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The hero customer who shot and killed an armed robber at a Houston taco joint last week has been ordered to face a grand jury by District Attorney Kim Ogg, the Soros-funded prosecutor who appears to have let the career criminal he put down out on bond.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political...taco-joint-ordered-face-grand-jury-soros

Oct. 13, 2016

Billionaire Soros makes $500K ad buy for Democratic DA candidiate Ogg

Billionaire George Soros again has stepped into the Harris County district attorney's race with a half-million-dollar advertising buy on behalf of Democratic candidate Kim Ogg.

The latest Soros contribution arrives just days after the Ogg campaign filed a quarterly finance report showing she received nearly $135,000 in campaign contributions from a PAC supported by Steve Mostyn, another major Democratic financier.

https://www.chron.com/politics/article/Billionaire-Soros-makes-500-000-ad-buy-for-9970130.php

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While all that is true about Soros and that DA (Like most large large metropolitan DA's), I will repeat...

All homicides go before a Grand Jury in Texas.


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To answer the question, I don't believe there is such a law requiring one to remain at the scene of a shooting when you shoot in self defense. Think about it. It may well be necessary to make your escape to a safer place after shooting a bad guy, so such a law would run counter to that very real possibility, thus it's unlikely that such a law exists.

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In tx, even self defense shoots go in front of grand jury?

They use the broad definition of homicide doesn't matter if a legal killing or not?

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Originally Posted by Mountain10mm
The only video I saw stopped right before he shot the bad guy. In that video it looked like the bad guy's back was mostly towards the good guy. While the good guy might have been justified when the bad guy walked in and started waving his toy around, I have hesitation that the jury will see this as self defense when the bad guy is on his way out the place and with his back towards the shooter.

All in, one less perp. on the streets. That's good and I hope the jury sees it that way.


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Originally Posted by Joel/AK
In tx, even self defense shoots go in front of grand jury?

They use the broad definition of homicide doesn't matter if a legal killing or not?

I think homocide just means one person killing another. Legality is another matter entirely.

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Originally Posted by mathman
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Sound like a clean shoot.

Some weenie will piss and moan about the coup de grace shot.

Quite reasonably indeed.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
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Sound like a clean shoot.

Some weenie will piss and moan about the coup de grace shot.

Quite reasonably indeed.
When your adrenaline is up you just cant shut off the kill mode like a light switch, At least some cant... Basic survival instinct... Besides, Who's to know if he didn't have another gun?...

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Check out the guy in the corner by the jukebox... First he hides his phone, Then when the perp is down he looks like he's just going to start finishing his tacos...

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Almost like something you would see in the movie Pulp Fiction complete with Ezekiel 25:17



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Originally Posted by SupFoo
The hero customer who shot and killed an armed robber at a Houston taco joint last week has been ordered to face a grand jury by District Attorney Kim Ogg, the Soros-funded prosecutor who appears to have let the career criminal he put down out on bond.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political...taco-joint-ordered-face-grand-jury-soros

Oct. 13, 2016

Billionaire Soros makes $500K ad buy for Democratic DA candidiate Ogg

Billionaire George Soros again has stepped into the Harris County district attorney's race with a half-million-dollar advertising buy on behalf of Democratic candidate Kim Ogg.

The latest Soros contribution arrives just days after the Ogg campaign filed a quarterly finance report showing she received nearly $135,000 in campaign contributions from a PAC supported by Steve Mostyn, another major Democratic financier.

https://www.chron.com/politics/article/Billionaire-Soros-makes-500-000-ad-buy-for-9970130.php




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Originally Posted by WMR
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In tx, even self defense shoots go in front of grand jury?

They use the broad definition of homicide doesn't matter if a legal killing or not?

I think homocide just means one person killing another. Legality is another matter entirely.

By definition homicide.is.the unlawful killing of one person by another thus, illegality is backed right in. The last shot will be the one that gets the guy in trouble, if at all. Typically, deployment and application of lethal force in defense of self or others ends as a legal shield when the threat ends. The State will argue to the grand jury that when the final shot was delivered the threat had already ended. He did light him up pretty good. The other side of it then would be a later defense where evidence may be introduced in the form of ME testimony demonstrating perp was either already dead or fatally wounded by time of last shot and would have died anyway. I hope he walks. As they say, FAFO.


