Not trying to be an alarmist, but I wounder how many here are prepared to shelter in place or "self quarantine" if it came to it to protect their family? I'm talking food, water, medicine and possibly protective gear ample enough to survive without outside contact for what, a month, maybe more? Guns and ammo are great, but they won't help you against a virus.
dont think SF is set up to run his place off wood.....electricity goes out and you wont notice other than not being able to get on the internet at Scott's place
It might be an uncomfortable quarantine, but we've just updated our 72 hour kits and we keep frozen and canned food on hand. With a little help from our friends, we'd probably get by.
It's going to be interesting to see how this unfolds. Of the 16 doctors from Doctors Without Borders treating Ebola, 9 have contracted the disease. They probably didn't have proper equipment part of the time, but they are skilled in proper procedures. That's not encouraging. If one person gets it, their whole family will be at risk.
Still, I think we will do a pretty good job of containing it, and we won't have a major epidemic in the US.
Anyone NOT prepared for extended periods is a fool, regardless of Ebola
Well said, and judging from this thread plenty of them here...
no point for me, without easy access to modern medicine im phugged....im setup to weather a bad winter storm or two but no point for me to have a hell of alot stored.....im on a medication thats pointless for me to stockpile cause its half life is pretty damn short when not kept in perfect refrigerated conditions and even then its not long enough that i can afford to stockpile it as i cant rotate through it fast enough....i keep an extra months worth on hand but thats about it....
I don't consider myself a prepper in one sense of the word, but I do believe in being prepared.
have my hidey hole to run to, whether it be out of control Ebola, some variation of a flu pandmeic (we're due btw for one of those)
and have the stuff I need to get by there for quite sometime.
most things considered, I'm better off at home and pretty well prepared there to weather the storm (earthquake is another matter) right there.
but for contagious diseases, or societal breakdown, where other folks are trying to get what you stocked up on
well I've got the hidey hole and the means to not only defend said hidey hole but have plenty of advance warning that someone's coming. IF they ever even discover there's folks down that holler.
Not trying to be an alarmist, but I wounder how many here are prepared to shelter in place or "self quarantine" if it came to it to protect their family? I'm talking food, water, medicine and possibly protective gear ample enough to survive without outside contact for what, a month, maybe more? Guns and ammo are great, but they won't help you against a virus.
Just a thought.
Do you have enough tin foil for all the hats in your house?
Not trying to be an alarmist, but I wounder how many here are prepared to shelter in place or "self quarantine" if it came to it to protect their family? I'm talking food, water, medicine and possibly protective gear ample enough to survive without outside contact for what, a month, maybe more? Guns and ammo are great, but they won't help you against a virus.
Just a thought.
I always maintain the ability to do that for a few months, if need be. Standard practice.
Not as prepared as we want to be, but probably much better-off than 90% of the general population. Location is critical, and so is food, water,lots of bleach( 50# of powdered calcium chloride makes a lot of bleach) and medical stores! memtb
I'm in a fairly urban setting....1.5 million legal residents and 1-2 million illegal residents. Gonna be pretty hard to do much from where,I sit surrounded by 3- 3.5 million other fuggers trying to make it. Our best bet is to break for the west if we have enough heads up, otherwise we'll do what we can and even consider Shrapnels view!
I jus got a box of Omaha steaks, should be good for a week or so. I think the pack of dogs was the best idea so far; wonder if they'll all taste the same. I hear black dog is best. Any labs in the pack?
Not trying to be an alarmist, but I wounder how many here are prepared to shelter in place or "self quarantine" if it came to it to protect their family? I'm talking food, water, medicine and possibly protective gear ample enough to survive without outside contact for what, a month, maybe more? Guns and ammo are great, but they won't help you against a virus.
Just a thought.
Do you have enough tin foil for all the hats in your house?
do folks that buy fire insurance for their house, year after year after year need tin foil hats too?
everyone has a different degree of risk assessment and probabilities I reckon.
but I like more than one type insurance.
I actually prefer the kind that doesn't have an annual premium. but apparently the mileage varies.
