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The hole's still there ?.....we'll wait and wonder, I suppose.

There's gonna be more about Mr. Basham manana.

Stay tuned, and best regards,

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Basham: Mexican Army Did it Deliberately
But He Does Nothing to Stop Them

Washington Times -- October 14
Mr. Bahsam and hole in fence where Mexican Army probably crossed. The hole is still there. (American Patrol will have more to say about Mr. Basham tomorrow.)

Mexican soldiers crossed clear line -- Pointed rifles at border agent
The nation's border czar has concluded that Mexican soldiers who held a U.S. Border Patrol agent at gunpoint in August did so after bypassing a barbed-wire fence and other clearly visible barriers to cross into the United States, contradicting claims by the State Department and the Mexican government that the soldiers were simply lost. [...]
"There is a barbed-wire fence and new tactical infrastructure within sight that marks the borderline where the incident took place," Mr. Basham said.
American Patrol note: On August 10 we identified the hole in the barbed wire fence where the Mexican Army probably crossed the border. (See this link)
On September 29 American Border Patrol flew past the location and found that the hole was still there.
"How can it be that our government admits that a foreign Army is crossing the border and threatening our Border Patrol agents, but does nothing to stop the intrusion where it actually happened?" asked Glenn Spencer of American Border Patrol.


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Always nice to see something built for the ages,........

...........apparently not the case here,......

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Border fence blown down
8:30 am PDT -- American Border Patrol just received a phone tip that 2.5 miles of new border fence west of Yuma was blown over by high winds last night. -- Earlier we reported troubles with new desert fencing southeast of Yuma


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Blown over by high winds?

That must be high quality!


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Here's a nice brighter note,....enough to warm the cockles of a curmudgeons heart.

Nice perspicascious piece of writing

Link: http://www.vdare.com/guzzardi/081013_chertoff.htm

Our Friend Michael Chertoff?
By Joe Guzzardi

In the unlikely event that you missed it, ICE, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement division of the DHS, is on quite a roll.

Since October 1st, the following raids and arrests have been made:

In California, a month long sweep ended in the arrests of 1,157 aliens from 34 different countries. Many had deportation orders or criminal convictions.

In the Miami area, 116 were arrested including 74 fugitives and 42 immigration violators.

During a week-long operation in Pennsylvania and Delaware, ICE arrested 78 immigration offenders including 26 with criminal records. They included a Mexican who had four outstanding warrants for DUI and probation violations, a Vietnamese fugitive convicted of rape and unlawful sexual contact; and a Guatemalan fugitive who had convictions for assault, offensive touching, forgery and driving under the influence. (In August, working with local police, ICE apprehended 119 aliens in the same two states.)

In New Jersey, ICE operations captured 76 aliens including 21 with criminal histories. Among them: a Cuban male convicted of a felony for possession of a controlled dangerous substance on school property, a Honduran female arrested for aggravated assault, a South Korean female arrested for promoting prostitution (pimping) and a Brazilian male arrested on multiple counts for weapon possession with unlawful intent and aggravated assault.

In South Carolina, at the Columbia Farms poultry processing plant, ICE apprehended 300 aliens. A paper work review of 825 workers found that 775 used false information including social security numbers and fraudulent alien registration cards. (In July, at the same plant, ICE arrested 12 supervisors for knowingly hiring illegal aliens.)
October�s vigorous illegal alien round up extends ICE enforcement operations conducted during previous months, all with similar results.

May: Postville, Iowa and Virginia

July: Ohio and Texas

August: North Carolina, Dulles Airport (twice), Mississippi and Florida

September: LAX Airport, San Francisco and Chicago and Oklahoma
The arrests represent only part of the good news.

Notice the geographic distribution: the East and West coasts, the Southeast, Southwest and Midwest. For aliens and their employers the message seems clear: no matter where in America you might be breaking the law, you could be the next ICE target.

And, another plus, the aliens are from all over the globe: Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Peru, China, Ghana, Korea, Brazil and Cambodia.

Just as quickly as the word once went out in those countries that the United States is a place where an illegal alien can enter, purchase false documents, get a job and live without penalty for the rest of his life, today�s cautionary message�proceed at your own risk�will spread as fast.

ICE is stepping it up.

During 2007, 30,407 arrests were made, nearly double the number from 2006. The total for 2008 is well on its way to outpacing 2007's figures, with 26,945 arrests made as of August 1.

