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L.A. County,.....HEY, what's goin on here?

.............this almost makes sense,

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Program to Find Illegal Immigrants in Jails Approved

Last Edited: Tuesday, 12 Aug 2008, 8:01 PM PDT
Created: Tuesday, 12 Aug 2008, 8:01 PM PDT

A program intended to root out illegal immigrants in Los Angeles County jails will start specifically targeting gang members, following a vote by the Board of Supervisors.


Los Angeles -- A program intended to root out illegal immigrants in Los Angeles County jails will start specifically targeting gang members, following a vote Tuesday by the Board of Supervisors.

On a motion by Supervisor Michael Antonovich, the board voted to direct Sheriff Lee Baca to modify his department's agreement with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement to ensure that known gang members receive priority for interviews that would determine their immigration status before their release from jail.

"Every known gang member who is on the list for an interview should be interviewed prior to release back into our communities," Antonovich said.

Inmates are already subject to an immigration interview if they are self declared to be foreign born, have been convicted and will serve out their sentence in a county jail as opposed to a state prison, said Anna Pembedjian, justice deputy for Antonovich.

Of those inmates, known gang members will now be at the front of the line for interviews, she said.

The move follows public outcry after the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Jamiel Shaw Jr., allegedly by a reputed gang member, whom authorities believe was in the country illegally.

The shooting occurred the day after the suspect was released from a county jail.

Shaw's parents were among the dozens of members of the public who requested to speak on the subject before the board voted in what quickly became the most heated and drawn-out portion of the meeting.

"We tell our kids that nationality and colors don't make a difference, but when you have the illegal alien gangbanger come in and killing his brother, or doing all kinds of harm to American citizens, it brings back up the color issue," Anita Shaw, Jamiel's mother, told the board. "Something has to be done."

Other members of the public spoke out against the immigration interviews, saying that they resulted in law enforcement officials targeting and deporting illegal immigrants who had committed only minor offenses.

Roughly 4,000 gang members are currently in county jails, according to Baca.




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Four points to the opposing team,....ouch,

Link: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=aGXnysnhBFqY&refer=latin_america

Four Mexican Police Chiefs Are Assassinated, Milenio Reports

By Hugh Collins

Aug. 12 (Bloomberg) -- Four police chiefs were assassinated in Mexico yesterday, bringing the number of police killed this year to 270, Milenio reported.

Top police officials were slain in the state of Mexico, north of Mexico City; Chihuahua, near the U.S. border; Quintana Roo in the south of the country; and Michoacan, on the Pacific coast, the Mexico City-based daily reported, without saying where it got the information.

An additional 15 people were killed in the states of Chihuahua, Sinaloa and Mexico, the newspaper said.

Mexico's top police officers are being targeted and killed as drug traffickers retaliate for arrests and record seizures stemming from President Felipe Calderon's crackdown on narcotics gangs.

To contact the reporter on this story: Hugh Collins in Mexico City at Hcollins8bloomberg.net

Last Updated: August 12, 2008 10:24 EDT



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Buckets of blood,....running down gutters,

we worry about problems on the other side of the globe.

sure looks to be getting rough down there,.....hell, it's pretty rough here.

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Link: http://m3report.wordpress.com/2008/...-national-front-against-organized-crime/

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El Universal (Mexico City) 8/12/08



- An officer of the Federal Police attending the Higher Academy of Public Security in San Luis Potos� was murdered while enroute to the city of Quer�taro with two other students. Their vehicle was riddled by gunfire and the two other officers have disappeared. His is the fifth murder of officers attending the academy. Four others were abducted earlier this month and their bodies found along the same San Luis - Quer�taro highway.



These murders are causing fear at the academy and the staff is calling for measures to increase security. Active Officers who attend the academy for advanced training are petitioning the director for authorization to carry weapons, since present regulations do not allow it. The officers who were murdered were not armed. The agents fear that �the enemy is within.�



- The subdirector of police in Tepalcaltepec, Michoacan was murdered by an armed group last night. This makes the third ranking police officer assassinated in the state this month.



- In Aguascalientes, two men were gunned down this morning near a police station. They have not yet been identified.



- In Monterrey, Nuevo Le�n business owners are asking support from the federal government to halt the insecurity in the state. Fear of reprisal and lack of official action is given for citizens� failure to to participate in reporting criminal activities.



