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‘Elitists, crybabies and junky degrees’: Education advocates see growing disdain for universities
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PUBLISHED: November 26, 2017 at 12:00 pm | UPDATED: November 27, 2017 at 3:18 am

By Kevin Sullivan and Mary Jordan | Washington Post

COCHISE, Arizona — Frank Antenori shot the head off a rattlesnake at his back door last summer — a deadeye pistol blast from 20 feet. No college professor taught him that. The U.S. Army trained him, as a marksman and a medic, on the “two-way rifle range” of Afghanistan and Iraq.

Useful skills. Smart return on taxpayers’ investment. Not like the waste he sees at too many colleges and universities, where he says liberal professors teach “ridiculous” classes and indoctrinate students “who hang out and protest all day long and cry on our dime.”

“Why does a kid go to a major university these days?” said Antenori, 51, a former Green Beret who served in the Arizona state legislature. “A lot of Republicans would say they go there to get brainwashed and learn how to become activists and basically go out in the world and cause trouble.”

Antenori is part of an increasingly vocal campaign to transform higher education in America. Though U.S. universities are envied around the world, he and other conservatives want to reduce the flow of government cash to what they see as elitist, politically correct institutions that often fail to provide practical skills for the job market.

To the alarm of many educators, nearly every state has cut funding to public colleges and universities since the 2008 financial crisis. Adjusted for inflation, states spent $5.7 billion less on public higher education last year than in 2008, even though they were educating more than 800,000 additional students, according to the State Higher Education Executive Officers Association.

In Arizona, which has had a Republican governor and legislature since 2009, lawmakers have cut spending for higher education by 54 percent since 2008; the state now spends $3,500 less per year on every student, according to the progressive Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. Tuition has soared, forcing students to shoulder more of the cost of their degrees.

Meanwhile, public schools in Arizona and across the nation are welcoming private donors, including the conservative Koch brothers. In nearly every state, the Charles Koch Foundation funds generally conservative-leaning scholars and programs in politics, economics, law and other subjects. John Hardin, the foundation’s director of university relations, said its giving has tripled from about $14 million in 2011 to $44 million in 2015 as the foundation aims to “diversify the conversation” on campus.

People across the ideological spectrum are worried about the cost of college, skyrocketing debt from student loans and rising inequality in access to quality degrees. Educators fear the drop in government spending is making schools harder to afford for low- and middle-income students.

State lawmakers blame the cuts on falling tax revenue during the recession; rising costs of other obligations, especially Medicaid and prisons; and the need to balance their budgets. But even as prosperity has returned to many states, there is a growing partisan divide over how much to spend on higher education. Education advocates worry that conservative disdain threatens to undermine universities.

In July, a Pew Research Center study found that 58 percent of Republicans and GOP-leaning independents believe colleges and universities have a negative effect “on the way things are going in the country,” up from 37 percent two years ago. Among Democrats, by contrast, 72 percent said they have a positive impact.

A Gallup poll in August found that only about a third of Republicans had confidence in universities, which they viewed as too liberal or political. Other studies show that overwhelming numbers of white working-class men do not believe a college degree is worth the cost.

A single year at many private universities costs more than the median U.S. household income of $59,000. Though most students receive financial aid, a four-year degree can cost more than a quarter-million dollars. Tuition at public universities has soared, too, and a degree can easily cost more than $100,000.

It’s not just the money: Dozens of the most prestigious schools reject more than 80 percent of applicants, and the admissions system often favors the wealthy and connected.

“The new upper class has nothing to do with money. It has to do with where you were educated,” said Arizona State University President Michael Crow, who is pushing to make quality degrees more accessible to lower-income students.

Antenori views former President Barack Obama, a Harvard-educated lawyer who taught at the University of Chicago Law School, as the embodiment of the liberal establishment. Antenori said liberal elites with fancy degrees who have been running Washington for so long have forgotten those who think differently.

