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Posted By: Model70Fan Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/05/22
Hey fellas I’m looking at having an APR Maverick built and I’d like to get y’all thoughts and impressions on these rifles. Most importantly, pictures! I’d like to see some raw APR gun porn!

I’ve got a few things in mind already. I’d like 7mm-08, 6.5 PRC, or maybe 7mm WSM. I’m a guy of few rifles and I like the thought of something that covers a lot of bases. I have a .223, .30-30 and .30-06 rite now so I figure one of those I listed is the way to go but I am open to others. Would like to keep her around 7lbs or less but I’d like to hear from those who have them about how they handle.
Posted By: TimZ Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/05/22
They built me a 6.5 PRC on a Defiance action last year, took awhile but most of the wait was due to the MacMillan stock. Rifle shoots really well. I think they are a good compromise between price and quality, you can spend quite a bit more, but not necessarily get something nicer......
Posted By: TimZ Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/05/22
PM me your email and I can send some pics.......
Posted By: SKane Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/05/22
I have no first-hand experience with their rifles but I've visited their site a number of times to check out the ready-to-ship rifles (and guns that have sold).
I had them quote a rifle for me a year or two ago and they were refreshingly responsive.

Nearly all of the more handy packages have been about 4-6oz north of 7lbs but the Maverick Light should open up a lot of possibilities for you.
Posted By: Model70Fan Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/05/22
I figured based on the ones I see that have sold, that a 7mm-08 with a 20'' bbl would be about rite and a 6.5 PRC with a 22'' would be a few ounces more. I’ll have to ask if the AnTi action is only about $100 up charge. That should take about 11 ounces away which may be worth a little extra coin.
Originally Posted by SKane
I have no first-hand experience with their rifles but I've visited their site a number of times to check out the ready-to-ship rifles (and guns that have sold).
I had them quote a rifle for me a year or two ago and they were refreshingly responsive.

Nearly all of the more handy packages have been about 4-6oz north of 7lbs but the Maverick Light should open up a lot of possibilities for you.
Posted By: SKane Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/05/22
A 20" 7-08 sounds about perfect.

Do it. Do it. Do it. smile
Posted By: Model70Fan Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/05/22
Originally Posted by SKane
A 20" 7-08 sounds about perfect.

Do it. Do it. Do it. smile

Damn it I will! But Brandon must have put Hunter in charge of my tax return and used it to go on a Charlie Sheen binge! So now I must wait, which gives me plenty of time to think up a splendid paint job!
Posted By: Beaver10 Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/05/22
Originally Posted by SKane
A 20" 7-08 sounds about perfect.

Do it. Do it. Do it. smile


Feeding someones addiction again, Mr. Kane?

You enabler...LOL

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PS

Nothing wrong with their Maverick Line card.

I’ve killed several beasts out to 700 yards with the 300 Wby they put together for me several years ago.

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Posted By: Model70Fan Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/05/22
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Provide specs accordingly smile
Posted By: Model70Fan Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/06/22
Deciding between the 6.5 PRC and 7mm-08 is becoming difficult. I like both, but can’t afford both... 7mmPRC?
Posted By: Beaver10 Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/06/22
Originally Posted by Model70Fan
Deciding between the 6.5 PRC and 7mm-08 is becoming difficult. I like both, but can’t afford both... 7mmPRC?


I have both a 7/08 and 6.5 PRC. While there isn’t any flies on a nice 7/08. I enjoy hunting and play shooting with my PRC’s.

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Posted By: Beaver10 Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/06/22
APR 6.5 PRC

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Posted By: Oregonmuley Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/06/22
7MM-08 is never not the right answer when considering a new build grin

This from a certified 7MM-08 loony so take that for what its worth. I keep eyeballing their Apex Hunter and may go that route one day
Posted By: Beaver10 Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/06/22
Originally Posted by Oregonmuley
7MM-08 is never not the right answer when considering a new build grin

This from a certified 7MM-08 loony so take that for what its worth. I keep eyeballing their Apex Hunter and may go that route one day


How many 7/08 do you have now, Frank? I think 5 is the lucky 🍀 number.

