fair representation, and the union can be sued if it doesn't adhere to it. For its part, management will lose unless all the Is are dotted and Ts crossed.

Shoulds and oughts don't carry much weight.

Boring reading, but this explains it.

https://www.laboremploymentlaw.org/...ractice-Tool-Kit-Article-Due-Process.pdf

Glad to help. You are confused. 🫤

They had dash cam and security footage if the whole incident. Cop’s body cam was off until after the “takedown “.

If all citizens are supposed to get due process, why wouldn’t a police officer? It still doesn’t change the fact he fucgked up pretty bad.

No I'm not and no you don't.

You're like listening to Schimmer telling his tale about windows and lights that doesn't narrate video of the incident at all.

It's funny how often those body cameras seem to not be working when a LE is accused of doing something wrong, even though the camera seemed to be working just fine right before or right after the event.

If you support the actions of Schimmel and not in le or some kind of official he wouldn't lay a hand on, you are incredibly stupid.

That's criminal law. This is a specific form of procedural due process pertaining to some public employees. For example, most employees don't have constitutional protections of their employment. All citizens are not supposed to get due process is not strictly true. The Constitution only applies to what the government can and cannot do.

Same reason a private entity doesn't have to respect the Second Amendment.

Can you find a shorter limb to get on?

What "limb"? I was simply trying to explain a legal principle that many aren't aware of.

If you don't like it ignore it.

I think ur the stoopid one

He is in the middle of cuffing when it starts playing. Both hands seemed to be occupied.

This is some seriously fûcked up shît.

And should be saved for posterity.

It's Elkfeces.

The desperation for people to come over to his way of thinking is the same as that retard. there's no doubt it's him.

maybe everyone will get lucky and Schimmel has a job lined up in your area. Then he can inflict himself upon you like you support happening to others.

Which part?

The firing might take awhile, but the lack of a speedy arrest by their colleagues is the larger issue.

The part where you jerk off to cops getting shot in the head.

One more time.

Administrative law and criminal law are different. He very well might have been arrested.

Only deserving ones.

But you stated you fantasize about it, you'd never actually do it.

Nice cover.

You advertise your work on here "gunsmith"?

No, retired. Never said I fantasize. I said it would please me for this oath breaker to meet his demise. I love how you immediately jump to cancel culture btw.

About the John Bryan review of the incident.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/YAUXWsqrfaZNbwC6/?mibextid=qi2Omg

UPDATE: Justice for Vivian - an amazing civil rights lawyer heard about Vivian and did a full analysis (link below). In a HILARIOUS response the Town of South Whitley deleted the Police department's facebook page and then 30 min later deleted the Town Facebook page!!!!
🤣🤣🤣 Keep up the good work South Whitley town council!
#justiceforvivian

This cops young, full of piss and vinegar. Maybe becoming the wrong kind of internet star and getting fired for generating death threats for his bosses will shrink his head a bit. Or maybe he's one of those arrogant pricks who only learns as the result of a good ass kicking. It's hard to know the answer based on a few short video's, but this was the second time he's been fired, so he's not a quick learner.....

You’ve said your mid thirties in previous posts.

Wishful vs fantasize. Ok.

Good for you

That's why their judicial comrades had to create Giglio lists.

I'm not old, but I don't gunsmith anymore thanks to Bidens atf. Not sure what that has to do with this thread anyways.

Your jumping. I never asked for your name or location. Just an example of your work.

I think you’re full of shît

You said retired.

Retired and quitting are not the same thing.

You're gonna have to work your ass off villifying all of the people who are on their second career after leaving/retiring from their first one.

It's interesting how pleasant and ingratiating he was with the girl's father and what a authoritarian prick he was with the guy in the car trying to leave. Probably a sociopath.

The lawyer was right, somebody ought to check on his wife.

Maybe ur a dumfuk that’s wishy washy LOL

To


"Go home at end of shift"?

He's elkslayers sock.

this Cop is full of emotional instability (proven with at least two people in the video)... he's also full of schit (lying & covering up proves he knows it)... this guy IS! a threat to public safety... watching the video is all the vetting any future employer needs to do...

+1

If you are ok with it happening to others, I am fine with it happening to you.

It can be assumed past video wasn't a turn off to his current employer because his latest incident was fully approved until it started getting more attention via Bryan's review.

the previous mentioned Sociopath moniker was accurate i'm afraid... looks to be a Dr Jeykll/Mr Hyde type to me... must be how he was able to pass the sniff test in training camp, and after his infractions on the street... the video doesn't lie!...

