I have had good performance with the 160 gr 6.5mm out of a 6.5x54 Mannlicher Schoenauer. On deer sized game they work very well. And the 220 gr works very well in a 30-40 Krag. They aren't flashy but they take game just fine as long as you use them within their limitations. They aren't designed to be pushed fast and they drop like a rock at longer distance but at 100-150 yards they are effective.


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