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Visited an accuracy gunsmith today and they had these bullets on hand. My Lord those were some vicious looking bullets. Picked up some in 30 and 6.5 caliber for kicks.....was told they were extremely accurate and performed well thus far.
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The owner, Jason, is a friend of mine. I've shot and hunted with their 6.5, 7, .308, and .338 Bulldozers. They are very precise bullets, and I've had no difficulty getting them to shoot extremely well. In a couple of my rifles, they are spooky accurate. They use a Von Karman rather than secant ogive profile, so BCs are high for bullet weights. Last season, I hunted exclusively with them in my 6.5 Creed and 7-08. Killed 2 deer and a handful of pigs with them. Shots were all relatively close range - 75-150 yards - so nothing extreme. Critters died; they performed as expected.
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I bought some .277 127's and .308's in 180 and 196. I need to get motivated and get a load worked up before fall.
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If you are worried about lead in your meat, you also may want to worry about aluminum in your meat, since both are potent neurotoxins. I know that lead in its elemental form is not very bio-available, but I don't know about the form of aluminum used to tip the Bulldozers. Aluminum is generally more reactive than lead in the body.
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Which is why aluminum is never used for beverage cans or cooking utensils. Oh wait . . .
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Which is why aluminum is never used for beverage cans or cooking utensils. Oh wait . . . And lead is still used for potable water pipes. Gee, you so clever.
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Which is why aluminum is never used for beverage cans or cooking utensils. Oh wait . . . And lead is still used for potable water pipes. Gee, you so clever. Lead water pipes havent been sold for years.. And once elemental lead reacts with stomach acid it is bioavailable.
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This thread went from bulldozers to stomach acid in seven posts. I've seen it all now.
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Now you know why bullets are nicknamed "pills."
(I'm here all week, try the veal)
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Now you know why bullets are nicknamed "pills."
(I'm here all week, try the veal) One of Jack O’Connor’s pet peeves regarding word usage....he abhorred writers who substituted “pill” for bullet.
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If you are worried about lead in your meat, you also may want to worry about aluminum in your meat, since both are potent neurotoxins. I know that lead in its elemental form is not very bio-available, but I don't know about the form of aluminum used to tip the Bulldozers. Aluminum is generally more reactive than lead in the body. Did he say anything about lead?
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If you are worried about lead in your meat, you also may want to worry about aluminum in your meat, since both are potent neurotoxins. I know that lead in its elemental form is not very bio-available, but I don't know about the form of aluminum used to tip the Bulldozers. Aluminum is generally more reactive than lead in the body. Did he say anything about lead? The website that sells the bullets repeatedly mentions one of the benefits of their bullets is an absence of lead that can end up in the meat. The website doesn't mention that aluminum, which is used to tip their "hunting" bullets, is also a potent neurotoxin, and unlike lead, is far more harmful to adults with a developed nervous system, while lead is more harmful to children with a developing nervous system. Which is why aluminum is never used for beverage cans or cooking utensils. Oh wait . . . And lead is still used for potable water pipes. Gee, you so clever. Lead water pipes havent been sold for years.. And once elemental lead reacts with stomach acid it is bioavailable. Both of those statements are true. But water pipes are not replaced yearly, and I would say there are likely millions or tens of millions in America that do get their municipal water through lead pipes. There have never been any tests that I have seen that measure actual lead absorption in relation to lead consumption. A lot of fear-mongering though.
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If you are worried about lead in your meat, you also may want to worry about aluminum in your meat, since both are potent neurotoxins. I know that lead in its elemental form is not very bio-available, but I don't know about the form of aluminum used to tip the Bulldozers. Aluminum is generally more reactive than lead in the body. Did he say anything about lead? The website that sells the bullets repeatedly mentions one of the benefits of their bullets is an absence of lead that can end up in the meat. The website doesn't mention that aluminum, which is used to tip their "hunting" bullets, is also a potent neurotoxin, and unlike lead, is far more harmful to adults with a developed nervous system, while lead is more harmful to children with a developing nervous system. Which is why aluminum is never used for beverage cans or cooking utensils. Oh wait . . . And lead is still used for potable water pipes. Gee, you so clever. Lead water pipes havent been sold for years.. And once elemental lead reacts with stomach acid it is bioavailable. Both of those statements are true. But water pipes are not replaced yearly, and I would say there are likely millions or tens of millions in America that do get their municipal water through lead pipes. There have never been any tests that I have seen that measure actual lead absorption in relation to lead consumption. A lot of fear-mongering though. Water pipes build up a scale layer over time that effectively isolates the lead pipe from the water. As long as this layer isn't disturbed you dont have any problems with being exposed to lead. The reason you havent seen such tests are because brain and bone marrow biopsies are not very pleasant or advisable for research purposes.