Brian R.P. Schimmel will probably find another law enforcement job my guess. Might not be high paying but somebody somewhere will hire him.

They saw his behavior on video and opined:

I"n response to a social media post of an edited video of a local law enforcement encounter, the South Whitley Town Council has reviewed the surrounding circumstances, including unabridged video footage from four cameras.
“The council recognizes that officer Brian Schimmel’s interaction with the accused on January 24, 2024, was flawed but not worthy of dismissal. Concerns with the encounter include allowing the accused to have an unmonitored conversation with her father at the scene, which, like other elements of the incident, was not included in the footage released online. The force involved appears consistent with police academy training.
“Since the incident occurred more than two months ago, the marshal has already addressed areas of concern with the officer. The Town Council concurs with both the marshal’s corrective efforts and his decision to retain the officer."

It can be assumed he wasn't behaving in an adversarial manner against other LE during hiring or training.

Video of him losing his [bleep] and lying on private citizens didn't turn them off so it seems likely that behavior against private citizens wouldn't have been a concern during hiring/training periods either.

Uh-Oh. That won't soothe your pussy, will it?

Looks like your kind of behavior.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...having-a-diabetic-emergency#Post19360840

His base salary($45k) was more than the average person in that county($36k) which will likely hold true anywhere else he gets on as le.

When you figure in the tax payer funded legal settlements due to his lack of self control and being in a protected class, his total benefits will likely be in to the 6 figure range on up to millions.

I absolutely do hope you achieve your goal. You won't, because all you do is complain. You need to take action. Maybe one day you'll get off you butt.


45k? Lol no wonder.......I'm shocked a dumbazz willing to work for pennies is a retard lol lol. Dude could make more at Walmart hahaa

Make his cop pay as high as you want, he will still act the same way.

If he works in another occupational field(outside of organized private sector crime) even for less money, he isn't going to behave that way since his private sector colleagues will let him get beat to a pulp if he reverts to what he is.

I assume they are still sucking up money though.

"WANE 15 has reached out to both the South Whitley Police Department and the South Whitley Town Council, but it appears the phones have been disconnected."

New book by jackoff gandy:

"If I didn't do it".

Get your copy, today!

New book by fubarski....

"Living as a retard"


BTW has any bedazz 24hr blowhards gone and done a dam thing about this horrific injustice or are you all still doing absolutely nothing but complaining?

Is he starting work with you next week?

So you haven't done anything.....still? Too bad.

Maybe one you'll grow a pair

The powers that be fully approved of his behavior for 2 months.

Less than a week ago, Bryan made a review of the incident and it began getting shared which lead to the town cutting ties with the behavior they supported.

It seems(much to the chagrin of you and others of your ideology) that it did work.

It's a lot more likely he will end up unemployed, and unemployable once his little video performance is shown to any PD boss stupid enough to give him a job in the first place. He will wear the "Mark of Cain" for the rest of his miserable life- - - -hopefully, it will be a short one. If justice is served eventually, a bigger, more powerful bully will stomp his sociopath azz into a mudhole and laugh while he's doing it. Karma is a beeyotch!

Handy's about to blow a fuse.

LOL

You’re better than this, Fireballs

Blow a fuse? I'm hoping that one of these hardcore 24hr members would do the lords work and "loosen his brain matter" (in the words of the BeardedGunsmith)


All cawps are bastards.....should be treated as such.

I've written it now multiple times, police forces should not exist. Hopefully one day that happens. Free people should not be harassed by government goons.

Let the law suits begin!

There was previous video footage from his time with a former agency that resulted in him being sent back for more training and none of that mattered to South Whitley PD.

South Whitley PD knew about the slamming the 18 year old female incident for 2 months and thought it was fine and dandy.

There is no reason to believe he won't get hired at another agency.

Offiver Schimmel's active imagination in written form.

https://www.facebook.com/share/WXnLysRPzyqxEaJo/?mibextid=xfxF2i

He's not fit to patrol an ant farm. What an a s s h o l e.

The question now is where is he slapping on a new uniform tomorrow.

FBI, Khakis and a Red ball cap. Oh, and Ray-Bans

Seems like I always have been a strong supporter of LEOs wherever we have lived and worked, and for very good reasons. But, great appreciation for all of the fine cops I have known or seen perform does not erase the experiences of the occasional bad ones - the contrast only intensifies the differences.