Since last October, ICE has made 949 criminal arrests related to worksite enforcement investigations including 105 owners, managers, supervisors or human resources employees who now face charges ranging from harboring to knowingly hiring illegal aliens. ICE also made more than 3,500 administrative arrests for immigration violations in the workplace during the same period.

For the most brazen whose luck ran out but who felt they could ignore deportation orders, they too now live in a different world.

ICE now has 95 Fugitive Operations Teams working nationwide that have made more than 30,000 arrests this year, including over 34,000 fugitives.

Said Nuria Prendes, director of the ICE Dallas regional office: "If you ignore a judge's order of removal, ICE will find you, arrest you, and you will be returned to your home country."[Press Release]

From Florida came the same warning.

Michael Rozos, field office director for the ICE Office of Detention and Removal Operations said:

"ICE helps to maintain the integrity of our nation's immigration system by identifying, arresting and removing aliens who have ignored a judge's order to leave the country.... While we are a welcoming country, we expect those wanting to immigrate here to do so in a safe, legal and orderly manner. We will continue using all our resources to ensure that removal orders are carried out and locate these immigration violators who potentially pose a threat to public safety."[Press Release]

Finally, an amusing scene from South Carolina where plant employee Nicole Freeman said that as ICE closed in some workers ran for the doors while screaming " polic�a! " and "ICE!" [Workers ran for doors when federal agents arrived at chicken plant, witnesses say, Eric Connor and Paul Alongi, Greenville Online, October 7, 2008 ]

Laughing at other�s misfortune may seem cruel. But I have long maintained that an alien who knowingly comes to the US illegally or falsifies documents to remain assumes an inherent risk.

Maybe he�ll stay forever �in the shadows.� But as of today he should be fully aware that his chance of deportation�now greater than ever�always looms.

What�s happening since enforcement began in earnest is straight from the �I told you so� department.

American workers are lined up to take the jobs that they supposedly �won�t do.� In Mississippi, at Howard Industries, hundreds of applicants queued up.

Other companies signed up recruiters to find new employees. One firm, St Louis-based Jacobson Staffing, hired about 900 temporary workers for Postville�s Agriprocessors and�extra bonus� ran all of the new hires through E-Verify to make sure they are authorized to work in the U.S.

Another personnel firm, Texas-based Bravo Labor Agency located about 200 workers and placed them in sugar cane fields in Louisiana, dairy farms in Maine and grain silos in South Dakota.

Who do we have to thank for this?

The unlikely answer: Michael Chertoff, Department of Homeland Security Secretary�once (and still) a target of our scorn for his support of �comprehensive immigration reform.�

In December 2007, Chertoff said: ��I am not prepared to give up on some kind of comprehensive reform, or at least some progress toward comprehensive reform, during 2008."

But the most important part of the same Chertoff speech is this: ��we have the willingness to enforce the laws the way they are, and that we're prepared to use all the tools at our disposal to get the job done.�

Being for �comprehensive reform� and law enforcement may seem contradictory. But in fact it is not.

There�s no reason why someone cannot favor and promote a particular approach to illegal immigration but obey the existing laws until such a time as new laws replace them.

That apparently describes Chertoff, now.

And while I agree that there�s room for skepticism about Chertoff�that he�s softening us up for the comprehensive immigration reform kill�I really don�t care.

The bottom line: deportations and arrests are currently at a higher level than at any time since the Eisenhower administration, illegal aliens are self-deporting and the U.S. is much less inviting a place for those who have law breaking on their mind.

In the meantime, comprehensive immigration reform never happened in 2008. And I predict it is certainly not going to happen in 2009, 2010� or any time until the Wall Street crisis ends, if even then.

I tip my hat to Chertoff.

Although I doubt he needs my encouragement, I urge Chertoff to continue to enforce the law. His get-tough policies have yielded wonderful results for patriotic immigration reform fans.

Joe Guzzardi [email him] is a California native who recently fled the state because of over-immigration, over-population and a rapidly deteriorating quality of life. He has moved to Pittsburgh, PA where the air is clean and the growth rate stable. A long-time instructor in English at the Lodi Adult School, Guzzardi has been writing a weekly column since 1988.


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Hope this keeps up after Jan 2009. Which ever party wins neither one are big on immigration reform, more towards ammnesty. Whoever wins will get to pick his Homeland Security/ICE Director, hope the new POTUS doesn't pull the rug out from underneath the program. We'll have to wait and see.

