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So,....Hatch act's a paper tiger ?

...take it off the books.

Any other laws,....similar,....loose 'em.

This is a nice encouraging story,.....poor downtroddens scratching, again.

..........and than, there's the "FEAR"

I hope that word sees just a bit more use, and emphasis,.....because it's about to lose credibility,.....

I'm not trying to be obtuse, either

you figger on that,....needing a hand,

I'd be glad to explain


Link: http://www.charleston.net/news/2008/sep/03/jail_check_finds_illegal_immigrants52858/

Jail check finds 170 illegal immigrants
Associated Press
Wednesday, September 3, 2008



HILTON HEAD ISLAND � A crackdown has identified 170 illegal immigrants in Beaufort County's jail, and the sheriff said he has heard the extra scrutiny is causing a number of people in the U.S. illegally to leave the area.

The county is two months into a three-month crackdown on illegal immigrants. Agents from the Immigration and Customs Enforcement are at the jail, helping to weed out any inmates who should not be in the U.S.

Sheriff P.J. Tanner told The Island Packet of Hilton Head that the next step will be investigating companies suspected of hiring illegal immigrants.

Officials auditing county business licenses are expected to hand over the names of several companies suspected of hiring undocumented workers this week, and deputies will look into both supervisors and workers, Tanner said.

"We have heard through different sources in the county that there is a percentage of foreign-born illegals who have been voluntarily leaving the county, particularly those with children," Tanner said. "They don't want to be picked up for a traffic offense and then get tied up in deportation."

Community leader Juan Campos said the crackdown is causing fear. Business at his Mi Tierra restaurants has fallen 60 percent as his customers leave town, said Campos, who served as president of the Latin American Council of South Carolina before the group changed its name and focus.

The crackdown also is creating fears that deputies are stopping suspected illegal immigrants for minor violations like having a car light out just to check if they are in the country legally, Campos said.

Hatch Act, will work if you have the evidence, film etc. The good thing about it, is that being Fed. at least it won't be heard in the same county, as the good'ol boys live.


That's an interesting story about illegals leaving, such places as Hilton Head SC. I don't know if your familiar with the area, but it's big money, with resorts, condo's etc. Alot of Mex. jobs in motels, restaurants, landscaping, housekeeping etc. I wonder if the illegals are leaving for Mex. or just somewhere, where the heat isn't on them???

More tunnels,.....

Good Lord,

Link: http://m3report.wordpress.com/2008/...es-the-need-for-a-national-police-force/

Mexican President Calder�n stresses the need for a national police force
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El Universal (Mexico City) 9/2/08

- President Felipe Calder�n is said to be convinced that Mexico needs a national police force, but recognizes that first it must be trustworthy and efficient. He is convinced of the need but also aware of the complex and controversial problems presented by the country�s federal structure in forming such an agency. It would require a radical constitutional change. �First I need to build my own, that is to say the first step of this project is that the Federal Police perform better and that I have a police force that is reliable, without which I cannot propose to the people a national police agency,� he said. [Ed. note: Mexico's numerous police agencies operate as independent entities often at odds with one another and lacking any national cohesiveness, cooperation or common mission.]
- In an armed confrontation with the notorious La Familia band of kidnappers associated with the Sinaloa Cartel, Federal Police in Villa Nicol�s Romero in the state of M�xico arrested �at least 20″ of the group and killed two others. Two agents were wounded and another killed. The kidnap victims, a mother and son, were freed. Police also seized four of the gang�s �safe-houses� in the area. Photo relates.



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El Financiero (Mexico City) 9/2/08
A group of 44 undocumented Salvadorans and Guatemalans were detained in the state of Chiapas traveling in two trucks hidden among cow hides. They were discovered by Mexican Immigration (INM) in �deplorable condition� under piles of smelly hides and suffering dehydration. From January through June this year, the Mexican authorities have repatriated 19,147 Guatemalans and 12,950 Salvadorans. The total for all Central Americans sent back during the period is 43,975.
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El Imparcial (Hermosillo, Sonora) 9/2/08
Six police officers were arrested relative to the death of a US citizen in the tourist town of San Jos� del Cabo, Baja California Sur. The victim, a male age 38, whose name has not been released, was from Oregon and had been involved in a fight at an apartment complex. Forensic evidence indicates he may have died from injuries incurred at the time of arrest. The police officers have given contradictory accounts of the arrest and incarceration.
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El Informador (Guadalajara, Jalisco) and Excelsior (Mexico City) 9/2/08
An unfinished narco-tunnel was discovered today in Mexicali, Baja California. The tunnel, 6 meters under the surface, measures 120 meters in length and is 1.5 meters wide. The construction was interrupted 60 meters from entering the US. The tunnel has lighting, ventilation, air conditioning and an elevator, according to the state police. Eight people have been arrested and admit working on the project for the purpose of smuggling drugs. Photos relate.



