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I saw too many "from my cold dead hands" break to the jab to believe there'll be any kind of unified stand to a confiscation.

We're fûcked

Blowhards online are just that. But it's a peek into their psyche when they defend masking, jabs, and killing unborn children.

I will submit to the membership, there are legit gun advocates who care not a whit about unborn children, one should be careful in how they view the populace and how it breaks down into voting blocks. Just because a guy supports A doesn't mean he supports B.

Just be honest about it. Don't say you are pro-life, then walk it back and say candidates shouldn't talk about it, or that it's negotiable. You either believe in killing the unborn or you don't. You either believe in limiting gun ownership or you don't.

The thing is, 'believing' in something, doesn't pass legislation. The 2A being enshrined in the Bill of Rights is a lot different than the abortion issue.

The abortion issue will only change by passing laws. Passing laws requires control of the legislative and executive branches, and having conservative judges in the courts also requires control of the executive and the senate confirmation.

If you believe in the rule of law, then we all know what is required.

There have been other methods tried like bombing clinics and killing doctors. That's hasn't and will not change anything. There is no popular support for that stuff.

Being mad, self-righteous, and calling people names isn't going to change a damn thing.

I don't believe in abortion, but I'm also not trying to be a crusader for the cause. There is a lot of $hit in this world I cannot control, and that is one of them.

Some things are negotiable, some aren't. Abortion has touched my life, and I feel strongly about it. I'm sorry if I come off as self righteous, I am not. I made a thread about the jab way back and how my employer was mandating it and my struggle to decide what was best for me and mine and what was the "right" thing to do. In this thread I intentionally wove together several issues into one to make my point. If you believe in something then it matters. If you kinda feel strongly about something, then it matters a little less I guess.

Just look at the posts in re the few folks in congress that fight the good fight, at least what the majority here say they believe in. They are parodied, and mocked ad nauseam.

That the abortion topic would be squishy on here is a given. But I have read so many times how people stake out a position, but then walk it back to get the less bad version of the current politician in place. We've done that for so many years now I don't know that we can come back.

Lard.

...But you cannot mention this glaring discrepancy in Germany and other European countries... .

Common sense would say yes, but reality proves otherwise.

So far, I haven’t found the stupidity of Lincoln as many here accuse him of.

Boy, she lit herself on fire, didn't she?

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