- Twenty people were murdered in the state of Chihuahua in the past two days. The murders were in different parts of the state and there appears to be no connection in the rash of criminal events.



- In its editorial, �Exasperated with the impunity,� El Universal observes in part, �Yesterday the National Commission of Human Rights called for the construction of a national front against organized crime, worried because 99% of crimes continue with impunity, the distrust of police authorities is reflected in the reporting of only 10% of crimes, the procedures are inefficient and the penitentiary system is ineffective because of corruption.�



�The worst is that chiefs and agents of the forces responsible for public security are involved in crime and that some of the heads of criminal groups direct operations from jail by way of cell phones or instructions transmitted through their defense lawyers. The mess becomes more tangled every day.�



The editorial goes on to call for reforms in enforcement by following the examples already established in other countries. It concludes, �The political will is indeed lacking at all levels of authority to set aside their acrimonious quarreling and attend to what ought to matter most to us at this time. It�s a huge task for the authorities and the people and all the (political) parties in the 32 states of the Republic. Enough of wanting to benefit from the mistakes of others. We are going to win � or lose � this war, all Mexicans together. Let�s count on winning it, correctly and quickly. �

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El Debate (Sinaloa) 8/12/08



The unexplained temporary withdrawal of federal troops from four key inspection areas of Guam�chil, Sinaloa has arroused suspicion. The federal forces had been assigned to the areas with orders not to abandon them. Then according to an anonymous

source, at 10pm last Saturday evening they received orders to leave and no reason was given. They were ordered back to their posts at 3am Sunday morning. No one seems to know why the five-hour gap in surveillance was given.

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The key words were "if they are self declared to be foreign born".







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I'm not real sure why this is such a "Key" word, Issue.

If the SOB is covered with rude tatoos from hairline to toes,....that repeat the # 13,....and he only speaks broken English between hawkings and spittings in one's face,....I'd say that "Benefit of the Doubt" quals. had been well met.

....yeah , yeah, I know ....deport......Lawyers, rights , blah blah ad infinitum.....

I'd jus' soon hang the POS.

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Well, as anticipated, ....and forecast ( By the Maricopa Sherrif)
......He's off on anoither tear.

Chuckle, and a prayer for all of 'em.

Link: http://www.abc15.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=7223ea9a-69d2-48b0-936e-26d2ef00f0b3

100 deputies, volunteers conduct West Valley crime sweep
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As many as 100 Maricopa County Sheriff deputies and other volunteers were in the West Valley on Wednesday in an effort to catch human smugglers and undocumented immigrants.

Authorities said the deputies and volunteers were patrolling and arresting anyone violating the law, including immigration laws in the area of Dysart and Bell roads in Surprise.

Sheriff Arpaio�s enforcement efforts against human traffickers and their co conspirators has netted 1051 arrests since March 2006, according to a news release.

The human smuggling laws have created controversy, but the Arizona Court of Appeals upheld the legality of arresting both the smugglers and undocumented immigrants for the second time this year.

After Governor Napolitano took away $1.2 million designated to the Sheriff by the Arizona state legislator for the enforcement of the human smuggling laws, private citizens have come forward to offer support.

Over $36,000 has been donated to the Sheriff�s office, some of which was scheduled to be used in Wednesday's operation.

"I am proud to be doing the will of the majority of citizens in this county," Arpaio said. "I assure everyone that my deputies and posse handle these operations respectfully and professionally. And the unsubstantiated allegations repeatedly made by a select few elected officials and open border activists will not deter us from enforcing the law.�





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Big Bucks flushed,Murders continue,

.....WOW, check out the bar graph at the bottom !

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� Murders continue - National Commission of Human Rights calls for national front against organized crimeCorruption by public servants costs Mexico 60 billion annually - 9% of the GDP
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El Diario (Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua) 8/13/08

- Corruption by public servants represents an annual cost of 60 billion dollars to Mexico, an amount four time larger than the income from petroleum exports, and 9% of the GDP, according to World Bank figures. A Mexican congressman, Hugo Martinez, said that acts of corruption at the federal, state and local levels, as well as concessions and services by private parties, increased from 115 to 197 million, according to the National Corruption & Good Gov�t. index. �Corruption engenders loss of credibility for the State, government and public administration, it inhibits citizens� participation in public affairs, induces illegality and inadequate assignment of funds as well as their appropriation by political and economic groups, with high costs to society.�
- Pedro Aragones, director of investigative services of the state of Chihuahua�s AG�s office, was shot to death and his �ministerial police� escort gravely wounded in a car-to-car gunfire assault in the state�s capital city, Chihuahua.
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Excelsior (Mexico City) 8/13/08