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Entorno s Tamaulipas (Tamaulipas) 9/2/08
- In two operations, one in Reynosa and the other in Miguel Alem�n, the Mexican Army seized nearly a ton of marijuana and arrested five people. They also seized four AR-15 rifles and other firearms.
- The left leaning PRD party of Andr�s Manuel L�pez Obrador, who came within a fraction of a percentage point of winning the last presidential election, is said to be entering a �critical phase of possible rupture� from internal differences as intermediate elections approach in 2009.
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I don't know where people are going but we seem to have fewer obvious illegals around where I am.

"El Padrino",......yup, revered and respected by a surprisingly large percentage of the populace.

One has but to listen to / translate some of the "Narco Corrida" written over the last decade to ascertain that.............Oh, there ARE American "Hispanic" stations broadcasting it here, too.

Link: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/226/story/51527.html

Mexican drug traffickers wage PR war over image
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Miguel Angel Felix Gallardo, once known as the "godfather" of the Mexican cocaine trade, shown in 1982. | View larger image
By Marisa Taylor | McClatchy Newspapers
WASHINGTON � In Mexico, Miguel Angel Felix Gallardo is feared and reviled as the godfather of Mexico's cocaine trade. On his Web site, however, he's portrayed as a family man and a savvy business tycoon.

Yes, the drug kingpin known as "El Padrino" has his own Web site. He launched the site in June with the help of his family, even though he doesn't have Internet access from his cell in one of Mexico's highest-security prisons.

Mexican law-enforcement officials said that such a PR effort by one of the nation's most infamous traffickers wasn't surprising anymore. Lately, traffickers are turning to propaganda in inventive and often menacing ways, officials said. Although Mexico's drug cartels have long operated in the shadows, some traffickers or their associates now publicly advertise jobs, sponsor folksongs to sing their own praises and post videos or music online as tributes to leaders or to threaten enemies.

The reason for the sudden outspokenness by the usually secretive figures is unclear. Law enforcement officials think that traffickers are lashing out at the government because a crackdown by President Felipe Calderon's administration is pressuring drug cartels as never before. Others think the phenomenon shows that the traffickers see the government as weak enough to challenge directly.

Mexican officials said that so-called "narco-billboards" had appeared in the territory that the paramilitary drug gang, the Zetas, controlled as a way to attack rivals and the government. After a mass shooting of 13 people last month, several billboards threatened residents in the northern state of Chihuahua with more violence. Other signs appeared elsewhere in the country, accusing Calderon's administration of colluding with drug traffickers.

Jose Manuel Suarez, legal attache in Washington for the Mexican attorney general, denies the allegations.

"The government's actions do not favor or give priority to one cartel over another," he said. "The narco-billboards are acts of propaganda that attempt to maintain the traffickers' power to intimidate the population."

Others, however, say the phenomenon shows that Mexico's political institutions have weakened since one-party rule collapsed in 2000, provoking drug traffickers to become more brazen.

"The traffickers were controlled and protected under an authoritarian system that has disappeared," said Luis Alejandro Astorga Almanza, a sociologist who studies the drug trade with the National Autonomous University of Mexico. "They're taking advantage of the institutional weaknesses to attack representatives of the government and try to gain power."

A son of Felix Gallardo who responded to questions by e-mail and by phone said his father had less ambitious intentions: He wanted medical attention for a chronic ear infection and an eye injury that's causing him to go blind. Felix Gallardo joins another drug kingpin, Ernesto Fonseca Carrillo, 77, in pushing for better medical treatment in the prison. In a news conference in Mexico last April, Fonseca Carrillo's relatives said they thought that he had cancer and could die if he wasn't transferred to a hospital.