😂🦫
Posted By: Kaleb Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/06/22
The build process is enjoyable to me so I would prefer to think about and order my own parts. That said if you’re normal and just want a great rifle I don’t think you’ll beat that rifle at that price.
Posted By: Aviator Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/06/22
Great rifles! I have a 300 Win Mag maverick built on an anTi action.
Posted By: beretzs Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/06/22
Originally Posted by Beaver10
APR 6.5 PRC

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That’s my kinda bench Beav

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And I’d kinda agree with Beav, the 6.5 PRC is sorta like the 270 of 2022. Same capacity with a little more BC.

I do like a 7-08 though. Mild mannered with a heap of performance for so little powder.
Posted By: Beaver10 Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/06/22
Originally Posted by SKane
A 20" 7-08 sounds about perfect.

Do it. Do it. Do it. smile


Say Whaaat.

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I’ve got 2 Mavericks.

A 6.5cm built on a rem700. Hs presicion stock. Timney trigger. Spiral fluted xcaliber barrel. Think it was 2016’ish. Before there a bunch of lefty actions.

A 6.5 prc built on a bighorn origin. Ag composite stock. Triggertech. Spiral fluted mullerworks barrel. Had em put a radial brake on it.

I wouldn’t hesitate to buy another from them. Good communication.

I looked a couple weeks ago. Seems the base line maverick went up a couple $100. No surprise. Everything is more $$.
Posted By: TrueGrit Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/06/22
I'd sure look at these folks before I ordered a new rifle. They've been building gun parts and actions for different firearm manufacturers for years. Your rifle will shoot factory ammo less than .75 and short action less than .50 moa.
https://shop.kaugerarms.com/products/sandia-lr.html
Posted By: JV3 Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/06/22
strange Kauger on their website does not have any rifle weight information
Posted By: Model70Fan Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/06/22
After doing a quick search on brass. The .284 Win has my attention! I assume I’d have to go long action to make use of heavies?
Posted By: SKane Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/06/22
Originally Posted by Model70Fan
After doing a quick search on brass. The .284 Win has my attention! I assume I’d have to go long action to make use of heavies?


No flies on the .284 except for feeding (which I don't hear much about these days).

What are the plans for the rifle? General hunter at modest ranges or long range outfit?
Do have a specific bullet in mind?
Posted By: Model70Fan Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/06/22
I want a versatile hunting rifle for eastern whitetail and black bear and western deer and elk, that in the future I could try to shoot a match with. I’m not super serious about it being light for that reason, but I also don’t want a 8-9 lb rifle. And shooting a match is just to challenge myself. Not really to compete. I need to stop watching Erik Cortina videos before I start down a rabbit hole. It’s a hunting rig first.
Posted By: Model70Fan Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/06/22
Originally Posted by SKane
Originally Posted by Model70Fan
After doing a quick search on brass. The .284 Win has my attention! I assume I’d have to go long action to make use of heavies?


No flies on the .284 except for feeding (which I don't hear much about these days).

What are the plans for the rifle? General hunter at modest ranges or long range outfit?
Do have a specific bullet in mind?


If I went .284 Win I wouldn’t shot anything lighter than 162s
Posted By: Darryle Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/06/22
Why not a 280 Ackley?

I would step up the stock to the Alpine Hunter stock. The APR Hunter stock comb is too low for me, and I see several here have added cheek risers to their Maverick rifles.

I had no issues with the AG Composites Alpine Hunter stock and cheek weld. I love this rifle and their rifles do shoot, but I would definitely choose a different shop for the next one.

Cold bore was also on a clean bore.

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Posted By: RinB Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/06/22


Defiance makes an intermediate length action, the XM, which has a box of about 3.2”. Ideal for 284 which should have a longer throat. Lots of 6.5-284’s built on that action.
The other great choice is the Tikka T3x. The clip center feed system is ideal for 284. As you know there is a good selection of premium brass available due to popularity in F Class rifles.
Posted By: Model70Fan Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/06/22
Originally Posted by RinB


Defiance makes an intermediate length action, the XM, which has a box of about 3.2”. Ideal for 284 which should have a longer throat. Lots of 6.5-284’s built on that action.
The other great choice is the Tikka T3x. The clip center feed system is ideal for 284. As you know there is a good selection of premium brass available due to popularity in F Class rifles.