(First paragraph of an op column by Armando Roman)

�End of the social compact�
The State has collapsed: Mexico is a jungle. The warnings, the claims, the demands, in the media, on the street, were many. Nevertheless, our �authorities� did not listen to the millions of Mexicans who shouted to them to be careful and not to allow us to arrive where we have. The same is true for those many other Mexicans who lack a civic conscience, who could care less about their fellow man and who, in the context of the institutional orphan status which characterizes us, choose to rob, kidnap, rape, murder and a very long etcetera! The lack of legality and conscience of those who opt for crime has resulted in that the Mexican social compact - which in itself had never been complete - may now have become totally dissolved.
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a.m. (Leon, Guanajuato) 8/13/08

Juan Lopez, Social and Human Development Secretary, spoke before a local congress in Guanajuato and said that in that state there are 769,000 persons in �extreme poverty�, living in 149,000 dwellings. Of that number, 215 thousand live in �nutritional poverty� - not being able to pay for their food - because they earn 500 pesos or less per month. Guanajuato is also among Mexico�s leaders in suicides, lack of access to health and �expulsion� (read: source of migrants) of workers. (Note: Guanajuato, with close to 5 million inhabitants, is slightly smaller than Maryland)
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Cuarto Poder (Tuxtla, Chiapas) , La Cronica de Hoy (Mexico City) 8/13/08

The president (read: Chief Justice) of Mexico�s Supreme Court, Guillermo Ortiz, urged all sectors of government to act against insecurity and said that society�s indignation is justified because its integrity is threatened. He called for more technical and professional expertise in crime case investigations and for �adequate, complete, sensible and useful laws, with precise and severe punishment against crime. He added that the legislature must create laws which determine �unavoidable procedures� so that judges may legitimately impose punishment and sanctions.
Summed up : for the legislature: clear, useful and powerful laws. For the executive: professional investigations, as well as crime prevention and prosecution of criminals. For the judicial: just, impartial and objective sentences.
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Noroeste (Culiacan, Sinaloa) 8/13/08

Sinaloa State AG�s office data show that of an average 2,022 crimes officially reported, only 331 cases result in sentences for the perpetrators. That 16% rises to 96% when cases not officially reported are taken into account. All this due to lack of resources, lack of training and personnel background clearances.
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Norte (Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua) 8/13/08

Of the approximately 760 homicides which have occurred so far this year only nine cases have been referred to criminal courts.
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Diario Xalapa (Xalapa, Veracruz; part of large �o.e.m.� paper group) 8/13/08

During the current year organized crime has assassinated 62 Mexican federal agents including high ranking personnel, an average of 7.7 a month. In the majority of cases the victims were ambushed or forcibly abducted by strongly armed �commandos.�
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El Debate (Culiacan, Sinaloa) 8/13/08

(the following report makes the number in the previous item already obsolete)
Two federal �preventive police� officers were murdered before dawn today (Wed.) in the Mazatlan, Sinaloa, area. Thugs armed with assault rifles fired on them as the two agents arrived at a locale.
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El Diario de Coahuila (Saltillo, Coah.) 8/13/08

- A newspaper archive search from 2002 to date by �El Universal� reveals that active duty or ex-police officers were involved in half of the kidnapping cases reported. The cases involve federal, state and local police agents.
- The Public Security Secretary of the state of Sinaloa, Josefina Garcia, admitted the failure by all three levels of government regarding the Culiacan-Navolato Joint Operation, given that homicides (637 to date), auto theft and commercial establishment robberies �do not cease.�
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El Informador (Guadalajara, Jalisco) 8/13/08

An average of one hundred prison inmates escape Mexican jails yearly, which reveals the inefficiency and corruption of prison officials, as well as the �self-government� by the inmates. 496 prisoners fled from 2003 to 2007, a figure which could reach higher if it is contrasted with press reports of each event. During the same period there were 207 homicides within the jails as well as 157 suicides.
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El Porvenir (Monterrey, Nuevo Leon) 8/13/08