For me, the biggest lesson from this example is the attitude aspect. It pops up as a glaring example at times. No matter how much knowledge of the job and good training takes place, some individuals will abuse the role/authority and fail to serve as sworn. There is something in their makeup and personal needs that is overly selfish - so the specific knowledge, training and heavy authority tends to intensify the bad behavior they cannot resist.

One good addition to the LEO hiring criteria would be a definitive test to reveal such disqualifying personality and attitude traits - before any training is even attempted.

lol

Excellent points.

An important additional factor is the culture of the particular department. It does vary.

As far as the screening procedures, the main fly in that ointment is time and cost. There is no quick and cost effective psychological assessment procedure. Understandably, that has been sort of a holy grail of LE agencies. I call it psychologist in a can, doesn't exist. The most that departments typically do is administer something like the MMPI, have the results reviewed by a psychologist. The problem with that is that candidates are motivated to lie, and do. The MMPI will detect faking, but not correct for it. It just reduces the validity of the test. Faking on employment tests was the subject of my master's thesis. There is no shortcut, easy answer. Careful multi-step selection followed by ongoing training and monitoring, while protecting the rights of the employee. Good leadership at all levels. Political support.

I recall there was some research that indicated that the quality of the FTO was a big factor in how the new officer turned out. No surprise.

Of course for decades there has been affirmative action, now called DEI, with the civil rights establishment attacking on the basis of "adverse impact". Forced LE agencies and many others to throw out their best hiring practices in favor of a numbers game.

I wonder how many steroids Dudley Do-Wrong uses on a daily basis? There are probalbly pro football players, body builders, or MMA professionals with lower roid levels than this scumbag!

This Bad Apple cops giving Good cops a bad reputation Bullschit is why thy continue to do what they do with impunity.

If a “good” cop witnesses a “ Bad” cop doing what bad cops do and does nothing, HE IS A BAD COP. DUH

Before we get to the details of this, what has happened to the law enforcement profession in the last 5 years?

It’s been dragged through the mud by the left.

I used to think that I could do a profession like this. Now, you couldn’t pay me enough to do it. I think there are a lot of officers serving now that wouldn’t be serving 10 years ago because they suck and wouldn’t get hired. Bet you get what you get in the application process. As with any profession that requires the management of high stress situations, it’s imperative to have the right kind of person. And that person needs to be appreciated and compensated. But since the profession has been so vilified, here we are.

More of this is going to happen unfortunately. It was the Left’s intent all along IMO.

RAS

Smart Phones and personal Dash Cams, their behavior has not changed, they now can no longer hide and lie.

The only thing new is more and more video recording devices along with the ability to share the video.


He was making about $10k more(@ 30%) per year than the average person in that county.

Every "cop commits wrong doing" story I can recall where not getting paid enough comes up as an excuse will have the cop's salary significantly higher than the average person in that county.

The average person(making less) isn't going to engage in criminal behavior.

If the average person(making less money) engages in criminal behavior, anyone defending their actions under the "not earning enough" banner will typically be ridiculed by the crowd that uses the "not earning enough" excuse for bad cops.

That officer, and others like him, have no place in Law Enforcement.

Jim

He's a Caucasian male, same as [bleep](now dead [bleep]) Darrel Cain was in early 1970s Dallas, Texas.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/197820371/darrell-lee-cain

The municipality had video footage of Schimmel being an [bleep] and his written version of events(which had very little resemblance to the video footage) for almost 3 months and were pleased with his actions. There is also video of him being an [bleep] before they hired and a record of him being sent back for retraining due to being an [bleep].

They didn't miss some barely perceptible tell that he is an [bleep]. They knew he was an [bleep] and liked what they saw.

Menstrual cramps getting to ya Strop?

[quote=Jim_Conrad]Menstrual cramps getting to ya Strop?Country?

Not a female so I wouldn't know.

Pretending(which is what "identifying as" used to be called) seems to be more of your kind of thing.

Why does it bother you that video of Officer Schimmel roughing up a compliant and petite 18 year old female is getting viewed around the country?

Seems like this psych exam was correct but this department hired them anyway.
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/alameda-sheriff-deputies/3013680/
This supposed cop can't recognize a flustered intimidated 115 lb. girl. Stay alert but maybe talk her down to do your job and leave a positive experience in her mond.

Why, nobody else with a gun and a badge follows that process , why should he

Considering how different his version of events was versus the video(several falsehoods) it is reasonable to ponder if he had plans other than what his job duties would cover.

As this guy points out, the act of reaching inside the car to unbuckle her seatbelt doesn't go along with someone claiming to be concerned about their safety.