“If you don’t do everything that their definition of society is, you’re somehow a knuckle-dragging Neanderthal cave man,” Antenori said.

Antenori was drawn to Donald Trump, he said, because he was the “reverse of Obama,” an “anti-politically correct guy” whose attitude toward the status quo is “change it, fix it, get rid of it, crush it, slash it.”

Even though Trump boasts of his Ivy League degree from the University of Pennsylvania, Antenori said he “had a different air about him.” Unlike Obama, Trump has not emphasized the importance of Americans going to college.

During the campaign, Trump said many colleges “have gone crazy” and that young people were “choking on debt.” He criticized universities for getting “so much money from the government” while “raising their fees to the point that’s ridiculous.”

Hillary Clinton trounced Trump in the nation’s most educated counties, but Trump won white voters without a college degree by 37 points.

Though Trump has largely ignored higher education during his first year in office, his son Donald Trump Jr. recently excoriated universities during a speech in Texas, for which he was paid $100,000. On college campuses, he said, “Hate speech is anything that says America is a good country. That our founders were great people. That we need borders. Hate speech is anything faithful to the moral teachings of the Bible.”

Trump Jr. went on to say that many universities offer Americans a raw deal: “We’ll take $200,000 of your money; in exchange, we’ll train your children to hate our country. . . . We’ll make them unemployable by teaching them courses in zombie studies, underwater basket weaving and, my personal favorite, tree climbing.”

Antenori, who served as a delegate for Trump at the 2016 National Republican Convention, loves that kind of talk.

Finally, he said, people in power understand how he feels.

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Antenori was born in Scranton, Pennsylvania, and dreamed of playing football at Pennsylvania State University. But he started partying and his grades slipped in his senior year of high school. His father balked at paying for college.

“I’m not paying for C’s,” Antenori recalled his father saying. “You want to go? You pay for it.”

So at 17, he joined the Army, which promised him $20,000 toward college if he enlisted for three years. He stayed on, joined the Green Berets and became a medic. He didn’t get around to college until he was 32.

Still on active duty, he enrolled in a pre-med program at Campbell University in North Carolina, a Baptist school a few miles from Fort Bragg. He earned a bachelor’s degree taking classes four nights a week and on weekends.

After he retired from the Army in 2004, he moved to Tucson, where he works as a program manager for a major defense contractor. Earlier this year he completed an online MBA through Grand Canyon University, a for-profit Christian school in Phoenix.

“I got functional degrees that helped me move up in the corporate world,” he said, crunching through the parched grass on his 40-acre ranch in the southeastern Arizona desert. Compact and muscular, wearing a red T-shirt and dusty work boots, he speaks with jackhammer bluntness.

Antenori said many young people would be better off attending more affordable two-year community colleges that teach useful skills and turn out firefighters, electricians and others. Obama promoted that same idea, launching new efforts to boost community college and workplace training. But Antenori said he believes Obama pushed young people too hard toward four-year degrees.

“The establishment has created this thing that if you don’t go to college, you’re somehow not equal to someone else who did,” Antenori said, sitting with his wife, Lesley, at the dining room table in their modest one-story ranch house.

Antenori said when he was in high school in the 1980s, students were directed toward college or vocational training depending on their abilities.

“The mind-set now is that everybody is going to be a doctor,” he said. “Instead of telling a kid whose art sucks, ‘You’re a crappy artist,’ they say, ‘Go follow your dream.’ ”

The Antenoris did not steer their two sons, 23 and 22, toward college, and neither went. One helps at home on the ranch, and the other is enlisted in the Army.

Antenori is just as happy his sons aren’t hanging out with the “weirdos” he reads about on Campus Reform, a conservative website with a network of college reporters whose stated mission is to expose “liberal bias and abuse on America’s campuses.”

