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Posted By: eblake Coyotes and blaze orange - 11/02/23
While deer hunting yesterday with my muzzleloader, a coyote walked past me at less than 50 feet (upwind, of course) but it never reacted to my presence. I was standing next to a tree and was dressed in green and camo and a blaze orange cap. The coyote looked at me a couple of times and was within my sight for two or three minutes but never acted nervous. I have always thought that coyotes were able to detect shapes and color. Was this one exhibiting normal behavior? There is a lot of orange flagging in the woods from boundary survey work so might the coyote be comfortable with the orange color? I'm curious about what the experts think.
You stood still and he was upwind.

Camo makes $$ for the camo companies.


Same for turkeys. I have had them close while in jeans and a tee shirt.

The best camo in the world doesn't work if you're moving.
Posted By: WStrayer Re: Coyotes and blaze orange - 11/02/23
Game animals see the blob. I wear different patterns top and bottom so my outline isn't as noticeable. I have taken a lot in brown overalls and orange jacket with full orange shirt under the jacket. I huntva ladderstand and on the first hunt of the year I wrap the tree above me with a full orange vest. I do it so other hunters know where my stand is and think I am in it. I do bieve that the turkeys get used to it as well as they stroll.right by
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
You stood still and he was upwind.

Camo makes $$ for the camo companies.


Same for turkeys. I have had them close while in jeans and a tee shirt.

The best camo in the world doesn't work if you're moving.
Yep!! I feel like a Santa Claus suit would work just as well as camo
Posted By: eblake Re: Coyotes and blaze orange - 11/03/23
I share the skepticism about camo. The jacket is what I happened to have with me that day. I don't believe it actually frightens game. However, what I'm trying to understand is whether or not coyotes, specifically, detect and react to blaze orange. I have confirmed to my satisfaction that deer do not detect blaze orange but what about coyotes?
I have seen a ton of em when deer hunting.

Killed several. None of the ones I shot or didn't shoot never knew I was there unless they winded me or if they knew I was there there never really showed it.
The Canis family’s eyes are dichromats, IE, they only see blues and yellows. Reds and greens appear as yellow; depicted in the chart below:

[Linked Image from howitsee.com]

Here’s a comparison of what they see and what we see:

[Linked Image from rover.com]

They’re much, much more sensitive to movement than color. Camo is much like flies for fly fishing. They’re made to catch fisherman, not fish. As long as your pattern is broken up, they’ll probably not see you.
Posted By: MOGC Re: Coyotes and blaze orange - 11/03/23
Gerry Blair dressed in a red Santa Claus suit and successfully called and killed coyotes in the Arizona scrub brush. Scent and movement matter much more than what you wear.
I went deer hunting one time wearing a pair of jeans and a white t-shirt. Found a group of deer and decided to see how close I could get before they saw me and left. Everytime they put their head down to eat I'd take a couple steps then stop and wait again. It was obvious they saw me and also obvious they had no clue what I was. They simply saw an out of place blob, in a white t-shirt and after a bit their courisoity turned to being bothered but still didn't leave right away. Got to withing about 50 yds and they all simply walked off! They weren't scared, just bothered by something they didn't recognize. I suspect all wild animals are like that to some degree. All camo really seem's to do is hide the shape. make the shape move while they are looking and I'm bettin they will leave what ever animal they might be.
Posted By: k22hornet Re: Coyotes and blaze orange - 11/05/23
While big game hunting, I've called in numerous coyotes while wearing blaze orange, many very close. I almost never pass up a chance to call coyotes while hunting big game.

As Ben Lurkin posted, canines don't see color like we do, but they sure do spot movement!

I hunt everything, but coyotes are my favorite.

You can fool their eyes, you can fool their ears, but you can never fool The Nose.
Posted By: Hogwild7 Re: Coyotes and blaze orange - 11/05/23
I have had coyotes walk past me close with orange on a few times and never notice me. I was still. I have Turkeys come close often with orange on. The trees in the fall here are covered with leaves that are brightly colored.
Posted By: T_Inman Re: Coyotes and blaze orange - 11/05/23
Using orange bumpers while dog training really opened my eye into how most dogs see. They'll see white bumpers on top of snow before they'll see blaze orange bumpers, though I do think some dogs are genetic exceptions to this.

Seriously...if you know anybody there that trains hunting does with bumpers, try to watch them for an afternoon. It'll be educating.

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Posted By: Pappy348 Re: Coyotes and blaze orange - 11/08/23
Originally Posted by WStrayer
Game animals see the blob. I wear different patterns top and bottom so my outline isn't as noticeable. I have taken a lot in brown overalls and orange jacket with full orange shirt under the jacket. I huntva ladderstand and on the first hunt of the year I wrap the tree above me with a full orange vest. I do it so other hunters know where my stand is and think I am in it. I do bieve that the turkeys get used to it as well as they stroll.right by

I think you’ve got it about right. Break up the blobs, and it makes your movement less noticeable, and everybody moves….