You and Steevie should share a hot water bottle?


It's for Karens.

Are you connected to Schimmel? The way you keep lying indicates that's a good possibility.

Lying is the kinda thing "males" like you 2 have to keep doing.

Let's review the behavior you enjoy again.

Did you report your neighbors to the cops yet, bitch?


Fugging hypocrites.

Which plate carrier do you recommend Strop?

Why would I engage in shoddy behavior that you gravitate towards?

Are you paid to be an informant or do you just do that along with your other services?

Strip10 where’s the kingdom of nye?

If you are eating so much you can't pack it to the table with one hand, you might want to slow down.

On second thought, your neighbors shouldn't have to deal with your [bleep]. Load up a pallet jack and go back for extras.

That makes no sense. I've never heard of a psychological test being scored like an achievement test with letter grades. Plus, the purpose of those tests is prediction, so after they've been on the job for a time and performed satisfactorily with no problems, the test is more or less moot. Unless there's some sort of "ticking bomb" theory, and that would be a huge stretch of the predictive validity of such tests. Which, by the way, is a major argument against requiring psych. testing of prospective gun owners.

It looks to me like a can of worms for the agency and its govt. Legal liabilities all over the place, including the deputies having a cause of action. A lawyers' field day.

1) the article didn't say the D grades had performed satisfactorily with no problems.

2) this is the Devin mentioned who was later revealed to have not passed his. Sounds like a problem.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/eastbay/article/A-deputy-is-suspected-of-executing-a-couple-17473541.php

So...as a sockpuppet...you can't recommend any tactical gear?

They knew he is a bad apple when they hired him. They defended him until the local pressure got too high.

No idea what a sockpuppet is and why do you need tactical gear for over eating?

That being said, get to it. Your neighbors deserve finally getting to see the ambulance crew cut your bedroom wall open to get you out of their hair.

I'm not going to offer a semester course on this topic.

1) If the performance of some was not up to standards, corrective action should be taken on that basis, not against a whole group based on a test score. ex post facto

2) Tests aren't perfect predictors and should not be the sole basis for hiring decisions. Being on either side of a cutoff score is not some kind of conclusive proof of negligent hiring. A group of factors would have to be considered. Kind of a due diligence review.

You don't need to offer anything.

Just go back and read the article instead of adding a defense in to it for those who didn't pass their test.

On top of that, it's California.

Does California.gov:

A) grant special priveleges to anyone that can't be shown as being a trouble maker over a 10 year period?

B) constantly tries to remove rights from people who have done nothing wrong to anyone with the little D grade henchmen gleefully carrying out California.gov's orders?

Possibly near your location.

I doubt that

That cop is lucky he didn’t yank her shoulder out of joint or his paycheck would be getting big bites out of it forever.

Is ur kingdom of nye some fantasy land or some schit?

There will probably be a civil suit and settlement off a deprivation of rights claim.

He is just about guaranteed to not have to pay a penny towards any civil payout due to qualified immunity and that would likely hold true if he dislocated her shoulder or even amputated her arm at the shoulder.

The amputation scenario would actually increase his chances of being granted QI.

You like fantasy land based on your making up tales like Schimmel does.

Keep dreamin dumfuk

No dream.

You and Schimmel went to the effort of writing down your lies and doing a hatchet job on anyone that isn't enamored with your lies.

🥴 are you that fuqkin stoopid

Don't Feed the Trolls

This happened after a deputy murdered a man and woman in their home. Not sure of all the circs but a reasonable person would never get to murder as a problem solution unless it was righteous self defense. After reviewing his records the department went back, likely to his test and hire date and saw the dangerous liability of taking a guess and dropped all the D's on psych evals. I recall a couple friends telling me their backgrounds took a year as they were being kind of monitored in his day to day life.
Things are different now days.

Kindly explain the humor you derive from this.

Sorry to offend ur boi frind 🤣

Did you notice how the city knew what they were getting when they hired Schimmel and then were delighted for almost 3 months after he made good on his behavior?

Ribka may be part of South Whitley, IN.gov, or he may be a supporter of Schimmel living outside the area. There are plenty of people who support that kind of le behavior.

About 15 years ago a private investigator came to my place, very decent and professional guy, and asked if he could talk to me about my neighbor. This neighbor had applied to the Springfield, Mo. police dept. Springfield is a 4 1/2 hour drive from here so this guy was putting some effort into his job. This young man grew up about a mile down the road and I knew he would do them an excellent job but for some reason he didn't get hired. What impressed me was the time spent by the hiring end to vet this young man. I appreciated the effort.