In a sign of the intensely partisan climate on campus, its recent headlines include: “Prof wants ‘body size’ added to diversity curricula,” “Students cover free speech wall with vulgar anti-Trump graffiti” and “College Dems leader resigns after declaring hatred of white men.”

The federal government spends $30 billion a year on Pell grants, which help lower-income students, including a large number of minorities, attend college. But studies show that half of Pell grant recipients drop out before earning a degree.

The overall college dropout rate is also high. Only 59 percent of students who start at four-year institutions graduate within six years, according to the National Center for Education Statistics. That leaves millions with debt but no degree.

More than 44 million Americans are paying off student loans, including a growing number of people over 60, according to the Federal Reserve. The average student loan debt of a 2016 college graduate was $37,000. At $1.4 trillion, U.S. student loan debt is now larger than credit card debt.

Antenori said taxpayers should help pay only for degrees, such as those in engineering, medicine or law, that lead directly to jobs. If a student wants to study art or get a “junky” degree in “diversity studies or culture studies,” they should go to a private school, he said.

And he said dropouts who have received government aid should pay it back: “That would be awesome,” he said, flashing a big smile.

“You want to create someone who’s going to be a contributor, not a moocher,” Antenori said. “Go out and generate revenue; that’s what it’s all about.”

– – –

Steve Farley could not disagree more.

“This whole idea that government should be run more like a business is so profoundly morally flawed,” said Farley, a Democratic state senator who is running for governor and used to spar regularly with Antenori when the Republican served in the state legislature from 2009 to 2013.

“Government should be run like a family. We should be raising our children to be the best people they can be,” Farley said. “We should not be manufacturing them to be products to be consumed. That is a basic ethical and moral flaw in this whole argument, that everything’s got to have financial payback so we can reduce taxes for the Koch brothers.”

It was Politics and Pizza night at a community center in suburban Phoenix, and Farley was speaking to 100 people in folding chairs listening to Democratic candidates running in 2018. They cheered when Farley, in a crisp white dress shirt and a yellow tie, blasted Republican cuts to education funding.

“We choose to give our money away in corporate tax cuts and corporate sales tax loopholes,” said Farley, 54. “It’s my crusade to get rid of those loopholes and fund our public education system at every level.”

The views of many conservatives are being fanned by Trump, he said, including a vilification of universities that is “corrosive to our democracy and our society in general.”

“The whole liberal bastion idea is just absurd,” Farley said, noting the growing amount of money on campuses from conservative donors.

A graduate of Williams College, a highly selective private liberal arts school in Massachusetts, Farley is an artist and graphic designer who invented a process for turning photographs into images on ceramic tiles, which he sells across the country.

Farley said music and art are critical to education, invention and creativity “that can lift us from all these problems that we seem surrounded with these days.” He noted that Apple founder Steve Jobs credited a college calligraphy course with helping spark the design of the first Macintosh computer.

Farley worries that the withdrawal of public funds to colleges is widening the class divide. Public universities have long been the surest route to a degree for those who are not wealthy. But as tuition rises, they are beyond the reach of more people. A recent study by New America, a Washington think tank, found that since the 1990s there has been a sharp decrease in low-income students at the nation’s top public universities and a sharp rise in wealthy students.

Trump hit higher education hard in his first budget proposal, which called for sharp cuts to the federal work-study program, the National Institutes of Health and other programs that fund university research. The House recently approved a tax overhaul that would cut corporate rates while imposing a new tax on the endowments of many of the nation’s wealthiest universities and eliminating the deduction for student loan interest.

“Public education at every level is the only tool we’ve ever invented to effectively allow people to lift themselves from poverty,” said Farley, the son of two public school teachers. “In Arizona, one in four children live in poverty right now. If you take away that tool there is no hope for our future-none.”

– – –

Arizona State University President Michael Crow says universities must change because “the standard model is elitist,” and “if we don’t learn how to communicate better and work with the community, there are going to be pitchforks and tar-and-feather buckets waiting outside the gates for us.”

