I have a rem 700 25-06. I was after loads to approximate 257 loads so as to preserve the barrel while practicing or for young shooters. Loads of 4064 with both the 100 hornady and 120 speer were less than one inch and right at 2900 for the 100 and 2775 for the 120. I am going from memory but I believe it was 40 gr for the 100 and one or two gr less for the 120. They were mild in my gun but start below and work up.