I've been looking everywhere for Dyna-Tek Coatings Llc Bore Coat. It looks like it has fallen off the face of the earth. Neither Midway or Brownells seem to carry it anymore.

WT?

You could Google Dyna-Tek Bore Coat, which will come up with the Dyna-Tek company's information, and how to contact them. They make a number of other products, and the company's physical address is the same as when their then-PR guy contacted me about DBC almost 20 years ago.

Your google-fu is weak grasshopper.

[email protected]

quote=roanmtn]I have located two bore coat suppliers to coat bores to reduce fouling.

1-Dyna Tek that Mule Deer is familiar with. Only direct available through the co. at this time . $78.00 us $16.00 shipping.
816-444-6266

2-Jen-Tek Industries... $39.50 per 4oz and $56.00 per 8oz plus shipping on each bottle. 816-944-9045

The Jen-Tek Industries sounds like a good deal. Does anyone have experience with Jen-Tek? Also, the lady I talked with at Jen-Tek says their product is better than Dyna-Tek because the Jen-Tek has more ceramics in it.[/quote]

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I mentioned in a post last year that Jen-Tek is a company started and run by Chris Fish, who worked for Dyna-Tek in developing their bore coating. I haven't tried it yet, but will get some if I run out my present supply of DBC.

Just filling in the blanks with price and contact info, otherwise I really DGAS

Well, I did as y'all bidded. I contacted Dyna directly. So far, no reply.

FWIW, I have a RIA pistol that included a 22TCM barrel, that had issues functioning, including extraction. I polished things a bit, and dyna-bore coated the relevant surfaces, and it functioned nicely. Think the stuff is pretty useful, not just for rifle barrels.

If Dyna doesn't reply I would try Jen-Tek. There's more than one company with that name; the one that makes the bore-coat is in Polson, Montana.

Coo

Cool. No joy yet. I'm patiently waiting.

It's likely the best surface treatment available to the average gun owner.

3 coats and 1 hour at 350 degs in the oven makes a slick hard coating that resists corrosion pretty well.

Missed this one. The ONLY reason I quoted part of your post was to provide some context about what I posted to those who were inquiring.

Is it okay if I DGAS about your DGAS?

😁

Dyna Tech never called back.

I called the Jen-Tech number and left voicemail.

I am interested, or in other words, do GAS.

Shaman, please let us know if this Jen-tech company is responsive. Would also like to know if the product works out. I would offer to split the cost of a bottle if anyone is interested.

What is the expected shelf life of Dyna Tek? I have an unopened package of Bore Coat I bought 5+ years ago. Thanks.

how to have been curious about the Dyna bore coat. but I never got around to buy any to give it a try.. maybe they'll start making it again where it's easily available or something else basically the same thing..

I keep mine in the fridge. Seems I remember something about it lasting longer.

DF

Yep....

Tried giving this stuff away 3 years ago, no takers.



Stored upright in 65-75*

Today

Caps buldge and split



All the binder leaked





There is some really good pressure in there from the solvent gassing off over 5+ years so going to end up like this

It lasts quite a bit longer than that when unopened, even when stored in the basement at room temperature.

Looks like a bullet hole in that last photo

Either that or the Bore Coat REALLY gassed off……😂

I had a several year old unopened bottle leak out its contents.

I have seen it last long and also had it leak.

I have an unopened bottle over 10 years old and there is still liquid sloshing inside but as noted it can and does leak.

It's a good idea to use it and not store it long term. Very much avoid storage in a high temp enviroment.

It's good stuff so get it in the bore and on the gun sooner rather than later.

Bore Coat seems to help barrels with firecracking in the throat/leade so don't be afraid to recoat a bore that is seeing some wear.

Did anyone ever get either of these companies to respond?

Nope.
It was getting close to Turkey Season, so I tabled the issue until mid-May.
I'd still like to find bore coat.

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If I'm not mistaken dyna tek was being made originally by NIC!

