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Go buy a Swaro because I get the feeling it is after all what you want.
I think the good old oft mentioned Burris FF2 would work as would many others. I have a vx3 Boone and Crocket and love it and think it would be perfect. I never have had issues identifying spikes from ears with either scope anywhere near legal hunting times.
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^^^ There’s been a lot of travel down this rabbit hole, but (my opinion) I’d probably spend all that extra $ on some good binos that’d answer questions better at last light and work with any rifle/scope combo I was hunting with, before I’d lock a chunk of $/scope to a rig that’s got a practical hunting range limitation of under 200….where ANY, quality 1-4/5/6 or 2-7/3-9 is more than enough scope and light for legal hunting with that. It’s your rig and you can do what you like, but you seem to be wanting to put John Wayne on a burro to run the Kentucky Derby.
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I'd lean toward Trijicon Accupoint 3-9x40 if that's in your budget.
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I'd vote for a 1-4 or 1-6 trijicon, I really like mine on the 300 blk.
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I'd lean toward Trijicon Accupoint 3-9x40 if that's in your budget. I like mine. DF
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Scopes don't gather light. Mine do. My eye only opens up to about 5mm so I have my scope gather all the light from the 50mm objective and concentrate it down to a smaller, brighter exit pupil. OP needs a bigger objective to gather light for hunting. A Leupold VX5 2-10x42mm or 3-15X44mm make weight, have very good illumination options, and would do well for his application.
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Scopes don't gather light. Mine do. My eye only opens up to about 5mm so I have my scope gather all the light from the 50mm objective and concentrate it down to a smaller, brighter exit pupil. OP needs a bigger objective to gather light for hunting. A Leupold VX5 2-10x42mm or 3-15X44mm make weight, have very good illumination options, and would do well for his application. Scopes don’t gather light you retard. Stick to assembling GI AR parts and marking it up 400% .
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I have been looking at a bunch of different brands, but I haven't found the "perfect" thing yet. I had an old 1-6x LPVO on it when I was using it in an uber short HD rig. I put a Tract 1-8x on it at Thanksgiving and sold it at the new year. It was a great scope, but not exactly what I wanted. Deer in my area are mostly first and last light, I could not take a shot with this scope last time out as it was first light and it just couldn't gather enough light. And it was heavy (21+ oz.). I figure this is a 250 yard gun, 300 max on a lifetime deer if I had to.
- 2nd focal plane! no FFP on this one - would like it to be under 20 ounces, lighter the better - at least 2x, don't really need more than 12x - would like a BDC reticle, just make things easier vs. dialing. - I a dial, would prefer MOA vs. MIL as that is the camp I am in with others - illumination, can take it or leave it
Looked at: - Leupold vx3HD, 3.5-10x - Leupold Mark 4HD 2.5-10x (getting big/heavy, MIL vs. MOA) - new GPO CENTURI 3-12x44i Super Compact G4i (not out yet, no BDC, MIL adjustment. But I do like the < 10" length and weight) - new Steiner 4S 4-16x compact (love Steiner, not out yet either. Prob too much magnification probably for what I need) - Athlon Optics Talos 3-12x40 - BDC 250 Shotgun IR MOA (cheaper option, does have BDC, illumination. Concerned about quality/clarity and light gathering)
I appreciate other suggestions, thank you! https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...-vx6-2-12-firedot-lr-duplex#Post19396276Go get it, bro.
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2.5-8, maybe 2-10 max. Don't really need more than that for that rainbow shooter
All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
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I have an old weaver grand slam 3-10x40 on my kimber Adirondack 300 BO. I wasn't planning on dialing that rifle and didn't want a heavy scope on a sub 5 pound rifle.
I was digging through my box of old scopes and found that grand slam. It's been great on it. I wish they still made that model. It's a good set and forget. At one time I had several of them as I replaced most of my leupolds in the early 2000s. The only problem I ever had with any was because I think the erector spring would get weak after a few years on some.
The gen 2 grand slams were touted to have double springs and I still have several of those working well in the 2-12x42 or whatever they are. I just had the stupid FFII style power adjustment where the whole objective turns. If Low could redo that scope with a normal power ring I'd buy a bunch for my set and forgets. I tolerate the lame adjustment on the 5 or 6 I still have because they are great otherwise for a low price set and forget with parallax.
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There are a couple of used Razor LHs in the classifieds that will both hunt later than legal and have about 4-6x beyond what any blackout could utilize. Probably a great solution.;)
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^^^ There’s been a lot of travel down this rabbit hole, but (my opinion) I’d probably spend all that extra $ on some good binos that’d answer questions better at last light and work with any rifle/scope combo I was hunting with, before I’d lock a chunk of $/scope to a rig that’s got a practical hunting range limitation of under 200….where ANY, quality 1-4/5/6 or 2-7/3-9 is more than enough scope and light for legal hunting with that. It’s your rig and you can do what you like, but you seem to be wanting to put John Wayne on a burro to run the Kentucky Derby. Great minds!
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I'd lean toward Trijicon Accupoint 3-9x40 if that's in your budget. Thats what I went with too. Plain duplex. Not expecting to need much else.
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I have an old weaver grand slam 3-10x40 on my kimber Adirondack 300 BO. I wasn't planning on dialing that rifle and didn't want a heavy scope on a sub 5 pound rifle.
Bb That is what I have on my RAR in 300 Blk. It is a great size and plenty of magnification for 200 yards. I shoot the 110 Barnes at 2400 fps and that scope works very well out to 200 yards, although 200 is pushing the cartridges limit for me. Three does, from 75-163 yards have gone a total of about 50 yards after being shot. It is my go to woods rifle with low recoil, report and excellent accuracy.
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