Felix Gallardo has served 19 years out of a 40-year sentence for operating one of Mexico's most violent drug organizations in the 1980s. In 1992, he was transferred to Altiplano, a high-security prison west of Mexico City, because authorities said he was continuing to arrange drug deals by cell phone and fax. Recently, Mexican prison officials said the 62-year-old had tested positive for cocaine use, a charge that his attorney Ricardo Jimenez calls "ridiculous" considering his age and his current residence.

Mexican officials dismiss his medical complaints as exaggerated and say he has received adequate treatment. The security of Mexican prisons, notoriously lax, has tightened in the last several years, making inmates more likely to complain, officials said.

Felix Gallardo's son, Josue, who speaks conversational English that he described as "rusty," has been especially vocal. On an online forum set up by Mexico's version of the White House, the younger Felix Gallardo debated a prison hunger strike. When he noticed Tijuana border blogger Anna Cearley wondering online about his father's site, he responded to her by posting a comment.

He registered www.miguelfelixgallardo.com with a U.S. company to protect the domain name and posted photos from his father's heyday as the leader of the Guadalajara drug cartel. He said the family became nervous about attracting too much attention recently and took down some of the photos, including those of sprawling ranches that his father once owned. The family's letters to Mexico's president about his ailments remain.

"We don't want his liberty," said Josue Felix Gallardo, a 29-year-old who said he had university degrees in computer science and communications. "We only want his health."

His father's complaints have garnered little sympathy in Mexico, where Felix Gallardo was dubbed "the boss of the bosses" after becoming one of the first traffickers to cut a deal with Colombian cartels, ensuring a steady supply of cocaine to the United States. He established ties with prominent Mexican politicians even as he was linked to some of the most heinous drug slayings in the 1980s, including the kidnapping, torture and murder of Drug Enforcement Administration agent Enrique Camarena.

So far, his Web site has drawn more than 5,800 readers, including about 45 who posted questions about the trafficker. Josue Felix Gallardo said his father had personally responded to about half of them by relaying the answers to relatives.

Josue, who was 10 when his father was sent to prison, said his father never involved his children in his affairs. But he added, "We are aware that he may have done bad things. Bad things are bad things. We don't approve of that. But only he knows what he did."

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This is the first time I've heard this encouraging evolution called a "Surge"

Whatever we choose to call it, I hope it's not a flash in the pan.

Link: http://www.commonvoice.com/article.asp?colid=8765

More Than 900 Criminal Aliens, Immigration Fugitives Removed from the US
Jim Kouri
September 4, 2008


More than 900 criminal aliens, immigration fugitives, and immigration violators have been removed from the United States or are facing deportation today following a three-week enforcement surge by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Fugitive Operations Teams in California.
During the special operation, which concluded late yesterday, ICE officers located and arrested a total of 905 immigration violators throughout the state, including 137 here in the San Diego area. Of those arrested locally, 73 were immigration fugitives, aliens who have ignored final orders of deportation or who returned to the United States illegally after being removed. More than 40 percent of the aliens taken into custody in this area had criminal histories in addition to being in the country illegally.

Among those arrested by the Fugitive Operations Teams locally was a 30-year-old Mexican national who was convicted in 1997 for robbery and sentenced to four years in state prison. Last year, Cesar Hernandez-Gallardo lost his appeal to remain in the United States and failed to depart after being ordered deported by an immigration judge. ICE officers also arrested a 37-year-old Mexican national at his residence in Escondido, whose criminal record includes a prior conviction for burglary. He was ordered deported last June and lost his appeal to remain in the United States last month. The other criminal arrests included violent crimes for assault with a deadly weapon, carjacking, domestic violence and sexual assault.

In addition to the local Fugitive Operations Teams, ICE officers from the agency's teams in Los Angeles and San Francisco were temporarily deployed to the area to assist with this enforcement action.

ICE's Fugitive Operations Teams are tasked with identifying and arresting foreign nationals who have ignored final orders of deportation or have returned to the United States illegally after being removed. The teams prioritize cases involving immigration violators who pose a threat to national security and community safety. These include child sexual exploiters, suspected gang members, and those who have convictions for violent crimes.

