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This has probably happened in slaughter houses all across the country, before the PETA people started monitoring it. I am not saying what the employees or the company did was correct. More eyes are watching the meat packing industry, in the last few years, then in the past. The story didn't mention if the, employees involved were illegal aliens or documented citizens.


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Heads roll,......good, I'm would hope that some daylight shines on the colossul Waste,Fraud,and Abuse that's characteized SBI thus far......( like the missing 89 Mi of fence )

Link: http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0908/092308cdam2.htm

Homeland Security replaces head of troubled border programBy Chris Strohm CongressDaily September 23, 2008 After coming under heavy congressional fire for technical problems and cost overruns surrounding efforts to build virtual fencing along the nation's borders, the Homeland Security Department has replaced the official in charge of the multibillion-dollar program, CongressDaily has learned.
Sources on and off the Hill said they hope the removal of Gregory Giddens as chief of the Secure Border Initiative will breathe new life into the troubled program.
The most problem-plagued program that Giddens managed was SBInet, which is focused on using both technology and traditional fencing to secure the nation's borders.
For congressional aides, the likelihood Giddens would be removed became clearer when the department stopped sending him to Capitol Hill to testify about SBInet and instead sent top Customs and Border Protection officials.
"Given the problems with the program and the spotlight on it I don't think you'll find a lot of people surprised about them pulling Greg," a congressional aide said. "The program has suffered public blows and they want a fresh start, particularly as they transition it to the next president."
Sources said they were not aware of anything improper that Giddens did. He has been named executive director for facilities management and engineering in CBP's finance office.
The department has named Mark Borkowski as the new executive director for the Secure Border Initiative.
Borkowski has been serving as a program manager for the U.S. Border Patrol and has 25 years of experience in large systems acquisitions and program management for NASA and the Air Force, according to CBP.
"I've heard through the grapevine that's he's a good fixer," an industry source said of Borkowski.
Sources said the decision to give Borkowski the job likely means that Border Patrol Chief David Aguilar is taking more control of the program to ensure it meets the needs of agents in the field.
"On balance, I want to think that it will be very good for the program simply because whoever now comes in can have an opportunity to address the issues that have seemed to make GAO and Congress so disgruntled," another industry source said.
"Sometimes it's good to get a new coach on the team even though there might not be anything wrong with the old coach."
CBP Deputy Commissioner Jayson Ahern praised Giddens in a statement, saying he developed a comprehensive border security strategic plan and built up the SBI program office "to design and deploy the technological systems, tactical infrastructure, and transportation services required to gain control of our borders."
Congressional oversight committees will likely give Borkowski little time to settle into his new post before they pepper him with questions and outline their expectations. Lawmakers will let him know that patience is running thin to correct deficiencies.
"SBInet has encountered numerous setbacks ... I plan to hold the department accountable for getting SBInet back on track and securing our borders," said House Homeland Security Border Subcommittee Chairwoman Loretta Sanchez, D-Calif.
GAO released a report Monday with blistering criticism of SBInet, along with summaries of several reviews it has made of the program.
"Important aspects of SBInet remain ambiguous and in a continued state of flux, making it unclear and uncertain what technology capabilities will be delivered, when and where they will be delivered, and how they will be delivered," GAO said.
"The absence of clarity and stability in these key aspects of SBInet impairs the ability of the Congress to oversee the program and hold DHS accountable for program results, and it hampers DHS's ability to measure program progress," GAO added.
Giddens did not respond to a request for comment.




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This blurb by Spencer is noteworthy,....in that a few loners, He, Tancredo,.....etc,.....were voicing concern back when all was nutsy-rosy on Wall Street.

and,...."No Tax papers, or immigration papers required"

Good time for some retrospect:



Bailing Out the B*st*rds
Big Banks Stuck It to America

Michelle Malkin -- New York Post -- September 24
Bank Joins With Mexican Government to Undermine U.S. Immigration Laws.

Illegal aliens and the mortgage mess
For the last five years, I've reported on the rapidly expanding illegal-alien home-loan racket. The top banks clamoring for their handouts as their profits plummet, led by Wachovia and Bank of America, launched aggressive campaigns to woo illegal-alien homebuyers. The quasi-governmental Wisconsin Housing and Economic Development Authority guaranteed home loans to illegal immigrants.
The Washington Post noted in 2005: "Hispanics, the nation's fastest-growing major ethnic or racial group, have been courted aggressively by real-estate agents, mortgage brokers and programs for first-time buyers that offer help with closing costs. Ads proclaim: "Sin verification de ingresos! Sin verificacion de documento!" - which loosely translates as, 'Income tax forms are not required, nor are immigration papers.' " [...]
In an interview about rampant illegal-alien home-loan fraud, a spokeswoman for the US General Accounting Office told me five years ago: "Considering the size of Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Houston and other large cities throughout the United States known to be inundated with illegal aliens, I don't think the federal government is willing to expose this problem for financial reasons as well as for fear of political repercussions."


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Things certainly haven't cooled off any. Sinaloa and Chihuahua seem to be the killing zones.

Damn I'd hate to be findin' headless cuerpos an MY way to work.


