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Posted By: sourdough44 New Marlin 444S, From 1973 - 09/25/21

I was at the local gunshow today, not expecting much. The only thing that caught my eye was a minty Marlin lever in 444, dated 1973. I’ve had one on the mind for years. I was even on the motorcycle, so I had to strap it on with bungees, cased.

Anyway, just looking over reloading supplies, came with mounts & a cheap scope too.
Posted By: pat8386 Re: New Marlin 444S, From 1973 - 09/26/21
You bought a fine lever gun and you can’t beat the 444 Marlin for fun and hunting versatility. It will never be as popular as the 45-70 but it still gets the job done. My Marlin 444 was manufactured in 1967 and is very accurate with the Hornady 265 grain FP and a near maximum load of H4198. The Speer 270 grain SP shoots just as well.

It’s in vogue nowadays to bad mouth 240 grain performance which was initially the only bullet available in the 444 Marlin. But if you go back and read the literature available at the time it was introduced in the mid 1960’s guys like Ken Waters and Rick Jamison spoke very highly of the new 240 grain round and had no problems flattening just about everything they shot with it.
Yes, I already have some nice .433” bullets from beartoooth, 265 grain GC’ed. I’d do lighter plinkers too. I’ve done the range with the 45-70, from light trapdoor loads up to modern velocities. I have 150 Starline cases on the way, Midway may still have some.
Posted By: jeeper Re: New Marlin 444S, From 1973 - 09/26/21



444S is a mighty fine rifle. I have one from 77 I bought a few years back. It's a moa shooter with 265 flat points and H4198.
Posted By: rem141r Re: New Marlin 444S, From 1973 - 09/26/21
that was the first big bore i ever shot. about 1975 or so my brothers friend had one and they took me shooting. i was 14 or 15. i thought it was the biggest cannon in the world at the time. i kept the empty brass for years. i have always had a hankering for a 444P but never bought one.
I expect that Swift A-Frames and Gold Dots in the lighter weights will stabilize just fine in the 1-38” twist of that gun, and hold together just fine too. The Barnes 225 XPB wants 1-20” however.

Nice find.
Posted By: zcm82 Re: New Marlin 444S, From 1973 - 09/28/21
The 200XPB shoots pretty well from my Dad's old slower twist 444 with H4198 and H322. I had been thinking about buying it off him at one point and had tinkered with some loads to see how well I could get it to shoot.

The 225XPB weren't keyholing from it at 50 yards, but you could see they were close with the extremely ragged holes compared to the clean punches through the paper with the 200s.
I've always wanted one. I've had the 450 M and still have the 45-70 but never the 444


yep you got a fine ole Marlin

although I always preferred the 18" Guide gun series

Hornady developed the 265 gr flat nose for the 444

Look for some of those to hand load
Just to clarify a nit, is that the 444S or just 444? It's my understanding that the S means Safety model and Marlin didn't introduce the cross bolt safeties until the early 80's.
The 444S stood for sporter model, the 444SS was the sporter safety model.
Originally Posted by Jayhawker
The 444S stood for sporter model, the 444SS was the sporter safety model.


What makes it a sporter safety model?
Posted By: jeeper Re: New Marlin 444S, From 1973 - 10/13/21
Originally Posted by muleshoe
Originally Posted by Jayhawker
The 444S stood for sporter model, the 444SS was the sporter safety model.


What makes it a sporter safety model?



Has the cross bolt safety
Originally Posted by jeeper
Originally Posted by muleshoe
Originally Posted by Jayhawker
The 444S stood for sporter model, the 444SS was the sporter safety model.


What makes it a sporter safety model?



Has the cross bolt safety



I thought this would be the answer.

So I have a 444ss that was born in 1979 per the first two digits of the serial, 21. This rifle definitely does not have the cross bolt safety.

Could the "ss" come into play in the late '70s for some other reason than the CBS? Doesn't really seem likely. A mystery...

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Mine also shoots the Hornady 265 flats very well on top of a fair amount of 4198.
Originally Posted by Jayhawker
The 444S stood for sporter model, the 444SS was the sporter safety model.

Got it, thanks for the clarification. That prompted me to do some more research and I found this on the Cast Boolits website.

Model: Marlin 444
Years made: 1965-71
Serial Numbers (first 2 digits): AA, AB, AC, AD, and 69 through 71
Barrel Length: 24"
Barrel Rifling: Micro-Groove, 12 lands
Barrel Twist: 1/38
1971: Mar-Shield finish and vented recoil pad appear.