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Remember Jack Wilson, the guy who shot the nut in in the head at the West Freeway Church of Christ in White Settlement TX, had to appear before a grand jury. He received the Texas Governor's "Medal of Courage" prior to having to appear.

If ever there was a case that was justifiable, it was that one, yet, he still had to go before the grand jury.


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Originally Posted by bluefish
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In tx, even self defense shoots go in front of grand jury?

They use the broad definition of homicide doesn't matter if a legal killing or not?

I think homocide just means one person killing another. Legality is another matter entirely.

By definition homicide.is.the unlawful killing of one person by another thus, illegality is backed right in. The last shot will be the one that gets the guy in trouble, if at all. Typically, deployment and application of lethal force in defense of self or others ends as a legal shield when the threat ends. The State will argue to the grand jury that when the final shot was delivered the threat had already ended. He did light him up pretty good. The other side of it then would be a later defense where evidence may be introduced in the form of ME testimony demonstrating perp was either already dead or fatally wounded by time of last shot and would have died anyway. I hope he walks. As they say, FAFO.

No. "Homicide" means the death of an individual by another with culpability, including justifiable. This excludes accidental death.

And yes, the all go to Grand Jury in Texas. It is not a "trial". The Jury determines whether indictment should be issued, or not. Not some elected official.


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Originally Posted by Mountain10mm
The only video I saw stopped right before he shot the bad guy. In that video it looked like the bad guy's back was mostly towards the good guy. While the good guy might have been justified when the bad guy walked in and started waving his toy around, I have hesitation that the jury will see this as self defense when the bad guy is on his way out the place and with his back towards the shooter.

All in, one less perp. on the streets. That's good and I hope the jury sees it that way.


The armed robbery was still very much in progress when he was shot.

How do you know he wouldn't go to the door, turn and shoot everyone?

If an armed person is threatening your life, then turns his back while doing so, and you don't shoot, you are an idiot.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by bluefish
Originally Posted by WMR
Originally Posted by Joel/AK
In tx, even self defense shoots go in front of grand jury?

They use the broad definition of homicide doesn't matter if a legal killing or not?

I think homocide just means one person killing another. Legality is another matter entirely.

By definition homicide.is.the unlawful killing of one person by another thus, illegality is backed right in. The last shot will be the one that gets the guy in trouble, if at all. Typically, deployment and application of lethal force in defense of self or others ends as a legal shield when the threat ends. The State will argue to the grand jury that when the final shot was delivered the threat had already ended. He did light him up pretty good. The other side of it then would be a later defense where evidence may be introduced in the form of ME testimony demonstrating perp was either already dead or fatally wounded by time of last shot and would have died anyway. I hope he walks. As they say, FAFO.

No. "Homicide" means the death of an individual by another with culpability, including justifiable. This excludes accidental death.

And yes, the all go to Grand Jury in Texas.

I'd hate to have that bitch, Kim Ogg driving the grand jury... eek


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by Mountain10mm
The only video I saw stopped right before he shot the bad guy. In that video it looked like the bad guy's back was mostly towards the good guy. While the good guy might have been justified when the bad guy walked in and started waving his toy around, I have hesitation that the jury will see this as self defense when the bad guy is on his way out the place and with his back towards the shooter.

All in, one less perp. on the streets. That's good and I hope the jury sees it that way.


The armed robbery was still very much in progress when he was shot.

How do you know he wouldn't go to the door, turn and shoot everyone?

If an armed person is threatening your life, then turns his back while doing so, and you don't shoot, you are an idiot.

In tactical/military terms retreat is seen as just a way to get to cover to reengage and attack. There's no quarter in lethal engagements unless you positively know the threat is over


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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
If on the jury, I would only want to know: Did the diner shoot until the threat was neutralized?

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Originally Posted by 7mm_Loco
When your adrenaline is up you just cant shut off the kill mode like a light switch, At least some cant... Basic survival instinct... Besides, Who's to know if he didn't have another gun?...
Valid point about survival instincts, but not a valid point about "who knows if .." That's not justification for lethal force in the law of any state. Best go with the former than the latter.

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