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Yeah. My Dad was dreaming, too, when he rolled into Dachau.. twice. Dachau camp was in Germany. "It is true that there were no extermination camps on German soil." - Simon Wiesenthal There were plenty of deaths there, of several ethnic groups/religions, when your dad rolled into it, but they were due to typhus. That's a common occurrence, during the last months of a war, in internment/work camps belonging to the losing side. It's one of the reasons war is hell, and should be avoided whenever possible. Or are you calling Simon Wiesenthal a liar? It's funny how no typhus epidemics affected the German people, Hawkeye. As for Wiesenthal, all he was saying was that the Germans didn't consider Dachau etc. as a place for extermination as they stepped off the trains but only after being worked to death, different from the death camp at Treblinka, for instance. If you deny that the Holocaust happened, Hawkeye, you are a very evil person.
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My judgement about the nature of the camps and the many deaths associated with them is based on the actual facts.
So, did Simon Wiesenthal authorize you to clarify what he meant?
It's a fact that Western investigators attempted to verify the death camp claims regarding all the camps that fell on our side of the Iron Curtain after the war, but were forced to admit that those camps were not in fact death camps, but rather internment and work camps, where many died of typhus near the end of the European theater of war.
The only camps any longer claimed to have been death camps were those that found themselves on the wrong side of the Iron Curtain after the war, so no Western investigators had access to them. Thus Soviet lies about them could not be challenged.
As for why Germans didn't have typhus, it's a disease associated with overcrowding and, consequently, uncontrolled lice populations, absent a sufficient supply of Zyklon B pesticide. That the deaths in the camps were due to typhus was stated matter-of-factly immediately after the war in Army documentaries made at that time. This fact didn't fit the agenda that the Allied powers soon decided to push, however, about the villainous Germans, and quickly went down the memory hole.
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Yeah. My Dad was dreaming, too, when he rolled into Dachau.. twice. Dachau camp was in Germany. "It is true that there were no extermination camps on German soil." - Simon Wiesenthal There were plenty of deaths there, of several ethnic groups/religions, when your dad rolled into it, but they were due to typhus. That's a common occurrence, during the last months of a war, in internment/work camps belonging to the losing side. It's one of the reasons war is hell, and should be avoided whenever possible. Or are you calling Simon Wiesenthal a liar? It's funny how no typhus epidemics affected the German people, Hawkeye. As for Wiesenthal, all he was saying was that the Germans didn't consider Dachau etc. as a place for extermination as they stepped off the trains but only after being worked to death, different from the death camp at Treblinka, for instance. If you deny that the Holocaust happened, Hawkeye, you are a very evil person. You are a slave to the spoon-fed wall paper narrative. Redemption is at hand, if you choose to unbridle.
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Hearing the Holy Hoax debunked the first time made me so damn angry I almost punched my own brother. Since then I wonder what kind of people could create such a deception, then milk it for profit and immunity to challenge for all these years. Hitchcock filmed the camps which were horrific at face value and did not need enhancement. Signs at each place showed the number of dead under a skull and the word Typhus. Every number, if I recall correctly, was under 2,000. I have a family member who was in the Army and saw Buchanwald first hand when it was liberated. Good to know he made it all up too. You’re the reason Eisenhower insisted on filming it; because he knew dopes like you would come to deny it. If you want to bitch about it you can wine about the 7 million people, in addition to the six million Jews, who were killed in concentration camps but who seem to be forgotten about. Gypsies, political opponents, Christians, dissidents, and any number of others who were a threat to the third reich. What he saw and what propagandists created around what he saw are distinctly different realities. If he had been a part of liberating Japanese prison camps he would have seen the same skeletal bodies. Yet nobody claimed those were being exterminated. Films of post war Berlin also show emaciated people, common German citizens. Red Cross records and the actual camp registers of inmates' race, religion and cause of death are available for examination (if you can find them anymore.) Anne Frank's death is listed as typhus. She died in a clean hospital bed under the best medical care available. The bogus numbers you recite are no longer officially stated. You can check these facts yourself. But you cannot mention this glaring discrepancy in Germany and other European countries. Why not? Whatever the truth really is, should it not be open to scholarly research and honest evaluation? This perfectly legitimate and common practice, that would prove what was, isn't allowed. Why? The 1950 World Almanac compared to the 1940 edition shows the Jewish population increasing dramatically, to impossible degree, if 6,000,000 so claimed are deducted from the earlier census. The famous mechanical drawings of crematorium "ovens" by the renowned architect Albert Speer have oft been touted as proof of gas chambers, whose own drawings have never been seen. This attribution to a famous German is meant to demonize an entire race of accomplished people. Why? They do not exist. No structural evidence has ever been found of them anywhere. Still, people, including myself, were nevertheless duped into thinking the real thing proved the non existent and more demonic thing. It's difficult to let go such deceptions, I know.
