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Gun shows were ruined by coins, roasted almonds, tactical axe handles, lamps, and that one guy with nothing but old assed books on how to overthrow the govt.

You guys had better read up. I didnt post to argue about it just make sure everyone knew thing are really going to change. We are already hearing about web sites that may disappear

We are already hearing about web sites that may disappear

Which ones?

Typical redneck floundering on hot button issues.

How is the Congress in involved in reviewing final rules?

Under
the
Small
Business
Regulatory
Enforcement
Fairness
Act
(also
known
as
the

Congressional
Review
Act),
new
final
rules
must
be
sent
to
Congress
and
the
Government

Accountability
Office
for
review
before
they
can
take
effect.
“Major
rules”
(ones
that
are

economically
significant
and
require
OIRA
review)
must
be
made
effective
at
least
60
days after

the
date
of
publication
in
the
Federal
Register,
allowing
time
for
Congressional
review.

In

emergency
situations,
a
major
rule
can
be
made
effective
before
60
days.

If
the
House
and
Senate
pass
a
resolution
of
disapproval
and
the
President
signs
it
(or
if
both

houses
override
a
presidential
veto),
the
rule
becomes
void
and
cannot
be
republished
by
an

agency
in
the
same
form
without
Congressional
approval.

Since
1996,
when
this
process

started,
Congress
has
disapproved
only
one
rule.
Congress
may
also
exercise
its
oversight
in
other
ways,
by
holding
hearings
and
posing

questions
to
agency
heads,
by
enacting
new
legislation,
or
by
imposing
funding
restrictions

Final Rule: Definition of “Engaged in the Business” as a Dealer in Firearms

On April 10, 2024, the Attorney General signed ATF’s final rule, Definition of “Engaged in the Business” as a Dealer in Firearms, amending ATF’s regulations in title 27, Code of Federal Regulations (“CFR”), part 478. The final rule implements the provisions of the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act (“BSCA,” effective June 25, 2022), which broadened the definition of when a person is considered “engaged in the business” as a dealer in firearms (other than a gunsmith or pawnbroker). The Final Rule clarifies that definition. It will be published in the Federal Register and will be effective 30-days from publication.

This final rule incorporates BSCA’s definitions of “predominantly earn a profit” and “terrorism,” and amends the regulatory definitions of “engaged in the business as a dealer other than a gunsmith or pawnbroker” and “principal objective of livelihood and profit” to ensure each conforms with the BSCA’s statutory changes and can be relied upon by the public.

The final rule clarifies when a person is “engaged in the business” as a dealer in firearms at wholesale or retail by:

clarifying the definition of “dealer,” and defining the terms “purchase,” “sale,” and “something of value” as they apply to dealers;
adding definitions for the term “personal collection (or personal collection of firearms, or personal firearms collection),” and for “responsible person”;
setting forth conduct that is presumed to constitute “engaging in the business” of dealing in firearms, and presumed to demonstrate the intent to “predominantly earn a profit” from the sale or disposition of firearms, absent reliable evidence to the contrary, in civil and administrative proceedings;
clarifying that the intent to “predominantly earn a profit” does not require the person to have received pecuniary gain, and that intent does not have to be shown when a person purchases or sells a firearm for criminal or terrorism purposes;
clarifying the circumstances when a person would not be presumed to engaged in the business of dealing in firearms, including as an auctioneer, or when purchasing firearms for, and selling firearms from, a personal collection;
addressing the procedures former licensees, and responsible persons acting on behalf of such licensees, must follow when they liquidate business inventory upon revocation or other termination of their license; and
clarifying that licensees must follow the verification and recordkeeping procedures in 27 CFR 478.94 and Subpart H, rather than using an ATF Form 4473 when firearms are transferred to other licensees, including transfers by a licensed sole proprietor to that person’s personal collection.
Read Final Rule

Just talking to the lawyers and promoters of gunshow, they should know

Its a complicated bs rule

Piss off... SWSShooter is a solid guy.

Pretty sure most havent read it and by the answers so far dont have clue whats in it like congress when the voted for it. You will not be able to do a ffl or atf transfer at a gunshow from one person to another. You must sell any gun want to get rid of to a ffl and he can choose who he wants to sell it to at his price. Buying guns will only be legal from a ffl.

I am posting this because most do not know