Crow, one of the nation’s leading voices on higher education innovation, agrees that it is critical for universities to change because “the standard model is elitist.”

“The system is creating social disruption,” he said. “It is creating this dynamic where people are not connected” and parents think, “Oh, my kid can never get into one of those great universities.”

Crow is working with 11 other public university presidents to bring more low-income students to campus and increase graduation rates.

He said there is an indisputable return on investment for a college degree. College graduates earn more, pay more taxes and are less likely to need government assistance, he said.

“A lot is at stake,” he said. “Education is the single most important predictor of social mobility for the last hundred years; it drives the economy.”

But, he said, “There is fear and angst about the future. People are looking around and saying to universities, ‘What are you doing for me? You guys at the universities are building robots that are going to replace my job.’ ”

Jobs that require only a high school diploma are disappearing fast, he said: “The old way where a guy like my dad or my grandparents — really smart people, but not educated — could do almost anything is just not going to work anymore.”

When Crow arrived on campus in 2002, the state provided about half of ASU’s budget. That has since been slashed to 10 percent, he said. So Crow spends much of his time courting private donors and looking for ways to lower costs and connect his school to the changing workplace.

“If we don’t learn how to communicate better and work with the community,” Crow said, “there are going to be pitchforks and tar-and-feather buckets waiting outside the gates for us.”

Crow said Arizona’s share of the ASU’s budget was about 50 percent when he arrived in 2002, and that’s been slashed to 10 percent now.

– – –

Two years ago, Antenori moved out of Tucson to rural Cochise because he “couldn’t take the hippies anymore. They were raising my taxes for every stupid little thing, like bike paths and puppy palaces.”

He lived in a tightly packed subdivision, with a homeowner’s association that gave him grief because his pick-up truck was slightly too big for the driveway.

So now he and his family live in a low-tax patch of desert in the shadow of the Dragoon Mountains, in a county that voted for Trump. He can bow-hunt for deer on his own land, keeping one eye out for mountain lions.

“The only noise I hear is the damn coyotes howling at night,” he said, looking out over the mesquite trees under perfect blue skies. “My blood pressure has dropped 20 points since I moved here.”

He and his buddies often gather at Silver Saddle Steakhouse, a Tucson lunch spot frequented by sheriff’s deputies ordering $12 mesquite-grilled steaks. Antenori said “95 percent of the people I hang with” share his views.

A year after Trump’s election, Antenori gives the president “a B, maybe a B-plus.” He has been disappointed with Trump’s failure to repeal Obamacare but thrilled with his conservative judicial appointments.

And he loves that Trump’s White House is less “snobbish” and more welcoming to people like him. Antenori is tired, he said, of being condescended to for thinking universities should be more practical, not havens for “damn crybabies and spoiled brats.”


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Most of what's wrong in this country today comes from the versities.

Diversity and University.

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a lot of what this guy says is right on the mark. AS to ASU i was attending a degree ceremony there one time, the student speaker was a black guy dressed like a woman, high heals everything. I remember his remarks every body loved him, and if he could get a degree there anybody could. Lot of social science degrees awarded. As to engineering degrees, it seemed like almost all of them were awarded to foreign exchange students.
Tucson is indeed a place of the blue, liberal, lots of hippies, wack jobs. I can very well understand why he moved to Cochise county.
The state wide azzwipe newspaper published a story some years ago about this girl working as a barrista in some coffee shop.
she had graduated with over 100k in student debt, and a degree in something like asian transsexual studies. Couldn't figure out why she
could not get that job. I have a niece that is a corporate attorney now, and doing quite well. But i remember some of the classes she took at the UofA, on feminist thought, gender classification, all the hot buttoms of the left.
I have another relative that just got a masters from Grand Canyon University in a medical program. In september went to the graduation, they were cranking out people for nursing programs, stuff like that.


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Good education, yes; bullschitt education, no.

