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Originally Posted by Daveinjax
The absurdity of many here’s opinions about Russia is disheartening. If any group should know better than believe the narrative it’s this one. The Russians are absolutely crushing the Ukrainians , Putin would easily win an honest election in Russia with a huge majority , and the Russian elite are unified in their support of keeping NATO off Russia’s borders. What to look for next is a false flag chemical weapons attack blamed on the Russians. That’s the red line NATO has laid down so that’s what is coming. All those here who want war I believe you’ll get it. I pray cooler heads prevail and we stay out of this war we started.


I suppose the Russians are doing the SLOOOW version of "absolutely crushing" the Ukrainians. The awesome Russian Military machine was supposed to have "crushed" Ukraine in about 48 hours. It has been what? 3 weeks now and they do not have full control of even one major city. I live 49 miles from the southwest Ukrainian border. I guess they'll be here soon. RJ

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Originally Posted by Daveinjax
All those here who want war I believe you’ll get it. I pray cooler heads prevail and we stay out of this war we started.


Idiots that want to go to war with a nuclear super power must think their lifestyle is going to be insulated from the ravages of such war. Needless to say they will be in for a rude awakening.



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Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by Angus1895
Russian rouble edges higher as market eyes coupon payments


Looks like they are going to pay in roubles.

A de facto default ?


If so there will be a 30 day hiatus invoked to allow them more time to find the usd$ denominations necessary to cover the payments. After that, default.

I doubt that you, me, anyone else here wants Rubles for usd$ but with the Putinites we have among us you just never know.

Hey, you Putinites can enter the bond market right now and get a hell of a discount buying those coming due bonds at only 10-20% of their value. Go for it and help Ole buddy Putin out a little.



As well as these great Russian investment opportunities, all of the Putin ass suckers should get their filthy carcasses on a transport and go to Russia to live with the man you love so much. RJ

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Nuclear ……..yes

Super?

Power?


I dunno


Guess we better watch more “ crushing.”

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Originally Posted by rj308
Originally Posted by Daveinjax
The absurdity of many here’s opinions about Russia is disheartening. If any group should know better than believe the narrative it’s this one. The Russians are absolutely crushing the Ukrainians , Putin would easily win an honest election in Russia with a huge majority , and the Russian elite are unified in their support of keeping NATO off Russia’s borders. What to look for next is a false flag chemical weapons attack blamed on the Russians. That’s the red line NATO has laid down so that’s what is coming. All those here who want war I believe you’ll get it. I pray cooler heads prevail and we stay out of this war we started.


I suppose the Russians are doing the SLOOOW version of "absolutely crushing" the Ukrainians. The awesome Russian Military machine was supposed to have "crushed" Ukraine in about 48 hours. It has been what? 3 weeks now and they do not have full control of even one major city. I live 49 miles from the southwest Ukrainian border. I guess they'll be here soon. RJ



If was really a takeover I'd be concerned, this is cleaning house! A lot of misinformation, media blackout and speculation!


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How's that NAZI thing working out in Ukraine?

I'll send you box of ammo to go cross the border fight for the billionaire Zelensky and the ghost of Kiev and the air soft Ukrainian model killing Russian soldiers with her air soft rifle



Originally Posted by rj308
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by Angus1895
Russian rouble edges higher as market eyes coupon payments


Looks like they are going to pay in roubles.

A de facto default ?


If so there will be a 30 day hiatus invoked to allow them more time to find the usd$ denominations necessary to cover the payments. After that, default.

I doubt that you, me, anyone else here wants Rubles for usd$ but with the Putinites we have among us you just never know.

Hey, you Putinites can enter the bond market right now and get a hell of a discount buying those coming due bonds at only 10-20% of their value. Go for it and help Ole buddy Putin out a little.



As well as these great Russian investment opportunities, all of the Putin ass suckers should get their filthy carcasses on a transport and go to Russia to live with the man you love so much. RJ


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Originally Posted by Daveinjax
The absurdity of many here’s opinions about Russia is disheartening. If any group should know better than believe the narrative it’s this one. The Russians are absolutely crushing the Ukrainians , Putin would easily win an honest election in Russia with a huge majority , and the Russian elite are unified in their support of keeping NATO off Russia’s borders. What to look for next is a false flag chemical weapons attack blamed on the Russians. That’s the red line NATO has laid down so that’s what is coming. All those here who want war I believe you’ll get it. I pray cooler heads prevail and we stay out of this war we started.


You really haven't been paying attention have you? The last several elections there have been several rivals for the office and they have commanded some very interesting poll numbers- Russian style. However, in every case when one got close the candidate was either killed or jailed for whatever crime Vlad could make up at the moment. Saying there are fair elections in Russia shows you really don't have a clue about what is really happening in that country.


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Originally Posted by Daveinjax
The absurdity of many here’s opinions about Russia is disheartening. If any group should know better than believe the narrative it’s this one. The Russians are absolutely crushing the Ukrainians , Putin would easily win an honest election in Russia with a huge majority , and the Russian elite are unified in their support of keeping NATO off Russia’s borders. What to look for next is a false flag chemical weapons attack blamed on the Russians. That’s the red line NATO has laid down so that’s what is coming. All those here who want war I believe you’ll get it. I pray cooler heads prevail and we stay out of this war we started.


