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Winchester's lack of providing reloaders with brass is not helping the cause much.
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If vast majority of hunters aren't reloaders were is all the powder going that hits the internet and LGS's. As far as brass buy 100 pieces of ADG it will last the life of the barrel and forget about the Win junk.
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I'm betting that it will be a survivor but maybe not overly popular. Hope so cause I recently bought a BLR in this round but right now thinking I'll just use factory ammo if I find one with acceptable accuracy. haven't shot it yet.
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If you build one use a med or long action for the heavies and don't look back. Tikka is the best factory action and put a brake on it.
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I've owned several, seems to me to be about best all around cartridge for the 308 caliber. The only advantage I'd give to the 30-06 would be magazine capacity and feeding, long and skinny v short and fat.
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I have one, it doesn't even have a scope on it now. I may send it down the road. Not because its a WSM, but because it's not getting any love it deserves.. As a cartridge, I love the 300WSM. All of them I have shot have been extremely accurate/precise. That's by design. Kind of like the creedmire. They are a good efficient design. At the time, or earlier, people were doing a lot of wildcats based off the .404 Jeffery. Winchester got the smart idea to go shorter, instead of longer like some crazed magnum fans went. It was a success. The 300WSM more so than any of the others. Its brothers are dying, but the 300 still has a good following.. What I don't get is Winchester would rather bring out another cartridge (6.8 Western) that so closely resembles another that is fn dead (270WSM). They are grasping at straws when they need to pull their heads out their azz instead..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Winchester's lack of providing reloaders with brass is not helping the cause much. They are fn idiots. Bringing out other cartridges now is a prime example. They should focus on other things that make more sense and benefit people, rather than hindering them..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I was looking at a used rifle at a local lgs some years back. Was at their cleaning bench giving it a lick and a wipe as well as a patch through the bore. They come out ahead letting me clean them up as I check them out even when I don't buy it. Anyway I'm cleaning one and this western style dressed dude came in saw me working on the gun and asked where the 300wsm ammo was I pointed him in the right direction. So he goes over to the rack and picks up 3 boxes of 180 gr Npt Fed premiums and then found an inexpensive leather sling. Hauled his stuff over to the register and paid for it with 2 c notes. Got back less than 20 in change and left. This was 7-8 years a go before stuff really got jacked in price. I never have been able to forget it, it brought a completely simple understanding of the saying " Has more money than sense" to me. At the time you could have bought 3 boxes of Fed Premiums in 30-06 for less than 75 bucks. Even wallyworld handled 300 WM ammo back then. Just something I never forgot that idea of 300 wsm owners having more money than sense. Flame away God damn it..mb Most should be handloading their ammo. Most here should be handloading and most probably do. Same can be said for weatherby ammo. If you want to hunt with a gun and save your pennies and not have to handload your ammo, buy an old 30-30 and 22lr and sell off all of your rifles. You can find that ammo at wally world too. $24/box. I handload 300WSM for less money... Just sayin. I have a buddy that bought the schidt to handload ammo and he has bought countless boxes of 300WSM ammo at $65+/box. Its his money, but I think its stupid as fu ck. I'll still catch him buying factory ammo. Its stupid, unless its your only option to getting reloadable brass. I had to do that with a rifle I bought a few days ago. 204 Ruger brass is not going to be found locally, but the shop owner I bought my rifle from threw in 2 boxes of ammo for an extra $50. That's 50rounds/box, so it was a pretty good deal for that ammo. Now I can reload it too....
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Sorry but short action doesn't mean schidt. Unless you have T rex arms and can't operate a bolt with an extra 1/2" movement. Some guys are used to short stroking it. Tikka is a prime example that proves long action rifles can perform every bit as good as a short action and be light weight too. Short action proves nothing. Also some guys say the belt takes up more room in the magazine. All the 300WSM rifles I've owned have a 3 round mag capacity. My pre 64 300wby and 338wm hold 4 in the magazine. My 308 Norma will hold 5, but its a beast, built off of a M1917.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Like I mentioned, the .300 WSM is surrounded by misunderstanding. The short action is about saving weight, not short stroking.
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I sold my Remington SPS 300 WSM in a weak moment. It accounted for 18 African plains game animals and 3 New Zealand animals. I used it to take a very nice mountain goat here in Montana. Had no more than approx. 150 round count. It shot sub 1ā groups off the bench. I should be horse whipped for my stupidity. I sold it as a package of rifle, components, dies and load information. MISTAKE! MTG
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If vast majority of hunters aren't reloaders were is all the powder going that hits the internet and LGS's. As far as brass buy 100 pieces of ADG it will last the life of the barrel and forget about the Win junk. Gladly! I missed out on the release from ADG. I'd cash buy any you had extra!
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Like I mentioned, the .300 WSM is surrounded by misunderstanding. The short action is about saving weight, not short stroking. 3 ozs? Like I said, not hardly even worth mentioning. At one time it mattered, when every action was a tank. Now they have trim lightweight standard action rifles. How much does a long action Kimber weigh vs. the short action? I can pizz more than what the difference is..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Sorry I do not. I bought 100 pieces of ADG for my 6.5x300wsm. Get on all the notifications you can next time around.
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Sorry but short action doesn't mean schidt. Unless you have T rex arms and can't operate a bolt with an extra 1/2" movement. Some guys are used to short stroking it. Tikka is a prime example that proves long action rifles can perform every bit as good as a short action and be light weight too. Short action proves nothing. Also some guys say the belt takes up more room in the magazine. All the 300WSM rifles I've owned have a 3 round mag capacity. My pre 64 300wby and 338wm hold 4 in the magazine. My 308 Norma will hold 5, but its a beast, built off of a M1917. That's a helluva rifle Shinbone! Man, I'd tend to agree that'll be the top of the mountain sorta elk rifle that carries alot and fired once.
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Like I mentioned, the .300 WSM is surrounded by misunderstanding. The short action is about saving weight, not short stroking. 3 ozs? Like I said, not hardly even worth mentioning. At one time it mattered, when every action was a tank. Now they have trim lightweight standard action rifles. How much does a long action Kimber weigh vs. the short action? I can pizz more than what the difference is.. 3 ozs? This didnt sound right to me so I looked at Kimbers website and according to the specs the Mountain Ascent chambered in .300 WSM the weight is 5lbs 12ozs for the same rifle chambered in .300 Win the weight is 6lbs 7ozs so we are talking nearly 3/4lb not just 3 ozs.......Hb
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beretzs - Thanks! A tick over 5-1/2 lbs loaded and ready to hunt is pretty sweet. I am super happy with it. Except for the big bears, this rifle is great for anything in North America. Even for antelope, which certainly don't need a big 30 cal to knock down, but where I hunt them it is always windy, and so a fast heavy bullet helps hit where I aim.
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beretzs - Thanks! A tick over 5-1/2 lbs loaded and ready to hunt is pretty sweet. I am super happy with it. Except for the big bears, this rifle is great for anything in North America. Even for antelope, which certainly don't need a big 30 cal to knock down, but where I hunt them it is always windy, and so a fast heavy bullet helps hit where I aim. I don't blame you a danged bit. Your rifle looks about perfectly matched to everything you mentioned. Pretty hard to hate a rifle with so much performance for no penalty on the weight!
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A .300 WSM with a 22-23ā barrel is very handy. I have had a few and really like the cartridge. Iām considering a 20ā to use with a suppressor for a light backpack rifle.
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