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Very nice find Ren50. That’d be a find of the year for me.
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Corner field is closed out for me for the year. I found this not 50 yds away from where I found a intact fluted clovis of same general Size and shape I gave to Slumlord 7 or 8 yrs ago 2 days before he went under the knife. Just speculation on my part But their are unfluted clovis points This has the paleo flaking look to me. Right side base hasn't been hit by plowing for last 225 plus years, most def work ridge area leading down to the tip Left side seems like it got hit, big Ole shot knocked off it. Thinking it did have concave base. You can see the outer Rhine of the material rock on the worked side, and the flat of where it got knocked off the material rock on non worked side. Probably a easy make/ simple point that presented itself to the guy when it got knocked off the material rock. Dunno.. Just speculation on my part.. Could be something as simple as a crude point knocked out easily. But finding it in that specific area just makes me think a little deeper into it.
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That is some crude-looking stuff, Ren. I thought the Indians got sloppier with their knapping as time went on. No?
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Pretty epic rains here last day and a half. Think caddy shack golf course rain kinda stuff. 6.5 to 7.5 inches. Recock on all the fields thru Sunday that I had called done already. Ground scouring rain, wash all the soybean straw away down slopes. Got up this morning and hit pitbull hill which is now done for the year. Today's finds from walking pitbull 4 to 5 corn rows at a time. Left alot of tools and big broken bases and huge tips from mongo blades on the feild. Wish I could find one of those huge blades intact. They gotta be 7 8 9 inches long. Lot of early archaic stuff found today. That bifurcated kirk was a nut crusher when I picked it up. And pitbull gave up some nice spear/ Lance points again today. Going to Labrador Hill early tommorow morning. Might hit corner field after.
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Good day with lots to show for it!
I've hunted many times without near that results.
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Is that a scraper on the bottom right ?
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That one top row far right next to tye really skinny long drill. Almost looks like a harpeth river reworked into a crude drill. Harpeth river points are transitional paleo/ paleo points
The base look and taper and concave base make me think it was a harpeth river point.
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Is that a scraper on the bottom right ? Broken base from a big Ole blade. 👍🏻
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Killin it man!!
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I’ll always be ticked off about having to roof my dad’s house and it came about 6” frog strangler ober night
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I thought the Indians got sloppier with their knapping as time went on. Here in the PNW, the finer points are found in locales where life was the easiest. I.e. if food was plentiful, like along the Columbia River, there was plenty of time to elevate things to an art form. With glacial melt and the Missoula floods, fishing periodically became impossible, tribes had to move to the less productive uplands, and points became quite crude. As the floods receded, fishing picked up, good times returned, and another layer of fine work occurs. If one travels down the Columbia, stop in at Bonneville Dam, and given the extensive excavations required for the build, they have museum exhibits clearly depicting the waxing and waning of knapping talents across time. We're in SE Oregon, and rumor has it our resident Paiutes were composed of mostly undesirable outcasts forced into the hinterlands. Life in the high desert is tough with seasonal moves across the landscape necessary to hunt, fish, forage, and endure winter. Most finds here are fairly rough even though we have the finest of obsidian about. The nearest local digs date back about 15,000 yrs, but they're not uncovering any Clovis work. As to time in general, the Clovis points, with their near full-length flutes, are some of the earliest and yet most difficult forms to duplicate. Still, no one knows exactly what techniques were historically employed in their fabrication. It's clear those large flutes were the absolute final steps though. Several modern duplication methods have been devised with some requiring 3 hands, but even our most advanced efforts frequently break ones point in half with the final strikes. Knapping is one of my many hobbies with raw materials about in abundance (various forms of obsidian), but I've not yet elevated it to an art form. A good mind cleansing but often frustrating endeavor though. A photo hint: If one wants to do a better job of presenting the subtle colors of his finds, place them in a shallow cookie or baking pan beneath about 3/4 inch of water. The above are not near as brilliant when dry and out in the air.
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Some Great finds Rene, and very nice work on the new points!
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You guys are lucky, live where they are plentiful. I’ve never found one.
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I used to find all kind of artifacts in central Georgia, including this point, and this piece of Indian jewelry, found in plowed fields near the Oconee River. I have been searching the banks of the French Broad River, and Bear Creek here in N. Carolina for 25 years, I have found nothing. Not even a single flint flake, not a single piece of pottery.
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I used to find all kind of artifacts in central Georgia, including this point, and this piece of Indian jewelry, found in plowed fields near the Oconee River. I have been searching the banks of the French Broad River, and Bear Creek here in N. Carolina for 25 years, I have found nothing. Not even a single flint flake, not a single piece of pottery. I’m surprised that you haven’t found much in the high country. There is lots to find a couple hours east of you.
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