Besides impunity, the lack of economic growth and of generation of employment are the causes of crime due to the �desperation� by people in not being able to find jobs. This, according to Armando Paredes, president of Mexico�s Enterprisal Coordinating Council, who added that those persons represent an easy target for narcotraffickers. Nevertheless, the main problem is impunity, since only one out of one hundred crimes is punished.
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El Universal (Mexico City) 8/13/08

- �SIEDO� , a sub-agency of Mexico�s Dep�t. of Justice (a unit specializing in the investigations about organized crime) has been found to have been infiltrated by the Beltran-Leyva brothers� drug cartel. Two �high level� officials, one a coordinator of technical services, and the other a police personnel coordinator, plus a federal agent have been detained. (This figure was updated by another paper that said that six �SIEDO� personnel are now in preliminary detention.)
- There were thirteen homicides in Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, in the last 24 hours; one of them was a police officer. These deaths bring up to 33 the number of victims in Juarez in the last 72 hours.
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Ensenada (Ensenada, Baja Calif.) 8/13/08

About a dozen men managed to escape when Mex. naval personnel saw them unloading a launch at a dock in El Sauzal (quite close to Ensenada, B.C.) The load: 106 packages of weed weighing 1,522 kilos.
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(The attachment is a bar graph showing the amounts, in billions of dollars, of individual monetary remittances sent by Mexicans abroad back into Mexico.)
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TSA is just SO inspirational and exemplary in it's exactitude and precision,.......NOT !

oh well, ....they "Supported" this op.

Link: http://www.loudountimes.com/news/2008/aug/13/Arrests/

ICE arrests 42 workers at Dulles International Airport
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WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 13 2008
UPDATED WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 13 2008

On Wednesday, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested 42 men believed to be illegally present in the country at Dulles International Airport as part of a critical infrastructure protection operation.

ICE agents, with support of airport security agencies, arrested the illegal aliens just inside the airport grounds at a checkpoint established to verify the identity and immigration status of workers entering a service gate.

During a similar operation in June 2006, 55 illegal aliens working on airport construction were arrested.

�It is crucial to ICE�s homeland security mission to know who enters sensitive areas like airports, military bases and power plants to ensure the integrity of these key assets,� said Mark X. McGraw, special agent in charge of ICE�s Office of Investigations, Washington field office. �This operation illustrates ICE�s ongoing efforts in partnership with federal and local agencies to secure the critical infrastructure within the National Capital Region.�

ICE agents interviewed more than 200 individuals to verify their identities, immigration status and eligibility for lawful employment in the U.S. Most of the individuals encountered worked on construction projects at the airport.

Those detained are being interviewed, fingerprinted, photographed and entered into Department of Homeland Security databases at a local ICE office. Relatives and friends wishing to check on the custody status and detention location of those detained may call 866-341-3858, ICE�s toll-free, 24-hour hotline.

According to ICE officials, interviews can often generate critical law enforcement information that may lead to future investigations. There is no indication that any of the aliens were involved in any terrorist activity.

ICE agents prioritize enforcement efforts by focusing on the sites related to critical infrastructure and national security. The goal of such operations is to reduce the vulnerabilities at these facilities and other key assets to prevent potential attacks, according to ICE.

Unauthorized workers employed at sensitive facilities like airports, nuclear power plants, chemical plants, military bases, defense facilities and seaports, may compromise the integrity of these key assets, the agency says. In fiscal 2008, ICE agents have made more than 700 administrative arrests and 100 criminal arrests at critical infrastructure facilities.

The Transportation Security Administration and the Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority supported the operation.







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And most of our leaders just seem to keep fiddling.


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It is amazing to see all the murders, all the drugs and all the corruption.
People want cheap labor, people want cheap products (houses, Produce, other goods). We have people here that are too proud to work for minimum wage. We have companies that want to save money so they hire illegals and make a bigger profit.

While we are here complaining about border issues and making ends meet. The people in DC are getting rich off: Oil, insurance companies, and any other type of businesses that can afford to payoff someone to help their cause.
The problem solving begins in DC.
We need to hold companies that hire illegals more accountable.
We need to secure our border better.
We need more anti drug programs so the demand for illegal drugs can go down. Stiffer penalties for drug crimes.
Prosecute any drug load not just loads over 500 pounds.
We need more sherrifs like Joe Arpio. Better yet Our Fed Gov't needs to be like Joe Arpio.
We need to get more people educated.
We need to end welfare for people that can work and stop paying these people to have more babies.