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� Calder�n asks U.N. General Assembly for new forms of cooperation against insecurity that affects the worldCorruption at all levels of law enforcement within Mexico
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El Diario (Ciudad Juarez ed.) 9/25/08

- The lifeless bodies of six persons murdered by gunfire were found yesterday in various parts of of Chihuahua, four of them in Chihuahua City, the state�s capital.
- (This was logged in at 01:09 AM, Juarez time today) : Four more murders took place in the Juarez area yesterday, bringing the year�s total to 998.
- (This was logged in at 09:15 AM, Juarez time today) : A man fell victim to a number of gunshots while at the garage of his house. This raises the count to 999 homicides in Juarez this year.
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El Imparcial (Hermosillo, Sonora) 9/25/08

Two police officers from Navolato, Sinaloa, are among the eight persons murdered in Culiacan and adjacent Navolato in less than fourteen hours.
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El Universal (Mexico City) 9/25/08

�At least� 150 agents of the State of Mexico�s AG�s Dep�t. (note: there is a state within Mexico that is called �Mexico�) have been charged with criminal activity including taking part in kidnapping gangs. Eight other members of the State�s Security Agency have also been charged with similar activities, while 74 other police officers were discharged for corruption and 12 others due to consumption of drugs.
Another 100 members of that agency are under investigation for extortion �and other acts of corruption.�
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Excelsior (Mexico City) 9/25/08

In Chihuahua, the first 46 city and state police officers have been fired out of the 500 who failed a �trustworthiness� exam administered by the Federal Dep�t of Public Security. 20 Ciudad Juarez police officers were notified of their dismissal. Mayor Jose Ferriz said some days ago that more than 400 members of the city�s police force failed the exam.
Statewide, the process of dismissal for 26 �ministerial police� will begin next week.
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Norte (Ciudad Juarez, Chih.) 9/25/08

The head of Chihuahua�s State AG�s office said that the majority of corrupt �ministerial police� who are detected by means of trustworthiness exams argue that they were forced to act that way because of death threats from organized crime. Another characteristic of deficient performance by police is caused by fear, which later generates impunity.
(Note: two other reports of dismissals and/or resignations of police officers were also reported by other papers from Cancun, Quintana Roo, and a sizeable one in the Tamaulipas �Metropolitan Zone�)
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El Debate (Culiacan, Sinaloa) 9/25/08

A laborer on his way to work came upon three decapitated bodies early this morning (Thurs.); the heads were found some 200 meters away. This, some 25 miles S.E. of Mazatlan, Sinaloa.
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Michelle Obama,.....and verbal diahrea

Link:http://www.thenewamerican.com/reviews/correction-please/379-some-progress-on-the-illegal-immigration-front

Written by William P. Hoar
Friday, 26 September 2008 13:42
Item: The Associated Press reported on August 28: �Hispanics should not have to live in fear of raids by immigration agents, Michelle Obama told a Hispanic caucus to the Democratic National Convention on Wednesday.... �We would have an immigration policy that brings 12 million people out of the shadows,� she told cheering caucus members who shouted �Yes we can� in Spanish.�

Item: Federal officials, reported the New York Times on August 27, �revised upward to 595 the number of suspected illegal immigrants arrested this week in a raid on a Laurel, Miss., factory, making it the largest immigration crackdown on a United States workplace in recent years.�

Item: The AP, in an article headlined �Fear grips immigrants after Miss. plant raid,� cited a youth pastor at Iglesia Cristiana Peniel, where up to 40 percent of the parishioners �were caught in the raid� at the factory in southern Mississippi. The youth pastor was quoted saying: �We have kids without dads and pregnant mothers who got their husbands taken away. It was like a horror story. They got handled like they were criminals.�

Correction: If you don�t break the law, you have no reason to be afraid of immigration agents. Does the fear-mongering Michelle Obama really think that all American citizens with a Hispanic background are permanently terror-riven, unnerved that they will be rounded up and deported? Of course not. However, seeking more votes from those who support illegal aliens, she pretends that is the case.

Meanwhile, the above youth pastor � as well as the headline writer who typically left off the meaningful word �illegal� in front of �immigrants� � conveniently omitted the most pertinent fact: lawbreakers are criminals.

Moreover, about 100 of those detained were quickly released, according to the Justice Department. Many of these were mothers who were fitted with electronic monitoring devices and permitted to return home to their children. There�s no doubt that having a parent arrested isn�t the best thing to happen to a family, but law enforcement is bound to inconvenience those who flout the laws, whether those statutes have to do with stealing from a gas station or stealing someone�s identity.

It is misleading to focus only on such people. Some of those arrested at the electronics-manufacturing company, as noted in IT World, �are being held on identity theft-related charges, the DOJ said. Investigators are looking into other charges, including the fraudulent use of Social Security numbers.... �Identity theft is a growing problem in the United States, and the Department of Justice has prioritized bringing perpetrators of these crimes to justice and protecting the interests of innocent victims,� Stan Harris, first assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Mississippi, said in a statement.� The Justice Department also noted that those arrested came from a number of foreign countries, including Germany, Peru, Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala, Panama, Honduras, and Brazil.

The Bush administration for years has been remarkably soft in enforcing the nation�s immigrations laws. Recently, there seemed to be a bit of a shift, though it�s hard not to be skeptical about ulterior motives. And the most recent administration enforcement program, dubbed Operation Scheduled Departure, seemed to be created for the express purpose of failing. The New York Times, for example, editorially mocked this strategy, which asked illegals to turn themselves in to the government.

