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1000 Fhuqking Words On 223 DBM's'Course I'm fhuqking sandbagging and shoot a bunch more platforms than that. HINT.......................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Obey lawful commands. Video interactions. Hold bad cops accountable. Problem solved.
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
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Campfire Kahuna
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They are fhuqking junk.
Hint..................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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I've never owned a Kimber but the quality of my CZ 527, 18&1/2" barrel carbine with useable open sights seems pretty good. It's light, handy and routinely accurate with good bluing and decent checkered walnut. Mine's never been bedded or free floated but it's accuracy would seem to indicate quality stock inletting and a good barrel. It's not a pencil barrel so it's shot some, IMO, very good 5 shot groups with a 2-7x33 scope and old eyes. NEGC make a receiver sight that fits the integral scope base.
Some things I don't like about it are the backwards safety, the scope could mount a little lower and the set trigger was rough. I ended up adjusting out the set trigger and it was fine. It's not perfect but the quality's there for considerably less than a Kimber.
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If I were to get a bolt action 223 I would start and stop at the CZ 527. From what I see on the market today the CZ pleases me more than any other I know of. Light, slim, accurate, reliable and comes with a set trigger and a striker blocking safety.
Anyway.............that's my vote.
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They are fhuqking junk.
Hint.................. Schtick pollution.....
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
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Campfire Kahuna
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I've never owned a Kimber but the quality of my CZ 527, 18&1/2" barrel carbine with useable open sights seems pretty good. It's light, handy and routinely accurate with good bluing and decent checkered walnut. Mine's never been bedded or free floated but it's accuracy would seem to indicate quality stock inletting and a good barrel. It's not a pencil barrel so it's shot some, IMO, very good 5 shot groups with a 2-7x33 scope and old eyes. NEGC make a receiver sight that fits the integral scope base.
Some things I don't like about it are the backwards safety, the scope could mount a little lower and the set trigger was rough. I ended up adjusting out the set trigger and it was fine. It's not perfect but the quality's there for considerably less than a Kimber. There is NOTHING redeeming in a CZ 223. Congratulations?!? Hint................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Poor poor Shefire,yet again at the mercy of her "means","abilities" and "comprehension". Hint. Congratulations?!?
Bless her heart,for drooling.
LAUGHING!
Hint.................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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I pulled the trigger on a Kimber Montana in .223 from Whittakers. Picked it up yesterday. I think it would be hard to find a better rifle for that platform and caliber. It should work perfect for what I plan to do with it, which is everything. LGS couldn't comprehend they kill deer dead as well as anything.
Camp is where you make it.
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I pulled the trigger on a Kimber Montana in .223 from Whittakers. Picked it up yesterday. I think it would be hard to find a better rifle for that platform and caliber. It should work perfect for what I plan to do with it, which is everything. LGS couldn't comprehend they kill deer dead as well as anything. you gonna like it.
Uber Demanding Rifle Aficionado
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Camp is where you make it.
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Yep..........great choice. I have one and look forward to it becoming my primary coyote calling rifle. It is a friggen hammer with 40gr Fiocchi Factory loads consistently shooting 1/2MOA, which is wicked Coyote medicine and can't reload virgin brass for the price of it. Looks like it's currently out of stock, but this place is awesome for Fiocchi 50gr and 40gr 1,000 round cases. https://www.sgammo.com/product/223-...x-polymer-tip-bt-fiocchi-extrema-ammo-22 Both Fiocchi 50gr and 40gr Vmax loads shoot 1/2 to 3/4 MOA consistently out of four different 223's I've used it in. Anyway, regardless of what you shoot. The little Kimber Montana .223 is a peach. I should buy another. I haven't loaded for it yet, but expect good things with Ramshot TAC and 75gr HPBT Hornady's. Too many irons in the fire for me to worry about loading it for a while.
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I pulled the trigger on a Kimber Montana in .223 from Whittakers. Picked it up yesterday. I think it would be hard to find a better rifle for that platform and caliber. It should work perfect for what I plan to do with it, which is everything. LGS couldn't comprehend they kill deer dead as well as anything. Did it come with a complimentary pair of dice?
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No. But I put a leupold on it so....
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Ive located a like new Kimber 84M classic select in 223 . I should have it this week.
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Ive located a like new Kimber 84M classic select in 223 . I should have it this week. Excellent. I got one of the NIB rifles that Whitaker's has. I really like the stock. This thing should be a great little rifle.
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Someone please tell me the draw to a 223 in a bolt gun? I own one and its fun, but do not see the high desirabilty. Economical as hell to shoot with both handloads and factory ammo. Can be loaded to effectively and efficiently take everything from rabbits and squirrels to deer. All that and WAAAAY better carryability/ handling and FAR, FAR, FAAAAAR less ugly than a stinkin' AR. What he said!
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No. But I put a leupold on it so.... That’s funny as hell right there. Keep us posted as to how it shoots. P
Obey lawful commands. Video interactions. Hold bad cops accountable. Problem solved.
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CZ 527 if they made a 308 platform the same size and weight it would be a dynamite mountain deer rifle
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