On the other hand another neighbor applied for the county next door that was looking for a deputy. Me and 3 other people had heard this punk tell his parents he would kill them if they made him move out, he was about 30. He was/still is a deadbeat. I called the sheriff, I know him well, and explained what I knew. They still hired him. He is a liability. These depts. are adding to a terrible public image when they let scum work for them.

Wow. Tragic situation. Given the totality of the circumstances, makes sense that they would leave no stone unturned. Like I said, a field day for lawyers. Like you said, things are different now days. Still, seems like an unusual way to use the tests, with grading into letter categories. Ability tests, aptitude, intelligence, maybe. Mental fitness tests, not a conventional procedure. I'd need to know more specifics, though, to form a firm opinion.

Absent a history of violent behavior, it's very difficult to predict. A psych exam can tell where a person is at the time. Predicting future behavior is little more than a crap shoot. Past behavior is the best predictor.

With the current shortage of seat warmers in patrol cars, some (maybe most) cities will hire just about any moron with a GED to pin on a badge and strap on a gun, a taser, a baton, and a couple of cans of Mace. It's no wonder that more than a few nutcases slip through the holes in the net that's supposed to protect John Q. Public from bullies with badges.

Then their colleagues who really don't want to work double shifts to take up the slack cover for them until the problem gets so bad it can't be ignored. Hopefully, nobody gets killed before the scumbags show their true colors.

Schimmel had a history of violent behavior within the last few months the city of South Whitley knew about and liked.

As for California

When was there a net that was supposed to protect the public from bullies with badges?

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/197820371/darrell-lee-cain

Colleagues circled the wagon for Cain too.

I case you ladies missed it while y’all were bickering, a page back had a link where the cop was fired.

Not exactly a sign of correction.

South Whitley, IN.gov was aware of Schimmel’s behavioral problems when they hired him.

He was fired almost 3 months after the incident, during which time South Whitley, IN.gov stated he did everything correctly other than letting the father talk to the daughter(ie, not enough hardass).

He was fired less than a week after John Bryan(The Civil Rights Lawyer YouTube channel) did a negative review on all of the video that South Whitley, IN.gov claimed was top notch le work AND started getting South Whitley, IN.gov negative attention.

Also in that less than a week, South Whitley, IN.gov pulled down their social media sites and had their phones disconnected.

The main take away from a majority of Strops posts are

1. All cops are evil
2. Cops shouldn't exist
3. Cops have never done anything positive, ever.

To argue with this irrational fùcking retard that can not comprehend reality is a complete waste of time.

Just agree and move on. All cops suck, are evil, should be murdered, the world would be better.

The end. Maybe one day he'll get his wish and the police will magically go away, I'm rooting for him.

The only people that claim all cops are evil are dud cops and supporters of dud cops.

Info that Schimmel and the .gov he worked for are corrupt somehow becomes ALL cops in your little temper tantrums.

Carry on carrying the water for them.

No explanation??????? So, maybe it wasn't humorous at all, and the lol was what?

You're taking this personally, which is a sign of narcissism, or maybe you're taking it personally because you're just a bad cop.

If you were a good, mature cop delivering good policing I'd expect you to see the difference between those criticized and yourself.

If you can see the difference but fell you must defend bad cops out of some tribal instinct, then you are a big part of the problem.

Video cameras are a wonderful law enforcement tool. They convict lots of criminals and expose sorry police. Once when I was in one of our field sobriety testing classes I suggested we just video the test and that way the judge could see for himself what went on. Some of my fellow officers and the Agent teaching the class were big time against that idea.

Also, in my dealings with FBI Agents I learned they do not record interviews. They take notes. Incomplete notes.

In the case at hand I'm wondering why it took 3 months to fire the cop.

In one of these videos the girl's dad said that his dad was a retired HP. I can't imagine him as a grandpa not looking at this and being outraged. I'm not for upholding kids when they are wrong and act disrespectful but jerking this gal out of the car for 7 mph over the speed limit and a burned out headlight should seem over the top to anyone.

I'm not taking anything personally. I am making an objective observation. This incident are like many. An idiot did something wrong and should be held accountable.

He hates police. He will never acknowledge or discuss anything positive police do. That's fine.

There is zero reason to argue with him. Just agree and move on. Yes police are evil.

Don't agree with him.

Just know when to ignore him.

Because it took a subpoena and 3 months for the video to go viral.

The city fathers were well aware what happened and decided to cover it up.