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If you are worried about lead in your meat, you also may want to worry about aluminum in your meat, since both are potent neurotoxins. I know that lead in its elemental form is not very bio-available, but I don't know about the form of aluminum used to tip the Bulldozers. Aluminum is generally more reactive than lead in the body. Did he say anything about lead? The website that sells the bullets repeatedly mentions one of the benefits of their bullets is an absence of lead that can end up in the meat. The website doesn't mention that aluminum, which is used to tip their "hunting" bullets, is also a potent neurotoxin, and unlike lead, is far more harmful to adults with a developed nervous system, while lead is more harmful to children with a developing nervous system. Which is why aluminum is never used for beverage cans or cooking utensils. Oh wait . . . And lead is still used for potable water pipes. Gee, you so clever. Lead water pipes havent been sold for years.. And once elemental lead reacts with stomach acid it is bioavailable. Both of those statements are true. But water pipes are not replaced yearly, and I would say there are likely millions or tens of millions in America that do get their municipal water through lead pipes. There have never been any tests that I have seen that measure actual lead absorption in relation to lead consumption. A lot of fear-mongering though. Water pipes build up a scale layer over time that effectively isolates the lead pipe from the water. As long as this layer isn't disturbed you dont have any problems with being exposed to lead. The reason you havent seen such tests are because brain and bone marrow biopsies are not very pleasant or advisable for research purposes. I know the reasons why such tests aren't done. They are the same reasons why tests on aluminum poisoning aren't done. Yet both are powerful neurotoxins. And aluminum is used in lots of consumer products, yet lead is demonized all over the place. As I said, a lot of fearmongering, and based on NO DATA.
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Okay, he didn't say anything then. Thought my old lead-addled brain mighta missed something.
I've never worried about lead in my burger; stuff in commercially-processed food is a lot scarier to me. I did stop using aluminum cookware long, long ago after reading about a possible connection to aluminum and Old-timers' Disease. Never liked it anyway, and have little doubt that utensils scrape some into the soup, and acidic foods eat into it as well. Just like burger lead, the question remains: Does enough metal actually make it into one's system to cause trouble? I suspect farmworkers relieving themselves in irrigation water is a bigger threat to me overall. Fortunately, the lady that tends my garden comes inside to do her business.
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Om If you are worried about lead in your meat, you also may want to worry about aluminum in your meat, since both are potent neurotoxins. I know that lead in its elemental form is not very bio-available, but I don't know about the form of aluminum used to tip the Bulldozers. Aluminum is generally more reactive than lead in the body. Did he say anything about lead? The website that sells the bullets repeatedly mentions one of the benefits of their bullets is an absence of lead that can end up in the meat. The website doesn't mention that aluminum, which is used to tip their "hunting" bullets, is also a potent neurotoxin, and unlike lead, is far more harmful to adults with a developed nervous system, while lead is more harmful to children with a developing nervous system. Which is why aluminum is never used for beverage cans or cooking utensils. Oh wait . . . And lead is still used for potable water pipes. Gee, you so clever. Lead water pipes havent been sold for years.. And once elemental lead reacts with stomach acid it is bioavailable. Both of those statements are true. But water pipes are not replaced yearly, and I would say there are likely millions or tens of millions in America that do get their municipal water through lead pipes. There have never been any tests that I have seen that measure actual lead absorption in relation to lead consumption. A lot of fear-mongering though. Water pipes build up a scale layer over time that effectively isolates the lead pipe from the water. As long as this layer isn't disturbed you dont have any problems with being exposed to lead. The reason you havent seen such tests are because brain and bone marrow biopsies are not very pleasant or advisable for research purposes. I know the reasons why such tests aren't done. They are the same reasons why tests on aluminum poisoning aren't done. Yet both are powerful neurotoxins. And aluminum is used in lots of consumer products, yet lead is demonized all over the place. As I said, a lot of fearmongering, and based on NO DATA. Aluminum leaves the body very fast when ingested. Lead does not. That's the difference.
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