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I haven't had a chance to put a .17 bullet into a coyote yet, but barnyard invaders from striped gopher thru raccoon tell me that there is a big difference between the 17gr fmj that most of them walk away from and the 20gr HP that's stopped everything in its tracks.
I haven't tried any of the gummy-tips, and don't see a need to with the HP performance. The TNT is a very effective coon and cat killer. Even shot coons inside of buildings with them. No exits.
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
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What’s the price compared to 22mag?
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Its all right to be white!! Stupidity left unattended will run rampant Don't argue with stupid people, They will drag you down to their level and then win by experience
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I haven't had a chance to put a .17 bullet into a coyote yet, but barnyard invaders from striped gopher thru raccoon tell me that there is a big difference between the 17gr fmj that most of them walk away from and the 20gr HP that's stopped everything in its tracks.
I haven't tried any of the gummy-tips, and don't see a need to with the HP performance. The TNT is a very effective coon and cat killer. Even shot coons inside of buildings with them. No exits. TNT is the most accurate round in my .17 Annie. DF
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I haven't had a chance to put a .17 bullet into a coyote yet, but barnyard invaders from striped gopher thru raccoon tell me that there is a big difference between the 17gr fmj that most of them walk away from and the 20gr HP that's stopped everything in its tracks.
I haven't tried any of the gummy-tips, and don't see a need to with the HP performance. The TNT is a very effective coon and cat killer. Even shot coons inside of buildings with them. No exits. Fair point -- it's no fun to pass on indoor shots.
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I haven't had a chance to put a .17 bullet into a coyote yet, but barnyard invaders from striped gopher thru raccoon tell me that there is a big difference between the 17gr fmj that most of them walk away from and the 20gr HP that's stopped everything in its tracks.
I haven't tried any of the gummy-tips, and don't see a need to with the HP performance. The TNT is a very effective coon and cat killer. Even shot coons inside of buildings with them. No exits. Fair point -- it's no fun to pass on indoor shots. I wouldn't do it without using the TNT and having seen how they work on thin puss cats. No exits there either.
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
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So the 20gr. hp is more frangible than the 17gr. plastic tips?
PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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The 17 grain TNT is definitely more fragile.
The 20 grain XTP or 20 grain Game Point is a bit tougher than the poly tip.
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PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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My CZ 452 17HMR is very accurate and reliable out to 150 yds or so, if the wind is calm.....but I wouldn't trust it on much bigger than a groundhog myself.
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I guess if every single critter you shoot at runs away and you never go look for them you can sleep better at night knowing your marksmanship skills are beyond measure because you never ever miss. I can see why the .17hmr would thusly be appealing to farmer Fuddly.
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The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
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I guess if every single critter you shoot at runs away and you never go look for them you can sleep better at night knowing your marksmanship skills are beyond measure because you never ever miss. I can see why the .17hmr would thusly be appealing to farmer Fuddly. Never had to do much searching myself.
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
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25-06 is my favorite coyote gun. If you hit em, they never run. I’ve shot them with a 22 LR before, but only because that’s what I had at hand. Every one of those ran off. I don’t care for rimfires for Coyotes.
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25-06 is my favorite coyote gun. If you hit em, they never run. I’ve shot them with a 22 LR before, but only because that’s what I had at hand. Every one of those ran off. I don’t care for rimfires for Coyotes. A 25-06 for yotes is like an A10 Warthog for one raghead walking his goat.
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I shoot nutes with my Tikka .17 HMR, sometimes out to 200 yards. They die fast. And a big nute is a big critter. P
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Don’t have but one .17 and it uses BB caps. German parlor rifle. Quite accurate it is, but would be awkward for hunting.
My preference for hogs is a TC Contender Carbine chambered for .22 Shorts. I use CB shorts ‘cause they’re quiet. 150 dead hogs +\-, had to shoot one of them twice. They all dropped dead on the spot. Placement matters. -Hint-
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I could care less what anyone shoots coyotes with. Will the 17HMR kill coyotes, without a doubt. Since the OP asked if the 17HMR was good for coyotes. I’d say it ain’t worth a [bleep] compared to all the rifle cartridges there are out there. I’d shoot at em with Whatever I have in hand and have. It’s definitely a step up from a 22LR, but it still leaves a lot of room for improvement.
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I could care less what anyone shoots coyotes with. Will the 17HMR kill coyotes, without a doubt. Since the OP asked if the 17HMR was good for coyotes. I’d say it ain’t worth a [bleep] compared to all the rifle cartridges there are out there. I’d shoot at em with Whatever I have in hand and have. It’s definitely a step up from a 22LR, but it still leaves a lot of room for improvement. Doesn't need any improvement if it used for what it was designed to do. Like every cartridge large or small it too has it's limitations.
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My experience is that a skinny coyote can walk through a OO buck pattern, but not a #4 shot pattern. My experience is from around the chicken coop, but my brother in MT has been shooting coyotes with a shotgun from an airplane.
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