"ICE is committed to restoring integrity to this country's immigration system and that means ensuring that the removal orders handed down by the nation's immigration courts are carried out," said Robin Baker, field officer director for ICE detention and removal operations in San Diego. "As a country, we welcome law-abiding immigrants, but foreign nationals who violate our laws and commit crimes in our communities should be on notice that ICE is going to use all of the tools at its disposal to find you and send you home."

Since many of these individuals have already been ordered deported, they are subject to immediate removal from the United States. More than half of those arrested during the statewide operation have already been removed to their home countries. The remaining aliens are in ICE custody and are awaiting a hearing before an immigration judge, or pending travel arrangements for removal in the near future.

The Fugitive Operations Program was established in 2003 to eliminate the nation's backlog of immigration fugitives. Today, ICE has 75 teams deployed across the country, including 13 in California.

Last year, the nation's fugitive alien population declined for the first time in history and continues to do so - in large part due to the work of the Fugitive Operations Teams. Estimates now place the number of immigration fugitives in the United States at slightly under 573,000, a decrease of more than 59,000 since October 2006. Given the success of the fugitive operations effort, Congress has authorized ICE to add 29 more Fugitive Operations Teams in fiscal year 2008.

ICE's Fugitive Operations Program is an integral part of the comprehensive multi-year plan launched by the Department of Homeland Security to secure America's borders and reduce illegal migration. That strategy seeks to gain operational control of both the northern and southern borders, while re-engineering the detention and removal system to ensure that illegal aliens are removed from the country quickly and efficiently.

Hopefully they can be kept from returning.

Back To Basics?
McCain Invokes (Teddy) Roosevelt and Reagan

John McCain Acceptance Speech -- September 4

"...We're going to recover the people's trust by standing up again for the values Americans admire. The party of Lincoln, Roosevelt and Reagan is going to get back to basics.
"We believe everyone has something to contribute and deserves the opportunity to reach their God-given potential from the boy whose descendants arrived on the Mayflower to the Latina daughter of migrant workers. We're all God's children and we're all Americans."
What they said....
Teddy Roosevelt: "There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation of all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities."
Ronald Reagan � Via Bill Bennett: "A Nation Without Borders Is Not A Nation"

It was a good speech.

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Not to sound negative, but they got in once and can get in again, that's the opinion that many of these illegals have. After having spoken to illegals, reentry back in the US isn't that difficult for them. The illegal alien interdiction that ICE is doing is great, but they're catching the easy fish first.

They get more bang for their buck in urban areas, then they do in more suburban and rural areas. They have to use the local LE more in places that they have no knowledge of the area, or the situation regarding the illegals. Maybe USBP can keep them from returning.

I know. Likely just wishful thinking.

At least they're easier to track and ID, if they do reenter. They'll be such things as pictures and real ID as to that person, that can be accessed through immigration/USBP.

These rascals are very good at using false names and documents. Alot of times it's difficult to really know who you have in custody. It's gotten better over the years with the technology, especially if the subject has been arrested, and has prints and photo on file somewhere.

Their use of the welfare system has been very expensive for the taxpayers.

Jeez,....hopin' this wasn't in the middle of Hunter's turf

Hunter,...you WOULD give us a complete head's up if it were,

...just kidding,....almost................ball's in YOUR court, Hunter1960.

Curious , over here where the West is still wild,

WTF's up in Tenn.?

Link: http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/Detail.php?Cat=LOCALNEWS&ID=64731

Pair headed for deportation set free on interstate



G. Rodriguez


By Jim Wozniak
Erwin Bureau Chief
jwozniakjohnsoncitypress.com

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ERWIN � Two Hispanic men on their way to Knoxville as part of the deportation process were released Tuesday before they arrived, Unicoi County authorities said Thursday.
County Jailer Rita Williams said superiors of two Immigration and Customs Enforcement employees ordered Gregorio Estala Rodriguez and Primitivo Estala Rodriguez to be let go because the New Orleans office, where the men eventually were headed, had been closed temporarily due to Hurricane Gustav.

�It�s frustrating for us to know that we got illegal aliens that are breaking the law,� Sheriff Kent Harris said Thursday. �That�s a group we don�t want to have here.

�I felt like when they left the jail here that there would be at least some justice because they were going to be deported back to their country. There�s a legal way to get here. That�s what they need to do is come legally.�

Efforts to contact someone from ICE for comment were unsuccessful. Harris said he did not blame the local agents for what transpired.

