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Maybe Trudeau in his bumbling is doing something right when Quebec is looking at separation again.

If Quebec leaves that would be a banner day for Canada Yes there would be a cost but the benefits to the rest of the country --- no more bilingualism, no more rape on transfer payments, no more laurentian elite

Personally I would not shed a tear. Pain would be worth the long term gain

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I was raised in FROG LAND/Queerbec.

When I moved out west to begin my big game-hunting adventures, they were holding another separation referendum vote the month I was leaving. So the last thing I did before leaving Frog Land was to vote in that referendum.

I voted to separate from Canada, to do my part to get them out of our country. Unfortunately, the majority voted to stay in the Federation. Even Frogs aren't dumb enough to detach themselves from the Western Teat!

I Prayed that day that they would vote to separate and that my vote assisted in that endeavor.

Unfortunately, Praying is a "Hit or Miss" proposition.

well if that happens Quebec it might be a way the western provinces can get out of Canada too ? maybe even be part of a America if Trump gets in ? then a truck load of pistols and revolvers will make it up there with ammo and legal too !

“ Personally I would not shed a tear. Pain would be worth the long term gain”

My thoughts exactly Hugh.

They’ll never leave, there is too much to gain by staying. They are already a separate country within Canada. Let’s vote in another prime minister from Quebec and see what more they can get.

Nick

I respect the history and culture of Quebec.

Canada outside of Quebec owes Quebec nothing, my family left Quebec 400 years ago, there is a Canada distinct from Quebec, but them as a people and especially their politico's can just go fugg off.

I can see Trudeau true intentions were to destroy the country from the first seeds he planted, I believe he is full blown evil.

The separatists have destroyed this country. Due to the fact that I am bilingual, I was temporarily assigned to work at the Montreal office. The supervisor there told me that only Quebec in North America had a culture, or as he put it “une culture”. I began asking him about the cultures of various other groups in Canada and the US, including Newfoundlanders, indigenous peoples, westerners, Americans and southerners in America. On all counts he dismissed them all as having no viable culture and only “les Quebecois” had any literature, cuisine, authors and artists, etc. worth noting. This is the result when one includes state propaganda into the education system. I’m sure not all held those beliefs but I found it disturbing that someone did in fact believe this. To me, it means that these individuals see themselves as superior to others. This mentality can lead, as history has shown, to serious consequences.

And yes, they weren’t crazy about having a “maudie anglais” at their office. I was glad when the assignment was over. There were some decent more open staff but not many. I never got a warm fuzzy feeling while working there. They put up with me, but just barely.

Nick

Hugh;
Top of the morning to you sir, I hope the day on the other side of the big hills has started out fine and you're all warm, well and dry.

Part of the pickle with Quebec as I see it from an outsider looking across the expanse at it is they're not being honest with themselves about what separation would entail.

When the last run at parting the sheets took place, the James Bay FN along with the Assembly of First Nations made it clear they were staying in Canada, oh and by the way they were going to take control over the hydro power generation there because it'd been installed without their consent.

Speaking of that hydro power, under current federal environmental regulations there's no way it'd be allowed, but it was built and its existence allows Quebec to have some of the green ideologies that they espouse.

But no, if they leave, it's going to be a strip of land a couple hundred miles north of the St. Lawrence that the French speakers get.

South of the St. Lawrence, the Mohawk have made some pretty broad claims on the land, so we'll see.

Thanks to Nick1899 for his insight as well, that was interesting but not surprising.

If we're going to allow and encourage tribalism, we shouldn't be all that surprised when that's exactly what we get.

All the best.

Dwayne

On the up side , if Quebec leaves. The drive from New Brunswick to Ontario will be shorter.

Dwayne - all is good over on our side of the Rockies. Starting to warm up and with this last snow fall melt grass will be greening up quickly. We still need more moisture. I have been hitting the dog training pretty hard everyday -- getting prepared for a 5 day advanced retriever course on Vancouver Island up by Campbell River in mid May.

On Quebec the flooding of the land on the northern hydro project was undertaken in a different time. Todays court's in my view would not rule in fabour of Qubec which would mean they would have to strike a formal partnership on revenue sharing with the first nations impacted. All part of the pain they would need to go through in separating --- and long over due in my opinion. A street can only run one way for so long before it ends.

On the current political front it is refreshing to see and hear Daniel Smith stand up to Ottawa and say that Alberta wants the same no strings deals that are cut for Quebec. The special favoritism for one province over all others is being publically called more than in recent memory. Unfortunately Alberta does not have the votes at a Federal level to make this a deal breaker for seat to keep a governing party in power.

At one time I had a leg on each side of the fence related to Quebec staying as part of Canada. My position changed long ago and I am firmly planted on the side of --- bye --- see ya!

Back when I was consulting I had a similar experience to Nick. My speciality back then was mechanical re failures on projects --- either operational or not following design documents. I was brought in from the west to a large high rise project in Quebec that the owner wanted reviewed during construction. I found numerous issues with inferior equipment and not following the design. I presented my findings to the construction team. They all sat, listened and then got up and conferenced in a group speaking in french (thinking that I only spoke English) at the far end of the room. After a long discussion session one person came over to me and said you need to undrstand that we do not do business the way you do here --- why don't you join our team. Clear implication --- bury what you have found and you will be rewarded. This method of operation continues in that province at all levels.

So I am still on the pain will be worth the gain. They have my vote to leave with no negotiation to stay.

Off for dog training now and will wait that video on the hybrid trucks when I get back.

All the best on your day

Speaking of Quebecers running Hydro Dams, let's not forget this.

In September of 1984, 10,000 caribou drowned while trying to cross the Caniapiscau River near Limestone Falls, Quebec. They perished because Hydro-Quebec opened the reservoir spill gates two hundred and seventy miles upstream. The resulting torrent of water swept the caribou over the falls.

They shouldn't be allowed to go anywhere near a Hydro Damn, much less run one.

Killer Bee—I was workin on a caribou research project here in NWO when that incident occurred. It was closer to 20,000 caribou that drowned.
There used to be many more French People here locally—originally from Quebec.
I have lived thru 2 previous referendums. Local attitude was indeed ‘Good Bye and Good Riddance’.

I believe that 100% about the "Local attitude" kkahmann.

René Lévesque ran most of Quebec's top-educated French talent out of Quebec when all of the major companies moved to Toronto because of his separatist movement

The best decision I made in my lifetime was to leave that Province. The last straw for me was when they established the Language Police Gestapo to eliminate English signs on storefronts.

I grew up in a French town in Laval, 5 English families, and thousands of French families, and that was during the FLQ Crisis. Had to fight my way out of many situations. Luckily for me, my father was a Golden Gloves Boxer, he taught me how to fight very young. It came in handy and I never lost a fight.

Unfortunately, you do not have a say where you are born, I was just smart enough to get out, and my only regret was not leaving Quebec as soon as I turned 18.