Buffalo Bore 9mm 147 grain +P hard cast flat point Outdoorsman round fired out of a Sig P365 at an array of water jugs and blue jean covered pork ribs. The jeans material consisted of cut off pants legs, not IWBA spec material. The round averages 1010 fps out of the test gun. This is the lowest velocity I have gotten out of 4 guns from which I have fired the round, so this probably is the worst performance you can expect out of the round. The round bounced back off the rib taped behind jug 3 and was recovered on the table between jug 3 and the rib/blue jeans pack. (Although I referred multiple times to jug 4, I actually was referring to jug 3.)
To recap, the round shattered front ribs, penetrated 18 inches of water, 6 layers of blue jean material, 6 sheets of plastic water jug material, and miscellaneous duct tape and rib packaging plastic.
In a plain water jug test, this round was recovered in jug 6. I got one more jug of penetration out of the Lehigh Xtreme Penetrator, so I am looking forward to loading up some more of those and trying this again.
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I shot a full magazine of 10 BB for chronographing purposes and about another 5 doing these tests. I also put other BB rounds in the magazine below the test shot in order to check feeding. The gun has not malfunctioned with any ammo through about 2100 rounds with the exception of one 124 Gold Dot , the last round in the magazine, fired weak hand the first day I had the gun.
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That's a great little hole-poker from a very packable little pistol.
Not the same caliber, but I had a short SP-101 and some Alaska Backpacker 200 grain LBT 357 loads. They chrono'ed 970 fps from the 2 ¼” SP101 I was carrying them in. The load's velocity didn't impress me much- until I started shooting things with it. It easily bored through a 3 inch seasoned oak limb, digging an inch groove in the trunk behind. It shot through an old mower deck, that .45 hardball only dented.
These heavy hardcast 9mm loads are not to be sneezed at.
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I shot a full magazine of 10 BB for chronographing purposes and about another 5 doing these tests. I also put other BB rounds in the magazine below the test shot in order to check feeding. The gun has not malfunctioned with any ammo through about 2100 rounds with the exception of one 124 Gold Dot , the last round in the magazine, fired weak hand the first day I had the gun.
I work with a guy in Sportsman's Warehouse in Cheyenne Wyoming. He and his dad have 3 P365's. One of them is their use and abuse model and it has literally been thoroughly abused. About 5k rounds through it with no cleaning so far and no malfunctions! He has fed it pretty much everything we have in the store.
Sounds like a stout load. BB makes some good stuff, no doubt. I still remember the first time I tried BB 200gr 10mm in a G29-A wrist snapper, that was.
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Thank you for this test...and I now understand why most of the bullets that Phil shot into his bear did not exit... It looks like in real bear flesh the bullets make it between 20-24".
I have done a lot of water penetration testing but have not bothered much with FMJ or HC solids as they take a lot of jugs to stop them. The only two close were in .41 Magnum.
One was the Remington 210 SP at 1250 fps...it ran five jugs and had enough force left to burry itself in the body armor insert wrapped around jug six with enough force to split the jug open.
The other was a 215 grain HC .41 with a .37 meplat that buried itself into the vest cutting a nice round hole as it went...
Thank you again...Bob
ps...thinking about it I did one run other test with a .41 using the Speer 200 grain JSWC-Hp....went through 6 jugs of water, one piece of 3/4" concrete form plywood and buried itself into the next piece of pylwood. The nose had melted off and all that was left was a little jacketed ashcan...
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RJM, I appreciate your insight concerning Phil's bear deal. On a frontal shot at an incoming critter, all of the good stuff should be found within 20-24 inches, and the lungs sure aren't going to offer the same level of resistance as water.
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Although four of the seven rounds fired were recovered I have never read any description of the depth of penetration of each recovered bullets nor if any of the other three completely penetrated or just could not be found...
The two pictures of one of the recovered bullets looks like the round hit the bear about the area of the kidneys perfectly square. There is a knife sitting next to the wound tract that looks like it has a bout a 5" blade. If the knife is between 10-12" in length the wound track looks to be about 16-18"with no bones struck...the nose of the bullet is sticking out of the muscle at the end of the wound track.
If you have a 9mm this is probably one of the best penetrating rounds going....
Bob
ps...in looking at the picture again the bear may still be on his back in which case the round would have with going through its lower chest or lower abandon...
Last edited by RJM; 04/10/19.
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