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I think the closing line in this piece, pretty much says it all

......." at their peril"


EDITORIAL: Illegals -- the elephant in the room


When John McCain and Barack Obama debate tonight, there will be plenty of discussion about the economy and competing plans for large-scale government intervention to �solve� the financial crisis. The candidates will also be asked to weigh in on the Bush administration's plan to spend $250 billion of the just-passed $700 billion bailout package to expand insurance for bank deposits and purchase equity shares in U.S. banks - in effect, a partial nationalization of these financial institutions. There are plenty of reasons to doubt that the latest baby step toward socialism is good public policy and whether it is even a legitimate role for the government. While both candidates will spend considerable time discussing these matters, they are almost just as certain to ignore real problems they have failed to adequately address - such as securing the country's borders.

Mr. McCain's home county (Maricopa County, Ariz.) illustrates the danger that illegal-alien criminal activity poses to law-abiding Americans.

Phoenix Detective Phil Roberts describes his city as �ground zero for illegal narcotics and illegal human smuggling into the United States.� Statistics complied by Judicial Watch show that illegals account for 20 percent of felony DUI convictions in Maricopa County, along with one-third of drug convictions, 44 percent of forgery convictions and 85 percent of criminal impersonation or fake ID convictions. Nearly 20 percent of all convicted criminals in Maricopa County are illegal aliens and 21 percent of jail inmates there are in the United States illegally.

Similarly detailed statistics for Mr. Obama's home county (Cook County, Ill.) are unavailable. But Chicago, a sanctuary city, is unquestionably a haven for illegals.

Mark Curran, sheriff in neighboring Lake County, Ill., highlights his agency's cooperation with federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement and points out that politicians in Chicago and Springfield have shown little interest in cooperating with ICE. Last month, Mr. Curran released an audit showing that in August 122 of the 637 inmates in his jail were in the United States illegally and that the suspects in half of Lake County's 14 murders this past year are illegals. Common sense would suggest that figures from Cook County and the city of Chicago would be considerably higher.

Part of the reason why politicians like Messrs. McCain and Obama are able to ignore illegal immigration is the lack of useful statistical data on the problem.

Although public opinion polls show overwhelming public support for a get-tough attitude toward illegal immigration, the Washington debate is dominated by powerful lobbying organizations, including the National Council of La Raza, the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, which favor open borders. Many elected officials (Democrats and Republicans alike) are sympathetic toward open borders, and the result is that there is virtually no interest in investigating the role of illegal aliens in the mortgage meltdown and the collapse of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

But the limited information that exists does suggest there could be a connection. For example, in 15 zip codes in San Diego County, Calif., where home values fell by 40 percent in recent years, approximately 45 percent of home loans granted in 2005 and 2006 were subprime. Members of a local nonprofit housing group describe many of these homeowners as recent immigrants who do not speak English, but there is no breakdown of whether they are legal or illegal.

Most Americans understand instinctively that something is wrong. In the long run, Democrats and Republicans ignore the illegal- immigration issue at their peril.



Link: http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/14/editorial-illegals----elephant-room/



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And Glenn Spencer ( as usual ) nails this, square on the head.

.....what's it gonna' be, Senator,.........or is this too bloody simple ?



Create 10 Million Jobs: Hire Only Legal Workers
McCain Can Win If He Wants To


American Patrol Report -- October 15
Which Will It Be Senator?

John McCain has a chance to hit it out of the park tonight. All he has to do is say, "In light of the current economic situation and the likelihood of much greater unemployment in the immediate future, I can no longer support a guest worker program and, as President, I would make sure that our immigration laws are enforced and that only legal workers are employed in America." That would do it. If that were to happen a collective cheer would ring out across the nation. Millions of Americans facing a bleak future would see glimmer of hope and rise to support a man who supports them.
Obama would be caught flat-footed. Barack Hussein Obama has built his career joined at the hip with open-borders radical leftists. He would have to try to defend the rights of illegal aliens and, as he did, his hope of occupying the White House would evaporate.
So there you have it. John McCain can stand up for the rule of law and for Americans and become the next President of the United States, or he can dodge the issue, leaving millions to face unemployment and relegating his place in history as an also-ran.
Which will it be Senator McCain?



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"The Reaper's Line", a book about what is going on at the border, is available here:

http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=1195303108&tab=1&searchurl=an%3Dmorgan%26sts%3Dt%26tn%3Dthe%2Breaper%2527s%2Bline%26x%3D49%26y%3D12

You'll probably have to set up an AbeBooks account to order. That is no big deal. That's the best price I've seen for this book. It is possibly 'remaindered' at that site.