The San Antonio Express-News described the results as follows:

With eight down and 456,992 to go, immigration agents called it quits.

The Department of Homeland Security on Friday scrapped Operation Scheduled Departure, a program to encourage immigrants with deportation orders and no criminal records to come out of the shadows and self-deport.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the DHS agency managing the program, confirmed that eight people signed up in the 21⁄2 weeks since it was rolled out Aug. 5 � out of 457,000 eligible candidates across the country and nearly 30,000 in five test cities.

Those in the country illegally do pay attention to events in Washington that could affect them. When the Bush administration�s amnesty program failed to make it through Congress earlier this year, many illegals took notice and acted accordingly, including some who bought tickets to return to their native countries. Whether it was the intention of the administration or not, a certain amount of �attrition through enforcement� has been taking place, and the estimated total number of illegal aliens in the United States appears to have started down.

Enforcing the law against hiring illegals, even though it happens very sporadically, does attract attention. A voluntary identity program called E-Verify is also currently available to employers. In short, there are ways to improve the situation without pretending that the only alternatives are deporting every illegal or legalizing all of them (the latter being, essentially, the position of both Barack Obama and John McCain).

As it happens, Mexico is now getting a small taste of what has been happening in the United States for years. Mexicans are returning to Mexico, reports Fox News, �in numbers not seen for decades � and the Mexican government may have to deal with a crush on its social services and lower wages once the immigrants arrive.� Large numbers of Mexican nationals are finding their way to the Mexican Consulate�s office in Dallas to find out �what documentation they�ll need to enroll their children in Mexican schools. �Those numbers have increased percentage-wise tremendously,� said Enrique Hubbard, the Mexican consul general in Dallas. �In fact, it�s almost 100 percent more this year than it was the previous two years.��

Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, is concerned that the next U.S. administration will toss overboard even limited enforcement efforts concerning illegal immigration. Writes Krikorian:

Now there is research showing that attrition through enforcement works. A new report from the Center for Immigration Studies � used Census Bureau surveys to estimate that the illegal-immigrant population has fallen from a peak of 12.5 million in August of last year down to 11.2 million this past May, a drop of 1.3 million or 11 percent. This decline is at least seven times larger than the number of people removed from the country by the immigration authorities during that period, meaning that most of the drop was due to illegal immigrants deporting themselves. If that rate of decrease were to continue, the illegal population would be cut in half in five years.

So far, so good. But did enforcement contribute to the decline or was it driven just by the weakening economy? Though the slowdown in construction and other industries no doubt contributed to the decline, there are several reasons to think that enforcement was a major factor in the decision of illegal immigrants to leave. First of all, the decline in the number of illegal immigrants started before their unemployment rate increased; in the past, much smaller dips had been seen in the illegal population, but only after their unemployment rate increased � which stands to reason, of course. What�s more, only the illegal population declined; the number of legal immigrants continued to grow.

Trends can be reversed quickly, in either direction. Illegal aliens respond to sanctions, both positive and negative, just as other people do. Should the borders be thrown open even further, millions more would also pour into the country.

This is costing legal American taxpayers a huge amount of money, not to mention rending the nation�s fabric. Up to $22 billion is being spent annually on the families of illegal immigrants by the various state governments, writes Jim Camp for Family Security Matters.

This includes $2.2 billion a year on assistance programs such as Food Stamps and free school lunches. An estimated $2.5 billion annually goes to Medicaid, says Camp. �The demands on some American hospitals have forced some to close emergency rooms as illegal immigrants crowd them and the law requires their care despite their inability to pay for it. Approximately $12 billion is spent on primary and secondary school education for children that are here illegally, many of whom cannot speak English.� Then there is the $3 million daily �to incarcerate illegal aliens and 30% of all federal prison inmates are illegal immigrants. The crime rates of illegal immigrants are estimated to be two-and-a-half times higher than native-born Americans for crimes that include illicit drugs, rape and murder.�

The major candidates for president, sadly, are ignoring these facts. This does make the job harder. But can we Americans actually control our own borders? �S�, se puede!



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Vicente Fox still spouting open-borders garbage, lies on U. S. soil

Link: http://www.tylerpaper.com/article/20080926/NEWS08/809260333

Former Mexico President Says Fewer 'Walls' Would Benefit U.S.

Staff Photo By Mark RobertsWhen addressing questions about concerns over the number of illegal immigrants pouring into Texas and the United States from Mexico each year, Fox compared the migration to U.S. citizens traveling to China, India or other countries looking for jobs.By MALENA OGLES
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Former Mexican President Vicente Fox addressed questions of immigration, the U.S. economy and the future of his country Thursday evening during a question-and-answer session at The University of Texas at Tyler.


Representing the National Action Party, Fox was elected the 62nd president of Mexico in July 2000 and served until 2006. The presidential election in 2000 was the first time in 70 years that the Revolutionary Institutional Party candidate was defeated, and it was the first presidential election since the end of the Mexican Revolution to be generally considered competitive and fair, according to a UT Tyler statement.


When addressing questions about concerns over the number of illegal immigrants pouring into Texas and the United States from Mexico each year, Fox compared the migration to U.S. citizens traveling to China, India or other countries looking for jobs.