Half the kids graduating high school cannot functionally, read, write & do math at a full HS competency level.

First place to start; then fix the state funded universities..............the private ones will always do as they want, just give them no public money.

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I'm trying to get my son to understand and take advantage of a 2 year degree from a college.

He just doesn't get it though and I'm about at a point where I'm tired of talking to him about it.

The key to a 2 year degree is don't try to compete with a 4 year graduate for one - get specialized training in a job that is in demand.

in one ear and out the other. He has all the answers.

I'm also walking a fine line with my daughter who is looking at schools. At some point I want to have a talk about "our" values versus the indoctrination she is about to receive for the next 4 years.


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“We’ll take $200,000 of your money; in exchange, we’ll train your children to hate our country. . . . We’ll make them unemployable by teaching them courses in zombie studies, underwater basket weaving and, my personal favorite, tree climbing.”

That's priceless.

The article talks about cutting spending $3500 "per student." Best to cut the worthless "social justice majors" 100% and not cut the real and useful courses, like engineering.

I see where the Justice Department is investigating Harvard for race discrimination. It seems that Asian background students have to have 450 points higher on their SATs to get into Harvard than blacks do. i hope Harvard gets nailed.


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I don't know about Harvard but Princeton subtracts 60 points on an Asian candidates SAT score (against whites) and adds 220 points for African Americans.

So as a race, Princeton sees African Americans inferior to Whites, and Whites inferior to Asians.

so much for the content of their character versus the color of their skin.

I'm 100% for rewarding students who graduate with a degree in a field that is in demand (such as STEM) with a reduction in student loans or some other incentive. I also think we should staple a green card on to every foreign student who graduates here with a degree in STEM or Medicine (unless they are Muslim- why are they here anyways?). These are people that are going to building this country up, paying alot in taxes and most likely contributing to the creation of jobs at some point.

We should also encourage students in some way to get a vocational skill that is in demand.

You want to study Art or Literature? fine but no taxpayer incentives coming your way.

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Frank Antonori ran for the House of Representatives several years ago. I attended several campaign events and supported him in this endeavor. Got to meet him and he is a good guy. Says what he thinks and means what he says. Unfortunately, like most people I support, he didn't win. Martha McSally now holds that position. By the way the Silver Saddle is one of my favorite places to eat in Tucson.

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Back when i was in school there was a choice trade school or college.

I figured that i could get started faster in life with a job that payed money.

I have done some courses in computers and petro geology but made a life with a trade.
Have nothing against them but it seems to me that they offer a bunch of tripe that has no place in real life.

My daughter got her Masters a few years ago and while not paying for all of her stuff,she did work the whole time,paying as she went.

Underwater basket weaving indeed,just never heard of it in my life time.

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My son just completed his MBA a few weeks ago. His employer picked up the cost after he’d used up the GI Bill funding that, with the Navy tuition assistance program when he was still in, paid for his undergraduate degree.

When he flunked out of college on his first attempt, right out of high school I told him, “That loud noise you just heard was my checkbook slamming shut. That doesn’t change the fact that you need an education, but you’ll have to pay for it yourself now. If I were you, I’d be talking to some recruiters.” He done good.

My wife teaches at the local university full time and at a well known Central NY basketball university part time. Hard schitt, accounting and finance. You should hear some of the stories she brings home. The biggest problem most of these snowflakes have is everything has been made too easy for them.


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The disdain is growing rapidly. The tech center here is gearing up for a large influx of students interested in the trades instead of 4 years of college and a huge debt to pay off. A lot of parents are involved in the push because they don't want to see their kids saddled with the debt like they were.