So the mag box on the APR should be around 3.2? I can ask to be sure. That sounds great if it is!
Posted By: Model70Fan Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/06/22
Originally Posted by Darryle
Why not a 280 Ackley?

I would step up the stock to the Alpine Hunter stock. The APR Hunter stock comb is too low for me, and I see several here have added cheek risers to their Maverick rifles.

I had no issues with the AG Composites Alpine Hunter stock and cheek weld. I love this rifle and their rifles do shoot, but I would definitely choose a different shop for the next one.

Cold bore was also on a clean bore.

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I wish I had more experience with that style of stock. Are you able to handle it well in standing, kneeling situations? A bad cheek weld is something that makes me lose sleep cause it(to me) is essential in shooting.
Posted By: Model70Fan Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/06/22
My only experience with vertical style grips were M16A4s and the M27IAR but you are wrapping your hand around the grip on those and manipulating the selector is different than a typical safety.
A 20” 7mm-08 sounds good, as mentioned above.

Unless someone comes up with a 7prc. 😂🤣😂

Christensen arms is offering a 20” 7-08 in their new FFT rifles.
Posted By: Darryle Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/07/22
Originally Posted by Model70Fan
My only experience with vertical style grips were M16A4s and the M27IAR but you are wrapping your hand around the grip on those and manipulating the selector is different than a typical safety.


I never thought about one until I bought a McWhorter with an A3 style stock. Now, I don't think I could own anything but that style of grip. Extremely comfortable standing, prone, kneeling or at the bench. It was very easy to adapt from the more traditional open grip.

If you are going to have them build your rifle, spend the additional $700 and get the Altitude, less than 9lbs complete with the 26" barrel versus 9 1/2lbs complete with a 24" barrel of the Maverick. Translate that into a significant weight savings especially with the shorter barrel you are wanting.

The comb on the Maverick package is just to low for me when combined with the straight bolt handle on the Defiance Tenacity action. You can go even lower with rings, but you can not cycle the bolt.

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Posted By: Model70Fan Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/07/22
Those bolt handles seem to be pretty common amongst these custom actions. I’ll ask the the guys at Alamo if they can do something about that. The APR hunter action looks like the handle was designed for better bolt throw clearance. If it costs 700 to upgrade the stock then idk about that. Shouldn’t be much of an up charge if any since I’m sticking with the fluted barrel. And it should be around 7-7 1/2 lbs
I originally had the short knob on the bighorn origin.

Didn’t like it.

Wanted a longer one from bighorn. But they wanted like $15 bucks to ship it.

Ended up ordered on from the Polished Knob.

Guy does good work. He’ll make the length and size you want.

IIRC, $35 shipped.

A longer Skeleton bolt he made me.

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Posted By: Model70Fan Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/07/22
How’s the clearance?
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Plenty of room.

Zeiss v4. 4-14x44.

Seekins low (i think , can’t find the box ) rings.
Posted By: Darryle Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/08/22
Originally Posted by Model70Fan
Those bolt handles seem to be pretty common amongst these custom actions. I’ll ask the the guys at Alamo if they can do something about that. The APR hunter action looks like the handle was designed for better bolt throw clearance. If it costs 700 to upgrade the stock then idk about that. Shouldn’t be much of an up charge if any since I’m sticking with the fluted barrel. And it should be around 7-7 1/2 lbs


You are also getting a few other items, like a carbon barrel with the Altitude
Posted By: Model70Fan Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/08/22
I want the steel barrel. Nothing against carbon though.
Posted By: Aviator Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/08/22
I went with the Maverick package,only thing I changed was the anTi action and I used a Vias brake. All up with seekin’s low and Vortex LHT 8.6 lbs.
Posted By: Model70Fan Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/09/22
How much extra for the AnTi action?
Originally Posted by Aviator
I went with the Maverick package,only thing I changed was the anTi action and I used a Vias brake. All up with seekin’s low and Vortex LHT 8.6 lbs.
Posted By: Model70Fan Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/09/22
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thats nice.

ive got the same spiral flute and radial brake
Posted By: Aviator Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/09/22
Originally Posted by Model70Fan
How much extra for the AnTi action?
Originally Posted by Aviator
I went with the Maverick package,only thing I changed was the anTi action and I used a Vias brake. All up with seekin’s low and Vortex LHT 8.6 lbs.



