you know is a shot more ethical if its from a good rest, accurate rifle and good equipment, tested equipment, fired at 600+ yards or an off hand shot at 275 yards?? The more long range shooting I do I would rather take a good rest and the longer shot anyday.

thats really cool seeing what a 105 vld will do. that class of bullet really takes the 243 into a class of its own.

john, what kind of speeds are you pushing those to. my load from a 24" 243 ai is 3130 fps from h4831 sc. could go a bit faster but the pockets in the lapua brass loosen faster than I like beyond those speeds.