While Fox said he supports immigration, he does not support unlimited, unregulated or disorderly crossing.


"We need to make this a win-win situation," he said.


He supported allowing immigrants already employed in the U.S. to continue working here.


Fox criticized President Bush for saying the issue will be handled "tomorrow" and said he can only hope the presidential candidates will consider the issue.


"There is too much of a discrepancy between those who have too much and those who have nothing," Fox said. "The market economy has been the best way for creating wealth but not for closing the gap in poverty."


Fox said the way to reduce the poverty gap is through "powerful social policies."


Fox said the value of the U.S. dollar contributes to immigration from Mexico to the United States. He said that, years ago, workers in the U.S. made $10 for every $1 made in Mexico; now, that has fallen to $5 for every $1 in Mexico.


Fox was one of the few presidents of Mexico to avoid a major economic upheaval during his term in office, according to UT Tyler, and left his successor without any currency devaluation. According to Banco de Mexico, inflation rates during Fox's term went from 11 percent in January 2000 to 4.05 percent at the end of his term.


"What would be better for the United States having a healthy successful neighbor in Mexico," he said.


When asked if the U.S. should look at forming a North American Union with Canada and Mexico similar to the European Union, Fox explained the benefit.


"Today, being on your own, isolating yourself, building a wall is not the way to grow, develop or improve citizens' quality of life. Today not one single nation can survive on its own, not even the mighty powerful U.S.," he said.


Fox said that, to continue to have open markets and facilitate investments, a "wall needs to be torn down."


"We all remember Sept. 11. It was a sad day and none of us would like to see it happen again, but that is not a good explanation for building a wall," he said.


Fox was the featured speaker of the Drs. Lawrence L. Anderson and Svetislava J. Vukelja Lecture at The University of Texas at Tyler's R. Don Cowan Fine and Performing Arts Center.



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More Mexican Globalist Garbage / Meddling

.......A real man of the "Mexican People".......who of course was staying at the Waldorf Astoria ( or at least speaking there).

this all comes across just to doggone smarmy and hypocritical

Link: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=aErWCiaM5aJk&refer=latin_america

North America Must Integrate for Trade, Calderon Says (Update2)

By Fabiola Moura and Jens Erik Gould

Sept. 25 (Bloomberg) -- North American economies must better integrate or risk falling further behind in competitiveness with Europe and Asia, Mexican President Felipe Calderon said.

``North America has been losing market share in world exports,'' Calderon said today at the Economic Club of New York. ``We in North America are losing time.''

Calderon called on the U.S. earlier this week to preserve the North American Free Trade Agreement, saying Sept. 23 that any renegotiation may be harmful. He said today that Mexico, which sells 80 percent of its exports to the U.S., is diversifying more toward Europe and Latin America.

U.S. critics of free trade have been more vocal this year as confidence in the economy erodes, and Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama has said Nafta should be changed to include labor and environmental standards.

Calderon also said the U.S. and Mexico need to improve security and efficiency at their shared border, and that border control hasn't improved since Nafta came into effect.

``We need to diminish the transportation and logistical costs,'' said Calderon, who received a standing ovation at the end of his speech. ``This is how Nafta can improve.''

Pemex Proposal

Calderon also urged Mexico's Congress to vote on his proposal to give state oil monopoly Petroleos Mexicanos more leeway to hire private and foreign companies. The president says his bill will help the company invest to reverse declining oil output. He said today that Brazil's Petroleo Brasileiro SA was an example of a successful state-controlled company.

``Of course, it's a very sensitive issue. In political terms, it's like a capital sin to talk about it,'' he said, provoking laughter from a roomful of bankers, investors and diplomats at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel.

``Take a decision,'' he said in reference to Congress. ``We don't have time to waste. We're losing capability of production.''

Pemex on Sept. 22 said that crude oil output fell 9.2 percent to 2.834 million barrels a day in the first eight months of the year. Declining output is costing 275 billion pesos ($26 billion) in sales this year and threatening Mexico's budget, as 40 percent of the government's revenue comes from Pemex royalties.

Congress may vote on the issue as soon as next month. Calderon submitted his initiative in April.

Fighting Drug Cartels

The president said he will continue to use the army, navy and federal police to enforce the law. Since taking power in late 2006, Calderon has sent tens of thousands of soldiers to regions where violence is escalating as drug cartels are battling for territory.

``Everyday I dream of a safer Mexico,'' Calderon said.

Groups such as Human Rights Watch have criticized the government's policy of using the military to fight drug traffickers in civilian areas, pointing out rights violations committed by the military.

They advocated for the U.S. to include conditions to help prevent abuses in a $400 million anti-drug aid package for Mexico, known as the Merida Initiative, that was approved in June. U.S. lawmakers agreed to partly soften those conditions after Mexican officials objected.

``If the U.S. government is going to engage in a multi-year partnership with Mexico, the government has to ensure it's not giving a blank check to abusive security forces,'' said Tamara Taraciuk, researcher on Mexican issues for Human Rights Watch in Washington.

Mexico's president, speaking yesterday at the United Nations General Assembly, urged all countries to work together to prevent violence committed by organized crime gangs.

Mexican drug cartels have grown powerful on profits from selling marijuana, cocaine and heroin to U.S. users. Violence related to trafficking has resulted in almost 3,300 killings this year, including the assassination of about 300 policemen.