Not as prepared as we want to be, but probably much better-off than 90% of the general population. Location is critical, and so is food, water,lots of bleach( 50# of powdered calcium chloride makes a lot of bleach) and medical stores! memtb
I believe that is Calcium hypochlorite that makes bleach.
With the current events a person would be foolish to not be prepared! Wasn't long ago the preppers would have been accused of having their tin-foil hat too tight. Now it seems prudent to prepare for the worst.
Not trying to be an alarmist, but I wounder how many here are prepared to shelter in place or "self quarantine" if it came to it to protect their family? I'm talking food, water, medicine and possibly protective gear ample enough to survive without outside contact for what, a month, maybe more? Guns and ammo are great, but they won't help you against a virus.
Not trying to be an alarmist, but I wounder how many here are prepared to shelter in place or "self quarantine" if it came to it to protect their family? I'm talking food, water, medicine and possibly protective gear ample enough to survive without outside contact for what, a month, maybe more? Guns and ammo are great, but they won't help you against a virus.
Just a thought.
the wife is the only one with daily meds, so I guess the kids and I will have to eat her first, I may have to find a different place to start than what I am used to.
I've been squirreling away stuff for over 10 years now, and we're a little closer to self sufficiency in a time of need, but it would still be tough. I try to buy an item we need out of each check. Sometimes it might be a can of food, or a box of ammunition, sometimes meds, or something else. I would say where I'm lacking is I really don't feel like I've got a very good bugout plan. I feel like it's easy to say, we'll all meet at spot XYZ in North Dakota, but all it takes is one bridge knocked out somewhere, one roadblock and you're plans are useless. My son moved to Indiana, so he's on his own now, cuz there's no way I'd go towards Chicago if something happened. Lots to think about, and hard to work it on a very limited budget. We'll keep putting stuff away as we can and hope for the best. We've probably got enough water, food, and survival necessities to hold out for at least a month. We just keep working on it and putting aside cash and precious metals just in case.
Just bought a little ~1 amp cell phone/tablet solar panel (rating is 7 watts). In times of trouble, a cell phone may actually be more reliable than the old landline. A little better, and a buck cheaper than mine.
Nope......most if not all of you seem a bit quick and dim witted
If.....when it gets bad money, gold or anything valuable will have ZERO value
Guns and ammo will be like gold......cary on
You sir are the dimwitted one! Gold, silver etc... will eventually return to it's place of value as a currency, albeit for a short time until the manipulators take over again. Food, clean water etc.. will all be valuable commodities but currency will be P.M's Come around me with your gun trying to take whats mine and you will learn a harsh lesson. If SHTF you will be an early casualty.
Not trying to be an alarmist, but I wounder how many here are prepared to shelter in place or "self quarantine" if it came to it to protect their family? I'm talking food, water, medicine and possibly protective gear ample enough to survive without outside contact for what, a month, maybe more? Guns and ammo are great, but they won't help you against a virus.
Just a thought.
Do you have enough tin foil for all the hats in your house?
I am very much amused by those that have eschewed any sort of preps. Tin foil hats indeed! Oh, and lets just belittle and beat up on anyone that does something a little extra to protect their family.
I am very much amused by those that have eschewed any sort of preps. Tin foil hats indeed! Oh, and lets just belittle and beat up on anyone that does something a little extra to protect their family.
I am very much amused by those that have eschewed any sort of preps. Tin foil hats indeed! Oh, and lets just belittle and beat up on anyone that does something a little extra to protect their family.
Those are likely the ones with the biggest hordes squirreled away.
I am very much amused by those that have eschewed any sort of preps. Tin foil hats indeed! Oh, and lets just belittle and beat up on anyone that does something a little extra to protect their family.
Those are likely the ones with the biggest hordes squirreled away.
I'm not an expert by any means - and to be honest, after reading some of the books I've read, the people that wrote them aren't experts either
but between bugging out or staying put - unless I can't stay home due to chemical or disaster or whatever, then I am staying put.
Any epidemic or disaster that turns people against each other to the point you need a gun, unless you're planning to go underground and not see light of day, or you've decided to take what you can to some remote spot and eat berries - its going to require you form a community of like minded folks - otherwise you'll have a few weeks of living off your beanie weenies before a hoard shows up at your place to take whatever they can.