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...But you cannot mention this glaring discrepancy in Germany and other European countries... . Very soon, it will probably be that you can't mention it here either.
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...But you cannot mention this glaring discrepancy in Germany and other European countries... . Very soon, it will probably be that you can't mention it here either. They are working on that as we speak.
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Yeah. My Dad was dreaming, too, when he rolled into Dachau.. twice. Dachau camp was in Germany. "It is true that there were no extermination camps on German soil." - Simon Wiesenthal There were plenty of deaths there, of several ethnic groups/religions, when your dad rolled into it, but they were due to typhus. That's a common occurrence, during the last months of a war, in internment/work camps belonging to the losing side. It's one of the reasons war is hell, and should be avoided whenever possible. Or are you calling Simon Wiesenthal a liar? It's funny how no typhus epidemics affected the German people, Hawkeye. As for Wiesenthal, all he was saying was that the Germans didn't consider Dachau etc. as a place for extermination as they stepped off the trains but only after being worked to death, different from the death camp at Treblinka, for instance. If you deny that the Holocaust happened, Hawkeye, you are a very evil person. Holocaust deniers are just plain evil enabling dumfuks. Period.
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Holocaust denying, pro-Hamas dumfuks on the Fire. Nothing surprises me here anymore.
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Holocaust denying, pro-Hamas dumfuks on the Fire. Nothing surprises me here anymore. And it doesn't bother you one bit to witness an actual genocide in real time. You are actually thrilled by it! I've given up believing you are just ignorant, but decent at heart. You are not. You cannot hide behind ignorance at least as long as I have a voice to name it. You can be evil as long as you live.
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Hamas launching rockets into Israel over time was kinda like slow motion genocide.
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Holocaust denying, pro-Hamas dumfuks on the Fire. Nothing surprises me here anymore. And it doesn't bother you one bit to witness an actual genocide in real time. You are actually thrilled by it! I've given up believing you are just ignorant, but decent at heart. You are not. You cannot hide behind ignorance at least as long as I have a voice to name it. You can be evil as long as you live. Go back to DU. Evil Is YOU.
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Well, I didn't realize there were so many anti semites here. Actually beyond anti semites, Holocaust supporters? By some of the posted comments. That is a pretty sick minded group. I don't agree with the Treaty establishing a Jewish homeland, but that is water under the bridge. Why are you getting you panties in a bunch there Ben Shapiro lol?
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Perhaps the parents back their kids? Back PLO , not Israel?? Can say a number of things. Open your mind and ponder it. What a bunch of bullshìt. It "can say a number of things," one of which is "nothing at all." If I don't trumpet the fact that It's Cinco de Mayo or MLK day what does that say? If it says I'm racist, "it" is full of shìt and a probably a white suburban Karen who doesn't know her Mexican housekeeper's name. This
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When I was young I toured Dachau concentration camp. Eventhough I was in 6th grade I cried when they showed the movie at the end. You could feel death and sadness on those grounds. There were rope burns in the trusses from hanging so many people before they developed the gas chambers. I can't fathom someone doing that tour and then denying that it happened. I can still feel that emotional time.