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Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/us/28sheriff.html

Challenges to a Sheriff, Both Popular and Reviled
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Joe Arpaio, Maricopa County sheriff, faces a federal lawsuit accusing him of racial profiling.


By RANDAL C. ARCHIBOLD
Published: September 27, 2008
PHOENIX � Joe Arpaio, a cherished figure in the movement against illegal immigration, is running for a fifth term as the Maricopa County sheriff. But a referendum on his contentious approach to law enforcement � and the growing challenges to it � is already under way in the public arena.

Sheriff Arpaio has raised more than $500,000, and he is mobbed by well-wishers at campaign events, at which he signs autographs and poses for photographs. A poll last month showed him with a comfortable lead over his challenger.

�It�s exciting, taking on an issue that�s really worldwide,� said Sheriff Arpaio, 76, whose deputies, often in the glare of television cameras, have been instructed to pick up illegal immigrants across the county, the nation�s fourth largest and among the fastest growing.

The question is whether Sheriff Arpaio, one of America�s most colorful law enforcement officials, has overstepped his bounds.

A federal lawsuit by the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund accuses the sheriff�s department of racial profiling and detaining legal residents and American citizens for long periods while their status is checked. The Government Accountability Office, a watchdog arm of Congress, is re-evaluating a program under which federal officials trained the deputies here and elsewhere in immigration enforcement.

And the mayor of Phoenix, Phil Gordon, has asked the Justice Department to investigate the tactics employed by Sheriff Arpaio, who first gained national attention years ago for forcing inmates to wear pink underwear, housing them in tents and feeding them food of a green hue.

�The sheriff always did his pink underwear and other publicity stunts,� Mr. Gordon said in an interview, in which he expressed regret over not speaking out sooner. �While they were funny, they weren�t breaking the Constitution and they weren�t endangering lives.�

Mr. Gordon said he acted in April after meeting privately at a church with Hispanic constituents who complained that Sheriff Arpaio, in routine patrols and crime sweeps that included the arrest of large numbers of illegal immigrants, had sown a fear of all law enforcement officials, raising concerns that crimes were going unreported.

In addition, the mayor said, a Hispanic aide, who has since joined the racial profiling lawsuit, complained to him of a sheriff�s deputy singling her out to produce a Social Security card while other, non-Hispanic motorists stopped along with her for driving in a restricted area only had to show their licenses.

In the face of all this, Sheriff Arpaio, his voice a laconic baritone this side of John Wayne, remains unbowed.

�I don�t get any kicks because we locked up 30 guys, especially those coming here for jobs,� Sheriff Arpaio said. �What overrides the compassion, I took an oath of office to enforce that law. That�s the difference. What right does an official have to say, I will not defend the Constitution?�

For the better part of two years, it has not been uncommon for people in Maricopa County stopped for traffic infractions to be asked about their immigration status, particularly if they speak only Spanish and wear certain clothing, including jeans and shirts that officials consider characteristic of south of the border.

Most sheriff�s deputies �can make a quick recognition on somebody�s accent, how they�re dressed,� said Bruce Sands, chief of enforcement for the sheriff�s department, where deputies have received training from Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

The sheriff�s department says the crackdown has rid the county of hundreds of illegal immigrants, including many with felony offenses, and Sheriff Arpaio defends factoring in speech and dress as in line with the training of federal immigration agents; an ICE spokesman would say only that �we use a number of factors� to make such determinations.

Lately, Sheriff Arpaio�s deputies have raided local businesses in an effort to enforce a new state law that aims to punish employers for hiring workers in the country illegally. So far, however, no employers have been charged, though dozens of illegal immigrants have been arrested.

Sheriff Arpaio and his tactics have been closely watched by people on all sides of the immigration debate as they play out in this border state, an incubator for ideas on local enforcement of immigration law.

�What starts in Arizona spreads across the country,� said Chris Newman of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network, which has mounted protests of Wells Fargo in Chicago, El Paso, Phoenix and San Francisco because it leases space to the sheriff�s office here.

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Displaying what even critics call an uncanny knack for reading the popular mood, nearly two years ago Sheriff Arpaio shifted much of his attention to the region�s illegal immigrant population, arresting scores of them during routine and saturation patrols of selected areas and turning them over to federal officials for deportation. He has arrested smugglers as well as the people they were transporting, following state court rulings in his favor.

The Government Accountability Office investigation is examining the federal program known as 287(g), which has provided training to 63 local law enforcement agencies, with Maricopa County having the largest number of participants, in detecting detainees� immigration status. The inquiry arose through a request by the House Homeland Security Committee, whose members were approached by members of the Arizona delegation concerned about possible civil rights violations.

Separately, ICE officials said the agency was auditing its program with Maricopa, but they characterized that review as routine and not the result of complaints. Richard Rocha, a spokesman for the agency, said it believed the sheriff �is acting within the scope� of the agreement.

Already, however, Gov. Janet Napolitano, a Democrat who had welcomed an endorsement from Sheriff Arpaio, a Republican, in her first race for governor, this spring took away state money for his office that had gone in part to immigration enforcement. But Ms. Napolitano, who declined to be interviewed, has remained largely silent on the civil rights concerns raised in the Hispanic community.