Called the number for Dyna Tek, selected option 2 for marketing and the gentleman who answered confirmed Dyna Tek would be happy to sell some DBC to anyone. He did suggest that the easiest way to go about it was to go their website and send an inquiry via email.

Will be very interested in how that turns out.

John

I will too. I treated a bunch of rifles with that product years ago and have been very pleased with the results. For the first time in a long while I would like to get some again. Placing an order by contact via email seems at least unusual.

Would prepping a rimfire barrel for DBC or similar differ from the supplied instructions that come with the stuff?

Edit: what would be the accepted/best way to keep the DBC out of a .22LR chamber when applying it to the bore?

I emailed the info address at Dynamic-Tek and got the reply below. I’m going to order some and we’ll see what happens. I don’t expect any problems.

“Good Morning,

Yes, we have plenty of Bore Coat available. To place an order just reply with the quantities you would like to order and the shipping address. Once I receive your order, I will send you a online payment link to complete. Once the payment is complete you will receive a receipt and tracking information. If you have any questions, please give me a call.

Wes Weidman
Email - [email protected]
Office - 816-381-9692
Cell - 239-340-0575”

I got pretty much the same info Al got when I talked to Wes on the phone this afternoon. In addition, if I understand Wes correctly, they are getting ready to market a whole line of products aimed at the outdoor sportsman (shooting/hunting/fishing) market. So we may be seeing DBC and other dyna-tek products at retailers and webtailers in the near future.

If it was any good ....it would not get old and leak out. It would be used up.

I spent some time and money fooling with that snake oil.

I did not care for the results one bit.

Whatever. I treated a bunch of rifles with this years ago and have seen clear benefits. I’ve got a few new barrels to treat and I look forward to getting some more of the product.

It’s so good that, in most cases, it only needs to be applied once to each barrel. For guys that don’t shoot out or buy many barrels, the bottle goes a long way and the contents may go bad before being used up.

Guys that shoot a lot go through many bottles and it never hangs around long enough to go bad.

Or have several (6-7 ) guns to treat. I think I have enough left for one more. What do you think I should buy to use it up on??

I haven't done enough shooting/cleaning to have an opinion on its effectiveness yet, but it comes recommended well by some who do.

As good as Kroil.

I treated the barrel on my 6.8 SPC AR15 in 2016. I did not refrigerate the left over, it did not leak out and it did not go bad.

Would like to hear how and why you came to that conclusion, since they are entirely different products with very different effects on rifle bores.

All Snake oil !

That is how I came to the conclusion.

Based on many years experience.

OK ?

Being more descriptive is inorder.

Yep, as in actual details of how you came to that conclusion.

Can provide the details why I came to the opposite conclusion about DBC in 2007, which I was apparently first gun writer to thoroughly test it.

Well John IIRC a Doug Burche from Dyna Tek admitted in an email they some bad batches go out that contained no ceramics just alcohol in 2015. But fact is what you tested in 07 isn’t exactly the same components.

I bought some in 2016 and coated the barrel of my AR15 6.8 SPC and it worked just like Mule Deer (JB) said that it would. Infact it is still working today.

Swifty,

Doug Burche was the guy who introduced me to DBC, and he would know what he's talking about. But I've used DBC as recently as maybe 3-4 years ago, and it worked just like the first stuff did--which I know due to using the Hawkeye bore-scope I've owned for over 20 years.

If you could provide some more details about how today's DBC isn't the same stuff would appreciate it--just as I would appreciate more details from cisco.

John

I worked closely with Doug Burche to get Dyna-Tek products into Canada for the first time. Since that time, I’ve likely coated dozens of barrels, as recently as a few days ago.

It has always worked as advertised, and mine has not gone bad, even previously opened bottles, when stored in the basement.

Jordan,

Just checked my last batch, which is also stored in my basement, above my cleaning bench. Still good.

But am still waiting to hear from cisco1 about exactly how DBC failed....

John

I don't think he'll be back in this threa, he made a stupid post and ran away.

Yeah, cisco and Swifty make a formidable team regarding DBC.

I have been busy ...