Model: Marlin 444S - Sporter
Years made: 1972-83
Serial Numbers (first 2 digits): 27 descending through 17
Barrel Length: 22"
Barrel Rifling: Micro-Groove, 12 lands
Barrel Twist: 1/38
Notes:
1976: Forearm cap replaces barrel band.
1978: Honed chamber

Model: Marlin 444 SS
Years made: 1984-98
Serial Numbers (first 2 digits): 16 descending through 00 (2000). Year 2001 starts 99 descending.
Barrel Length: 22"
Barrel Rifling: Micro-Groove, 12 lands
Barrel Twist: 1/38
Note: The side safety appeared with this model change.

Model: Marlin 444 SS
Years made: 1999-2002
Serial Numbers (first 2 digits): 01, 00, 99, & 98
Barrel Length: 22"
Barrel Rifling: Ballard, 6 lands
Barrel Twist: 1/20
Can beat the 444 for a brush gun. I have a 444S built in 1974 my uncle bought new. I still take it out for close quarters with iron sights a few times per year. I haven't worked a load yet but it shoots well with the 240gr Corelokts. I have some Leverrevolutions but haven't tried them as of yet.
Posted By: SPK Re: New Marlin 444S, From 1973 - 11/03/21
Ironically I took my Marlin 444 (1971) in the woods for the first time this past Monday. I usually hunt with a 336 in 35 or 30-30, but really wanted to take a deer with this one. A factory Remington 240 grain soft point flat out did the job on a nice doe. I had not shot that rifle in 3 years or so after sighting in a new scope. What a hoot to shoot!
Posted By: SPK Re: New Marlin 444S, From 1973 - 11/25/21
Am I just lucky? Shot another deer (small buck) this evening with the 444. Like the doe in my earlier post, he dropped as if hit by lightning. Is it my lack of experience with the cartridge, or is this the "usual result" with the caliber using a Remington 240 grain soft point? I'm getting used to zero tracking.......
Originally Posted by SPK
Am I just lucky? Shot another deer (small buck) this evening with the 444. Like the doe in my earlier post, he dropped as if hit by lightning. Is it my lack of experience with the cartridge, or is this the "usual result" with the caliber using a Remington 240 grain soft point? I'm getting used to zero tracking.......


I never used one but the guys I know who did swore by them. And the 240 grain was the only load anybody used back then
Posted By: D_wit22 Re: New Marlin 444S, From 1973 - 11/25/21
Love my .444. I have an older boat paddle stock version and they are deadly accurate
The 240 gain bullet was designed for 44 mag velocity. So pushed to 2200 ps, it opens violently in deer.
I get the same effect with 300 JHP in 45-70 when loaded to Marlin pressures.
Nothing beats a large diameter bullet on game. My preference is still .358" or larger
Posted By: MOGC Re: New Marlin 444S, From 1973 - 11/26/21
Originally Posted by D_wit22
Love my .444. I have an older boat paddle stock version and they are deadly accurate


What is a "boat paddle stock"?
Posted By: D_wit22 Re: New Marlin 444S, From 1973 - 11/26/21
The first 2 years they made the .444 the stock was more stretched out and I’ve heard it referred to as a “paddle stock” let me try and find a picture
Posted By: MOGC Re: New Marlin 444S, From 1973 - 11/26/21
Is this the straight grip stock of the early big bore Marlins? The early rifles had straight wrist stocks, later ones got the curved pistol type grip.
Posted By: D_wit22 Re: New Marlin 444S, From 1973 - 11/27/21
Yep. Straight grips are what I’m referring to
Posted By: MOGC Re: New Marlin 444S, From 1973 - 11/27/21
Gotcha...
Posted By: Futura Re: New Marlin 444S, From 1973 - 12/01/21
What’s a fair price for one of these in decent shape? I found one in a pawn shop. It’s a 1982 pre-safety 444S. Has a matte Leupold VX1 2-7x33. Tag says $949 but the lady told me to come back Friday as they are having a sale. She said she would give me their lowest price.
Posted By: Jcon72 Re: New Marlin 444S, From 1973 - 12/11/21
I lucked out last week while we were visiting out of town and happened to visit a pawn shop while waiting for my wife to take care of some other business. Found this 2nd year production (1966) for a super price in today's market. I've located a die set and some bullets, now to find some brass to load and maybe a front sight hood...

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