Got busted by a buck in 2018 while sitting in a treestand because I stiffened up a bit when I heard him in the bushes about 50 yards away. I was in camo, but I had the quiver attached to my xbow, and I think he saw the bright fletching, small as it was, against the otherwise dark surrounding stuff. Their eyes, of course, are designed to pick up movement more than detail.
Posted By: Coyote10 Re: Coyotes and blaze orange - 11/08/23
Camo is a waste of money. Never wear it.
Just need to be appropriate for the temperature. Killed alot of coyotes and deer wearing a hoodie and jeans. Some of those deer were with a traditional bow as well.
Don't know how true it is, but I read that the worst color to wear for most animals is blue as it's at the opposite end of the spectrum to orange. If true, that would mean blue jeans are not advisable.
I have killed many deer wearing blue jeans.
Ben Lurkin has it right. Most nocturnal types of animal's eyes, such as cats, dogs, deer, coons, owls, etc., are designed differently from humans and other day time animal's eyes. It's so that they can see in the dark. That's why their eyes shine back at you when you hit them with a light. Although they can't see the red part of the spectrum, they see way more of the blue part of the spectrum than we can see.

Here's another example of what Ben is showing.

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Originally Posted by scratcherky
I have killed many deer wearing blue jeans.
Get your eyes checked, they weren't deer if they were wearing blue jeans.
Posted By: Hogwild7 Re: Coyotes and blaze orange - 11/20/23
I killed a coyote today wearing blaze orange deer hunting. He crossed 20 yards in front of me. never saw me. He stopped about 40 yards away and posed for me. He messed up.
Posted By: Wyodogger Re: Coyotes and blaze orange - 12/15/23
What I tell everyone who wants to hunt with me: "Stillness is the best camouflage."
Posted By: TA 17 Rem Re: Coyotes and blaze orange - 12/17/23
Quote;Using orange bumpers while dog training really opened my eye into how most dogs see. They'll see white bumpers on top of snow before they'll see blaze orange bumpers, though I do think some dogs are genetic exceptions to this.

Seriously...if you know anybody there that trains hunting does with bumpers, try to watch them for an afternoon. It'll be educating. : Unquote. I train dogs to run coyotes, they track with there noses and eyes if there is enough snow, they can pick out a track. They also run a coyote heads up and eyes on and if you look at a coyote, they have pretty good camo to start with. Stay low on stand and sit in front of a backing.
Posted By: ingwe Re: Coyotes and blaze orange - 12/17/23
Originally Posted by Ben_Lurkin
The Canis family’s eyes are dichromats, IE, they only see blues and yellows. Reds and greens appear as yellow; depicted in the chart below:

[Linked Image from howitsee.com]

Here’s a comparison of what they see and what we see:

[Linked Image from rover.com]

They’re much, much more sensitive to movement than color. Camo is much like flies for fly fishing. They’re made to catch fisherman, not fish. As long as your pattern is broken up, they’ll probably not see you.

This says it best.Canines are basically what we would call red/green color blind.

HOWEVER.....I personally don't like the concept of calling while wearing orange, and its not because of the coyotes eyes, its the birds. Here in the west coyotes and magpies have a symbiotic relationship and often as not magpies will answer the call ahead of the coyotes.Magpies are not color blind....and they can botch a stand for you in a hurry..JMHO
Posted By: Teal Re: Coyotes and blaze orange - 12/17/23
What's messed up - I'm red/orange and blue/green color deficient.


Those pics look almost exactly the same to me. I literally see no difference.
Posted By: oldwoody2 Re: Coyotes and blaze orange - 12/17/23
Deer, yotes, they all can SMELL YOU THINk !! If you didn't smell like a skunk, to them, you'd be good to go !!!!
Posted By: tripod3 Re: Coyotes and blaze orange - 12/17/23
I have called coyotes within arms reach while wearing camo blaze orange. i believe in wearing clothing non contrasting to my surroundings.
Posted By: gte901m Re: Coyotes and blaze orange - 03/26/24
Originally Posted by Riflehunter
Originally Posted by scratcherky
I have killed many deer wearing blue jeans.
Get your eyes checked, they weren't deer if they were wearing blue jeans.


Must have been wearing skinny jeans 😜
Posted By: k22hornet Re: Coyotes and blaze orange - 03/28/24
Regarding blaze orange, several weeks ago, the day after a decent snow fall, I went coyote hunting in our wide open, Eastern Colorado plains, on public lands.

There was a truck in the parking lot when I got there, so I looked out in the fields, and saw a very dark stick figure way out there, maybe 1,500yds. I put my bino's on him to see if I could tell what he was hunting, and walking about 50yds to his side was another guy, in blaze orange jacket, hat and pants.

What surprised me was without the bino's, I probably would not have seen the blaze orange guy, while the dark camo-clad guy stood out easily. This was against a fresh snow background.

Next season, I am going to try wearing blaze orange after a snowfall for coyote hunting, as my 'snow camo'.
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