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I am not going to hold my breath, waiting for McCain to comment on illegal immigration/border issues.

I hope the citizens of the state of Az. and other border states won't hold their breath either.

I hate to say it, but it's true, McCain has sold you out on immigration/border issues.

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Originally Posted by crossfireoops
And Glenn Spencer ( as usual ) nails this, square on the head.

.....what's it gonna' be, Senator,.........or is this too bloody simple ?



Create 10 Million Jobs: Hire Only Legal Workers
McCain Can Win If He Wants To


American Patrol Report -- October 15
Which Will It Be Senator?

John McCain has a chance to hit it out of the park tonight. All he has to do is say, "In light of the current economic situation and the likelihood of much greater unemployment in the immediate future, I can no longer support a guest worker program and, as President, I would make sure that our immigration laws are enforced and that only legal workers are employed in America." That would do it. If that were to happen a collective cheer would ring out across the nation. Millions of Americans facing a bleak future would see glimmer of hope and rise to support a man who supports them.
Obama would be caught flat-footed. Barack Hussein Obama has built his career joined at the hip with open-borders radical leftists. He would have to try to defend the rights of illegal aliens and, as he did, his hope of occupying the White House would evaporate.
So there you have it. John McCain can stand up for the rule of law and for Americans and become the next President of the United States, or he can dodge the issue, leaving millions to face unemployment and relegating his place in history as an also-ran.
Which will it be Senator McCain?



Well, .....Spencer's evaluation is rock solid,.....I guess it's up to Mc Pain,.....and who's blown who for the latest scam.

" The Minotity Vote" may not be quite as important as it was ,....but very recently.

Would he be a treacherous, and decietful Politician ,...for turnig his back on "La Raza",...and the rest of the "Aztlan" bunch,......well,...yeah.

.............he holds his position as played up to now, and avoids the issue entirely,........what's that make him,....?
other than he emmitting marginally less stench than the other clown.

what a damn mess.

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What do you know about building the fence?

Are the supports, which i hope are steel, how far are they set into the ground?

The screen material, it's steel also isn't it?

How are they attaching the screen material to the supports, is it welded?

Was it completely welded or just tacked to hold it in place, until they could come back and weld it in, the part that fell in?

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I KNOW more about that fence than you'd even BEGIN to believe,....young buckaroo.

...and have forgotten more about sructural steel pricing, bidding, and construction than you'll ever learn.

On that issue , I report to them what's "Above your pay grade"

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The damn fence isn't top secret, this is Mexico, not the border between North and South Korea.

The Mexicans will have figured ways, over, around and under, by the time it's finally built.

If it's falling down and it's not even built yet and your involved with it. That wouldn't be much to brag about.

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You've gone all ratty,......

back to putting words in people's mouths,....with limited information to work with. How you could ever begin to call yourself an "Investigator" eludes me,....

'Night,...Klutz.

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You bragging that you know all about the fence, you must be in on the construction.

I was just asking a simple question regarding it's contruction and why it fell down? You come out with all your, know how's, know this & that's..

You got problems answering simple questions?

That's right your just the messenger, so you really don't know anything about it. But you want folks to think that you do.

I'll call my friend in El Paso and ask him about it.

Regarding my investigator abilities, guarantee i could get a confession out of you. smile

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Joo jos Gotta' love dees'

....as we speeek,....uh speek,.....speeck,....spick,....

Any way,.....JOO joos gotta love eet,

ees "Excitin",...for old Gringos

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Es simlificado,......

esperate,....

no haces crucero en La frontera, ....ahoracita,

por favor.

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Hopefully not coming soon to a barrio near you.


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NOISY here today,.......

not so much air,

....as ground wave.

Some sorta' weapons training on the "East Range"



All good,....training about weapons, ....finally, with real Mc Coys

I do remember building black powder rat trap "Zip Gun" Simulators for the fellow who started the "Ambush Interdiction" program,not all that long ago.....that has since become such succesful ( and lifesaving ) doctrine.........in defiance of standing orders

The Puzzy Post C.O. wanted "No Pyro".

OoooooooHhhhhh,....BAD US,.....we built unauthorized training devices

this should be investigated,....mebbe the local Sherrif,....Yadda.

Yeah,....right.

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I got to see what built up to where we are, as far as Columbia and other Central American countries.

Colombia is not a Central American country... it's in South America.

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