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just got some of these in a little sample pack from a pal. Wow, talk about a LONGGG bullet! Ogive looks pretty similar to a Matchking kind of profile... interested to see how they do, to say the least! I'm not sure the 175 will stabilize, but the 165 should do just fine. left to right, 140 Berger, 165 Matrix, 175 Matrix, and a .308 165 SST for reference.
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Curious to see how that 165 works for you...
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Me too. Tanner let us know...from the WSM right?
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Wicked!!
You gonna single load or mag feed?
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Yes sir, WSM case. I'll mag feed them, 165 is just off the lands at 2.92"
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Thanks, looking forward to your results!
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I'll run them over like 66gr of Retumbo and see how they run, just for some preliminary stuff. If they shoot I'll get a bunch of em.
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Checked out the bc's on their website, assuming those are VLD profile! Holy smokes!
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The BC's on the Matrix site are computer simulated, kinda like the old Berger numbers which were subsequently lowered after testing.
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Yep, I've heard the G1 for the 165 is closer to .650 than what they claim. Still damn slick, but not quite what they're saying.
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Thx 4 the report, I'd like to get my paws on some of the 165's to try in my 9 twisted .270.
I've thought about sticking a 270 tube on my M70/WSM for just that bullet.
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Let us know how they shoot for ya, I've been thinking about a 1/8" 270 Winchester and might give the Matrix 165s a go if it takes the Berger Hybrids too long to get on the shelves.
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I expect that you could get them going 2800+ out of a .270 Winny, that would be a kick butt set up.
I'd like to try the Berger 170 too. My Montana has a super short throat, and I expect the Bergs would have a more aggressive ogive. The 165 gets pretty deep down in the powder column where I've got them seated, but I'm not going to try and jam them.
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Are these a mono bullet? For hunting? Do they expand or what?
Waiting on a 9 twist that is being installed right now.These bullets should be interesting...we had a discussion about them a few weeks ago.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Nope. They use a regular J4 jacket, and are a VLD bullet. They are as much for hunting as the Scenar, A-Max, etc While Matrix won't officially condone their use for hunting, the feedback they've received is that the bullet works well enough for killing stuff.
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I expect (and hope) that they'd perform like a Scenar. Lots of stuff has been killed with 'em, but that doesn't really mean much
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Bob, how about some more info on that 9 twist 270 WCF? What's that rig? Sounds perfect for an M1 if you run the 165s...
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Jordan and or others, any idea where we go to order the Matrix bullets?
Thx Dober
(side note the 140 Berg shoots lights out in my 9 twist .06 Improved)
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