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Hearing the Holy Hoax debunked the first time made me so damn angry I almost punched my own brother. Since then I wonder what kind of people could create such a deception, then milk it for profit and immunity to challenge for all these years. Hitchcock filmed the camps which were horrific at face value and did not need enhancement. Signs at each place showed the number of dead under a skull and the word Typhus. Every number, if I recall correctly, was under 2,000. I have a family member who was in the Army and saw Buchanwald first hand when it was liberated. Good to know he made it all up too. You’re the reason Eisenhower insisted on filming it; because he knew dopes like you would come to deny it. If you want to bitch about it you can wine about the 7 million people, in addition to the six million Jews, who were killed in concentration camps but who seem to be forgotten about. Gypsies, political opponents, Christians, dissidents, and any number of others who were a threat to the third reich. What he saw and what propagandists created around what he saw are distinctly different realities. If he had been a part of liberating Japanese prison camps he would have seen the same skeletal bodies. Yet nobody claimed those were being exterminated. Films of post war Berlin also show emaciated people, common German citizens. Red Cross records and the actual camp registers of inmates' race, religion and cause of death are available for examination (if you can find them anymore.) Anne Frank's death is listed as typhus. She died in a clean hospital bed under the best medical care available. The bogus numbers you recite are no longer officially stated. You can check these facts yourself. But you cannot mention this glaring discrepancy in Germany and other European countries. Why not? Whatever the truth really is, should it not be open to scholarly research and honest evaluation? This perfectly legitimate and common practice, that would prove what was, isn't allowed. Why? The 1950 World Almanac compared to the 1940 edition shows the Jewish population increasing dramatically, to impossible degree, if 6,000,000 so claimed are deducted from the earlier census. The famous mechanical drawings of crematorium "ovens" by the renowned architect Albert Speer have oft been touted as proof of gas chambers, whose own drawings have never been seen. This attribution to a famous German is meant to demonize an entire race of accomplished people. Why? They do not exist. No structural evidence has ever been found of them anywhere. Still, people, including myself, were nevertheless duped into thinking the real thing proved the non existent and more demonic thing. It's difficult to let go such deceptions, I know. What's harder to believe is you've duped yourself into such a delirium, or are just an evil POS. So the indescribable stench of rotting corpses stacked like chord wood. The living corpses, staring out of sunken eyes at the Americans. The ashes and bones left from the crematoriums. That was all made up? I'll take a first-hand account of it over your completely made up line of grade A bullsheit. Arbeit Macht Frei I know, I know, you'll just claim it's staged, but I'm not posting it for you.
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We had crematoriums on Ellis Island, too, and they got used. Just means people died and their mortal remains needed to be dealt with in a sanitary way. Always sad when someone dies, but that there were deaths doesn't equate to human lampshades and soap.
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Come on, there’s plenty of evidence and documentation the holocaust occurred. Let’s not play stupid here.
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We had crematoriums on Ellis Island, too, and they got used. Just means people died and their mortal remains needed to be dealt with in a sanitary way. Always sad when someone dies, but that there were deaths doesn't equate to human lampshades and soap. Have you ever read the transcripts of the Nuremberg trials?
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We had crematoriums on Ellis Island, too, and they got used. Just means people died and their mortal remains needed to be dealt with in a sanitary way. Always sad when someone dies, but that there were deaths doesn't equate to human lampshades and soap. Have you ever read the transcripts of the Nuremberg trials? Have you ever studied how those trials were carried out? "The high-grade lynching party in Nuremberg ... is a little too sanctimonious a fraud to meet my old-fashioned ideas." - Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court, Harlan F. Stone "The trials were to have convinced the Germans of the guilt of their leaders. They convinced the Germans merely that their leaders lost the war to tough conquerors ... I left Nuremberg with a feeling that justice had been denied." - Charles F. Wennerstrum, an Iowa Supreme Court justice who served as a presiding judge in the Nuremberg trials
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