In my experience, I have built a number of custom rifles . Using a variety of barrels, from air-quaged Douglas to Shilen, etc. I like Pac-Nor the best.

I always wanted to take good care of my firearms, both pistols and rifles.

I have become a skeptic . After using a multitude of products , including all the mentioned , and many others . I have used products from Brownells , oh, sounded so good.

I used a diamond coated product , can't remember the name , However , I have kept everything around ....for a bad example.
I considered laser- pulse heating for nano-ceramic fusion. Also, Otis tech ceramic barrel liner.
In lubrication you have at least 2 factors :Hydrodynamic lubrication and Boundary Lubrication.
I don't shoot as much as I used to. I had 100 M range at home and 2 ranges I belonged to. I never punched paper after sighting in , very much.

All that being said I have not observed any benefit of afore-mentioned products .

That is my decidedly limited experience.

I will say ,I wanted to see a difference .

A couple of observations : if someone sends something to test to a "Tester", well, I know how that will turn out.

If you all see a diff, even a perceived diff, if it makes you feel good use it.

Put it on your pancakes if you like.

Now, want to talk powder coated bullets.........?

That is all on this subject.

This stuff has been along long enough, and I have heard mostly good things about it, I am going to try it for myself.

How many rifles will one bottle coat? How many coats does it take to work best?

If you are careful, catching excess into the bottle as you pass back through the muzzle, etc., one bottle will do 6-8 rifles, IME. It typically takes a single coat, but barrels that are particularly bad foulers sometimes benefit from a second application.

Jordan Smith and Mule Deer (JB) have touted DBC as being a revolutionary godsend for many years.......I have tried it in several rifles. A couple it worked very well in, a couple it worked with limited success, a couple there was no improvement at all.
Try it but keep an open mind, might not be the miracle that you are looking for

I’ve never made those claims. At best, it significantly reduces cleaning requirements, and at worst, it makes no difference. Never seen it be detrimental in any way.

After first testing DBC, I have generally only used it in bores where copper-fouling was more than average--or in rifles that are generally fired a LOT in a short period, primarily prairie dog rifles. If the specific barrel doesn't copper-foul a lot then I don't bother, which isn't uncommon among good custom barrels, such as Liljas.

To repeat what I reported after first testing it in 2007, the rifle was a semi-custom .338 Winchester Magnum with a Sako barrel purchased at a local gun show. The rifle shot great, but the barrel fouled considerably. This was obvious in my Hawkeye bore-scope, but it didn't start affecting grouping until around 20 rounds, where the bore looked copper-plated. I started scrubbing it out every 20 rounds with JB Compound, down to bare steel.

So I decided that would be the first test-barrel. After installing DBC the fouling was reduced so much that groups only started opening up after about 75-80 rounds, and even then it was far easier to clean with conventional copper-solvent products.

Also started installing it in varmint-rifle barrels, and it usually at least doubled the cleaning interval required before groups started opening up. In some rifles that was at least 500 rounds between cleanings--which may not have been necessary.

Know some people haven't prepped their bore correctly before installation, because they contacted me about it. After they tried again it worked. The results will vary depending on the bore, but so far have never encountered one where DBC didn't make a difference.

I’ve treated a lot of rifles and thought that all were improved, most to a great degree. Certainly none were worse. I’m happy to have saved a lot of time cleaning rifles.

I received my order of DBC yesterday. Took about 3/4 days after payment through the online invoicing system. It now comes in a small plastic bottle. I will be coating and shooting a couple guns later this month.

Jordan,
Are you second coating it before shooting the rifle? Or after?

One application is typically enough, but if a few shoot-clean cycles reveal another coat is needed, I clean thoroughly (no JB on a patch-wrapped brush this time) and coat again. I always wait a few shoot-clean cycles before making that decision, as DBC’s effectiveness increases over the first few cycles.

You are being more than a bit hyperbolic here.

If you can quote a post from either saying "revolutionary godsend" I will be shocked.

DBC does work but it won't fix all ills that can afflict a barrel.

I have put it in many many good barrels and it's always made them a bit better.