If you're crushing your enemy in battle - you don't ask them to the peace table.


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Originally Posted by Daveinjax
The absurdity of many here’s opinions about Russia is disheartening. If any group should know better than believe the narrative it’s this one. The Russians are absolutely crushing the Ukrainians , Putin would easily win an honest election in Russia with a huge majority , and the Russian elite are unified in their support of keeping NATO off Russia’s borders. What to look for next is a false flag chemical weapons attack blamed on the Russians. That’s the red line NATO has laid down so that’s what is coming. All those here who want war I believe you’ll get it. I pray cooler heads prevail and we stay out of this war we started.


I have seen reports of Putins popularity in Russia & the propaganda which has lead up to that increased popularity. I have also seen reports on how Putin's competition that does dare rear there ugly head is generally jailed on largely trumped up charges to eliminate the competition. So I ask do we really believe in any chance of a fair election in present day Russia?


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i think a lot of russians have an obedience to putin just like a lot of americans have an obedience to trump. he's their tough guy.


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Russians have a cultural tendency towards following strongmen. Putin just showed that he can’t even beat a country a tenth the size of Russia. Enter, stage right, the next strongman.

Sic Semoer Tyrannis.


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Originally Posted by Hunterapp
Originally Posted by Daveinjax
The absurdity of many here’s opinions about Russia is disheartening. If any group should know better than believe the narrative it’s this one. The Russians are absolutely crushing the Ukrainians , Putin would easily win an honest election in Russia with a huge majority , and the Russian elite are unified in their support of keeping NATO off Russia’s borders. What to look for next is a false flag chemical weapons attack blamed on the Russians. That’s the red line NATO has laid down so that’s what is coming. All those here who want war I believe you’ll get it. I pray cooler heads prevail and we stay out of this war we started.


I have seen reports of Putins popularity in Russia & the propaganda which has lead up to that increased popularity. I have also seen reports on how Putin's competition that does dare rear there ugly head is generally jailed on largely trumped up charges to eliminate the competition. So I ask do we really believe in any chance of a fair election in present day Russia?

Do you believe in fair elections in present day US?

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Russia has two options...

Putin Stays: Decimated economy, no Western companies left, No export/import from West.. only source of revenue is from China who will bleed them dry at every negotiantions.. A North Korea 2.0

Puin goes: The coup leaders swears they will become European with free elections, denuclearize, and the west will slowly trickle in funds to rebuild their destroyed economy.


So...

Slaves to China... or Free Europeans.

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Originally Posted by Dutch
Russians have a cultural tendency towards following strongmen. Putin just showed that he can’t even beat a country a tenth the size of Russia. Enter, stage right, the next strongman.

Sic Semoer Tyrannis.


This to a large degree.

One of the larger mistakes I've seen over the last month in this mess is people are ascribing American values and way of thinking to Russians and the RU military and thus anything that happens that doesn't "make sense" must be fake or illegitimate.

Russians/Slavs simply do not think nor operate the same way as we do. What they do doesn't need to make sense to us, only them. Be it in business or war.

It's why America keeps making international blunders - you can not reverse hundreds of years of culture with a quick war, occupation and American democratic processes.


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Originally Posted by Dutch
Russians have a cultural tendency towards following strongmen. Putin just showed that he can’t even beat a country a tenth the size of Russia. Enter, stage right, the next strongman.

Sic Semoer Tyrannis.


Have you asked some Russians?


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Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by Dutch
Russians have a cultural tendency towards following strongmen. Putin just showed that he can’t even beat a country a tenth the size of Russia. Enter, stage right, the next strongman.

Sic Semoer Tyrannis.


This to a large degree.

One of the larger mistakes I've seen over the last month in this mess is people are ascribing American values and way of thinking to Russians and the RU military and thus anything that happens that doesn't "make sense" must be fake or illegitimate.

Russians/Slavs simply do not think nor operate the same way as we do. What they do doesn't need to make sense to us, only them. Be it in business or war.

It's why America keeps making international blunders - you can not reverse hundreds of years of culture with a quick war, occupation and American democratic processes.



Well said and much history to support it.

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Originally Posted by Pat85
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All those here who want war I believe you’ll get it. I pray cooler heads prevail and we stay out of this war we started.


Idiots that want to go to war with a nuclear super power must think their lifestyle is going to be insulated from the ravages of such war. Needless to say they will be in for a rude awakening.


Pat85, you're 100% correct.

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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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Russians have a cultural tendency towards following strongmen. Putin just showed that he can’t even beat a country a tenth the size of Russia. Enter, stage right, the next strongman.

Sic Semoer Tyrannis.


Have you asked some Russians?



My (Russian) sister in law was a Putin fan girl.... until he invaded Ukraine. Now she’s not.

Just one example. I still love her borscht, though.


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The Russian I visit with still likes Putin.


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