Our biggest threat is not illegal aliens or mexico. Its our own Government we elect to protect us.
How much money do you think Our President is making off oil, the war in Iraq and helping friends? How much Money do you think John Edwards made as a lawyer against insurance and doctors?
How many other government faces are getting rich off, oil companies, insurance companies, companies that hire illegal aliens?
BTW how many are making money off the corporations that have not paid their taxes for years? What would happen to us for not paying taxes?

We can all blame everyone else, but the fact is, we allowed this to happen. I see people complain about Mexicans having to hold their gov't accountable to help stop illegal immigration. Why aren't we holding our Gov't accountable to stop illegal immigration, the rise in fuel cost and rise in health care cost? Exactly!

I don't know about you guys, but I always used to vote republican straight thru. This year I am voting against every single incumbent I can, whether it is Dummycrat or Republican. We need change and change is getting rid of all the trash we currently have in office.
McCain gets my vote for POTUS not because he is the best, but because he is on the republican ticket and I think after it is all said and done he is better than Osama Obama.
Plus no matter what happens our next president is gonna have to grant amnesty. I hate the thought of it, but there is no other way. I see everything happening at work, I am on the front line. I see the havoc illegals are causing on our hospitals, our desert our job rate.
At least when they are legal, they won't get free health care. I am legal and I sure as hell don't get it. If I was illegal it would be no issue.
Illegals that become legal will demand more pay and will have to pay taxes. They won't get the pay, they'll hate taxes so they will go home.
Other illegals will get turned off like they are now about not being able to get jobs so they will stop coming over and littering our desert.
Add More Agents to the Border and stiffer penalties for coming over and that will help a ton too.

I love this Country. I would die for this Country. However it is said how the liberals, big business and the blind eye in DC have let it get so bad. But you know as bad as it is and as much as I complain. I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. I bleed Red, White and blue and I sure as hell not gonna let our corrupt system take that away.

I am sure others will hate what I have written, maybe I am wrong. But what have us as American done to fix the issue? Where have we drawn the line?
Have we seen the damage too late to prevent Amnesty, to prevent a depression?
I guess only time will tell.

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We have people here that are too proud to work for minimum wage.


No. Not only 'no' but HELL NO! Those minimum wage jobs are for American teens, unskilled Americans and those on parole. Do you have any damn idea how hard it is for teenagers to find friggin' jobs? I have two teens that would love a minimum wage job in a burger joint. Two twenty year olds, too. Those kind of jobs are gateway jobs for any young person's career. Unloading trucks, painting, yard work, the whole 9 yards. Do you have teenagers?

Deport every illegal and we could end unemployment in America instantly.

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When illegals kill,.....

Jeez, one would have to say that that's frustrating, no?


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When illegals kill

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Posted: August 14, 2008
1:00 am Eastern

� 2008

"Where you from?"

An illegal alien from Mexico, Pedro Espinoza, allegedly asked that of Jamiel Shaw Jr., 17 � before Espinoza shot and killed him.

Shaw, a promising high-school student athlete wooed by Stanford and Rutgers, was gunned down at 8:40 p.m. just three doors from his Los Angeles home, where his father, Jamiel Shaw Sr., awaited his arrival from the mall. Shaw's mother, Anita, learned the news of her son's March 2 shooting death while serving as an Army sergeant in Iraq.

Edwin Ramos, an illegal alien from El Salvador, on June 22 allegedly gunned down and killed Tony Bologna and his sons Michael, 20, and Matthew, 16. The Bologna family, coming back from a barbecue in their SUV, apparently blocked Ramos' car in a San Francisco intersection. According to reports, after the Bologna vehicle backed up and let the Ramos car pass by, Ramos allegedly opened fire on the family.

The common factor in these killings, as with so many others: The alleged killers came to the country illegally. Federal officials estimate that 40,000 of the 170,000 inmates held in Los Angeles County jails each year are illegal immigrants. And in the cases of Espinoza and Ramos, the police had previously arrested each and � for reasons that remain unclear � the authorities either never referred the arrested alien to Immigration and Customs Enforcement for deportation, or ICE failed to institute deportation proceedings.


Before Shaw's murder, Espinoza had been arrested by Culver City police and served time in a Los Angeles County jail for assault with a deadly weapon. Jamiel Shaw was killed the day after Espinoza's release from jail.