IMO, it won't end well no matter how well armed you are.
so in an urban or suburban setting, planning for more than 3 weeks is pretty futile. After that, its Mad Max.
KWFA, couldn't agree more, the little I've read about folks that have actually survived that sort of scenario, well it just doesn't look good for the lone warrior surrounded by hostiles.
having a hidey hole that is one of our favorite places to recreate is just a bonus.
Sunday night folks up and down the river will get together for our annual meet and greet.
Wouldn't be any day at the beach, but I think we could live there for 6 mos. to a year and do just fine, barring serious physical injury or disease.
have always heard the best way to survive a gunfight is to not get in one.
if the natives get restless I plan to be hard to find.
keep those EBT cards coming and the stores open massah Obama, we's counting on you
I have already formed a core group of friends with useful skills. Our idea is not to fend off invaders but to welcome those who can aid the group and contribute their skills/knowledge to the survival of the group - while weeding out the obvious slackers or worse.
We have a safe location picked out, it's at the junction of several roads so anyone traveling on those roads will be led to us.
We even have signs ready to post directing people: "Sanctuary for All. Community for All. Those who arrive, survive."
Y'all come on down!
(but if you bring a black chick with a sword or a kid in a state troopers hat, we're gonna shoot you on sight...)
I have already formed a core group of friends with useful skills. Our idea is not to fend off invaders but to welcome those who can aid the group and contribute their skills/knowledge to the survival of the group - while weeding out the obvious slackers or worse.
We have a safe location picked out, it's at the junction of several roads so anyone traveling on those roads will be led to us.
We even have signs ready to post directing people: "Sanctuary for All. Community for All. Those who arrive, survive."
Y'all come on down!
(but if you bring a black chick with a sword or a kid in a state troopers hat, we're gonna shoot you on sight...)
KWFA, couldn't agree more, the little I've read about folks that have actually survived that sort of scenario, well it just doesn't look good for the lone warrior surrounded by hostiles.
having a hidey hole that is one of our favorite places to recreate is just a bonus.
Sunday night folks up and down the river will get together for our annual meet and greet.
Wouldn't be any day at the beach, but I think we could live there for 6 mos. to a year and do just fine, barring serious physical injury or disease.
have always heard the best way to survive a gunfight is to not get in one.
if the natives get restless I plan to be hard to find.
keep those EBT cards coming and the stores open massah Obama, we's counting on you
part of what drives my logic to stay put is I have more [bleep] than I can throw into the back of a truck or camper - and I honestly can't imagine where I would go where I would truly be away from people in a case of mass evacuation on 1 or 2 tanks of gas.
plus, I have a Ford so how far would I get anyways? (I keed, I keed)
now if I lived out west I'd probably put more thought into getting away from people.
I have already formed a core group of friends with useful skills. Our idea is not to fend off invaders but to welcome those who can aid the group and contribute their skills/knowledge to the survival of the group - while weeding out the obvious slackers or worse.
We have a safe location picked out, it's at the junction of several roads so anyone traveling on those roads will be led to us.
We even have signs ready to post directing people: "Sanctuary for All. Community for All. Those who arrive, survive."
Y'all come on down!
(but if you bring a black chick with a sword or a kid in a state troopers hat, we're gonna shoot you on sight...)
definitely shoot the kid. He shouldn't have made it this long
dont think SF is set up to run his place off wood.....electricity goes out and you wont notice other than not being able to get on the internet at Scott's place
dont need electricity to crap in a pickle bucket. Hell, I've always said that.
Not as prepared as we want to be, but probably much better-off than 90% of the general population. Location is critical, and so is food, water,lots of bleach( 50# of powdered calcium chloride makes a lot of bleach) and medical stores! memtb
I believe that is Calcium hypochlorite that makes bleach.
just get bucket of HTH pool chemical from Sams. That'll work.
KWFA, couldn't agree more, the little I've read about folks that have actually survived that sort of scenario, well it just doesn't look good for the lone warrior surrounded by hostiles.
having a hidey hole that is one of our favorite places to recreate is just a bonus.
