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Hi all,
Just picked up a security 6, 4 inch barrel and it shoots great, but am wondering about a good set of springs to lighten hammer and trigger pull, or am i not gonna gain anything by changing them? Any info would be great.

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I had one I shot extensively in the 80’s. Brownells sold a spring kit. It and many double action cycles cycles helped. I liked that pistol a lot and shot it well. Gave it to a dear friend when I headed east after a spike elk chased him around a tree in bow season. His son still carries it.
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Top of the morning, I hope that your part of Wisconsin is getting a decent spring and you're well.

With the understanding that I made the modifications decades back and have used it as it is since.

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This came from a small gun shop in Oroville, WA, back in those halcyon pre 9/11 days when we were still able to buy firearms and components down there.

It was used but not much and came with the Bianchi holster. For the life of me I cannot recall what I paid for it, but I'd sold a very accurate Blackhawk and decided I might try some IPSC shooting at the local club level so this would do.

What I did to that one besides build the cosmetic stuff like build the grips, install the rib and build a different front sight was polish all the internals and yes, I believe I clipped at least one coil off of the mainspring. I might have also replaced another spring but might be wrong about that.

If I could get a spring kit, nowadays that's by far my preference just because I can always go back if something goes south with the modifications.

Is it as smooth as a S&W from that era?

No, not quite, but the polishing and the spring mod did smooth it out or at least my fingers thought so.

Hope that was useful to you or someone out there.

Good luck with your new project whichever way you decide.

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Wolff still offers springs for the SEC 6, as does TK custom.

Don't loose the original hammer spring as some Sec 6's won't tolerate a lighter hammer spring for double action firing, or will require the the exclusive use of the easiest to ignite Federal primers.

Good guns, but most of the original ones I've had needed trigger jobs in a big way.

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I bought a security six in the late 70s, somewhere in the move to AK it ran off.

Always wanted another DA Ruger, bought a GP100 a few years ago, polished hammer and trigger, shimmed same and lightened the springs.

Pretty impressive how much it changed the action, Rugers are pretty easy to work on.

I think I ordered parts from this outfit, seems like there was sone helpful info as well.

https://triggershims.com/ruger_double_action.php


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What is that difference between the security six and the GP100?

The GP 100 is a beast

The SP101 is a small like a K-frame

Where does the security six fit in there

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Originally Posted by BMT
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What is that difference between the security six and the GP100?

The GP 100 is a beast

The SP101 is a small like a K-frame

Where does the security six fit in there

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I've had a couple 4" GP100s along the way. For some stupid reason, I let them go. I do have a late model Security Six, it's a 4" HB (Heavy Barrel) model. The big differences I see is the GP100 has a different style grip frame, a heavier full length underlug, and an extra latch that secures the cylinder closed.

Other than that, the Security Six and the GP100 are very similar in overall size. The earlier Sec-Six had a slimmer barrel, and a slightly different grip frame shape.

My Security Six,

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Thank you for the explanation.


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The GP 100 fit perfectly in my N frame holster


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I had a few things incorrect, got frustrated & deleted it all. But yeah, the SP between the J&K Smith, the Sec 6 about same as K Smith, & the GP about the same as L frame Smith.

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FWIW, cylinder diameter on my Sec-Six is 1.50".

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Internet says the GP100 cylinder is 1.545" diameter.

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SW Model 19 1.45" cylinder diameter, per the internet.

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Ruger’s ‘Six ‘ revolvers are very strong, long lasting trouble free designs. I’ve worked on quite a few when I was in the business and almost without exception had few serious problems. Compared to the S&W K frames which is comparably sized they are heavier a bit clunkier but Ruger’s designers eliminated many of Smiths weak points insuring longevity.

One thing I’ve found with all three of the ‘Six’ guns is the more you cycle them them the slicker the DA gets. I have two, a Security and Service Six and the latter is very smooth with a 8# DA pull through. Bought as a Boston PD turn in I have no idea how many rounds it’s seen but I have added about 25k stiff 357 loads through it so its count total is up there.

As a retired gunsmith who worked almost always on revolvers and 1911 platforms and shot my share of competition I prefer the K & L frame S&W’s. I find they fit me better and point/balance better at 6” and despite what anybody says are more accurate as are the older Colts. The GP100 is a bit heavier and is clunkier in the balance department but a sidearm made to last. You can’t slick them up like a Smith and their lock-time is slower but if you feel the need to play the spring game go for it. The Security like the Service and Speed Six have a trigger with sharp edges that screams reshape me. Not fun for you trigger finger in DA mode. But you can stage the trigger on these guns which with practice and muscle memory can be an asset for some shooters. So if it were me I’d grab that Security Six, dry fire it a bunch, try to range rod the gun for any alignment issues cause the Ruger can be a PITA to correct and if all is well enjoy

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Back in the’70s, and into the ‘80s, some pistolsmiths were fitting Colt Python barrels to tuned Ruger D.A. revolvers, calling them “Cougers.”


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Originally Posted by Exchipy
Back in the’70s, and into the ‘80s, some pistolsmiths were fitting Colt Python barrels to tuned Ruger D.A. revolvers, calling them “Cougers.”

That conversion was done on K-frame S&W’s also. Those who owned them swore they were the most accurate. I ransom rested one back in the early 80’s against my 14-3 and I can’t argue. Close but the Colt barrel got the cookie

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The Ruger was a Cougar and the Smith was a Smolt.


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When Ruger brought out the GP, they must have bragged about being thicker. Smith made an add.

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Top of the morning, I hope that your part of Wisconsin is getting a decent spring and you're well.

With the understanding that I made the modifications decades back and have used it as it is since.

[Linked Image]

This came from a small gun shop in Oroville, WA, back in those halcyon pre 9/11 days when we were still able to buy firearms and components down there.

It was used but not much and came with the Bianchi holster. For the life of me I cannot recall what I paid for it, but I'd sold a very accurate Blackhawk and decided I might try some IPSC shooting at the local club level so this would do.

What I did to that one besides build the cosmetic stuff like build the grips, install the rib and build a different front sight was polish all the internals and yes, I believe I clipped at least one coil off of the mainspring. I might have also replaced another spring but might be wrong about that.

If I could get a spring kit, nowadays that's by far my preference just because I can always go back if something goes south with the modifications.

Is it as smooth as a S&W from that era?

No, not quite, but the polishing and the spring mod did smooth it out or at least my fingers thought so.

Hope that was useful to you or someone out there.

Good luck with your new project whichever way you decide.

Dwayne
OOOOOOOOOH that's nice. I have its sibling speed six. two .357 and one 9mm. Just need a .38 now. Great guns.


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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
Originally Posted by BMT
Question

What is that difference between the security six and the GP100?

The GP 100 is a beast

The SP101 is a small like a K-frame

Where does the security six fit in there

BMT

I've had a couple 4" GP100s along the way. For some stupid reason, I let them go. I do have a late model Security Six, it's a 4" HB (Heavy Barrel) model. The big differences I see is the GP100 has a different style grip frame, a heavier full length underlug, and an extra latch that secures the cylinder closed.

Other than that, the Security Six and the GP100 are very similar in overall size. The earlier Sec-Six had a slimmer barrel, and a slightly different grip frame shape.

My Security Six,

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

I was going to ask the same question and we got the answer awesome thank you guys

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