It wasn’t that much if I remember right it was around $100 more that was one of the first anTi actions Alamo received.
Posted By: huntsman22 Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/09/22
any particular reason the rings aren't spaced out to max?
Posted By: Aviator Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/09/22
Originally Posted by huntsman22
any particular reason the rings aren't spaced out to max?


huntsman, I never really thought about it when I mounted that scope. Would they benefit from being out further? I can’t go any further in the back but I could gain a couple slots up front.
Posted By: Model70Fan Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/09/22
Originally Posted by Aviator
Originally Posted by Model70Fan
How much extra for the AnTi action?
Originally Posted by Aviator
I went with the Maverick package,only thing I changed was the anTi action and I used a Vias brake. All up with seekin’s low and Vortex LHT 8.6 lbs.



It wasn’t that much if I remember right it was around $100 more that was one of the first anTi actions Alamo received.

I’ll ask them to do that. More than half pound weight saving according to defiance.
Posted By: OSU_Sig Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/10/22
I took the opportunity to visit Alamo Precision Rifles today. I was pretty impressed with their operation and personnel. I would feel very comfortable having them build me a LH rifle.
Posted By: Model70Fan Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/10/22
Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
I took the opportunity to visit Alamo Precision Rifles today. I was pretty impressed with their operation and personnel. I would feel very comfortable having them build me a LH rifle.

I envy you, that would be the best way to see what fits you and be able to talk to the guys face to face who are going to build it.
Posted By: Model70Fan Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/11/22
Originally Posted by RinB


Defiance makes an intermediate length action, the XM, which has a box of about 3.2”. Ideal for 284 which should have a longer throat. Lots of 6.5-284’s built on that action.
The other great choice is the Tikka T3x. The clip center feed system is ideal for 284. As you know there is a good selection of premium brass available due to popularity in F Class rifles.

They recommend I go with the long action if I decide on the .284 Win
Posted By: OSU_Sig Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/11/22
I had a conversation with Jimmy & Vic about building a SAUM. They both recommended a long acton to prevent any potential feeding issues.
Posted By: Model70Fan Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/11/22
Jimmy was the guy I spoke to on the phone, very helpful. He said basically the intermediate length actions are a fairly new thing and to make it work the way most people want it ends up costing more money and headache than it’s worth.
Posted By: OSU_Sig Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/11/22
he mentioned the intermediate length but I'm not sure its available in a LH config. I may likely push back the SAUM project for a while and look at something different.
Not a Maverick but a 28 Nosler built to my wants using the APR action (TL technologies makes it), bartlein sendero, McMillan Game hunter, APA dbm and trigger tech. This rifle is as accurate as any I have ever seen and the fit and finish was perfect.

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Posted By: Ackleyfan Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/21/22
Originally Posted by Model70Fan
Jimmy was the guy I spoke to on the phone, very helpful. He said basically the intermediate length actions are a fairly new thing and to make it work the way most people want it ends up costing more money and headache than it’s worth.


Not sure I'm buying his explanation as the Defiance XM actions were designed for the 284 Win length cartridge as well as the short mags, I have a 6.5 Gap built with the xm length that works perfect!
Posted By: 805 Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/21/22
Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
I had a conversation with Jimmy & Vic about building a SAUM. They both recommended a long acton to prevent any potential feeding issues.


Easily remedied with a Wyatt’s box in a standard SA. Or build it on a M70 WSM action.