Sunday night folks up and down the river will get together for our annual meet and greet.
Wouldn't be any day at the beach, but I think we could live there for 6 mos. to a year and do just fine, barring serious physical injury or disease.
have always heard the best way to survive a gunfight is to not get in one.
if the natives get restless I plan to be hard to find.
keep those EBT cards coming and the stores open massah Obama, we's counting on you
part of what drives my logic to stay put is I have more [bleep] than I can throw into the back of a truck or camper - and I honestly can't imagine where I would go where I would truly be away from people in a case of mass evacuation on 1 or 2 tanks of gas.
plus, I have a Ford so how far would I get anyways? (I keed, I keed)
now if I lived out west I'd probably put more thought into getting away from people.
That's what you get for buying the Coopers. Next time get the Michelins.
dont think SF is set up to run his place off wood.....electricity goes out and you wont notice other than not being able to get on the internet at Scott's place
dont need electricity to crap in a pickle bucket. Hell, I've always said that.
KWFA, couldn't agree more, the little I've read about folks that have actually survived that sort of scenario, well it just doesn't look good for the lone warrior surrounded by hostiles.
having a hidey hole that is one of our favorite places to recreate is just a bonus.
Sunday night folks up and down the river will get together for our annual meet and greet.
Wouldn't be any day at the beach, but I think we could live there for 6 mos. to a year and do just fine, barring serious physical injury or disease.
have always heard the best way to survive a gunfight is to not get in one.
if the natives get restless I plan to be hard to find.
keep those EBT cards coming and the stores open massah Obama, we's counting on you
part of what drives my logic to stay put is I have more [bleep] than I can throw into the back of a truck or camper - and I honestly can't imagine where I would go where I would truly be away from people in a case of mass evacuation on 1 or 2 tanks of gas.
plus, I have a Ford so how far would I get anyways? (I keed, I keed)
now if I lived out west I'd probably put more thought into getting away from people.
That's what you get for buying the Coopers. Next time get the Michelins.
How many are still shaking hands when greeting someone, not taking advantage of the wipes when grabbing a shopping cart at the store, eat off the local carts and lunch wagons, and all the other little things that might spread something like this?
Joking aside, communities banding together is the way to survive.
The only thing close to a disaster I personally know of is one of those three big hurricanes that ran through S. Florida in the early part of this century. After one of them my mother's neighborhood in Ft. Lauderdale was without power for three weeks. Trees down everywhere, no gasoline for sale for that whole three weeks (no power so the cash registers wouldn't work!), people pretty much survived with what they had on hand. FEMA did come along and set up an ice and food distribution station about 6 blocks away.
Folks in the neighborhood worked for each other, not against each other. One guy with a pickup would carry several folks over so they all could get bags of ice and rations if needed, that saved gas. Then the next day someone else would use their vehicle to carry a bunch of folks. Or the kids would get their little wagons and all walk over to the FEMA trailer to get supplies. People helped pick up trash and downed trees from everyone's yards. When some a-hole came bombing through there too fast he was met with a crowd of folks telling him to go elsewhere.
We've seen that after tornadoes and natural disasters all over the country - it tends to bring people together instead of everyone running around shooting up everyone else and hording their supplies or stealing from others.
Yes, I know that didn't necessarily apply in one recent hurricane/flooding situation, but as far as I can see the above does apply in neighborhoods of a "lighter" persuasion.
Joking aside, communities banding together is the way to survive.
The only thing close to a disaster I personally know of is one of those three big hurricanes that ran through S. Florida in the early part of this century. After one of them my mother's neighborhood in Ft. Lauderdale was without power for three weeks. Trees down everywhere, no gasoline for sale for that whole three weeks (no power so the cash registers wouldn't work!), people pretty much survived with what they had on hand. FEMA did come along and set up an ice and food distribution station about 6 blocks away.
Folks in the neighborhood worked for each other, not against each other. One guy with a pickup would carry several folks over so they all could get bags of ice and rations if needed, that saved gas. Then the next day someone else would use their vehicle to carry a bunch of folks. Or the kids would get their little wagons and all walk over to the FEMA trailer to get supplies. People helped pick up trash and downed trees from everyone's yards. When some a-hole came bombing through there too fast he was met with a crowd of folks telling him to go elsewhere.
