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I'm not sure that energy independence would even achieve anything. Islam is about expanding their religion and culture to all points of the globe. Period.


It would at least remove the funding from oil. Probably break a kingdom or two up, muslims also enjoy killing other muslims, with cries of snackbar it would seem. Film it all in HD and I'll watch it on liveleak.


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After listening to the scanner, I pity the media now. Confusion reigns.. Guessing it will take all night or even days for basic information to get straightened out.

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Obama is speaking, I feel so much better now.


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Originally Posted by JohnMoses
Maybe that's the answer for Europe, but America can produce much of her own and can get the rest from neighbors this hemisphere.

They have Europe's nuts in a vice, not ours.


Right now they have yours in the vice too..

if Saudi turned off the taps or otherwise convinced OPEC to hike the price, the global price for oil goes up, including the price of the stuff in North America..thats capitalism 101..

Also OPEC only has to quite trading oil in dollars and switch to trading in Euro's as Sadam threatened and it would do your economy a world of hurt..

At the moment, I assume they don't want to kill the cash cow, but as OPEC see's demand in the market from China grow, and America's influence wane, they will more inclined to turn the screws on the US..

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I'm not sure that energy independence would even achieve anything. Islam is about expanding their religion and culture to all points of the globe. Period.


Much easier to say GFY when the other person does not have his finger on the light switch..


Yes. I will heartily agree there. Just not sure it will totally fix our "Muslim" problem. It's already within our borders and reproducing like a virus waiting to reach critical mass.


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I am watching CBS live, as they say they can't speculate who did this they did mention it was tax day and both Waco and Oklahoma City were on April 18th. See the connection there? April.


Don't forget, my ex was born in april.

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Right up until that schit got taken away from them.

Pete, if you think this nation will sit by and see it's economy intentionally ruined by a foreign power, you've missed your guess pard.

We can get there (energy independence), but it will certainly take time.

I actually hope they do that, because it will produce a national effort like you haven't seen since WWII.

Socialist Europe can't do it and the Arabs know it. You're [bleep].

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Originally Posted by huntsman22
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I am watching CBS live, as they say they can't speculate who did this they did mention it was tax day and both Waco and Oklahoma City were on April 18th. See the connection there? April.


Don't forget, my ex was born in april.


Mine too.

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Originally Posted by JohnMoses

Pete, if you think this nation will sit by and see it's economy intentionally ruined by a foreign power, you've missed your guess pard.


Its already happened dating back to the 1970's..what you're try to do is recover from that position..

Originally Posted by JohnMoses
We can get there (energy independence), but it will certainly take time.


I hope so..


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Socialist Europe can't do it and the Arabs know it. You're [bleep].


The situation is worse for Europe and the UK as they are also heavily reliant on Russia and Eastern Europe for energy, which never struck me as a wise move..

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We have a WHOOOOOLE lot more oil in our country than most are aware of. There was an article, that was very lengthy, that got leaked, that talked of the hundreds of billions of barrels of oil in the Rocky Mountain region. Enough to sustain the US, at current consumption levels, for hundreds of years. Needless to say, this article got squashed quick.

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Originally Posted by Ironman65
We have a WHOOOOOLE lot more oil in our country than most are aware of. There was an article, that was very lengthy, that got leaked, that talked of the hundreds of billions of barrels of oil in the Rocky Mountain region. Enough to sustain the US, at current consumption levels, for hundreds of years. Needless to say, this article got squashed quick.

Yeah, but we won't be allowed to use it until the Chinese own it all.


















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Originally Posted by HugAJackass
Is this when Congress attempts to "save just one life" and enact a ball bearing registry legislation?

BAN TRASH CANS!

It's for the children...


Agreed...and ball bearings---and close the ball-bearing car show loophole (surely there must be one!). That, and no more internet sales of ball bearings and a national registry of trash can owners. Do our children deserve anything less? crazy


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Originally Posted by Ironman65
We have a WHOOOOOLE lot more oil in our country than most are aware of. There was an article, that was very lengthy, that got leaked, that talked of the hundreds of billions of barrels of oil in the Rocky Mountain region. Enough to sustain the US, at current consumption levels, for hundreds of years. Needless to say, this article got squashed quick.


The US undoubtedly has a lot of oil and gas reserves, but much of it is currently very costly to extract..And given that the US is largely a free market economy and there is an increasing demand for oil on the international market, you are still susceptible to prices being driven up by others..

Only way around that is to either nationalize the industry and put it under Government control (very unlikely) or develop unrelated power sources such as nuclear..

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We have a WHOOOOOLE lot more oil in our country than most are aware of. There was an article, that was very lengthy, that got leaked, that talked of the hundreds of billions of barrels of oil in the Rocky Mountain region. Enough to sustain the US, at current consumption levels, for hundreds of years. Needless to say, this article got squashed quick.

Yeah, but we won't be allowed to use it until the Chinese own it all.


That is a scary, real possibility.

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Is this when Congress attempts to "save just one life" and enact a ball bearing registry legislation?

BAN TRASH CANS!

It's for the children...


Agreed...and ball bearings---and close the ball-bearing car show loophole (surely there must be one!). That, and no more internet sales of ball bearings and a national registry of trash can owners. Do our children deserve anything less? crazy


You guys are missing the gun control angle. Claims of gun powder used for the bomb. Bend over handloaders








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CNN Wolf Blitzer blames the explosion on an anti-tax group and NYT Nicholas Kristof Blames GOP for Boston Blast - "explosion is a reminder that ATF needs a director.

I'm waiting for some DC SOB or MSM reporter to exclaim how an armed citizen can't stop these things, so we need to ban guns. They are useless.


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we must begin negotiations, but with whom??

Negotions my ass. When we find out the perpetrator, they need to have a bomb put up their ass. Barry will put them in a federal country club.


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Originally Posted by oulufinn

Bet on gunpowder, too. It will make a perfect case against handloaders. Ammo is where it's at for real control.


I hope you are wrong but its just the sort of thing the Anti's are likely to use justify controls on powder sales..

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Petre,

I hope the oil sheiks start to trade in Euros. Soon the Euro will be cheap toilet paper. laugh


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FOX reporting the WH,in spite of Obama's failure to say so,is stating it is believed the bombings were an act of terrorism.


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