The problem with defiance XM action is you basically have to buy their bottom metal setup for it also and they charge quite a bit for it.
Posted By: OSU_Sig Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/21/22
The M70 WSM action was my initial plan and I still may go that way but it won't be with Alamo. I don't think they work with M70 actions at this time.
Strongly recommend Alamo-- very knowledgable shop with hunters and competitive shooters working throughout- over the years they've built me a number of rifles on Rem 700 and Defiance actions... 22-250ai, 6cm, 257wby, 7saum, 300norma, 338rum and I'm probably forgetting one somewhere-- every single rifle shot incredibly well both with factory ammo and with handloads. Most impressive to me was the 338rum with factory Barnes LRX got a 100yd zero (5 shots) and then immediately stepped it out with the next 3 shots to 400, 600, 800yds-- center punching 1 MOA plates.

To my knowledge they have and were working on CRF actions-- they had a Defiance CRF (375H&H) and may rebarrel a Kimber for me if I go that route.

They won't steer you wrong on action lengths as long as you are honest with what you want the rifle to do. I wanted my 7saum as light as possible-- it is 7lbs 1.6oz with a scope-- but I had to go with a short action anTi to save weight-- which is fine because my bullets of choice were 162ELDM and 169HH.
Posted By: Ackleyfan Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/21/22
Originally Posted by 805
Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
I had a conversation with Jimmy & Vic about building a SAUM. They both recommended a long acton to prevent any potential feeding issues.


Easily remedied with a Wyatt’s box in a standard SA. Or build it on a M70 WSM action.

The problem with defiance XM action is you basically have to buy their bottom metal setup for it also and they charge quite a bit for it.


I believe Hawkins Precision makes a dbm for the xm length now!
Posted By: SKane Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/21/22
Originally Posted by Ackleyfan
Originally Posted by 805
Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
I had a conversation with Jimmy & Vic about building a SAUM. They both recommended a long acton to prevent any potential feeding issues.


Easily remedied with a Wyatt’s box in a standard SA. Or build it on a M70 WSM action.

The problem with defiance XM action is you basically have to buy their bottom metal setup for it also and they charge quite a bit for it.


I believe Hawkins Precision makes a dbm for the xm length now!



You are correct sir!
Posted By: 805 Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/21/22
Originally Posted by Ackleyfan
Originally Posted by 805
Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
I had a conversation with Jimmy & Vic about building a SAUM. They both recommended a long acton to prevent any potential feeding issues.


Easily remedied with a Wyatt’s box in a standard SA. Or build it on a M70 WSM action.

The problem with defiance XM action is you basically have to buy their bottom metal setup for it also and they charge quite a bit for it.


I believe Hawkins Precision makes a dbm for the xm length now!

Originally Posted by Ackleyfan
Originally Posted by 805
Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
I had a conversation with Jimmy & Vic about building a SAUM. They both recommended a long acton to prevent any potential feeding issues.


Easily remedied with a Wyatt’s box in a standard SA. Or build it on a M70 WSM action.

The problem with defiance XM action is you basically have to buy their bottom metal setup for it also and they charge quite a bit for it.


I believe Hawkins Precision makes a dbm for the xm length now!


Thanks for the info. Hawkins is an excellent company.
Posted By: Model70Fan Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 04/22/22
My assumption is the inlet is different and maybe they receive their stock in either short or long anything different would be considered custom.
Posted By: Daveh Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 05/05/22
I just want to add to the Alamo fan club. Great price, delivered on time (mostly), good communication and rifles shoot and function….
Been almost a year since my last build which I provided all the parts except the stock. Took about 7-8 weeks…👍

Just this week been thinking about another build but can’t decide what chambering as I have about all that are good…..

Leaning 284 even though I have one already on a T3 action / Hawkhill #2…Chambered by Shaen….
Posted By: Sako76 Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 05/26/22
They built me a Maverick 300 Weatherby on a Defiance action and I have a Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x50 mounted in low NF rings and the bolt clears. I haven't shot it yet
Posted By: WiFowler Re: Alamo Precision Rifles - 05/26/22
Originally Posted by SKane
I have no first-hand experience with their rifles but I've visited their site a number of times to check out the ready-to-ship rifles (and guns that have sold).
I had them quote a rifle for me a year or two ago and they were refreshingly responsive.

Nearly all of the more handy packages have been about 4-6oz north of 7lbs but the Maverick Light should open up a lot of possibilities for you.

Did you order one? laugh
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