A new coalition of labor and community groups, Maricopa Citizens for Safety and Accountability, has accused Sheriff Arpaio of retaliating against opponents.

After a night of saturation patrols in the small suburb of Guadalupe led to a televised confrontation with Rebecca Jimenez, who was then mayor, Sheriff Arpaio threatened to withdraw from a contract to provide policing for the community. The Board of Supervisors approved the move last week but on Monday is to have a revote after it excluded members of the public from its meeting because of protests, possibly violating state law.

Sheriff Arpaio and a close ally, Andrew Thomas, the county attorney and a Republican who has zealously prosecuted immigration law, have publicly sparred with the state attorney general, Terry Goddard, a Democrat, who won his seat over Mr. Thomas in 2002 in a heated campaign.

Sheriff Arpaio announced a corruption inquiry of Mr. Goddard�s office in April 2007, but no charges have resulted.

�We are now a year and a half from that initial press conference where he told the world that�s what he was doing, an unusual way to start an investigation, and we still don�t have a result,� Mr. Goddard said in an interview.

All the focus on immigration has shifted attention from one of Sheriff Arpaio�s primary duties, overseeing 10,000 inmates.

A federal judge is expected to rule soon on an effort by the American Civil Liberties Union to keep in place the federal oversight of the jails that was started in 1995, citing deteriorating conditions and lax medical care in five jails that the A.C.L.U. says pose a risk of serious injury or death to pretrial inmates.

But, despite the intense fire, which now includes daily protests accusing him of failing to process thousands of warrants and costing taxpayers excessive amounts in legal settlements, few here predict the sheriff will lose his job to the challenger, Dan Saban. He is the former police chief in Buckeye and a longtime nemesis who switched parties to run as a Democrat.

At a recent fund-raiser, Robert Marino, a Democrat from Glendale, asked Sheriff Arpaio to sign a copy of his book, �Joe�s Law.�

�Illegal immigrants are breaking the law, and he is enforcing it,� said Mr. Marino, echoing the mantra of his supporters. �He is taking them away from Arizona and back to Mexico. I just wish other people were behind him.�


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Sheriff's are politicians first, and lawmen second. You can't have one without the other. If they don't get elected, they have no authority. He's done a good job, but he's still a politician.

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I recently used the NRA-ILA's website link to email GW Bush and my two senators about the convicted border patrol agents. Here is the email reply from Senator Hutchison:

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Thank you for contacting me regarding the trial of two border patrol agents -- Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean. I welcome your thoughts and comments on this issue.

Many Texans have raised a number of questions with respect to this matter, and I believe that Congress should be briefed with the most up-to-date and accurate information regarding this situation. For these reasons, I wrote a letter to Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT), Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, to request a prompt oversight hearing to consider the facts surrounding the prosecution of these two border patrol agents. The letter also requested that the Senate Judiciary Committee authorize an oversight hearing regarding the incident that led to the prosecution of Deputy Sheriff Guillermo Hernandez of Rocksprings, Texas. Committee hearings help provide the facts and circumstances of these cases to the residents of Texas and the public at large. Our law enforcement personnel and the public have the right to know exactly what is happening on our Southern border and how their government is responding.

I appreciate the dedicated service of those who serve our country as members of the U.S. Border Patrol. As I continue to closely monitor this issue, you may be certain I will keep your views in mind.

I appreciate hearing from you and hope you will not hesitate to keep in touch on any issue of concern to you.

Sincerely,
Kay Bailey Hutchison
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The weblink above is a convenient way to contact your reps about your concerns, and you don't have to be a member to do so. However, if you aren't a member of the NRA, I'd respectfully request you consider becoming one.


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An interesting look at Europe,....... and a pendulum that stopped dead a while back,.......now returning in opposite direction,...and gaining Velocity.


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Score One for Western Civilization
Austrians Fighting Back


New York Times -- September 29

Far-Right, Anti-Immigrant Parties Make Gains in Austrian Elections
Berlin, Germany -- Austria's anti-immigrant, far-right parties benefited from the severe discontent among citizens of that small Alpine nation, winning almost a third of the vote in parliamentary elections on Sunday.
The country's two mainstream parties suffered significant losses, though they received the most votes and could rebuild their fractious, unpopular coalition. The Social Democratic Party led the voting with 30 percent, followed by the conservative People's Party with 26 percent; they slipped by roughly 6 percentage points for the Social Democrats and 9 percentage points for the People's Party. [...]
Anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant sentiments have been powerful forces in European politics in recent years, and rising discontent over globalization and higher prices has helped fuel populist sentiment, benefiting right-wing groups that place the blame for economic woes squarely on immigrants and foreign competition.




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Than, there's really logical evolutions ( ? ) ,...like this,
Is it all the deep fat fried stuff,....?

......makes the rporting so incoherant ?

Link: http://www.newsobserver.com/2662/story/1239345.html

5 charged in slaying of man found in creek
5 charged in slaying of man found in creek


RALEIGH - Police have arrested five people in the stabbing death of a man whose body was found in July in Crabtree Creek.
The killing was not random but stemmed from a dispute involving the victim, Homero Zuluga-Patricio, 26, of Raleigh, police spokesman Jim Sughrue said. Zuluga-Patricio was killed in the early morning of July 21 at 812-102 Navaho Drive and the body was taken to the creek, he said.