We've seen that after tornadoes and natural disasters all over the country - it tends to bring people together instead of everyone running around shooting up everyone else and hording their supplies or stealing from others.
Yes, I know that didn't necessarily apply in one recent hurricane/flooding situation, but as far as I can see the above does apply in neighborhoods of a "lighter" persuasion.
We saw a very similar situation during the Monument Fire, some years back,....folks teamed up and "Got er' done'. Livestock was evacuated, or gathered into safe areas, potential looters were confronted and run off by squared away and well prepared residents, firebreaks were cleared by volunteered equipment, and spot fires were put out without waiting for permission from INCREDIBLY screwed up "Fire management"
Crap the Feds were in the way, or screwing something up most of the time, up to and including STARTING more fires.
Joking aside, communities banding together is the way to survive.
The only thing close to a disaster I personally know of is one of those three big hurricanes that ran through S. Florida in the early part of this century. After one of them my mother's neighborhood in Ft. Lauderdale was without power for three weeks. Trees down everywhere, no gasoline for sale for that whole three weeks (no power so the cash registers wouldn't work!), people pretty much survived with what they had on hand. FEMA did come along and set up an ice and food distribution station about 6 blocks away.
Folks in the neighborhood worked for each other, not against each other. One guy with a pickup would carry several folks over so they all could get bags of ice and rations if needed, that saved gas. Then the next day someone else would use their vehicle to carry a bunch of folks. Or the kids would get their little wagons and all walk over to the FEMA trailer to get supplies. People helped pick up trash and downed trees from everyone's yards. When some a-hole came bombing through there too fast he was met with a crowd of folks telling him to go elsewhere.
We've seen that after tornadoes and natural disasters all over the country - it tends to bring people together instead of everyone running around shooting up everyone else and hording their supplies or stealing from others.
Yes, I know that didn't necessarily apply in one recent hurricane/flooding situation, but as far as I can see the above does apply in neighborhoods of a "lighter" persuasion.
A good and interesting fictional book to read concerning your idea.
I read that a couple of years ago when it came out, it is a good book. I liked the plan for sharing community foodstuffs; if you wanted to participate you had to open your home and grounds for inspection to prevent hoarding. If you wanted to hoard your own stuff, fine, you just couldn't share in the community goods.
For those who are prepared to last a month or two what do you do then? All you will be doing is putting off the end by so many days if it gets that bad. Plenty of ammo and guns gets what you want from those that don't have the ammo.
For those who are prepared to last a month or two what do you do then? All you will be doing is putting off the end by so many days if it gets that bad. Plenty of ammo and guns gets what you want from those that don't have the ammo.
because im set up to ride out a 100 or 500 year blizzard that cuts us off for awhile....hasnt happened yet here but has to some surrounding communities....like i said no point and being prepped for long term SHTF cause i wont survive it anyway without modern medicine....
slumlord, There are several different types(formulas) of pool treatments available, and some can be far more harmful than beneficial. So, make sure of the treatment!! memtb
If anyone is interested, there is a website (Survivalblog, by James Wesley Rawles)which has more info than you could absorb in months of reading. Most of the info is contributed by like-minded people, outdoors types(hunting, trapping, hide tanning,ect.), doctors, vetinarians,dentists, military personel(many using proven techniques used for centuries in 3rd. world nations),gardening, food storage, only to name a few. All articles are archived back about 10 or 12 years, and grouped in alphabetical order. It doesn't promote weapons use(unless needed,)but "Family, "Friends",and "Christianty".To many being prepared,is over the top but to others it's merely common sense logic. Check it out, I don't think you will be disappointed. memtb
Along that line I found the Crisis Preparedness handbook to contain some fairly useful and practical advice. Some will nitpick the parts on firearms but looneys would do that with anything firearm related.
The basic advice is: Learn the skills you need before you need them Gather the stuff you need before you need it
If you wait until the actual disaster to start gathering skills or supplies, you're screwed.