I saw too many "from my cold dead hands" break to the jab to believe there'll be any kind of unified stand to a confiscation.
We're fûcked
Blowhards online are just that. But it's a peek into their psyche when they defend masking, jabs, and killing unborn children.
I will submit to the membership, there are legit gun advocates who care not a whit about unborn children, one should be careful in how they view the populace and how it breaks down into voting blocks. Just because a guy supports A doesn't mean he supports B.
Just be honest about it. Don't say you are pro-life, then walk it back and say candidates shouldn't talk about it, or that it's negotiable. You either believe in killing the unborn or you don't. You either believe in limiting gun ownership or you don't.
Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
Don't be a pussy.
The thing is, 'believing' in something, doesn't pass legislation. The 2A being enshrined in the Bill of Rights is a lot different than the abortion issue.
The abortion issue will only change by passing laws. Passing laws requires control of the legislative and executive branches, and having conservative judges in the courts also requires control of the executive and the senate confirmation.
If you believe in the rule of law, then we all know what is required.
There have been other methods tried like bombing clinics and killing doctors. That's hasn't and will not change anything. There is no popular support for that stuff.
Being mad, self-righteous, and calling people names isn't going to change a damn thing.
I don't believe in abortion, but I'm also not trying to be a crusader for the cause. There is a lot of $hit in this world I cannot control, and that is one of them.
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Some things are negotiable, some aren't. Abortion has touched my life, and I feel strongly about it. I'm sorry if I come off as self righteous, I am not. I made a thread about the jab way back and how my employer was mandating it and my struggle to decide what was best for me and mine and what was the "right" thing to do. In this thread I intentionally wove together several issues into one to make my point. If you believe in something then it matters. If you kinda feel strongly about something, then it matters a little less I guess.
Just look at the posts in re the few folks in congress that fight the good fight, at least what the majority here say they believe in. They are parodied, and mocked ad nauseam.
That the abortion topic would be squishy on here is a given. But I have read so many times how people stake out a position, but then walk it back to get the less bad version of the current politician in place. We've done that for so many years now I don't know that we can come back.
You're just a liar.
Post a quote of your's in 2016 against Pro Abortion/Anti Gun Montana Senator Jon Tester.
You can't because you are just virtue signaling now.
Post a single quote now against Pro Abortion/Anti Gun Montana Senator Jon Tester.
You have litterally the worst Senator in the USA, who gave the Democrats the Senate, and you have never spoken out about his Pro Abortion stance or his Anti Gun stance.
Hahaha, TFF.
Where are those pics of the Ukes and Zelensky in Red Square
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
If you lose the 2nd amendment you lose the entire Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights exists to limit the power of the govt and to protect the rights of the people. I swore an oath for more than 25 years to support and defend the Constitution. I never swore an oath to a political party.
This is a hill I am willing to die on.
Thank you, I had hope that someone else felt that way too.
They will vote our way into socialism, We will have to shoot our way out.
Every major horror in the world was perpetrated in the name of altruism.
This thread is no more absurd than the liberal attempt a couple days ago to attack conservative politics and recommend giving up the abortion position. Its obvious to most intelligent people that is is to illustrate the absurdity of the abortion thread.
Take a look at how England valued a firearm when this country was founded. This is the Governor’s Mansion in Colonial Williamsburg. They and most people understood the value of guns until we have lost our collective minds and had society dumbed down by watching “The View” and other mind numbing sources to put us in a precarious state that now, more than ever, we need guns…
The thing is, 'believing' in something, doesn't pass legislation. The 2A being enshrined in the Bill of Rights is a lot different than the abortion issue.
The abortion issue will only change by passing laws.
Amendment 5 clearly says No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law. Now all we need is an admittance that a child inside its mother is a person. There is no reasonable argument that says otherwise.
What the free choice people need is a constitutional amendment that allows them to do their deed. There already is an amendment (5) to prevent what they do.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Let’s win the election first guys, use whatever language it takes to get elected, then really implement policy.
Who’s with me?
They said that about Obamacare.....it's 2024 and they STILL can't muster up the courage to repeal that.
They named a Aircraft Carrier after John McStain
Wrong. The named a destroyer after him. I dont like having any ship named after him but there is a huge difference between a nuke carrier and a destroyer
You get out of life what you are willing to accept. If you ain't happy, do something about it!