Five years ago, 17-year-old Ramos was convicted and sent to a juvenile shelter for severely beating a suspected rival gang member. After serving a few months, Ramos was released to his mother for probation. Four days after that, he attempted to mug a pregnant woman. Ramos was convicted of attempted robbery and sent to a juvenile camp.

After Ramos turned 18, federal authorities learned of his illegal status when he applied � and was rejected � for legal residency. The illegal alien then married a U.S. citizen and applied for permanent residency � the case still pending when the Bolognas were killed.

Three months before the Bologna murders, Ramos was stopped in the notorious Tenderloin district, and his passenger tried to dispose of a handgun that had been used in a double murder the day before. Ramos was arrested on felony weapons charges, as well as membership in a criminal street gang. Three days after his arrest, Ramos was freed when city prosecutors declined to file charges against him. And ICE did not ask about Ramos' immigration status until after he was released.

Retired San Francisco Police Capt. Tim Hettrich says San Francisco Police Chief Heather Fong told him, "You are not to work with these (federal) people," and it was "common knowledge" in the department that "you were not to do anything with ICE or immigration and illegals, whether or not they committed a crime � even to arrest them � because there will be the perception we are harassing illegals."

I recently interviewed Brian DeMore, field office director for ICE detention and removal operations in Los Angeles. DeMore declined to speculate about why the alleged killer of the Bolognas, Ramos, remained on the streets. But he agreed that Shaw's killer, Pedro Espinoza, should have remained in custody and referred to ICE.

Elder: It seems to me what's supposed to happen is as follows: Someone gets arrested. There's an inquiry made by local law enforcement � police or county � about this person's immigration status. The immigration status is not clarified to the satisfaction of the local law enforcement. Therefore, this person should remain in jail until such time as the local law enforcement is satisfied that this person is � or is not � an illegal alien.
DeMore: Absolutely. � At that point, that local police department would call ICE, or we would make contact with them under Secure Communities because we would receive an electronic notification that they've got someone in custody. � We have an incredibly large task ahead of us. We could always use more individuals. But we are leveraging technology to overcome some of those shortfalls. � The interoperability � where our data will seamlessly integrate with the FBI's, and anyone who makes a query with biometric data or through fingerprints is going to be identified � will be revolutionary and groundbreaking. � We are claiming that within three and a half years, we will be able to interview, detain and remove 100 percent of the Level 1 violators (those convicted of major drug or violent offenses), with Levels 2 (minor drug or property offenses) and 3 (other offenses) falling into line shortly thereafter.

Small comfort to the families of Jamiel Shaw and Tony, Michael and Matthew Bologna.



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Pretty sickening. Glad we're being protected.


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How on Earth are these Mexican "Law Enforcement" going to recruit anybody,....with this going on?

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Suspected drug groups gun down Mexican police commanders in training

08:57 PM CDT on Thursday, August 14, 2008
By LAURENCE ILIFF / The Dallas Morning News
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MEXICO CITY � Suspected drug trafficking groups are killing Mexico�s future police commanders before they can even emerge from the much-touted academy that is supposed to transform them into world-class officers.

In the past two weeks, five officers-in-training have been gunned down while traveling to and from the Public Security Superior Academy in the central state of San Luis Potos�.

Analysts said the attacks were both a warning to the cadets and to the government, which is waging an unprecedented fight against drug cartels.

�These groups no longer have any fear that by attacking police there will be some type of retribution,� said Mexico City police instructor Arturo Ya�ez, a former federal police adviser. �Their only limit is their imagination.�

The attacks have sparked a partial strike by the nearly 1,000 academy students, who are demanding the right to carry guns and are calling for police roadblocks to intercept drug gunmen.

In an open letter to Public Security Minister Genaro Garc�a Luna, the cadet strike leaders complained that students have been left defenseless in the face of drug hit squads that operate in and around the state capital, also called San Luis Potos�.

�We are commissioned to San Luis Potos� to be trained, when in reality they put us at the disposition of organized crime,� according to the letter, which was also sent by cadets to journalists. �Five of our colleagues have been executed in a cowardly and criminal act, unable to defend themselves since our superiors force us to leave our weapons behind when we travel.�

The letter said the cadets are both first-time students training to be Federal Police and current officers from different law enforcement groups around the country. They are taking part in a one-year program designed to elevate the commander corps of Mexico�s often-criticized police forces.

The striking cadets removed their uniforms while skipping morning classes, both as an act of protest and so as not to be identified when they left the academy, they said.