Gregorio Rodriguez, 32, who was living in Erwin, pleaded guilty Aug. 28 in Unicoi County Sessions Court to possession of schedule II drugs, possession of a weapon and violation of the open container law. A charge of not having a driver�s license was dismissed.

Primitivo Rodriguez, 21, who also was living here, pleaded guilty to having no insurance and no license. A charge of possession of schedule II drugs for resale was dismissed.

The men were released on their county charges on time served, but Harris said they were held until Tuesday, when ICE representatives came to get them.

Williams said the men and the ICE agents were on Interstate 81 heading to Knoxville when they called the jail.

�They called back and said that their boss said to turn them loose because where they�re having the hurricanes in Louisiana; that is their last stopping place before they deport them,� she said. �They said because of the hurricanes and stuff to let them go because they had no place to put them at Louisiana.�

She said the agents released the two men on the interstate.

According to Williams, this is the first time a situation like this has occurred in the eight years she has worked for the county jail.

She said ICE agents called the jail to explain the situation in case anyone saw the men and wondered why they had not been deported.

Harris said Gregorio Rodriguez was drinking a beer on Aug. 16 while driving on Railroad Street. Authorities asked him about a wanted man possibly being at his residence, and Rodriguez would not let them search it, the sheriff said. Rodriguez said he had a gun in his mobile home.

Using a search warrant, authorities found a switchblade knife, a 6-inch knife, a clip to a gun, ammunition and three small baggies of cocaine, Harris said.

Primitivo Rodriguez drove up to the residence and was unable to show proof of insurance, K-9 Deputy Shane Hawkins said. Hawkins said the man told him that he did not have a license.

Attendant to the above,......apparently guns and drugs are not acceptable,.......

"A charge of not having a driver�s license was dismissed."

...what do we have here,....some deluded sick old "Judge",....or embedded corruption?

So,...."These rascals"...........maybe shooting AT them.

Not "Shooting them".....shooting AT them, is the next step.

..........less'n we get a new "Tazer Defence" ( Defense mis-spelled intentionally)

.........there's no "Compronmise" on this issue,....right now, ....most intelligent folk I know see at as win,....or LOSE.

Most can agree that the filthy criminal elemant would do well to keep out.

......or am I just bein' "romantic"....?

GTC

The area that this occured is over in far Eastern TN. just South of Johnson City, near the TN/NC border. It's the Fed's call on this, they were released by a Fed. agency.

If i was one of the agents and could of got authorization for payment number, i'ld of taken them to a local county jail and left them. I'ld of come back later and proceeded onto NOLA.

The county jails don't mind holding Fed. prisoners, they just want an authorization number to submit the bill for food etc. Someone at the Fed. level screwed the pooch here. The agents were ordered to kick them loose, they kicked them loose.

Tazer-"De Fence",

.........get it ?

Oh Well, back to the wall,

GTC

I'd have to say that the BEST we get offa' this sad story is FACT,....from Hunter,...and that much appreciated.

"Surge" off button punched, and media Kudos garnered

....all Feds go back to donut break,

Counties and States once again on their own.

Anyone sees something more sensible,....about this debacle,....

lemme Know,

GTC

Dealing with them on the border as they try and enter the country is one thing. As is dealing with them in a state on the Mex border. The ones i am referring to are two thousand miles from the border and have been here awhile. They get smart quick, keep a low profile, and have multiple ID's.

This big push on deportation hasn't been going on that long, only within the last three or four years has it gotten strong. As i've stated before, it appears that the big push is on those who've been through deportation hearings, deported and have returned to the US(felony). Those folks are in the system with names, pictures, numbers, and are able to be ID'd.

Those who haven't been entered into the system deported, who are caught in this country for the first time(misdemeanor) are hard to ID and even harder to get a response from ICE. They won't respond for one or two, they use to only take them in groups of fifty, if you had less then fifty in custody, too bad. Immigration/Ice isn't that bad anymore, but they still want more then one or two.

I think that there's so many felony cases right now, that's what the push is on. There's many who have been arrested for misdemeanors in the local court systems, but it's the felonies that are being dealt with the largest emphasis at this time.