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If you carry a trekking pole, maybe switch to a black diamond whippet? I would think you could dig out a flat spot with one.

Specifically the "UL Alpine Whippet Adze Attachment" for the whippet

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The Petzl RIDE Ice Axe is the one I saw the 'Gritty' guys using, he was getting pretty rough with the little tool. Prying dinner plate size 4'' thick rock out of the hard clay ground.

I use a cane type walking stick that Brad recommended and really like it.

The Alpine Whippet looks good, especially @ 3.5oz.


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Originally Posted by Craigster
Find a better camp spot.
I've tried that a few times and failed - although it gave me experience in setting up camp in the dark ............


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Originally Posted by Craigster
Find a better camp spot.

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https://www.fiskars.com/en-us/garde...ls-and-machetes/brush-axe-19-378600-1005

I don't know the weight off the top of my head. Its not much. Some laugh when they see it. By the end they wan to borrow it for tasks.

I grind the back edge sharp like a true brush hook is.

Levels ground quickly used like a hoe to checker board an area. Can then scratch that stuff away level with a boot or the tool.

Its one tool I'm never without if I have a pack on my back and thats probably 2 months or more of each year as a guide.


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Originally Posted by bluffview
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Find a better camp spot.

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I hope the 2 of you get out more often to experience all that nature offers. If you can always find a flat spot you aren't seeing all there is out there to see.


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Not being rude...but have you considered one of the newer issue trifolds with the plastic handle. I believe it comes in around a lb and a half.


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Glock e-Tool is listed at 23oz.

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You're backpacking, and want to till up the wilderness?

I don't know the weather, your gear, the elevation, your location.

If a log at the foot of where your tent/bed is isn't possible, if a cot isn't possible, if a hammock isn't possible, if putting your BACKPACK at the foot of your bed isn't possible, if finding a flat spot big enough isn't possible, then by all means, dig. I suggest bringing a transit, a line level, and do what backpacking is all about, making a big impact on a pristine place...

Brian Call suggested this? Do share a link....

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Originally Posted by RobCollins
You're backpacking, and want to till up the wilderness?

I don't know the weather, your gear, the elevation, your location.

If a log at the foot of where your tent/bed is isn't possible, if a cot isn't possible, if a hammock isn't possible, if putting your BACKPACK at the foot of your bed isn't possible, if finding a flat spot big enough isn't possible, then by all means, dig. I suggest bringing a transit, a line level, and do what backpacking is all about, making a big impact on a pristine place...

Brian Call suggested this? Do share a link....



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Yeah what happened to “Leave No Trace”?
Some of these options are pretty entertaining to think of a person actually carrying to a wilderness area.

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I have one of these that would work but take a while because its so light and small. It is sharp and cuts small roots fine. A small silky along with one of these will works on small projects. Available w/o the pick also.

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Best earth light movers I ever saw was a couple of 12 year old Vietnamese girls with shovels.


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Originally Posted by prairie_goat
Yeah what happened to “Leave No Trace”?
Some of these options are pretty entertaining to think of a person actually carrying to a wilderness area.


To be fair it is always handy to have access to a shit shovel. Saves leaving a mess for others to step in.


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Originally Posted by rost495
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Originally Posted by Craigster
Find a better camp spot.

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I hope the 2 of you get out more often to experience all that nature offers. If you can always find a flat spot you aren't seeing all there is out there to see.

I was advocating to not start digging, grading, trenching, whatever a campsite.

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