Still, they complained that they were easily recognizable in the capital city �because of the haircut that is required.�

Mr. Garc�a Luna, the police minister, has said the academy is the core of his program to root out corruption and create a new class of police officer using best practices found in law enforcement throughout the world.

�What we want,� he said in a September 2007 interview with The Dallas Morning News, �is that in a year we would have a thousand police commanders who will go all over the country to start the entire new police model that we need.�

The ministry declined to comment on the student strike, but officials from Mexico City visited the facility Wednesday, promising security for the students, who attended classes normally today while waiting for their demands to be met. They include guns, roadblocks and a special investigator into the five killings.

Four of the officers were killed while returning to their hometown � Morelia, Mexico � to visit their families over the weekend. The fifth officer was intercepted in his car and killed while traveling back to the academy after a visit to his hometown in the central state of Mexico near Mexico City.





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From La_La Land,.....Governator and Mr. Potato Head,

"Universal City",.....is that not better known as "Hollywierd?"

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Schwarzenegger says U.S.-Mexico border unites
August 14th, 2008 @ 7:29pm
By MICHAEL R. BLOOD
Associated Press Writer

UNIVERSAL CITY, Calif. (AP) - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Thursday urged fellow governors on both sides of the U.S.-Mexico border to cooperate on issues from water management to building a green economy.

The annual Border Governors Conference spotlights a region that stretches from the Pacific coast to the Gulf of Mexico that is rife with unyielding problems _ pollution, gun-running and drug violence _ and economic potential.

Illegal immigration has strained relations between the two countries, but Schwarzenegger called the 2,000-mile border "a line that unites us."

"There is no divide to the air that we all breathe, or the clean water that we all depend on," said Schwarzenegger, a Republican who chairs the group. "There is no divide between our common desire to make the border region an economic powerhouse."

The border states _ California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas in the U.S., and Sonora, Baja California, Chihuahua, Coahuila, Nuevo Leon and Tamaulipas in Mexico _ plan to sign an agreement Friday to clean up huge discarded tire piles in the region. An agreement is also planned on climate change.

Competing interests at the border make solutions elusive. Officials are eager to promote bustling trade and tourism _ Mexico is California's biggest trading partner _ but drug trafficking and illegal immigration remain thorny issues.

Federal officials say nearly all illegal guns seized in Mexico are from the United States, and many of the weapons have been traced to smuggling points in Southern California, Arizona, Texas and New Mexico. Near the bustling San Ysidro crossing, assailants in Tijuana throw rocks, bottles and bricks at agents in San Diego, hoping to distract them long enough to jump the fence. The Bush administration is racing to meet a congressional mandate that called for 670 miles of fencing to be in place along the U.S.-Mexico border by the end of the year.

U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told the governors that the administration was looking for ways to speed cross-border travel, even as security is tightened in an age of terrorism. Chertoff also said the government wants to increase binational cooperation when floods or wildfires strike.

"We know that when storms or other natural disasters occur, they do not respect political boundaries," Chertoff said.




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Some "dark underbelly" Blog editorial comment,......typifying frustration levels, and reeking of strong desire for overall change in approach.

Link: http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/08/heckuva_job_ice.html

Heckuva Job, ICE Princess & Abu Moskowitz: Alien Brags He's Been Deported 20-30 Times
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By Debbie Schlussel

If you got a zit in the same place 20-30 times, methinks you'd dump your dermatologist or, at the very least, try a new skin treatment.

But far more dangerous than porous skin is our porous borders. And it's simply a joke when a person, caught within our borders, brags that immigration officials know him and that he's been deported 20-30 times.

Believe you me, Jose Manuel Sanchez-Rojaz is not the only on who fits this description. Sadly, we've had the same incompetent witch doctors running Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Customs and Border Protection (CBP) for some time now and the same failed regimen to treat the problem:

A police investigation in Cleves, Ohio led to a startling admission by an alleged illegal immigrant--that he has already been deported more than two dozen times.

Sanchez-Rojaz: Illegal Alien Deported 20-30 Times
Jose Manuel Sanchez-Rojaz, 33, was arrested early Tuesday morning by a Hamilton County Sheriff's deputy. Sanchez-Rojaz was wanted for questioning regarding stolen vehicle. Authorities say the vehicle was stolen around 4 a.m. in the 6300 block of State Route 128.
During the questioning, Sanchez-Rojaz allegedly gave the deputy a false name and birthday. He was charged with falsification and obstructing justice.