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Met a fellow many years ago from New Jersey who had gone into a union carpentry program out of high school instead of going to college like so many of his contemporaries. Don’t quote me on the requirements or exact titles but IIRC it took four years to go from apprentice to journeyman carpenter. He was in his early 30’s and generally made more money than his friends, several of whom had Master’s degrees. To be accurate, he made more on a monthly basis but made less per year since he only worked about 6-8 months per year. I suppose he could have worked all year but at that point in his life he would rather work to make enough to live on then spent the rest of the time traveling or skiing or generally enjoying himself.


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As the father of two young boys, I worry about their education.

I figure my first responsibilities are to teach them a work ethic and how to learn. After that, hopefully I can provide the guidance they need to suceed. Whether it be in academia, business, science, or trades.


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Another big elephant entering the room is robots. They have the promise of bringing manufacturing back into the USA but without the manufacturing jobs. Menial or even skilled factory labor will become more and more rare as machines take over their functions.

I guess the thing to do for someone who doesn’t want to be a doctor/lawyer/CPA is to learn how to build and repair robots...


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Places hire folks that will make them money.
They don't give a flip how good one feels about their level of enlightenment.
Interesting the leftists hate.........when 2 yr tech degrees make more than masters in liberal nonsense.

Kid I know got law degree, no job.............6 months now.

I suspect my middle kid will get masters, maybe PHD and end up working for a university.
But she's already getting fed up with the liberal crap.
She's starting to see the system/scam.

She dreads the "I told ya so" LOL

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The government needs to look at controlling college costs just as it does with healthcare. Whether you realize it or not, "college education" has become another government dependent program, with thousands of "professors" making six figure salaries to teach 1-2 classes and indoctrinate future Democrat voters. Wanna know why college costs are so high?? Because the govt will hand out ridiculous sums of money in the form of school loans. Cap govt school loans at $25k a year, and see what happens. Professors will have to work. Colleges will cut TONS of bullschidt courses and degrees, and parents will stop allowing their kids to get $250k history and English degrees...

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Well. they supposedly are thinking about considering scholarships (and ?) as income and taxing them.
Shoulda heard the stupid degree kids complain about that one!

Yeah, you can't go for personal enrichment unless it's on your own nickle.

Want help with college finances? Then you are expected to graduate, be self sufficient, and pay what you owe.

What a concept!

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2 year technical degrees are no magic solution. I taught as adjunct professor for a 2 year associates program and it really comes down to what you put into your studies is what you'll get out of them. There also seemed to be plenty of Diversity/PC/Bullsheit in the college administration, fortunately I could just mostly ignore that crap as an adjunct. Due to government cutbacks and politics they decided to close the campus that is closest to most students in the state and limit the program to a campus that would require those students to move to a campus 3-4 hour drive away or go with online classes which IMHO most students will struggle with.

Whether one choose a useless field of study or is useless by not applying themselves in a useful field, the results are the same.

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first, as has been alluded to in some earlier posts, one must assume jobs of some kind, type or sort are available. given job availability, then what is the best course of study to acquire one of these available jobs? well, people get old, retire, die, become disabled, rich, or whatever and leave the workforce. a replacement employee is needed to fill the necessary gap. other new jobs could be created out of the emerging and changing technology. maybe some are very high paid indeed.

then we have the active job seekers, and employers trying to find the best fitting peg to plug the job opening hole. every one else not hired will have to keep searching. then, there's the option of entrepreneurship. working for one's self, and maybe doing all kinds of personal creative stuff to put food on the table. if one has well off parents, that takes some of the pressure off.

others revert to criminal behavior such as illegal drug dealing, prostitution, theft, etc. etc. those who fall through all the cracks might wind up on gov't welfare which we all pay for.


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The 2 year trades are suited for the folks that want to work. Not really for the 9-5 salary folks.

The trades like electrician/ plumbers/ hvac / welders / machanist.

Someone hustlin' to make money, can make it. It suits that type of person though. The one that wants to excel, instead of looking at the clock on the cubicle wall, waiting for 5pm. So why work hard?
A guy working trades is thinking, well one more job this evening or I can line up something for saturday.


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