Two of the five, all of Raleigh, were charged with murder. They are Javier Medina Torres, 28, and Diego Salinas Hernandez, 30.

The remaining three were charged with accessory after the fact of murder. They are: Carlos Santiago Sanchez, 47, Moises Sanchez Barriento, 36, and Osbaldo Garcia Mendez, 35.

The arrests were made by homicide detectives and members of the police department's Fugitive Task Force. All five were taken to the Wake County Jail.

Zuluga-Patricio died from a stab wound to the neck, according to autopsy results released last week. He had $71.22 in his pockets, and had cocaine in his system, the report said.


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RALEIGH - Police have arrested five people in the stabbing death of a man whose body was found in July in Crabtree Creek.
The killing was not random but stemmed from a dispute involving the victim, Homero Zuluga-Patricio, 26, of Raleigh, police spokesman Jim Sughrue said. Zuluga-Patricio was killed in the early morning of July 21 at 812-102 Navaho Drive and the body was taken to the creek, he said.

Two of the five, all of Raleigh, were charged with murder. They are Javier Medina Torres, 28, and Diego Salinas Hernandez, 30.

The remaining three were charged with accessory after the fact of murder. They are: Carlos Santiago Sanchez, 47, Moises Sanchez Barriento, 36, and Osbaldo Garcia Mendez, 35.

The arrests were made by homicide detectives and members of the police department's Fugitive Task Force. All five were taken to the Wake County Jail.

Zuluga-Patricio died from a stab wound to the neck, according to autopsy results released last week. He had $71.22 in his pockets, and had cocaine in his system, the report said.



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Statistics on the poor downtrodden "Willing Workers"


and you SHOULD read the entire story,...through the link, seein' as to how your fixing to buy houses for alla' these creeps.

Link: http://kfyi.com/pages/local_news.html?feed=118695&article=4339542

STUDY: 22% of 2007 Felonies Caused by Illegals

More Families Asking for Food Help Arizona taxpayers shell out $114 million annually to cover the cost of incarcerating them.


Click here to read the study

A new study from the Maricopa County Attorney is showing that illegal immigrants are responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime.

Data used in the report wasn't gathered until the passage of Prop 100 two years-ago.

The voter-approved law denies bail to those in the country illegally accused of a class 4 felony or above.

The study concluded that nine percent of Arizona's population is in the country illegally, yet nearly 22 percent of felonies sentenced in Maricopa County are committed by illegal immigrants.

Arizona taxpayers shell out $114 million annually to cover the cost of incarcerating them.





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22% of felonies committed by illegals in Maricopa Co. The state spends 114Mil. to incarcerate these illegals. If Big Sheriff Joe and Phantom 309, can't deport all the illegals in his county. How do you expect the rest of the country to do it?

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We're all familiar with your "This is the way it IS, and WILl be" rant / dirge, Hunter,.......

Some of us are not so inlined,....and still seek solutions,......why not start a thread of your own,...in counterpoint to the content of this one,....cuz' quite frankly , you're just sounding tired and bored, and mean, and jaded.

"How do you expect the rest of the country to do it?"

.....I CAN tell you this young buckaroo,.....we better damn well come up with something,.....pretty quick,......

it is about National survival,....in case you ahadn't noticed




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Nothing could possibly be coming in from the Southern quadrant,.....or from far across the Pacific.......Oh no,

........................no way.

Link: http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_S_guns29.214203b.html

Guns move south via Inland gangs

FEDERAL DATA: The region is a "natural path" for criminals who supply deadly Mexican drug cartels, officials say.



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By JOHN ASBURY
The Press-Enterprise

Illegal guns being funneled into Mexico through Inland Southern California are arming a violent drug war that could weaken the Mexican government, a top federal official said.

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives Acting Director Michael Sullivan announced at the bureau's Southern California office in Glendale last week that stopping the gun trade should be the agency's top priority and an obligation of U.S. foreign relations.

"If nothing is done, it could severely impact Mexico's ability to maintain a stable government. We're seeing a record number of (Mexican) law enforcement agents killed," Sullivan said.

The ATF is zeroing in on shipments of American-made firearms moving across the border through the southwestern United States.

Increased enforcement of the gun trade could mean greater oversight of gun retailers and gun shows and more inspections for Americans traveling to Mexico.

ATF officials said they believe the gun trade and drug cartels are intertwined with Southern California gangs -- including those in San Bernardino -- said Karl Anglin, ATF Los Angeles assistant special agent in charge.

San Bernardino has ranked in the top three regions in the country for guns seized by the ATF from criminals and gang members, San Bernardino police Lt. Brian Boom said. San Bernardino police work in a joint task force with the ATF's Violent Crime Impact Team, which monitors the gun trade.

"There's firm evidence that independent drug traffickers moving the guns live in the Inland Empire and a lot of the guns stay here," said ATF Special Agent Maxwell Muse, based in San Bernardino. "We haven't got the mother lode yet, but we know it's happening. When these gang members get involved in the drug and gun trade, it makes for a deadly mix."

ATF estimates that 95 percent of the weapons currently in Mexico are American made and a portion are moving south of the border through the Inland region. The gun trade fuels multiple drug cartels that rule the border and help move drugs between Canada and Colombia.