If you lose the 2nd amendment you lose the entire Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights exists to limit the power of the govt and to protect the rights of the people. I swore an oath for more than 25 years to support and defend the Constitution. I never swore an oath to a political party.
This is a hill I am willing to die on.
I'm totally with you brother.
Fug pandering to the politicians now and forever. It doesn't work and 90% of Replican voters already believe appeasement is the answer. I want to see dead deer on the hoods of cars again and prayer in schools.
The average "republican" is a little bitch and is just as responsible for ruining this country as the demonrats. Please, anyone prove me wrong
I saw too many "from my cold dead hands" break to the jab to believe there'll be any kind of unified stand to a confiscation.
We're fûcked
Blowhards online are just that. But it's a peek into their psyche when they defend masking, jabs, and killing unborn children.
I will submit to the membership, there are legit gun advocates who care not a whit about unborn children, one should be careful in how they view the populace and how it breaks down into voting blocks. Just because a guy supports A doesn't mean he supports B.
Just be honest about it. Don't say you are pro-life, then walk it back and say candidates shouldn't talk about it, or that it's negotiable. You either believe in killing the unborn or you don't. You either believe in limiting gun ownership or you don't.
I was kinda thinking the same thing walking back to the house tonight.
Seems like the pro mandate, pro jab, pro destroy people's lives because I don't want to admit I am wrong bunch also seem to be pro killing babies.
Worried about "winning". Winning what? Democrat of the Year?
Winning the most tax dollars to Ukraine award?
Win some more Biggest Wealth Transfer In History award?
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
It's strategy Jim, you and I wouldn't understand it.
JFC.
You 2 losers sat your azzes on the couch and let Pro Abortion/Anti Gun Senator Tester squeak out a win in Montana and here you shitbags want to play some stupid game on the Campfire.
Either one of you can't quote a single post against Tester for either being Pro Abortion or Anti Gun yet the rest of us had to suffer him because you're both lazy fuckheads or Democrat operatives.
Not a single post about Pro Abortion /Anti Gun Tester this time around either.
Sad fucking losers just trying to give the Dems as many wins as possible.
The thing is, 'believing' in something, doesn't pass legislation. The 2A being enshrined in the Bill of Rights is a lot different than the abortion issue.
The abortion issue will only change by passing laws.
Amendment 5 clearly says No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law. Now all we need is an admittance that a child inside its mother is a person. There is no reasonable argument that says otherwise.
What the free choice people need is a constitutional amendment that allows them to do their deed. There already is an amendment (5) to prevent what they do.
in that line of thinking liberal DA's in many areas have already omitted and unborn child was a person. there's been many cases prosecuted for the murder of two people when a pregnant woman gets killed....
I mean I am super conservative and whatnot, but I don’t believe on standing in principle if I think something is right or wrong.
Let’s win the election first guys, use whatever language it takes to get elected, then really implement policy.
Who’s with me?
I just saw this thread and glanced through it a little, when I read the title and saw who poster it I let out a little snork and thought how many are going to get the Sarcasm in the post.
And yes, those than latched onto the jab seem to be the least concerned about abortion. Funny, the ones most afraid to die are the ones most likely to be unconcerned about killing innocent children.
Paul
"I'd rather see a sermon than hear a sermon".... D.A.D.
Trump Won!, Sandmann Won!, Rittenhouse Won!, Suck it Liberal Fuuktards.
It would be easy to show the class how important the Pro Life/ Pro Gun issues are for you by simply posting up quotes from 2016 against Pro Abortion/Anti Gun Senator Tester.
Instead you are just a virtue signaling POS who never does anything but whine and whimper here on the Campfire.
Keep sitting your lazy azz on the couch, SimpleJimmy. Even without your help Senator Tester is done with the Anti Gun/Pro Abortion advocacy in the US Senate.
That's funny coming from the pro bumpstock ban guy.
Paul
"I'd rather see a sermon than hear a sermon".... D.A.D.
Trump Won!, Sandmann Won!, Rittenhouse Won!, Suck it Liberal Fuuktards.
The point of the abortion thread was that republicans should not campaign on that topic.
I think the main issues to campaign on right now are the border and inflation. I have a red ass about the election interference but am not sure many feel the same way.
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