The deputy says Sanchez-Rojaz also told him he "had been deported multiple times by immigration." Authorities say he went on to elaborate that meant some "20-30 times."

Sanchez-Rojaz also allegedly told the deputy that immigration officials "know me very well."

Sanchez-Rojaz was taken to the Hamilton County Justice Center. Officials with Immigration and Customs Enforcement were also notified.

Sanchez-Rojaz is scheduled to appear in court on Tuesday.


Blame "The ICE Priness," ICE's incompetent chieftess Julie L. Myers.

Ohio is the domain of Michigan/Ohio ICE Special Agent in Charge Brian Moskowitz a/k/a "Abu Moskowitz". Blame him, too, for Sanchez-Rojaz being here, yet again. And blame him for a sheriff having to do Moskowitz's job in catching this guy.

But, hey, Abu Moskowitz is too busy to handle these kinds of things. Too busy hanging out with FBI award revokee, marriage fraud perpetrator, and "former" Islamic terrorist Imad Hamad, and too busy seeking out new extra-marital girlfriends.

Yup, too busy, while this guy comes in and out of the U.S. 20-30 times.

Heckuva Job!

Posted by Debbie at August 14, 2008 12:37 PM

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Do you have any conception what it costs in man hours, paperwork, etc etc each time you deport this charmer? I've been told it COSTS AS MUCH AS I MAKE IN A YEAR but the figures would be interesting. Any one have the definite amount?

Posted by: poetcomic1 at August 14, 2008 02:00 PM


Let's hope next time he becomes a drowning victim having used the sea route.

Posted by: GOLDENMIKE4393 at August 14, 2008 03:59 PM

poetcomic1

I don't think there would be an accurate figure and if it was figured the figures would most likely be altered or layed out to change the perception, since every region within ICE/DRO is administered to that "FOD's" (Field Operations director) method. Some areas rent an enormous amount of DVD's for these criminals to watch on weekends, whereas others have the cojones to not bother with such nonsense. Also, all have agreements or even contracts with food service providers to cater meals (typically sandwiches, chips, and a drink) which vary by areas. But some buy expensive food, not the bare essentials. Those are just two examples of the mountain of expense the current method requires. Yes the whole concept is ridiculous, but nobody at ICE management has ever addressed it!

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Wow, talk about out of touch, or denial, take your pick.


I'm not sure I could handle watching them carry on like this in live time,....or in person,......

Would probably puke all over the pwetty carpet.

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Sickening beyond belief indeed!

Plinker,
I was a teenager not too long ago. I am only 26. But the point I am making is when you are without a job you do what you need to to survive even if that means a minimum wage job. But there are too many people that would rather not take that job because they are to proud. That is true no matter how we see it.
There are people that won't even work for 10 or 12 bucks an hour, because it is too hard.
Get rid of every single illegal around here and you WILL still have unemployment because whether you believe it or not, some people are plain lazy and you and I are supporting them with something the Gov't calls welfare.
Face it, you can pay someone 20 bucks an hour and they still won't go out and work those fields. Many will, but many won't.

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"Deport every illegal and we could end unemployment in America instantly. "
Sorry to say, but won't happen. Kinda funny too.
I guess we see different walks of life. Maybe what you are saying works for the people you come in contact with.
What I am writting is what I have seen/witnessed, heard, read and encountered.
I have seen people wanting to start as "CEO" so to speak rather than start at the bottom and work their way up.
I have sen people start at the bottom and become uppers.
I have reviewed apllications where people won't work for less than x amount when X amount is what the job is really worth.

I agree that burger joints are for teenagers, but when you have no choice, I'm sorry, some money is better than no money. If It was flipping burgers to feed my family or not feed them, flipping burgers wouldn't be so bad as a last resort.
But thats me and how I was raised, Humble not proud.


Crossfireoops is posting a lot of great information about the border issue. Some of the stuff I have seen and read before. All I can say is all that information is what you call a failed immigration policy. Until Someone in office gives a crap and someone can give them enough money will our immigration policy/border security be fixed.

Crossfire,
Great read and thanks for sharing what goes on near the border. Because of my job I can not share all that I have seen, but I will say this. My job has opened my eyes to how bad things are and how much gets covered up.
Great job Senor!!

Kique



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