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Sako, I agree. The repos can be used without worry of ruining collector value. I seem to always buy someones problems when buying vintage, just seem to get every lemon around used. I then will not quit until it is right , my smith loves my checkbook. The new repos seem to feed and function fine, once you fix the hammer stru twhich involved about 2 minutes with a file.I have a couple of the 1892 repos as well an shoot them weekly as well. I have a few vintage oringinal Winchester but am shy taking them out, the repos not so much.
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This is a picture that has my 1895 in 30/40 shown at the top. It was a salvage job. The butt had been cut off so the length of pull was about 12 1/2 inches including the dry rotted recoil pad and the stock was broken at the grip. It had some kind of glue on it and a couple of nails trying to hold it together. The barrel had been cut back further ruining the collector value. That was fine with me since what I wanted was a shooter anyway. After the dealer pulled a patch through the barrel and showed me a clean bore, it followed me home. A new stock and it was ready to go. Shoots good but I haven seen any deer while I was carrying it, so I don't have any game pictures to show yet. These Winchester 95's can be had at good prices if you look and are willing to put in a little work. I have seen several that have had busted or cut off butt stocks at gun shows that were being overlooked and weren't priced like a collector rifle. The one I bought had been on the dealers shelf for several years because it was ugly, but if you looked past the ugly, the price wasn't bad at all. To me it made into the perfect Winchester 95 for the kind of hunting I like to do. So what would be a fair price to pay for a non collector version? The 1895 I have has less than $1K in it including the new stock, but that was a few years ago. 30/40's are probably the easiest to find and don't bring near the price of a larger bore like a 35 Win or 405 win. 303 British doesn't seem to command much of a premium either in the examples I've seen. You have to decide what you are willing to give up in order to get a lower price on a shooter. I don't mind mine looking its age as long as the abuse isn't too obvious. I don't care that the butt stock has been replaced or that the barrel is 4 inches shorter than it should be. Or that the blue finish is gone and replaced by a patina. It just looks its age to me. I'm starting to look that way myself... I haven't looked at the auction sites in the last few weeks, but recently I have seen several that I thought would be good shooter candidates in 30/40 or 303 Brit for less than $1500. To me that beats the heck out of paying $3000 to $4000 for one in great condition.
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My dads first hunting rifle was a used 1895 in 30-06. The first time he went elk hunting with it he saw a bull and fired, when he went to chamber a new round the action was frozen and it would not cycle it was so cold. Traded it to the farmer he was working for, for a bolt action something he could not remember when he told me the story. That was in the early fifties. About the late 70s I was shooting hanguns with that farmer at his house and he said he had something to show me. Went into the house and brought out my dads rifle. The farmer passed away in the 90s and around 2005 I got ahold of the son and ask him if he still had his dads 1895. I had to describe it to him and he said he would look. Couple days later he showed up at my house with the rifle and sold it to me for $200. It was close to christmas so I wrapped it up and gave it to my son on christmas morning with my dad sitting there next to my son.As my son was opening his present he saw it was in a new Winchester box and thought it was a new rifle. he opened the box and took out that old rifle, my dad perked up and said is that my old rifle? which I replied that it was. My son was shocked as much as my dad was. He started telling stories about deer hunting with it and coyotes and the elk hunting story that caused him to trade it. It is one of my sons treasured guns now along with my dads elk rifle. These are the priceless moments that make life worth while.
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I'VE GOT A 405 and two 30-06s. One of which will become a 375 Whelen. All three are modern.
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I was at a small gun show today, there were 3 1895s there! a 35 rifle and 2 30-40 carbines, one carbine was only 750 about 400 more than I had! Iv shot Loggahs 405 and fell hard for it! very cool rifle!
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My dads first hunting rifle was a used 1895 in 30-06. The first time he went elk hunting with it he saw a bull and fired, when he went to chamber a new round the action was frozen and it would not cycle it was so cold. Traded it to the farmer he was working for, for a bolt action something he could not remember when he told me the story. That was in the early fifties. About the late 70s I was shooting hanguns with that farmer at his house and he said he had something to show me. Went into the house and brought out my dads rifle. The farmer passed away in the 90s and around 2005 I got ahold of the son and ask him if he still had his dads 1895. I had to describe it to him and he said he would look. Couple days later he showed up at my house with the rifle and sold it to me for $200. It was close to christmas so I wrapped it up and gave it to my son on christmas morning with my dad sitting there next to my son.As my son was opening his present he saw it was in a new Winchester box and thought it was a new rifle. he opened the box and took out that old rifle, my dad perked up and said is that my old rifle? which I replied that it was. My son was shocked as much as my dad was. He started telling stories about deer hunting with it and coyotes and the elk hunting story that caused him to trade it. It is one of my sons treasured guns now along with my dads elk rifle. These are the priceless moments that make life worth while. I've never heard a story this cool about someone's golf club🙄😀
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Great story! Just doesn't get much better.
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I just came home tonight with a coworker's 1895. I WISH I could say that I bought it! I'm only going to clean it up for him. It was his dad's, and his grandpa, and probably great grandpa's before that, but he's not sure when it joined his family. I'll post up some photos soon, but for now here's a teaser specs: 1st model, .30-40 (.30 Army), serial number 5XX.............a 122yr old flat side.
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So what would you pay for a NIB modern repro in 30-06. I know where one can get one in a rifle and military carbine configuration.
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Ok! I'm gonna try to post!
Some nice 1895's on here! I do like mine! I will add, I generally will not consider a firearm for purchase unless it's at least 60 years old. The Miroku 95's are the exception. I own 3. Two tang safety Winchesters and one of the 1980's Brownings. Two are 30/06 rifles and one is a 2006 100th anniv. comm. SRC 30/06.
Took a nice 5x5 bull with my .35 WCF this October and a nice 6x6 bull with the Browning 30/06 last year.
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"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
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Good to see you back, Bob!
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Thanks Mark!! Hope y'all are ok!!!
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"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
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The rifle in the OP reminds me of one of the guys on "The Last Alaskans" on TV. One of the guys that lives out there uses an 1895 for his moose hunting. Nice rifle. Don't remember them saying what caliber, I assume 405, but maybe 30-40, not sure. I've had a chance at a Browning new model but didn't jump. Should have I guess. Had some 1886's too that I liked but I tend to let rifles get away.
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Thanks Mark!! Hope y'all are ok!!! We are all doing well. How's Steph doing?
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Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
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Has any one ever made an 1895 big loop?
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The rifle in the OP reminds me of one of the guys on "The Last Alaskans" on TV. One of the guys that lives out there uses an 1895 for his moose hunting. Nice rifle. Don't remember them saying what caliber, I assume 405, but maybe 30-40, not sure. I've had a chance at a Browning new model but didn't jump. Should have I guess. Had some 1886's too that I liked but I tend to let rifles get away. His 95 was a .35 WCF.
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"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
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Who was asking about .303's??? My old compadre picked this one up about a month or so back! It's a shooter!
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"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
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This year's bull and my .35 WCF.
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
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Has any one ever made an 1895 big loop? I don't think I think would work too well with the 2 piece lever and all.
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"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
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