The majority of guns moved through California come from other states, such as Arizona and Nevada, where laws are less restrictive than California's 30-day waiting period and assault rifle ban. The weapons can then be transported south, but local authorities believe a portion of them remain in Inland cities.

U.S. dealers are able to turn a quick profit of up to about $5,000 per gun sold in Mexico, Sullivan said. They can either move the guns in exchange for cash or as part of a deal to bring drugs back into the United States.

"What we have is a relationship between the narcotics trafficking with the gun trade moving south," Anglin said. "It turned out to be a bigger problem than we thought. It's all related -- we know drugs are coming north on the same route where the guns are moving south."

Smuggling Path

Riverside and San Bernardino counties serve as a transfer point for some of an estimated 7,000 assault rifles and handguns being moved annually and the bought in Texas, Arizona, Nevada, and elsewhere in California, Anglin said. The Inland region's freeways are major trafficking routes for the guns, Anglin said.

"The problem we face through the Inland Empire is that it's such a vast geographic area," Anglin said. "That route is a natural path for criminal organizations to move the guns southbound."

The guns are purchased by individuals who can legally buy them and then turn them over to a smuggler. In Mexico, gun purchases are restricted to law enforcement and the military.

The American guns can be sold at five times what they cost to purchase in the United States, Sullivan said. Last year in this country, the ATF turned over 1,905 firearms-trafficking cases, involving 3,536 defendants, for prosecution.

Sullivan said guns purchased in the U.S. are carried over the border sometimes individually or a few at a time, hidden in cars.

The Mexican attorney general announced last week plans for the government there to begin searching 10 percent of the 230,000 vehicles leaving the U.S. daily. The previous inspection rate varied. The announcement comes after an escalation of violence on the Mexican side related to the drug trade and guns that have been smuggled from the U.S., Sullivan said.

"We're seeing government leaders assassinated and officers killed on the border. The effort is not limited to Mexican officials. We recognize we should be equally committed and we're beefing up our division to counter that," Sullivan said.

U.S. officials are working with Mexican authorities to trace serial numbers and ballistics of guns seized there back to where they were purchased in the states, and, potentially, to the buyers who sent them to Mexico.

On the Gun Trail

The Immigrations and Customs Enforcement agency runs an information network with ATF and Mexican authorities. The firearms trade can bring some immigration enforcement efforts to a halt by undermining border operations, said ICE spokesman Brandon Alvarez-Montgomery, from Washington D.C.

"This is a huge concern because this one thing can throw off everything we're trying to do," Alvarez-Montgomery said. "We're trying to monitor something like human smuggling and someone's sending weapons to kill the agents that are helping us. It's a huge barrier to delay or harm our efforts."

ATF is also increasing inspections of gun retailers and gun shows in the United States to monitor sales records and specific buyers who may be purchasing large numbers of weapons.

The increased inspections are not expected to have any greater impact on consumers already legally able to purchase firearms.

The ATF previously inspected gun retailers every 10 years but has increased inspections to every six years. The agency's goal is to do inspections every three to five years to closely monitor buyers who may be moving the guns to Mexico.

ATF officials work to extradite suspected gun smugglers caught in Mexico back to the United States to face prosecution, including Mexican citizens.

"Our goal is shutting this operation down," Sullivan said. "Every piece of the puzzle might take down a single individual or a whole organization."

Cal State San Bernardino criminal justice associate professor Brian Levin agreed the arms trade and drug trade create a network of crime in local cities and threatens the Mexican government's democracy.

"This is something that has unfortunately slipped under the radar for the average American," Levin said. "One of the main elements of drug trafficking is the threatening use of arms. It shouldn't be any surprise that increasing violence in Mexico is leading to violence in the U.S."







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We're all familiar with your "This is the way it IS, and WILl be" rant / dirge, Hunter,.......

Some of us are not so inlined,....and still seek solutions,......why not start a thread of your own,...in counterpoint to the content of this one,....cuz' quite frankly , you're just sounding tired and bored, and mean, and jaded.

"How do you expect the rest of the country to do it?"

.....I CAN tell you this young buckaroo,.....we better damn well come up with something,.....pretty quick,......

it is about National survival,....in case you ahadn't noticed



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Like i stated if big Joe, can't clean it up, how do you expect a mere mortel lawman to clean up a county??

Like i mentioned before, hoooow many years has McCain, been an Arizona Senator??

Did he tell the citizens of Az. as a Sen. that he was going to, stop the border crossings? I wonder why not, if it was such an important issue to the citizens of the State. I just don't think it was on his "to do" list as your Sen. for so many years. I haven't heard a peep out of him regarding the border, now that he's a candidate for POTUS.

How about a POTUS from a border state, for the last eight years.
Have you heard him during all those years, state that he was going to stop the illegal crossings? It must not of been on his "to do" list either. Now i've heard him stand up for NAFTA, but not border security.

Don't worry, i am going to vote for McCain, but i think that he's sold you Arizona folks a bill of goods, and you kept sending him back to DC, and still no secure border.

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"Did he tell the citizens of Az. as a Sen. that he was going to, stop the border crossings?"
No.
And how many of our elected Washington people give a rip about the problem? It seems to just be the guy on the street that cares. The business people want the cheap labor. The pols want the votes.


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