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BTW, planning a hunt is part of the whole experience for me. Plenty of info out there, you just got to know where to find it!

las,
Please tell us that no fly zones for moose hunters and their gear in control use areas is not also political. It's all for safety, right?

Romo,
You're to kind bro, but thanks!

Interesting question. Off the top of my head, I'd say no, to the letter of regulations. Bet the regulation sponsors never thought of that one.....

What are you - some sort of Tundra lawyer???

Somebody on OYO said you could do that.. I looked at the regs, and it doesn't say anything about the quarters needing to stay 1 piece, it just says the bone needs to stay in the meat.

Calvin
We think alike, as that's the way I have always interpreted it too, but mainly for cutting up ribs on the bone so they fit into a game bag easier.

Two 75 pound pack trips beat one 150 pound pack (per leg).. I'm not 18 no mo.

It absolutely is. But it also has some secondary management/harvest level/user conflict benefits. I had to shoot and pack my moose about a mile at second encounter instead of the 500 yards from camp where I first saw him, due to political boundaries, agendas, and enforcement/management goofiness (never saw a ranger.......). A dead moose is a dead moose.......

Show me a State game department that does not consider political agenda......

Zactly what I was thinking. I'm surely not getting older, but the moose I work each year seem to be getting bigger, or they feel that way anyway. I'm also discovering that they come in more pieces these days. I know the law is specific about which joint you must save above and so forth, but it doesn't say, I don't think, that you can't separate parts into smaller pieces above those minimiums. The hind legs could easily be parted at the knee with the femur ball becoming one one handle while the shank at the heel joint could be another.

It is truly a luxury, fall or winter, to drag moose out on a sled. Head, hide, hooves; they all get retrieved in many cases.






ADF&G site has an amazing amount of useful info. In spite of all the rules, it actually seems that they'd like to see things work out well for people too.

Even if you could whack enough off to get the pack weights down to 100lbs, it would be much easier on the body. I like my knees too much.

I've not seen/packed many moose, but I also haven't seen a 150lb quarter.

Then again, I'm a dink shooter.

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I've HEARD too, and by reading the regs, it only says bone in, but why couldn't you cut em in half? That is my plan, 125 isn't so bad, 150 sucks, but 75 to 100 is MUCH more manageable.

I don't know the full rational behind, but probably like TX where you can't debone either, its to keep count of animals... so if the hinds where in half, you still had count... of course in TX the technical is you can't cut hinds or fores in half, they have to stay intact but I digress.

Same here, Carl. That 150 I used is for one of those 2,000 lb., 80 inch bulls one hears about.....

Actually, a true "quarter" would probably go that much or more on most large, mature (7 or older) AK/Yuk bulls, especially from the Interior. A HIND (taken off at the pelvic joint) on a 1600- 1700 lb bull might come in 15 -20 lbs shy of that weight I'm guessing, but not having taken weights off the two of that size I've taken, I don't really know. I'll have to shoot one again sometime - just to weigh the hinds, ya know.

The HIND weights that I have taken run as follows :

From a 6 or 7 year old 56 inch Kenai bull (generally smaller than Interior bulls) - 122lb.
- a 52 " Kenai (probably 5 year old) bull - 110 lbs, 111 lbs
- this year's Noatak dink (maybe 3 yrs old - shown above) 95 and 96 lbs.

These weights were all taken several days after the kill, so field weights were maybe a couple lbs. heavier.

Not a bad idea cutting those things into chunks, bone left in, cross-wise maybe? for packing.

That band saw is going to be a bitch to pack.

I like the Idea of making smaller peices to carry but I would hate to leave that judgement call up to Troopers. One trip out you may be fine and the next trip your getting written up.

I dunno las, every quarter I've packed out felt like 200 pounds

Seriously though, thanks for posted those true weights. I have always wondered, but never had a scale available to verify.

If you're running FireFox, you can normally ad block the image, which might stop all that rubbish being displayed...

Seems kind of Big Brother though that the State are blocking a picture of a pint simply because you're in a dry village?

T'aint even a paint, me lad!

T'was only 12 oz!

All LEOs have a certain amount of discretion on what they will cite or not.

It's generally not the State LEOs I've had cross-wise with - but some of the Fed LEOs can get funny ideas..... maybe even a little badge-proud.

I had one on the Kenai make persistent noises about citing me on the "antlers coming out last" rule when my wife picked up the skull plate/ 10" forks from my yearling kill on her first pack load out to the road from the canoe landing a quarter mile in. The kill had been made a mile beyond that - and all of the moose was in the canoe coming out in one trip, except "in series" as it were for the 2 quarter- mile portages, including the last one to the truck. I started out first on the first trip out to the road with a heavy load, followed by my wife with a light load, and she just reached down and grabbed the required-by-law antler set on her way by since she had the allowance, but was not aware of the regulation as I was. I'd overlooked telling her to leave the antlers until the last trip. All of which I told the LEO. Who again stated that technically she could s cite me.

I didn't argue or get in her face - I agreed that it was her call, but I would contest it in front of a judge, as all of the kill was indeed coming out "together". She walked in with us for the second pack-out and checked the rest of the canoe load, Again she reminded me that I was technically in violation. then went about her business.

When I related the incident to one of the other Refuge LEOs checking me the next year, he just grinned and shook his head..... the eye-roll wasn't bad either. I asked him what he would have done, and he said everything except the second and third references to citing me.

That trooper b!tch up in Aniak this year just about snapped me...

Lets hear it. Elaborate

The one trooper was really helpful. The chick was worthless.. I even recall wanting to write a few letters after than encounter.